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ted2001

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Does anyone here use their LCD screens rather than their viewfinder to shoot?

When I "learned" to shoot with a 35mm camera years ago I was told to put my left hand under the lens (focus and aperture) with my right hand holding the camera, index finger squeezing the shutter with my elbows tucked against my body in order to reduce vibration. Now I see people holding DSLR's at arms-length taking photos. I know VR helps, but it just seems like very bad, image compromising form. (I'm not thinking of working PJs taking crowd shots.)

Perhaps I'm just old and grumpy.

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jonnyapple

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These are the same people who will ask you, "Why can't I get any of my inside shots to turn out like you can?"
Shot discipline is a more important factor than megapixels.

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pabnj

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You are not old and grumpy, you just know better. I shoot the same as you except for those times when I am either in a crowd, or I want a higher perspective that what my 6'2" frame allows if there is nothing to stand on.

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This is the downside of LiveView on theses New DSLR, these are features to assist you with macro shooting, low or high angles, but some just use them to degrade the quality of the pictures that they end up with.

My Son is only 9 yrs old, and he is learning to use his DSLR the proper way, actually his D80 does not have LiveView anyway.

Maybe these LiveView Photographers should get some lessons in how to use their new DSLR

Pete

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I never used the LCD screen for shooting. Use it for the menue and histogram. Sometimes I notice someone using the LCD screen for shooting and it's quite funny. They are trying to look at the screen with their elbows stuck ouy like they are trying to fly or something. TEE! HEE!

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bmxdad

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They Should Join NR and we could set them straight

Pete

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Gentoo

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I see that too and just wish I had the kind of money they have to just blow on a good camera without ever having to learn how to use it, must be nice.

I never shot film but still learned to shoot the proper way. It just makes sense. I used live view once when I was in Seattle because of the crowds where I was. I hated it and looked retarded so I waited for a better opportunity to shoot properly. Only other time I use live view are for those rare times I shoot a video.

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Yeah, I learned to shoot properly too. Not that I had much of a choice, as if my F2 Photomic or my D70 had liveview.

The only purpose I've found for liveview on my D300 is manual focusing. Easy and accurate. I tried using it for overhead once, but like you guys said, much too much camera shake. And I don't have VR or anything, so it just doesn't work for me.

A friend of mine got a D5000 for Hanukkah, and he told me he loves using liveview all the time with the articulating screen. I didn't say anything, but...

Yeah, I hate people who use DSLR's like P&Ss. >:^(

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ChrisLange

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it bothers me when people use two fingers to focus the lens from the side or top, instead of cradling the bottom.

And alpha, don't hate on the live view with the articulated screen, it's essentially a digital bs version of a waist-level finder like those found on most twin lens reflexes and medium format SLRs.

I know I'd use it all the time.

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ChrisLange said:
And alpha, don't hate on the live view with the articulated screen, it's essentially a digital bs version of a waist-level finder like those found on most twin lens reflexes and medium format SLRs.

I don't have a problem with that (as in a digital waist-level finder). I have a problem with people using liveview ALL the time like a P&S.

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You know what bothers me?...... Seeing people doing travel photography with their "consumer" DSLRs with a battery grip. Why add all that weight and size to a camera while your traveling? Is anyone really going to shoot more than the ~2000 shots you can get from the regular battery?

Battery grips are only good for event where you either need to shoot thousands and thousand of pictures and your arms are going to hurt because you have to keep tilting the camera all the way around to get a vertical shot.

If I shot weddings more frequently I would probably get on for my D700/D300 setup but I sure as hell would be leaving it at home when I travel.

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PB PM

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The grips for lower end cameras are often used by people with big hands, when all their budget allows is a D40/D60/D3000 type of camera, don't be a hater.

My pet peeve is people asking you about gear when you are out shooting. Seriously, I'm shooting, either have a normal conversation about, either the subject or something else, but not gear... please!

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AaronFoto

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PB PM said:
The grips for lower end cameras are often used by people with big hands, when all their budget allows is a D40/D60/D3000 type of camera, don't be a hater.

Yeah, but when they're pushing a stroller around at Disneyland or at the Tillamook Cheese factory? Honestly...

I wish I had a D3000 just for this type of stuff. My big hands can deal with it.

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One of my pet peeves is when I guess I accidently take a good photograph, and when someone comments on the print, my wife says "Of course it's a good picture. Bill spent a lot of money on that camera." Thank you, wife.

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PB PM

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That is a big one, people assuming you need an expensive camera to take good pictures!

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warprints

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Yeah, it has nothing to do with 35+ years of experience, photography classes taken and taught, etc.

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alphanikonrex said:
I don't have a problem with that (as in a digital waist-level finder). I have a problem with people using liveview ALL the time like a P&S.

Not when the viewfinder is about the size of a peanut. My ancient point and shoot has a minuscule viewfinder, do you really expect me to use it unless I absolutely needed it?

It's about the size of a squared off peanut, if you really want to know.

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kanuck

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Good post, I find I use liveview for the occasional landscape shot and thats about it. I'd never use it in handheld mode. I agree that a person definately should learn to compose through their viewfinder just like in the days of film. Otherwise you might as well go out and buy a simple point and shoot digital camera! ^^

This being said I have gotten some excellent shots through liveview set to tripod mode. Its a real battery killer though...

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pher

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Threads like these bother me. I think you are ALL old and grumpy - even you Alpha.

You sht on live view. You sht on video. Soon you'll sht on 3D Holograms, because it's cool to be "old school".

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I have a D90 and thus live view, and whenever i use it as described above, I have a good reason for it... (out of reach, need a higher/lower angle, just need a quick shot) so make sure before you judge someone for it, that you know why they're doing it...

for those that literally shoot all their pictures like that, all i can do is sigh.

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kellenfreeman said:
I have a D90 and thus live view, and whenever i use it as described above, I have a good reason for it... (out of reach, need a higher/lower angle, just need a quick shot) so make sure before you judge someone for it, that you know why they're doing it...

for those that literally shoot all their pictures like that, all i can do is sigh.

Or better yet, just don't pass judgment at all. While this thread is fun one has to ask, does it really matter how someone else uses their personal equipment? Does it really have any impact on our lives?

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pher said:
Threads like these bother me. I think you are ALL old and grumpy - even you Alpha.

You sht on live view. You sht on video. Soon you'll sht on 3D Holograms, because it's cool to be "old school".

Lol so true. If live view gets the job done or helps you accomplish whatever you want, then who cares. These are only tools to make our lives easier.

I always get mad when people put down the autofocus lenses. "Ohh back in my day we didn't have autofocus and it was so awesome" You aren't a real photographer if you are using autofocus. Blah blah blah

yeah then how about you all go back to painting cave walls. geez

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AaronFoto

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This thread has gotten funny. Of course everyone on here sounds grumpy; IT'S THE PET PEEVES THREAD!!! It's supposed to be about things that bother us.

I'll add self-righteous posters to my list pet peeves. HAHA!

But for real, here's another one.... people who refuse to recognize that a good camera takes better photos than their cell phone. Just because we can tell what the picture is of doesn't mean it's good enough. (That's for my iPhone toting, instantly updating to facebook father - embarrassing)

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pher said:
Threads like these bother me. I think you are ALL old and grumpy - even you Alpha.

You sht on live view. You sht on video. Soon you'll sht on 3D Holograms, because it's cool to be "old school".

So were are old and grumpy because we don't find live view very useful? I have a few uses for live view, manually setting white balance, and product photography. As for video, that is what camcorders are for. Why limit yourself with the 5 minute 720p video of a DSLR, when you can shoot for hours with a camcorder?

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pher

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I was being facetious. If you think five minute 720p is somehow a disadvantage - it's not.

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