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		<title>Nikon Rumors Forum &#187; Topic: 16-85 vs kit 18-55</title>
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			<title>mb on "16-85 vs kit 18-55"</title>
			<link>http://nikonrumors.com/forum/topic.php?id=268#post-3877</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>mb</dc:creator>
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			<description><p>You are good, yes you are ... now go and shoot something for crying out loud!
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			<title>telecomm on "16-85 vs kit 18-55"</title>
			<link>http://nikonrumors.com/forum/topic.php?id=268#post-3861</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 11:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>telecomm</dc:creator>
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			<description><p>Hi all, just thought I'd check back in to say that I picked up the 16-85 this morning and I'm really happy with it. :-)</p>
<p>Now if only I had more time to get out today to play with it! :-D
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			<title>mb on "16-85 vs kit 18-55"</title>
			<link>http://nikonrumors.com/forum/topic.php?id=268#post-3532</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 16:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>mb</dc:creator>
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			<description><p>You have 17-55mm f/2.8G ED-IF AF-S DX, 28-70mm f/2.8 ED-IF AF-S or 24-70mm f/2.8G ED AF-S to chose from, all more than twice the price of 16-85 but if you need them it is not too much.
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			<title>AcquaCow on "16-85 vs kit 18-55"</title>
			<link>http://nikonrumors.com/forum/topic.php?id=268#post-3449</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 00:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>AcquaCow</dc:creator>
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			<description><p>Yeah, I have a 28/2.8, 35/2, and 50/1.8... I use them heavily.</p>
<p>But for lit scenes, I can't really justify purchasing the 16-85 when I already have the 18-70, even if I sold the 18-70... I don't think there's much of a benefit for me to do that. The few added mm in the zoom range just isn't enough of a feature to sell me, and the VR really isn't needed at 18-70...</p>
<p> -- Dave
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			<title>mb on "16-85 vs kit 18-55"</title>
			<link>http://nikonrumors.com/forum/topic.php?id=268#post-3437</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 17:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>mb</dc:creator>
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			<description><p>16-85 is a bit better lens than 18-70  but not much (though a bit slower at 70 I know that).<br />
If you want something really fast go for primes, they are a couple of really full stops faster.
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			<title>AcquaCow on "16-85 vs kit 18-55"</title>
			<link>http://nikonrumors.com/forum/topic.php?id=268#post-3413</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 00:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>AcquaCow</dc:creator>
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			<description><p>Bah, it's close enough to a stop, lol!</p>
<p>I do want the 16-85, but I think I will end up with something faster...and heavier =P</p>
<p> -- Dave
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			<title>heartyfisher on "16-85 vs kit 18-55"</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 22:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>heartyfisher</dc:creator>
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			<description><p>@ acquaCow.. : I know what you mean.. I have the 18-70 and at 4.5 and 70mm its nice.. (but 4.5 is not a full stop faster than 5.6)  16 is a significant difference to 18mm..  sigh ... </p>
<p>I have been wanting to get the 16-85 for a while now.... but still cant justify the price and the overlaps( I have the 18-70 and the 18-200VR. and the 35-70f2.8 and 50mm 1.4 Ais)
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			<title>AcquaCow on "16-85 vs kit 18-55"</title>
			<link>http://nikonrumors.com/forum/topic.php?id=268#post-3408</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 21:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>AcquaCow</dc:creator>
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			<description><p>No, the 18-70 is a full stop faster than the 16-85 at 70mm...</p>
<p>They are about the same at their widest, but by 70mm, the 18-70 is at f/4.5, while the 16-85 is at 5.6...</p>
<p>-- Dave
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			<title>mb on "16-85 vs kit 18-55"</title>
			<link>http://nikonrumors.com/forum/topic.php?id=268#post-3358</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 19:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>mb</dc:creator>
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			<description><p>18-70mm f/3.5-4.5G ED-IF AF-S is no faster then 16-85mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR AF-S, and for the price f/3.5 is as fast as you could expect from Nikon.
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			<title>AcquaCow on "16-85 vs kit 18-55"</title>
			<link>http://nikonrumors.com/forum/topic.php?id=268#post-3356</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 19:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>AcquaCow</dc:creator>
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			<description><p>I really wish the 16-85 was at least one stop faster than it is... then I wouldn't mind picking it up and putting my old 18-70 to rest, but I really really enjoy how fast the 18-70 is for a "cheap" zoom...</p>
<p>:(</p>
<p> -- Dave
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			<title>telecomm on "16-85 vs kit 18-55"</title>
			<link>http://nikonrumors.com/forum/topic.php?id=268#post-3344</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 14:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>telecomm</dc:creator>
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			<description><p>Thanks for your comments everyone. I think I'm sold on the idea. :-)</p>
<p>The only other option suggested in another forum was the Sigma 18-50mm F2.8 EX DC Macro HSM (I would need that version as I've got a D60), and I'm going to give it some thought before pulling the trigger, but I think I'm leaning towards the Nikon.
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			<title>mb on "16-85 vs kit 18-55"</title>
			<link>http://nikonrumors.com/forum/topic.php?id=268#post-3298</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 17:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>mb</dc:creator>
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			<description><p>Upgrading 18-55 kit lens to 16-85 would bring very noticeable improvement.
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			<title>Henry Nikon Fan on "16-85 vs kit 18-55"</title>
			<link>http://nikonrumors.com/forum/topic.php?id=268#post-3283</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 15:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Henry Nikon Fan</dc:creator>
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			<description><p>The AF-S DX 16-85mm VR lens is far superior to the AF-S DX 18-55mm VR lens.  It has more features and is better made.  In some ways when you consider the cost it could even be considered better than the AF-S DX 17-55mm lens since it is several years old now and does not have VR.
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			<title>bmxdad on "16-85 vs kit 18-55"</title>
			<link>http://nikonrumors.com/forum/topic.php?id=268#post-3276</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 12:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>bmxdad</dc:creator>
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			<description><p>I am also very pleased with my 16-85, by the way the VR is also very effective</p>
<p>Pete
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			<title>monty11 on "16-85 vs kit 18-55"</title>
			<link>http://nikonrumors.com/forum/topic.php?id=268#post-3260</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 03:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>monty11</dc:creator>
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			<description><p>I was very happy with upgrading to a 16-85 and I have no regrets.
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			<title>telecomm on "16-85 vs kit 18-55"</title>
			<link>http://nikonrumors.com/forum/topic.php?id=268#post-3259</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 03:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>telecomm</dc:creator>
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			<description><p>I'm looking to upgrade from my kit lens to something with better image quality. I like the range of the kit lens, but can't afford to get the 17-55mm f/2.8.</p>
<p>Would upgrading to the 16-85mm bring a noticeable improvement, or is my money better spent on something else?
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