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It looks like it could, and the OS 3.0 software supports external devices. My guess is that even if Apple doesn't officially support it, you could enable support in an App
Picture is here
http://images.apple.com/ipad/specs/images/usb_connectors_20100127.jpg
So you get both a USB port and a SD port. If I could use that USB connector to use my iPhone or even better, iPad as a tethered shooting rig... well now we are talking about some cool stuff.
I'm still not sure either I'll get one or not. If they put an app that will make the ipad work with aperture, than I'll probably go for it. If not... I'll think twice before buying it, at's it's just a iphone with bigger screen - with skype app You will be able to even use it as a phone. As for now I see it's potential as a XXI century portfolio, as some of You suggested. But to be honest, I was opting for a true tablet, with full Mac OS X on it and some nice interface - sth. like front row. Also it doesn't make any sense for me not to include SD card adapter. How much more it would cost them to do that? As for the 8 things, I disagree. Don't need a back camera - it's not a camera. Although would appreciate one in front. no flash... who cares about flash, new sites are flash free. as for size, it's ok for me, pricing is also acceptable - if I get one it's probably gonna be the cheapest model - 16GB is enough for me.
One more thing that I don't like, is the necessity to buy another keyboard. If there's bluetooth inside why they are not allowing to use it with keyboards.
I think the fact that apple stock has gone down instead of way up with the ipad announcement says a lot :^(
Adam, the ipad can't multitask so I doubt it'll be able to handle aperture. The only thing I liked about it was the potential to use it as a multimedia portfolio to present your work on. THAT'S ABOUT IT :^(
May I be frank? This is pathetic! You people are all total downers. The iPad is awesome! Why do you all have to sulk around complaining about it? The way I see it, there are more positives then negatives. Sure, you can sit there and complain and whine about this and that, but why persist with the moans if you don't like it? Clearly each and every one of you who is either disappointed in Apple or the iPad wanted some kind of tablet. You can't deny it.
And Nau—really? "8 Things that Suck about the iPad?" Seriously? You obviously put a great deal of thought into your argument. If you hated it that much, why would you even bother yourself to learn its stats?
I agree with Niz. For education and portfolio purposes, or if you're shooting on assignment and you want to show your clients your photos right there, then it's awesome.
And the argument about no flash: us iPhone and iPod touch users barely need flash; most of the websites that employ flash are either abandoning it to facilitate for the iPhone, or they're making an App so you don't even need to use Safari. This way, you completely bypass flash.
You can gripe and groan about the iPad, but you might try opening your eyes for once and recognizing its potential. It may not be for everyone, but it certainly has more uses than many of the people on this forum are creative or clever enough to comprehend.
Nau didn't write the "8 things to hate about the ipad" gizmodo.com did.
OK TJ defend the name "ipad" because that has done more to kill momentum for this thing than any of it's features.
When it comes to gadgets, I'm always keen on anything new and cool, but the Ipad is a disaster...yep, there's that word again.
No multitasking? Did Apple forget that this is 2010 and not 1995? This really is a dealbreaker. Virtually everyone I know thought that this MUST have been a mistake made by the press, but it's true.
They're trying to push the poor thing as competition for the Kindle. But I own a Kindle with the big screen and it's easier to read than the color IPad. Not only that but the Kindle has 15 times the battery life of the Ipad at least. You can use the Kindle all week before charging it!
Now, if I wanted to show off my work, why would I use a sub 10" screen when a few bucks more buys a full fledged notebook with a bigger screen? And it can run my software, play music, burn discs and still be a fairly small package with FAR more storage.
Like I said, I love gadgets, but there's just nothing very slick about a bigger ITouch. They utterly missed the boat with it and the reaction from a LOT of people is proof of that. Let's hope the second generation can multitask and dare I hope that such a device can take a CF card? HDMI out for actual presentation options? C'mon....basic stuff. At this stage the Ipad is a interesting dud. Even my Apple loving friends don't want one.
Cheers
Forgive me for seeming base. I'm sorry, that I accused Nau of having written that, but even if he didn't, he clearly agrees with what Gizmodo said. Okay, I don't see what's so bad about "iPad." But multitasking? What IS all this crap about multitasking? I have never, once, needed "multitasking" on my iPod touch. To these people who are complaining about a lack of "multitasking," what does "multitasking" actually mean? Plus, the Kindle isn't a computer, it's just a stupid book reader; it's not like there's multitasking on a Kindle. All it does is read books. This is also the reason the battery life lasts longer! It's not a tablet computer!
In addition, to MaxGreen's comment about CF cards: isn't it obvious that CF cards are going out of fashion? SD cards are preferable to CF cards in a great number of ways. And, for your information, it's an iPod touch, not "iTouch."
Perhaps I'm a little overzealous about this, but it's frustrating that nobody's even giving it a chance. I know that tons of my peers at school really like it. And maybe it's just because I'm an Apple freak—I dunno—but it seems like this might be a generational thing, like the iPod.
I'll be honest.. after thinking it over... I want one. For $500, its just north of an impulse buy.
Now... where to begin:
- No Multitasking - Kind of a bummer, but to be honest I never miss it on my iPhone. The 3GS switches between most apps lightning quick, and this thing has nearly twice the processor speed (BTW anybody seen specs on the RAM yet?). I'm a habitual multi-tasker. I've got 15 spreadsheets open on my desktop right now, as well as Outlook, Acrobat, and paint (that's right MS Paint). When I'm on the go though, I don't really need to do a lot of stuff at once. I need to do one thing quickly.
- The Name - No getting around that one Niko... its terrible. Although to be fair at least three other companies thought it was good enough to name their products after it... so maybe its just me. I'd have preferred that they went with the iSlate.
- The Screen - Can't wait to try and use it in a teathered shooting set up. I see eye-fi has a iPhone app, so if they can get the iPad to support the eye-fi pro card with an ad Hoc network then you are talking game changer here. I love using OSxTouch to work with my photos... feels much more natural than a mouse. It's like combining everything thats great about a mouse with everything that's great about keyboard shortcuts.
- Flash - I could go on about this for days. Flash is a terrible. I don't miss it on my phone (except when ordering take out from Madam Mam's, but thats a different story). Flash needs to die. For Games, I prefer native apps (by the way check out the port of "Shopping Cart Hero" if you want to see what I mean). Is it lame that it doesn't run it? Sure, its certainly powerful enough and I like options. Will I really miss it in practice? Nope.
- No Camera - Why do people complain about this? Why would I want to shoot a 3mp image with a device that's larger than my iPad. Wouldn't have minded a front facing iSight camera though. Although, I've got two macs with them, and I've done only one video conference ever. I'm not sure that a laptop wouldn't be much better suited for that purpose anyway. Strictly from an ergonomics perspective.
- HDMI out - A curious omission to be sure. I think that Apple would probably prefer you use an Apple TV or a Macbook for that sort of thing
- Keyboard dock - Everybody is ripping that thing and honestly, it was my favorite part of the whole launch. I even want that for my PHOHNE. (BTW, I read that it does in fact work with the bluetooth keyboard as well. This version just props it up and allows it to charge \ sync while you work.
For me, this is the perfect e-mail reading machine, the perfect portfolio display machine, potentially the best platform of all time for a RTS game, and probably the best internet browsing device (provided the web meets el Jobso's standards). I'm excited about it and will almost certainly get one.
My biggest disappointment? No video in option. I still think this thing would kill as an auxilary input device for a desktop. Maybe next year.
Sorry ... 8-)
- No Multitasking - Kind of a bummer, but to be honest I never miss it on my iPhone. The 3GS switches between most apps lightning quick, and this thing has nearly twice the processor speed (BTW anybody seen specs on the RAM yet?).>>>
This is NOT an Iphone. You won't be able to play music from a website while you work or even just read. How about opening a simple e-mail? You'll need to close that book or anything else you are doing just to check it. I typically run 3 programs at the same time as do plenty of people.
- Flash - I could go on about this for days. Flash is a terrible.>>
Again, this is NOT an IPhone. And flash is a basic feature that will be missed.
<<<- No Camera - Why do people complain about this?>>>
Well, for starters because it might have opened a nice door for video-web-phone usage. Since cameras are on cheap notebooks for just that usage and the IPad can BE A PHONE, leaving the camera out was a huge blunder. Even Howard Stern was talking about using the Ipad as a portable video-phone (along with a LOT of other people) and then....no phone! Even if you don't use that, plenty of others do. This is the 2nd shot in the foot with the IPad.
<<<- HDMI out - A curious omission to be sure. I think that Apple would probably prefer you use an Apple TV or a Macbook for that sort of thing>>>
And many of us certainly won't be using an IPad as a presentation device because of this omission.
<<<For me, this is the perfect e-mail reading machine, the perfect portfolio display machine, potentially the best platform of all time for a RTS game, and probably the best internet browsing device (provided the web meets el Jobso's standards). I'm excited about it and will almost certainly get one.>>>
The perfect e-mail machine would allow you to read it without closing whatever else you're doing. Browser? C'mon, any little notebook is better. The problem with the Ipad is just about the same with the Netbooks; it;s just not "enough" to make me want to leave a slim, light and full powered notebook at home. And it's incredibly lacking in power and features, which is frankly quite amazing for Apple. Newsgroups everywhere are buzzing over the "letdown" so I hardly think that Apple will be slow in getting the Ipad done right. Do yourself a favor and wait for Gen 2 at least.
CHeers
My biggest disappointment? No video in option. I still think this thing would kill as an auxilary input device for a desktop. Maybe next year.
Willis- I feel the exact same, I want a Iphone for the texting and phone, This for presentation and email and possibly Notetaking. And the 27inch Imac for photo editing. It would all work perfectly together. I am already skipping on saving up for a new lens (24 or 85 1.4) for this.
Oh...and why would I give up my HP or Dell notebooks to use the Ipad to show off my folio? The Notebooks have bigger and better screens, allow for easier customization of a presentation of photos and are actual computers that can do work.
True, any Notebook weighs 3-5 lbs more, but a sub 10" screen is just not great. My Dell's 17" screen looks amazing by comparison to the tiny Ipad.
If someone is handicapped physically I can see caring about the weight difference, otherwise...use a proper tool for the job.
Cheers
Yes, true. Notebooks would be better. But will you always carry a notebook around all the time? In your car? In your backpack along with your camera equipment? I think this would be small enough to fit into your camera bag and would happen to sit there for a mini laptop uses as email and on the spot presentation. not even professional presentation of pictures.
NikoDoby said:
I think the fact that apple stock has gone down instead of way up with the ipad announcement says a lot :^(
ehhh, it's actually historical. rumors artificially inflate apples stock and when people finally figure out apple isn't going to announce the second coming of christ, they sell. note to potential buyers: buy at the beginning of the rumors, sell a few days before the announcement.
also, anyone who quotes gizmodo's list really doesn't know what they're talking about. if you want me to defend that statement, i can. but ive done it so many times now that my fingers are tired.
kellenfreeman said:
also, anyone who quotes gizmodo's list really doesn't know what they're talking about. if you want me to defend that statement, i can. but ive done it so many times now that my fingers are tired.
It's a good thing you're not typing with an ipad keyboard then! Or your fingers and wrist would really be hurt'n. Ohhhhhh :^)
so without reading into too many posts past, for ME, the ipad serves as an interesting "in the field" gateway. . .but it'll need AT LEAST a docking station +/- a keyboard.
Tethering is awesome for something as light as this, wish they would've gone with the OLED display to make it even lighter/brigher, but as is, I think a dedicated tether setup and some slick software (probably in a years time) will make it awesome;
Memory isn't an issue, enough USB ports and/or a "battery pack+HDD" option for $299 (like they did with the Xbox awhile ago?) would greatly enhance the storage and battery life for those that don't mind it being a little thicker. . .
they were smart for pricing it at $499. . .
The price will go up once you start adding all of those silly extras to make your ipad look and behave more like a traditional netbook or laptop. They could have at least put in one USB port!
max - I doubt You will find a better screen in most of the laptops, we are talking here about IPS screen
I wonder if Apple was smart enough to thread the bottom of the iPad dock with a tri-pod mount... probably not :(
No chance of that, I'm sure Apple didn't make the thing with photographers in mind.
your probably right... shouldn't be that tough of a DIY job. Just neet a bolt, Something flat to embed the bolt into, and lots of crazy glue :)
adamz said:
max - I doubt You will find a better screen in most of the laptops, we are talking here about IPS screen
It's a nice screen, but it is not better than the one on my Dell notebook, which is also a 17" that can be used to show photos properly. Sub 10" is just not big enough, especially if your work has elements with more than one photo on a page.
I Ipad is almost hilariously under-equipped. It's almost as though it's a mock up of the IPad to come rather than a fully worked out device. Some people are calling it "stunted" and that's a good word for it.
About the only thing it seems nice for is reading books. But the problem there is that a larger Kindle screen is still easier on the eyes. But the biggest blow to the IPad is the sad battery life of 10 hours. Compare that to the Kindle which lasts my wife a WEEK on a charge.
The IPad is the winner of the early adopter remorse prize. Anyone who jumps on the first version will be very upset when they see the corrected model out in a year or less.
Cheers
Disagree max:
1. Your Dell monitor is the wrong aspect ratio for viewing pictures (much better for movies though), so the real difference in resolution isn't as much as you would think. More importantly though, its a fricken computer. if your anything like me, you have a pavlovian work response every time you see one of those. Not something you want your clients having when you show them your work. I'll venture that your work would look better on an iPad IPS panel than the base 17 inch dell model for the same price. It also ways more than six pounds as compared to the iPad's 1.5 pounds. Once you get that behemoth out of your bag you'll have to wait for it to boot\load. The only thing more valuable than your time is your clients time.
2. Larger Kindle costs the same amount and has only a fraction of the functionality. Would I rather read a book on it? Not sure. Probably I think. Color on the iPad makes it far better as a textbook \ educational tool which is what I think they are really targeting.
3. Battery Life - Trounces your 17 inch dell lap-top. If I'm using any device, Kindle iPad, Dell Laptop for more than 10 hours in a day, then chances are I'm having a pretty bad day. If I needed to go camping or backpacking, the Kindle is clearly the better choice to take along. Somehow though, I suspect that I could find a plug at some point
I'm not trying to sell you on this thing, but be realistic. It fills a pretty nice niche.
MaxGreen said:
The IPad is the winner of the early adopter remorse prize. Anyone who jumps on the first version will be very upset when they see the corrected model out in a year or less.
In about 6 months there will be a slightly larger version with more power and a built in camera. Apple will call it the MaxiPad.
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