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D800 - to buy or not to buy - Hipe

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  1. Paperman

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    TaoTeJared said:

    It doesn't matter if it is a tele or wide - the adjustment basically pushes it up or down based on the focal length. Neutral is usually Shutter = focal length and it moves the ISO from there. The adjustments then push up the shutter 1-2 stops in either direction.

    It works quite well. I do wish it would "remember" my settings for each lens as for VR lenses I can adjust down a couple of stops vs. non-VR.

    Of course if you want a "look" the camera can't tell you do, it just always wants to get the "proper" exposure. I do like the button layout on the D800 - I can change every setting from the buttons very quickly for manual exposure and do not have to dive into the menus.

    D800 is not a journalist/sports photographer camera. If it were the D4 doing this - where the photographer has to get the necessary speed for freezing the action or getting the shot no matter what the quality, I would understand the compromise that comes with increased ISO .

    D800 is a 36 Mp camera and its strength comes from the detail and IQ it offers. When it is a fact that minimum ISO = best IQ, I can't give credit to Nikon for its preference to use AUTO ISO this way - unlike previous cameras. It is giving very little control to the photographer.

    And it is annoying to see AUTO ISO managed different ways in different cameras. The D5000 came with different Auto ISO behaviour than previous models in flash mode. Now with the D800, you have to remember to be in S mode if you want traditional Auto ISO - ( which chooses lowest ISO when possible )

    A minor detail for most probably but as someone unable to understand why Auto ISO is not automatically turned off in MANUAL mode ( in previous models ), this is just another annoyance ( for me ) to get used to - in probably all new Nikons to come....

    Posted 6 months ago #
  2. sevencrossing

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    Paperman said:
    D800 is not a journalist/sports photographer camera.

    Sorry I not realise this,I will stop doing journalistic and sports photography immediately

    Paperman said:
    A minor detail for most probably but as someone unable to understand why Auto ISO is not automatically turned off in MANUAL mode ( in previous models ), this is just another annoyance ( for me ) to get used to - in probably all new Nikons to come....

    I don't know why ether but the auto ISO legend does flash to remind you when switch to Manual

    Posted 6 months ago #
  3. spraynpray

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    Paperman said:
    A minor detail for most probably but as someone unable to understand why Auto ISO is not automatically turned off in MANUAL mode ( in previous models ), this is just another annoyance ( for me ) to get used to - in probably all new Nikons to come....

    I'm not so sure about this. Even when using manual I don't want to have to do manual everything, so I like it that manual only relates to exposure.

    Can't you use a programmable range to get what you want?

    Posted 6 months ago #
  4. Paperman

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    spraynpray said:
    I'm not so sure about this. Even when using manual I don't want to have to do manual everything, so I like it that manual only relates to exposure.

    Can't you use a programmable range to get what you want?

    The problem arises when I switch from S or A mode ( which I do prefer to use with Auto ISO ON ) to Manual when the light is tricky and the ideal exposure is already set in my mind.

    Once in manual, the camera does not care about the manually set exposure and goes for what ever it reads from the scene - changing the ISO to get it right. The only way to protect this is to switch Auto ISO OFF ( by going into the menu - an annoyance ), which I more often than not forget for a good number of shots. ( Am I the only one forgetting this :-) ? )

    A stop or two higher ISO may not worry those with newer DSLRs but it does make a big difference when shooting landscapes with a D300 , which ISO Noisewise sucks even at 400.

    I have read in other forums users complaining about the same issue, some suggesting there should be a menu setting giving a choice of Auto ISO ON / OFF when in Manual mode. After all, when you are in manual, you expect everything to be manual.

    Posted 6 months ago #
  5. sevencrossing

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    Paperman said:
    . The only way to protect this is to switch Auto ISO OFF ( by going into the menu - an annoyance ),

    you do not need to go to the menus
    press the ISO button (top left) and turn the front command dial

    Posted 6 months ago #
  6. spraynpray

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    @Paperman: Ah, gotcha - and no programmable ranges on the D300 either.

    I have to say that I would probably never use auto ISO as a default if I were you, then you would have to switch it on rather than switch it off.

    Posted 6 months ago #
  7. sevencrossing

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    we seem to be going a bit off topic

    so I have started a new thread

    http://nikonrumors.com/forum/topic.php?id=13613#post-125641

    Posted 6 months ago #
  8. theoldnikonian

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    The Nikon D800 is no way a beginners camera and you will need top pro lenses to get best results. Invest in lenses first then upgrade your camera. The D800 is a fantastic camera and well worth the money but you will need a fast computer with plenty of storage. The D800 is not the type of camera that you can snap away taking photos of anything that moves. You have to think more when taking photographs and just shoot the images you need (i.e., who needs 300 pics of a squirrel , lol) been there, done that. Think of the type of photography you want to do, then buy the best lens you need to do the job. Just because the D800 is a top class camera, it won't give top results using cheap lenses so think before you buy. As others have said, there are new Nikon cameras to be released in 2013 so I would wait a little longer and see what is available then. Good luck with your choice. theoldnikonian

    Posted 5 months ago #

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