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D800 Coming In Feb 2010

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  • Started 3 years ago by OpticAce
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  1. OpticAce

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    New Nikon DSLR coming in Feb 2010. Watch out for leaks very soon. 2010 good year for HD DSLRS

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  2. warprints

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    Any support or autority for this claim ???

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  3. jonnyapple

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    OpticAce said:
    2010 good year for HD DSLRS

    I guess 2009 wasn't bad, when you get right down to it.

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  4. Regulator75

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    Link?

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  5. D300 user

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    hmm.. he's right about the date. Dpreview.com is full of posts about early February (that's before PMA which is late February If I'm correct). But why skip the D700s and go straight for D800? D800 would/must imply 1080P 24/30fps. Would be weird if the D3s only has 720P (unless they can update it through firmware in February). I don't think we'll see a D800 but more like a D700s/x. According to the latest dpreview posts we'll see more than a new camera.

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  6. monty11

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    I somehow doubt that people purchase the D3s for its excellent video capabilities so it won't really matter much if the video of the D3s is a bit weaker than the new one's.

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  7. [NR] admin

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    OpticAce, if you have any datails about the D800 you can contact me directly, I can put you in my "source protection program" :)

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  8. adamz

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    so d800 or d900, as stated on the front page of nikonrumors.com or maybe we get both of them:
    - d700s - lord of the darkness
    - d900 - cheap d3x

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  9. HotDuckZ

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    adamz said:
    - d700s - lord of the darkness
    - d900 - cheap d3x

    D700s - Lord of the Darkness!! It's sound scary but I think want it!!!

    D700X, D700X, D700X too!!! :)

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  10. warprints

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    Adamz - I like the way you think.

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  11. bernard

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    It seems strange that the catalog list on the blog quotes the grip as compatible with D300/D700/D900. In my opinion it should read D300s…

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    In my opinion, Nikon needs this to be a "cheap D3x" to stay in the game. Right now, they have nothing to compete with the Canon 5D MkII. A high Resolution FX sensor in the $2000-$3000 range would bring back a lot of market share I think

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  13. optimaforever

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    At the same time, I think a mini D3x will force lots of people to buy new computers and huuuuuge hard disks, so it's a wise move to wait for new i7 generations and cheaper Tbytes (I already use 2x1.5Tb HD but they tend to fill up very quickly; 1.5Gb for 2006, 30Gb for 2007, 350Gb for 2008, 750Gb for 2009, my need for storage grows exponentially):D
    I can't imagine how slow Capture NX2 is for treating 30Mb+ images (no to mention batch operations).
    If the industry keeps making higher resolution files, I'd want them to use better compression algorithms to get smaller files. The video compression algorithms get better every 6 months, so why are we photographers married with lady JPEG for decades now?

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  14. optimaforever

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    I begin to get bored with this "Nikon vs 5DmkII" war.
    All this is just commercial crap. :D

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  15. soap

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    optimaforever said:
    If the industry keeps making higher resolution files, I'd want them to use better compression algorithms to get smaller files. The video compression algorithms get better every 6 months, so why are we photographers married with lady JPEG for decades now?

    A couple of comments.
    First, on lossless compression: For bandwidth-limited predictable signals (of which an image is (unlike random data you know both a set of limits in which the data will be, and that pixel N+1 has a statistical relationship to pixel N)) current best-in-class compression techniques are pushing hard against the limits of information theory. Throwing more CPU and more memory at the problem (assuming a prediction-based encoding scheme) does increase compression, but you're talking diminishing returns. Shaving hairs of percentages off of size for exponential growth in working memory.

    Second, on lossy compression. Video will always be "easier" to encode than stills. Not only is pixel N+1 correlated to pixel N, /frame/ N+1 is highly correlated to frame N. Also (and likely larger) is the fact that lossy compression schemes (as typically used) in A/V are perceptual encoders, playing as much with fooling human perception as with information theory. @ 24fps there are many more perceptual tricks one can play than there are with static images. Add to this the fact that video encoding is an immature technology and there is no surprise the gains in the field are faster than they are in still images.

    Third, on JPEG in particular.
    Like MP3, it is "good enough" and has enough momentum that it will likely stand as the standard until that point in time that lossy compression is unnecessary.
    We're married to lady JPEG because it was a good-enough, scalable standard which came out early enough. There is no point in rocking the boat to shave small percentages at this point in the game.

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  16. NikoDoby

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    Looks like Optic Ace was right...well about the leaks anyway. I'm not sure about the D800/D900 names though, but this is what I have heard...

    Nikon has had two test mules for a very long time now. The "D800" is 18mp and is a new sensor developed by Nikon and made by whoever makes the D3/S sensor. ISO performance is said to be as good as the D3S! :^) The second is a "D900" and it has a "tweaked" D3X 24mp sensor "developed" by Nikon "based" on the Sony a900 sensor. Though Nikon's "modifications" no longer make it a Sony sensor, supposedly maybe.

    It appears the 18mp "D800" is coming to market first and the specs maybe the following (or not):

    18mp
    $3500USD
    3 fps
    96% viewfinder
    dual memory slots
    720p video (I really think this is wrong and it will have 1080p)
    On sale in late March or April

    Perhaps the "D900" will come out first. I hear it will be based on a D90 like no frills body. Perhaps the "affordable" full frame we've been hearing about?

    Maybe the specs are all the other way around, but then what do I know... :^)

    Oh and possible announcement is maybe Feb 2 or 16. That's based on canon making a Feb 9 announcement of their new product(s).

    Ah and the new lenses are going to be the 85mm,24,35 f1.4, a new 80-400 and 24-120. Not sure if they will all be released together though.

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  17. NikoDoby

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    And welcome to the forum Optic Ace :^)

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  18. kyoshinikon

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    Feb3rd?

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  19. [NR] admin

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    The only new cameras I can stand behind for now are the 4 new Coolpix models. Everything else is up in the air as of today. Many speculations and expectation, but nothing confirmed or plausible enough for me to believe it. Maybe Nikon changed something in the way they handle announcements. Maybe they fired the web master who regularly gave us hints (remember the D300s LCD screens or the D3x leaks on nikonusa.com).

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  20. Gentoo

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    adamz said:
    - d700s - lord of the darkness

    LOL! :)

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  21. NikoDoby

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    Admin, I'm starting to hear of a mid to late March announcement?! March is a special month for Nikon isn't it? Any ideas?

    Only 7 days to go for the planned Nikon announcement(s) and not a single leak?! I'm starting to think Nikon has a cruel sense of humor and was giving out misinformation about the D800/900 on purpose to test the public's reaction or Nikon employees with the right info must have literally signed their NDA's with blood!

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  22. jonnyapple

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    Maybe they're waiting until Canon announces something so they can steal the thunder. Or they found and fired the NDA leaks.

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  23. NikoDoby

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    Nikon already knows what canon is going to announce. Nikon's announcement(s) is on the 2/3rd while canon's is on the 9th. It's kinda hard for Nikon to steal thunder when they go first :^(

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  24. jonnyapple

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    I'm saying P&S announcement first, lens/slr announcement after Canon.

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  25. NikoDoby

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    The problem is that the Winter Olympics run from Feb 12-28th. I don't recall Nikon or canon making new product announcements during the Olympics. PMA is Feb 19-23 and Sony, Olympus, Samsung, and others have yet to make their "big" announcements so other possible Nikon dates are hard to find this Feb.

    Posted 3 years ago #

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