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		<title>Nikon Rumors Forum &#187; Topic: 10 or 12 mm fixed for dx?</title>
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			<title>NikoDoby on "10 or 12 mm fixed for dx?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 00:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>NikoDoby</dc:creator>
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			<description><p>This thread has turned into another "what's the best wide-angle lens" thread and we have enough of those already.
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			<title>abetanco on "10 or 12 mm fixed for dx?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 00:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>abetanco</dc:creator>
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			<description><blockquote><p><cite>DutchNikon <a href="http://nikonrumors.com/forum/topic.php?id=4048#post-68006">said</a>:</cite><br />
And if your not into Fish Eye's (?) then also the Sigma 8-16 zoom ( okay not a prime) is a lovely toy to play with ( anyways, I love this one..).
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<p>Sigma 10-20mm f/4-5.6 is a good alternative if you like to use filters and not to spend too much
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			<title>kanuck on "10 or 12 mm fixed for dx?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 11:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>kanuck</dc:creator>
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			<description><p>I had the 11-16mm Tokina for awhile and loved the 11mm range but wanted a little wider not much, but a bit more. I'd go for the 10mm Sigma prime and correct it in post processing if you don't want the fisheye look. Seriously you can make it flat if you want! otherwise the 11-16mm Tokina is solid pro 2.8 glass.
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			<title>The Man From Mandrem on "10 or 12 mm fixed for dx?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 12:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>The Man From Mandrem</dc:creator>
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			<description><p>The 11-16 small range is like an on-off switch for perspective distortion : )<br />
But range is small so you end up swapping back to other lenses too often-- Frustrating aspect of this lens (Mike's dilemma?)<br />
DOF control w/wider aperture can be useful SOMETIMES, but the cheaper (and optically equal) Tokina 12-24 OR Nikon's newer UWA zoom are smarter.  I am happy w/ 11-16 on D7000 but the absurdity of this choice is hidden by a healthy collection of primes.
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			<title>R8R on "10 or 12 mm fixed for dx?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 00:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>R8R</dc:creator>
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			<description><p>I'll echo what others have said about the Tokina 11-16mm - it's pretty much a prime since it's f/2.8 constant and the zoom range is so short. Great lens, I'm having a blast with it.
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			<title>casperwb on "10 or 12 mm fixed for dx?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 23:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>casperwb</dc:creator>
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			<description><p>I agree totally with Mike</p>
<p>cannot justify a fixed/prime wide when there are so many high quality wide high speed  zooms available.</p>
<p>wide angle and depth of field? well we all know the answer to that, and as Mike said, the use of a tripod will allow you to get the results you need with a f2.8, or any aperture.</p>
<p>and last but not least, I usually stop down to get the best sharpness and depth of field from these lenses, so fast is out the window anyways.
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			<title>DutchNikon on "10 or 12 mm fixed for dx?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 17:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>DutchNikon</dc:creator>
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			<description><p>And if your not into Fish Eye's (?) then also the Sigma 8-16 zoom ( okay not a prime) is a lovely toy to play with ( anyways, I love this one..).
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			<title>Mike Gunter on "10 or 12 mm fixed for dx?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Mike Gunter</dc:creator>
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			<description><p>Hi,</p>
<p>I have the Tokina 11-16 and the 12-24mm Nikon, I'm going to sell one, I don't know which. The 10.5mm as it's on niche in its fisheyeness as kyoshinikon points out. There are times I would like it for that, but can hardly justify it.</p>
<p>Wide zoom lens don't, IMHO, suffer some of the foibles of medium and short teles for needing some faster apertures that a prime lens would be keen on helping in the mix.</p>
<p>While it would be good, at times, to get a shorter duration shutter, the wider lenses are more forgiving for shutter speed. At my age, I tend to use a tripod anyway, so that helps a heap.</p>
<p>The point I'm driving at in my opinion is that there are a number of zooms that really make a prime lens choice unnecessary in the general DX lens wide range.</p>
<p>My best,</p>
<p>Mike
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			<title>TaoTeJared on "10 or 12 mm fixed for dx?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>TaoTeJared</dc:creator>
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			<description><p>Sigma has a 8mm, 10mm, 15mm fisheyes.  Tokina has a 10-17mm fisheye zoom.  There is a 12-24mm F4 Tokina as well.  </p>
<p>All cost a pretty penny but are good lenses.
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			<title>kyoshinikon on "10 or 12 mm fixed for dx?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>kyoshinikon</dc:creator>
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			<description><p>Welcome to the forum.  I will say this has sorta been covered in other threads (Likely for this one to be closed) but to answer your question...  no.  If you don't mind the fisheyeness the 10.5 mm f2.8 is a fantastic lens (I love mine). Other than that they are all zooms (IE 12-24mm, 10-24mm, 11-16mm tokina) which are all fine lenses anyway.</p>
<p>Nikon has a patent out for a 10mm f/4 aspherical Fx lens which I'm begging Nikon to make (I'm a sucker for wideangles)
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			<title>VelocityStop on "10 or 12 mm fixed for dx?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 14:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>VelocityStop</dc:creator>
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			<description><p>Kind of... there is the Nikon 10.5mm f/2.8 Fisheye. If you don't want the fisheye effect, there is the Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8 (as good as a fixed lens and with such a short zoom range might as well be). You can read more about both here: <a href="http://nikonrumors.com/forum/topic.php?id=3827" rel="nofollow">http://nikonrumors.com/forum/topic.php?id=3827</a>
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			<title>knipser_nr on "10 or 12 mm fixed for dx?"</title>
			<link>http://nikonrumors.com/forum/topic.php?id=4048#post-67866</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 13:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>knipser_nr</dc:creator>
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			<description><p>does anyone have an idea if there exists any 10 or 12 mm fixed lens, which would fit somehow on a d7000? thanks a lot and greetings
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