spraynpray said:
Chimping is what having screens on the back of our cameras has done to us - we look like chimps when they are looking down intent on something!

LOVE IT!

Chimping is what having screens on the back of our cameras has done to us - we look like chimps when they are looking down intent on something!

SkintBrit said:
Star pics?

Geez, must refer to the Ligthroom3 rating system or something like that. In many years I have not had the problem of red crosses described by SkintBrit, and I am wondering if this is because I format the card after each download. This does create a need to renumber but it keeps the card clean. Maybe this is related to the card size as well.

In camera edit, the "double punch" of the delete button, allows me to download all the images I have left in the camera. The I go through each image, assign a "possible" rating, in my case 2 stars, and then delete from the hard drive the ones which have not made the second edit. Next is the "grouping of similar images, and another edit. And the final image "processing" which is equivalent to burn and dodge in the old days.

And, I have no idea why I am getting into this on this thread.... just happens to old folks, ha, ha, ha!

And what is "chimping?"

kyoshinikon said:
you still cannot star pics in camera (especially because now canon added that feature.)

Star pics?

On my V1, over the weekend, I accidentally switched to the electronic shutter while fiddling with my camera's settings. That wasn't particularly crazy, but when I then rattled off a 60 FPS burst, well, lets just say that I now have nearly 60 identical copies of a very carelessly composed photo of a sign.

I thought I had broken the playback function for a second.

I have come across the problem (the few shoots I forget to put fresh cards in my bag). I prefer deleting pics one by one. The ones I like I lock just in case. I am pissed that you still cannot star pics in camera (especially because now canon added that feature.)

I've never had that problem Skinty and I delete off card frequently when chimping.

SkintBrit said:
Am I right in thinking that deleting single frames throughout a shoot increases that likelyhood of the card corrupting? Sometimes when I've done that in the past, I see little red squares with a red cross in them instead of the image that should be there, when reviewing the shots on the back of the camera. Any one else experienced this? It only seems to happen a while after deleting single shots in camera.

I haven't ever ran across this when deleting them in camera. I mean the camera is accessing the card every time you take a picture or view a picture or almost do anything with the camera...so I don't think deleting them in camera really puts any additional strain on them to cause corruption.

However with card prices I think having extra cards is probably the easiest solution. If you are in that sort of situation do you really want to be trying to delete individual pictures? Also I have had pictures that look nice on the camera and really aren't nice on the computer or vice versa. I never fill my card up though and I have an extra in case.

Am I right in thinking that deleting single frames throughout a shoot increases that likelyhood of the card corrupting? Sometimes when I've done that in the past, I see little red squares with a red cross in them instead of the image that should be there, when reviewing the shots on the back of the camera. Any one else experienced this? It only seems to happen a while after deleting single shots in camera.

JY said:
@SkinBrit "Am I paranoid?"

You don't want to delete all these "junk" and then realize you forgot to lock those shots that you meant to keep.
I would rather go through more pictures infront of my computer than losing those keepers.

If I am doing a formal shoot, that is an assignment, I certainly do not want to delete anything except by using the single delete function. This I do as a "first camera edit" in enlarging in the viewer, running through the images, deleting all the technically unacceptable ones in the camera. And this is usually during the shoot itself, provided I have time and the ability to reshoot if I screw up.

Being careful goes back about 40 years after returning from a shoot where I was on a 10 foot high rig on a 25 foot power boot, shooting for a large manufacturer of power boats. A wild ride to say the least. Hasselblad 500c's I think, 250 and 150 lenses, three day shoot. Returned back from the ocean to High Point, NC, and film was taken by the assistant to the lab in our studio, where it was developed. Oh, shucks! In processing the Ektachrome some glitch occurred and the film drained between the stop and color step or some nightmare like that. First dozen rolls I think.... streaks on all frames.

The issue was corrected after I threw a hissy fit and maybe some other things, and we salvaged the job. Three days and fifteen people, about 10 power boats, not something you want to try and shoot over.

The point..... caution and step by step rechecking and double checking and measuring twice, all the extra care things, taking no shortcuts!!!! This is what one does to avoid disaster. Somehow I think the "delete all" feature is a short cut.

@SkinBrit "Am I paranoid?"

You don't want to delete all these "junk" and then realize you forgot to lock those shots that you meant to keep.
I would rather go through more pictures infront of my computer than losing those keepers.

DutchNikon said:
If this sounds so scary, why don't you give it a try ?
Just shoot away on an empthy memory card, then lock some of the pic's, and use the "delete all" function ( not the format.. :-) ) and see what you end up with...

I consider this kind off experiments part of the "Know your Equiment" learning curve.. try every function and see how it can help you...

Other Advantages of the "Lock & delete all"method :
- Saves time when downloading to your PC
- Frees up space "in the field" if on memory shortage.

Oh I understand the theory alright, and your examples of the benefits it offers are all excellent and very useful......I just couldn't do it :-) I suppose if I found myself in a situation where I had run out of memory space I might be tempted to try it, but at the moment, I've never had to make that decision. Am I paranoid?

>>This discovery changed my entire outlook on the universe.<<

Maybe your universe is about to change a bit more :
If you register with Nikon (free) then you can download the manuals in PDF format ...

I've bought all three of my grips (MB-D10, MB-D80, MB-15) second-hand so I've never seen the manual that comes with them. After years of constantly misplacing the rubber contact cover/battery door, I thought to myself, "Wouldn't it be great if when they design the next one of these, they give you a place to store this stupid little piece I keep loosing?"
I went to go see where I would put it if I were in charge and sure enough, on all three, there's a place to store the cover/door while you're using your grip. This discovery changed my entire outlook on the universe. I even went and woke my wife up to tell her what I had found.

DutchNikon said:

Just shoot away on an empthy memory card, then lock some of the pic's, and use the "delete all" function ( not the format.. :-) ) and see what you end up with...

I consider this kind off experiments part of the "Know your Equiment" learning curve.. try every function and see how it can help you...

Absolutely, I do this! No way to learn than to try. I have mentioned on another thread about my habit of sticking a prime on, even a long lens, e.g.., 135mm on DX, and simply going out and shooting. What I find is a new learning curve. Rather than zooming in and out, I actually have to move. Discover distance to subject, etc. So, I could not agree more to the "Know Your Equipment" learning curve.

If this sounds so scary, why don't you give it a try ?
Just shoot away on an empthy memory card, then lock some of the pic's, and use the "delete all" function ( not the format.. :-) ) and see what you end up with...

I consider this kind off experiments part of the "Know your Equiment" learning curve.. try every function and see how it can help you...

Other Advantages of the "Lock & delete all"method :
- Saves time when downloading to your PC
- Frees up space "in the field" if on memory shortage.

DutchNikon said:
Best unsuspected feature recently (D300 / D300s): When having done some shooting of a subject and reviewing the shots on the LCD, i press the "Lock Button" (the little key button) for the shots i wanna keep, then afterwards its super fast deleting the not wanted shots by using the "Delete All"function in the playback menu, and it speeds up the work after downloading to the PC because the locked shots are found quickly by Capture NX2 ..

Yup, this takes a lot of chutzpah to delete everything. I always format the memory card after I download. And even if images are "locked" they go the same way everything else does when formatted. Gone. So, a bit of caution before concluding the "locked" function actually is bullet proof. It prevents delete, but not format erasure.

DutchNikon said:
Best unsuspected feature recently (D300 / D300s): When having done some shooting of a subject and reviewing the shots on the LCD, i press the "Lock Button" (the little key button) for the shots i wanna keep, then afterwards its super fast deleting the not wanted shots by using the "Delete All"function in the playback menu, and it speeds up the work after downloading to the PC because the locked shots are found quickly by Capture NX2 ..

You've got shots on your card that you want to keep, and you confirm a "Delete All" question? You're braver than me! :-)

Anaxagoras said:
I cannot imagine buying any camera without browsing through the manual first.

Great idea. Except all the cameras which are new and the one's we are very anxious to have and the one's we have been waiting.... maybe a year for, like the D4, mmm.... no manual online yet. But I have studied the D3s manual and find the nice thing about Nikon is the consistency between models at the pro level. No major changes to screw up old folks like me, ha, ha, ha.....

That's a sweet function Dutch. Now I just gotta get a D300s and NX2 (and shots I wanna keep).

Best unsuspected feature recently (D300 / D300s): When having done some shooting of a subject and reviewing the shots on the LCD, i press the "Lock Button" (the little key button) for the shots i wanna keep, then afterwards its super fast deleting the not wanted shots by using the "Delete All"function in the playback menu, and it speeds up the work after downloading to the PC because the locked shots are found quickly by Capture NX2 ..

The [worst] feature I found purely by accident . . . the D3s does not have separate flash exposure compensation control. The work-around is to set shutter speed and aperture manually, then use exposure compensation to control any connected Speedlight. Thankfully, this has been corrected in the D4.

Ok, it's pre-digital but I have a similar "lights on top" story. The first time I used my F4 at night and saw its viewfinder light up, I thought it was the best thing since sliced bread!

Apparently, the F3HP I had been shooting for years had this feature as well, but the little light-bulb in its viewfinder had burnt out well before I purchased it (used) so I never knew...

In all seriousness, I did go through my D700 manual when I first got it and it was a lot of "blah blah blah.. but how do I turn it on?". 6 months later I went through again with alot of "Omg! That is incredibly useful!"

more then 2 years later and 150,000 shutter activations.. "there are lights on top?"

Cannot see the trees for the forest sometimes...

Anaxagoras said:
The manual is all too often the round, silvery, disc thingy :-)

were is the like button ?

PS dont try printing it
it will cost a fortune in ink :(