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What would make you jump ship?

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  1. Gentoo

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    What's the one thing Nikon can do that will push over the edge? What can they do that will finally cause you to switch to Canon?

    I've read a couple of times that if they don't get their act together with their video, this could cause some to jump ship. While I agree that Nikon needs to get this right or be left behind, for me it's not the reason to leave. For me to go to Canon, Nikon would once again start ignoring us wildlife shooters. They need to get their act together on their super tele lenses already.

    So what would be the reasons for any of you?

    PS, I think we may have had this or a similar discussion before so if we have, please forgive me. I'm too lazy to dig through threads right now.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  2. nikyvee

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    Speaking from the position of a person just jumping INTO Nikon, I am hardly the candidate to be speaking about jumping "to" Canon. After all, I have a "premium" Canon P&S, with manual controls thank you.

    Still, one thing that I have noticed this Christmas season due to my diligent searching of prices, is that Canon has definitely treated all types of photography consumers with a little bit of generosity, while Nikon has focused any holiday discounts on the lower end of their camera spectrum. Naturally that has disappointed me, but I do hope that Nikon's neglect of "kindness" to their higher priced dslr customers won't last forever.

    To summarize:If Canon continues with good/great products AND keeps their prices lower, I suspect folks that don't have too many lenses might make the jump.
    Nick V

    Posted 3 years ago #
  3. ted2001

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    At this point the only reason I'd leave Nikon would be the death of my D90 and Nikon's failure to continue selling DX bodies. I've made a significant investment in DX lenses because I prefer their smaller size and lighter weight, their lower cost is why I have several of them.

    I am anxiously waiting for Nikon to sell a zoom competitive with the Canon 100-400/4-5.6, but would not jump ship because of it, I'll just save longer for the 200-400 and start working out so I can carry it.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  4. bernard

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    Nothing !

    Posted 3 years ago #
  5. warprints

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    Nikon would have to start selling really crappy stuff, or effectively abandon the market ... OR, put another way, if Canon just started putting out equipment that was much better overall than Nikon's offerings.

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  6. crowhop

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    Nikon...Canon they are both just cameras. I have had Canons in the past when shooting film, now I have Nikon. If somehow I lost all my Nikon gear I would look at Canons as well as Nikons to see which better fit my shooting style for a replacement. I never buy anything for the LOGO alone.

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  7. Meinrad

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    I got INTO Nikon half a year ago for three reasons:
    - the low light capability of the D700
    - the existence of the 14-24mm
    - the total quality job Nikon did in handling/using the D700: AE, AF, menu, jpg-quality out of the box, dynamic range.

    All of this is in a way hinged around FX. A flip-flop down the road away from FX would irritate me, but I think this is very unlikely. I am still holding out for something beyond 300mm with AFS,VR and a pricetag below $3000, but that waiting will not make me jump ship again. I jumped TO Nikon after 42 years of SLR experience (plus a few more years of range-finder shooting). I will not jump out, unless Nikon goes bankrupt or gets out of supporting FX.

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  8. NSXType-R

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    bernard said:
    Nothing !

    Agreed!

    Besides, I wouldn't jump ship unless my D40 died and Nikon had some really bad offerings, which I would doubt.

    Then again, ceasing DX bodies would make me reconsider as well, since I had 2 DX lenses.

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  9. shivaswrath

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    i don't think I ever would. . .

    I chose between the two camps 3 years ago and never looked back. . .film days, I used my Dad's Pentax and Minolta, and I was considering the K10 or whatever back in the day (esp given the in camera stabilization, access to all of my dad's lenses, and better sealing than the D80). . .but, the optics are just better at Nikon. . .

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  10. pher

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    The only interest I have in Canon is the community. They've had custom firmware for the P&S that unlocked an intervalometer / manual controls. And now with Magic Lantern their DSLR's have talent working on them. Even Canon has been consistent with FW updates. Nikon has nothing of the sort.

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  11. bmxdad

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    I jump from Canon to Nikon, for one simple reason, Canon's overall lack of lens quality

    Yes Canon does have some F4 fullframe lenses that Nikon are lacking:

    But Canon does not have a sharp cheap 50mm F1.8, theirs are total junk

    18-55DX, 18-105DX is better than what you get from Canon

    My 70-200 VR is simply way sharper compared to the same from Canon and the VRII even better

    The 24-70 2.8 is simply better than the one I have from Canon

    Yes Canon at the moment have the edge in Video mode, after all they have been selling Camcorders for a few years, But Nikon will get it figured out

    Nikon is without a doubt the Leader in Sports/lowlight photography(not incl Video) in both DX and FX format

    So I actually really like shooting Nikon, and will not jump ship again, unless the ship is sinking

    Pete

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  12. ChrisLange

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    all this "jump ship" is so silly these days. back in the day photographers would invest in a camera system with the plan of using it for the foreseeable future, sure they may add to their collection, but they wouldn't ditch a system. My dad bought into the nikon system back when he was at RIT in the 70s with the original F, and has stayed with the brand ever since, now owning a D300 as our most recent nikon. However in addition to that, over the course of his career he has employed nikkormat ELs, a fleet of nikon FE/FE2s, 3 nikon F4s, a few hasselblads of which two 553 ELXs remain, two mamiya RZ67 ProIIs, a graflex crown graphic, a pentax 67, two pentax 645s, and any number of various polaroid cameras, now with the leaf aptus 75S as his sole primary work camera (the d300 is mom's) the only time nikon people in the past would have jumped to canon was sports people when AF was introduced.

    unless for some reason I were to lose all my gear, and my father were to lose all his gear, I don't think we would ever consider canon, and even then I would go back to nikon for the simple fact I love their cameras, and have used them since I was about 3 or 4 years old. As far as I'm concerned there's only one DSLR system I'd consider going to, and that's the Leica S2, and that won't be till I'm out of school, with a job, and a few organs to spare.

    I don't hate canon, we've actually owned a canon, it was a family camera just for snapshots, alongside my dad's favorite FE2.

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  13. warprints

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    Chris, I pretty much agree with you. I started out in SLRs with Minolta equipment. Yeah, Nikon was better in some respects even back then (40 years ago), but Minolta was more innovative and I became heavily invested. Most of my stuff kept working with minolta film cameras right up to the literal end (when Minolta ceased to be). I decided to go digiatl (primarily) and looked at everything that was out there - nikon, canon, etc. Nikon "fit" me the best at the time, and I went with the D300. Now I'm accumulating Nikon stuff (I just love stuff), and I'm not going to jump ship for some insignificant reason. Not necessarily brand loyalty as much as investment in the brand.

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  14. kyoshinikon

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    Never to Canon...

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  15. Jan F. Rasmussen

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    A Canon takeover of Nikon would make me jump for...? Pentax?

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  16. msmoto

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    Winning the Powerball Lottery.....

    I would purchase a medium format camera to play with. But, to switch at this time to a Canon or Sony system, this is just not a practical alternative. Even if Nikon somehow were to change significantly, I have no choice...way to many lenses...

    Posted 6 months ago #
  17. spraynpray

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    I hope Nikon read this: What would make me jump ship?

    BAD SERVICE!

    If there is one thing I HATE it is bad service. If my lovely camera has a problem that is Nikon's fault and they fix it well and free, I'm still happy.

    I have sampled Canon's service just once and never again will I own anything with Canon written on it. Blatant, unrelenting, unashamed bad service gets the same back from me in the form of a slagging off to everybody that wants to listen - and a few that don't LOL!

    Posted 6 months ago #
  18. donaldejose

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    Nothing. Unless Nikon stopped making DSLRs and 10 years passed. Then I would have to go to a different system to get up-to-date technology.

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  19. PB PM

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    If Nikon doesn't get it's act together in terms of quality control, which seems to have been on a steady slide for the past three years, I'd consider jumping ship when I upgrade. I'd rather not switch (I find Canon RAW files a pain to edit), but Nikon's inability to, a) admit fault, b) fix problems quickly, and c) possible downsizing of service centers in the face of growth, is starting to make me feel rather leery about the brand as a whole.

    Posted 6 months ago #
  20. Tradewind 35

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    Yes its failure to keep up quality and failure to respond to quality failings that would put me off - although I don't think it will be acase of people jumping to Canon. Rather I believe that while Nikon and Canon compete over a dimishing market (DSLRS) Fuji will overwhelm them both. Remember when folk wondered whether Agfa and Konica could compete with Kodak - Fuji meanwhile left them in the dust so to speak.
    Robin

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  21. msmoto

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    We grumble, and I include myself, about the quality issues with Nikon. The D600 is one blatant goof and they have admitted it. But, the vast majority of D4's and D800's are working well, doing the job. Unfortunately, here on a forum, a lot of folks come because they have problems, or in my case because I have no paying job.

    But we see a highly biased sample in this forum, most of us love Nikons, hate the troubles if we happen to have some. And, for me, I must remember Nikon is still recovering from two huge disasters.

    And, Canon is no doubt very similar in service, etc., and if one is honest and examines the reviews of lenses, Nikon is very much tops. Canon has good lenses, but the ultimate winners are almost always the Nikkors. (DxOMark)

    Posted 6 months ago #
  22. PB PM

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    Point me to a press release where Nikon (Japan, not subsidiaries) have admitted fault with the AF issues with the D7000 or D800, the dust/bits/oil problem with the D600, the sudden death of D5100's at very low shutter counts, P7000 lens cover failures? The last Nikon recall was for the D5000, and that was what, about three years ago? I can accept that these issues exist in small numbers (10-15% of units sold, that's just a reality of manufacturing), its that they never give public notice that these issues are out there. From what I've seen in recent years Canon has handled these types of situations much better, from a public relation standpoint.

    Does that mean I'll switch? No, but I would consider it if Nikon's track record continues to falter. Keep in mind this is coming from someone who has had nothing but good experiences with all the Nikon gear I have purchased and service repairs that have been excellent. For me the quality of Nikon equipment has been a selling point, but that seems to be falling off. At this point I would not feel comfortable upgrade from my D700 and D300 to any of the models released this past year.

    Realistically the quality of Nikkors and Canon L lenses are so close there is really nothing to write home about, both work more than well enough on modern cameras.

    Posted 6 months ago #
  23. sevencrossing

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    Despite using Nikon's for nearly 50 years I have no experience of their repair service

    nothing has ever failed

    ( well I did trash a Nikonos but that was hardly Nikon's fault)

    I have used technical support and found the response quick and helpful

    Jump ship ? not me

    you can bury me at sea, with my D800 and 24 -120 f 4 vr

    Posted 6 months ago #
  24. spraynpray

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    PB PM said:
    Point me to a press release where Nikon (Japan, not subsidiaries) have admitted fault with the AF issues with the D7000 or D800, the dust/bits/oil problem with the D600, the sudden death of D5100's at very low shutter counts, P7000 lens cover failures? The last Nikon recall was for the D5000, and that was what, about three years ago? I can accept that these issues exist in small numbers (10-15% of units sold, that's just a reality of manufacturing), its that they never give public notice that these issues are out there. From what I've seen in recent years Canon has handled these types of situations much better, from a public relation standpoint.

    Does that mean I'll switch? No, but I would consider it if Nikon's track record continues to falter. Keep in mind this is coming from someone who has had nothing but good experiences with all the Nikon gear I have purchased and service repairs that have been excellent. For me the quality of Nikon equipment has been a selling point, but that seems to be falling off. At this point I would not feel comfortable upgrade from my D700 and D300 to any of the models released this past year.

    Realistically the quality of Nikkors and Canon L lenses are so close there is really nothing to write home about, both work more than well enough on modern cameras.

    I seem to remember a battery recall earlier this year?

    Posted 6 months ago #
  25. R8R

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    If Fuji put out a 24mp full frame version of the X-Pro1, with adapters for Nikon glass...

    Other than that, probably nothing. A camera is a tool. I happen to like how the Nikon's feel and operate. If some other company appeals to me more in the future, then I might jump. There would have to be a VERY compelling reason though.

    Unless that happens, I intend to go to the grave with my D3.

    Posted 6 months ago #

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