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Vancouver 2010 Olympics and Taking Photos.

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  • Started 3 years ago by PacificEagle
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  1. cpenner

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    I hope you'll put up with some comments from a Canon snob...

    I've been to the last 3 Olympics, and have brought a camera with me. I have brought in a DSLR with a Tamron 70-300 (Torino) and a Canon 70-200 (2.8L IS) at Beijing. In neither case did anyone care at all about the lens. Nor was I alone in bringing in a moderate zoom lens to the event. A lot of well-heeled people come into town for the Olympics, and the standard of photo equipment goes up. (In fact, a guy I know brought in a 800mm 5.6L IS lens to the water cube without any hassle - but that may be pushing things..) It's more about how you behave with your equipment. Get in other people's way and be annoying, and someone will ask you to stop. Take shots for your own enjoyment - and you'll be just fine. Probably.

    I called VANOC up just now, and the person read me from the spectators guide and prohibited items list. I specifically asked about a zoom lens on a SLR. They said it would be fine - and if for some reason it wasn't, that I could check it with Guest Relations.

    Again - your mileage may vary. Security people at the Olympics are generally pretty reasonable people. I'm looking forward to hearing people's experience.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  2. jonnyapple

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    Welcome, cpenner. We're mostly not militant Nikon users around here, so I think you're safe. It's strange that there's so much conflicting information out there. Anyone who goes, I'm also interested in knowing how it turns out, so keep us posted.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  3. NikoDoby

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    Well I still don't think a DSLR should be your only camera. If it's allowed into some venues then great, but if not then don't get left without a camera. This is exactly why I want a small Nikon EVIL camera! DSLR image quality and versatility in a discreet point & shoot body.

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  4. Proggie

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    It's really frustrating to hear all the conflicting information. Multiple people on various forums saying that dSLRs and lenses are OK after calling VANOC, and one person on here with seemingly very official contacts saying that definitely SLRs are not allowed.

    Who to believe? I'm going to tonight's opening ceremonies. Should I risk taking my gear and then risk not being allowed in and miss the ceremonies that I paid so much money for?
    I'm also attending Ski Jumping in whistler on saturday. To go all that way (have to take my first bus at 4:30am) and then be turned away?

    But then I just KNOW that if I leave my gear home everyone will be allowed in with theirs and I will be kicking myself for years to come.

    Why can't VANOC have a clear and official statement on the matter? I've tried contacting CTV, The Province and have hit a brick wall.

    GRRRRR!

    Posted 3 years ago #
  5. Proggie

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    OK, I called the Vancouver 2010 Integrated Security Unit (http://v2010isu.ca) and talked to a Sergeant Michael Harvey, and he said there are absolutely no restrictions on cameras, aside from flash photography close to the "field of play". I asked about SLRs and zoom lenses and he said they are fine and I could even use flash if I was in the nosebleeds.

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  6. NikoDoby

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    Well good luck then Proggie and share some pics with us when you get back.

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  7. cmykink

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    Early reports are coming in that people have been allowed in with DSLRs of all kinds into BC Place for the Opening Ceremonies with no problems at all. A friend just got in with his large DSLR as well.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  8. Proggie

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    Yup I had no problems with my 70-200 :D hopefully in whistler this morning will be also this smooth

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  9. pz736

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    All,

    First I am new to NR so my apologies if any of this has been said already, but this whole issue of taking a pro camera into a sporting or event venue has become a real issue for me over the last few months, in simple, if I was a dot.com millionaire and purchased a Ferrari no one assumes I am an F1 World Champion, so why if I am a keen amateur photographer and purchase a D3 why am I assumed to be a pro photographer.

    I am going to write a whole article on this over the next few months but fyi I went to Beijing with a D300 and 18-200 and had no problem anywhere, however, last week I was with the head of the South African FA and asked about taking a D3 to the World Cup, he said this would not be a problem, however, as a follow up I sent him an email which he forwarded to the South African FA who promptly cut him off at the knees and this was there reply:

    "The Terms and Conditions of a ticket strictly prohibit any camera. We have made a special concession whereby we allow cellphone cameras and smaller cameras as these are usually for personal use only.
    However, any camera that may be deemed for professional use, as in this case, is not allowed. The stewards are not in a position to determine the intention of the photographer so we do not allow these as a rule.
    This is standard procedure at all major events.

    FIFA Media also patrol the stadium arena and asks us to stop fans from using cameras they deem professional and evict repeat offenders."

    This comment is very contradictory, I am sure you will agree, the other question is are the Stewards in a position to know what a pro. camera is, is a D40 with a 70-200 F2.8 or a D3 with the 18-200 DX lens ???

    I have started a conversation direct with FIFA over this and will update the forum with any answers I get.

    I am highlighting that a good compact camera at 16MP could still take awesome images that can be used commercially therefore by allowing them in is protecting nothing, least to say the amount of people who by low cost DSLR's from Nikon, Sony and Canon.

    So ultimately being an accredited photographer at an event is giving you access and the vantage point which is key to my debate.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  10. NikoDoby

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    Welcome to the forum pz736. That's been my experience in most major sporting events too. Every venue is different and how they enforce the rules is too. I would like to be a steward at such an event but I'd only kick out canon users! Ha Ha :^) Thank you for posting.

    Keep posting updates everyone who is there. Not sure I'll create a separate gallery for Olympic photos since only bmxdad seemed interested, but maybe more people will show an interest as the games go on.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  11. Proggie

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    Just getting back from ski jumping in whistler. No problems here either :)

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  12. adamz

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    proggie - nice event, we got silver today :), can't wait to see gold on the 20th

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  13. nau

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    ok friend of mine went on 2 events there with Pentax and some sort of lens (mid zoom from what I understood) and had no problems ...
    the other friend is going today (tomorrow) - will update

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  14. Tugger

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    Thanks everyone for the updates! Looking good so far. Anyone at short-track speed skating tonight?

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  15. jonnyapple

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    Welcome, Tugger. Are you near Vancouver, then? If so, have you been to any events?

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  16. Tugger

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    Thanks jonnyapple. I'm headed to Vancouver for a few events later in the month. Hoping I can bring along my DSLR!

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  17. ShadeofBlue

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    Anyone try to bring something bigger in, like, say Bigma sized?

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  18. pz736

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    NikoDoby, much thanks for the welcome, it looks like all the scaremongering that has been done by the official channels before the event appear to go out of the window.

    I do have a very senior (and appropriate) contact at the IOC and when Vancouver is over I will have a word with him, also as my employer is one of the sponsors for 2012 it would be good to get this resolved before then - I will try and talk with him.

    Has anyone managed to get in with a 200-400 F4 as yet ? or with a D3 ?

    Thanks

    PZ736

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  19. The Ridgeback

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    I sent the organisers an e-mail asking for clarification regarding DSLR's and recieved a reply this morning.

    This is the response.

    Dear M MC Carthy

    If you have a spectator accreditation there should be no problems using a DSLR. Obviously you are not allowed to use any images for commercial use

    Best regards

    Media Operations

    International Olympic Committee

    From: Mac [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
    Sent: jeudi, 11. février 2010 11:30
    To: Media Operations
    Subject: Clarification needed for spectators using DSLR's

    I need some clarification regarding amature photographers and DSLR's
    at venues throughout the winter olympics.

    At the moment there have been various rumours stating that any person that is non press accredited.
    who turns up to any venue with a professional looking DSLR will not be allowed to bring the camera in to that venue,
    and that only small point and shoot cameras will be allowed.

    I am aware that there will be various restrictions regarding the use of flash photography.

    However are there any such restrictions regarding DSLR's and the amateur photographer.

    Thanks in advance

    M McCarthy.

    So it does appear to be scaremongering, by whom is the next question.
    The only restriction is the use for commercial gain, which is obvious.

    Mac.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  20. Chewy_06

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    Our experience for what it's worth.

    We're just recovering now from the farce that was the women's moguls on Cyrpress last night. I say "farce" only in reference to VANOC's gross incompetence in planning a relatively small event - not in reference to the athlete's or anyone else that was involved.

    We opted to leave the SLR home because of the weather forecast & are glad we did. It was absolutely miserable - windy, cold & wet. However, for what it's worth - there were no restrictions being enforced on digital SLRs at the venue. On the bus ride up, we noticed a gentleman with a large (sorry, i dont know Canon's well enough to know models - suffice it to say it was significantly bigger than my D80+grip) Canon SLR & a large white lens. I chatted with him & determined that he was not accredited media & had the same rig at the opening ceremony the night prior. We maneuvered ourselves behind him through security - there was no discussion with them when he went through. I grabbed the security supervisor to ask him about it after we got through - he told us that there are no camera restrictions only restrictions on professional use of images.

    This guy was the only one who had what looked to be a pro caliber rig in the general admission area, but there were dozens of more modest SLRs there with a range of lenses - most of them wrapped in baggies of some sort.

    So, now, having seen cameras being permitted and having done what a prudent person would have in checking with them myself, i'll be bringing my SLR to our remaining four (indoor - yay!) events.

    Also, i really appreciate the insight that the other posters have shared. It's all information & all information is good so we can try to make informed risk aware decisions in an envronment that has intentionally been left devoid of clear guidance. Thank you everyone!

    Posted 3 years ago #
  21. Bill

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    BRING YOUR DSLR AND HAVE FUN!!!!!
    I HAVE BEEN NOW TO 2 EVENTS, AT THE LAST ONE, SHORT TRACK SPEED SKATING, THERE WERE DSLRs WITH LONG LENSES IN USE ALL OVER THE PLACE - NO PROBLEM AT ALL, PLUS I FOUND THIS POST...
    ""I'm working a Venue as manager in Vancouver for the 2010 Winter Olympics; I thought you might like to know the camera policy. Here is the official policy I took from the Olympic web site:

    "Photography for personal use is permitted, but flash photography is not permitted at Canada Hockey Place, Pacific Coliseum, Richmond Olympic Oval, UBC Thunderbird Arena and The Whistler Sliding Centre. The use of broadcast or photographic equipment for commercial purposes is prohibited."

    I was surpised any manner of camera and lens combo is being allowed in; I did question this personally concerning screening policy. The policy does not talk about tripods or monopods, much to my surprise. Here is the complete list, thought I would pass this on for anyone coming to Vancouver:

    " * Aerosol sprays, flammable liquids, fireworks, water balloon launchers

    *

    Ambush marketing of any kind, distribution of leaflets, pamphlets and non-approved publications, promotional material and wearables
    *

    Animals (except service animals)
    *

    Balls, Frisbees, racquets, hockey sticks, pucks and other sport items
    *

    Bicycles, scooters, skateboards, skates, skis, snowboards, sleds
    *

    Broadcast and lighting equipment from entities other than rights-holding accredited broadcasters and the host broadcaster
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    Broadcasting and recording through the use of mobile phones or other transmitting devices (such as two-way radios, recording devices, PDAs or video cameras) for commercial purposes
    *

    Dangerous, disruptive behaviour or behaviour which disturbs spectators (including, without limitation, public drunkenness, fighting, gambling, spitting, threatening staff or spectators, throwing objects onto the field of play and/or public seating area, political or religious activities)
    *

    Displays of signage and banners containing religious, political, provocative or obscene content and or visible branding and trademarks of sponsor and non-sponsor companies; flags of non-participating countries; flags and banners larger than 2 m x 1 m; poles larger than 0.9 m (flags cannot be attached to any surface in the venue)
    *

    Devices capable of causing a disturbance such as air horns, trumpets, lasers, thundersticks and noisemaking that might disrupt the session or be disturbing to other spectators
    *

    Drugs, needles, prescription-strength medicines not validly prescribed for the ticket bearer by a physician
    *

    Flash photography and other lighting devices (such as laser pens) anywhere around the field of play (exceptions may apply)
    *

    Food and beverages, including alcohol, purchased outside of the venue (except for medical needs)
    *

    Folding chairs or benches (stadium cushions are allowed in mountain venues)
    *

    Glass containers or bottles
    *

    Golf umbrellas, open umbrellas in seating areas disrupting spectators’ views
    *

    Large bags (bags small enough to fit under a seat and not obstruct aisles are allowed) containers, coolers, ice chests
    *

    Smoking (except in designated areas)
    *

    Strollers in a seating bowl or viewing area
    *

    Unauthorized collection of money or commercial activity (such as hawking, ticket resale), sale of counterfeit goods
    *

    Use of radio frequency devices (Wi-Fi, pocket wizards and land mobile radios) that have not been registered and coordinated with Industry Canada prior to entry into the venue"

    Enjoy the games. I'll be working the curling venue. ""

    Posted 3 years ago #
  22. pz736

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    All,

    This is great news and it appears that there are no restrictions, however, I think there is still and overall issue over this problem generally, and collectively we need to get this issue addressed. Also, you only need to get one "jobsworth" at a security gate and the whole issue flares up again. I will continue om my quest and Soap Box and feed back to the forum. If anyone has any good idea's, suggestions or high level contacts please let me know.

    -Gary

    Posted 3 years ago #
  23. NikoDoby

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    So when are you guys actually going to share these photos with us?

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  24. pz736

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    I hope for no commercial gain :-)

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  25. Proggie

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    I'm a Canon user and I joined the forum to get and share information on the photographic policy at the games, but if anyone is interested in the photos I took at the opening ceremony and at ski jumping you can find them in my flickr set (only 3 so far, but more will come as soon as I have time to process them...enjoying the games too much thus far :) ):

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/tym/sets/72157623300622913/

    Posted 3 years ago #

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