jbl said:
Like I said earlier, this is a different kind of photography, the interesting part that you should enjoy is not the technique of the camera holder, it's the light, the subject, the concepts, the meaning, etc. It's like a very good picture of a sculpture, the art piece is the sculpture.

I enjoy this kind of art in a different way.

Famous video artist Bill Viola used to work in a similar way, well he gets his hand a bit dirtier but it all comes down to being a director rather than photographer or cameraman.

I'd admire a street photographer for his mastery of seeing the right subject at the right time and having the perfect technique in that situation, aka dealing with the reality... however Gregory Crewdson should be enjoyed for the final result only, he sculpts reality.

x2

Thank you for not making me repeat myself gazillion times.

Like I said earlier, this is a different kind of photography, the interesting part that you should enjoy is not the technique of the camera holder, it's the light, the subject, the concepts, the meaning, etc. It's like a very good picture of a sculpture, the art piece is the sculpture.

I enjoy this kind of art in a different way.

Famous video artist Bill Viola used to work in a similar way, well he gets his hand a bit dirtier but it all comes down to being a director rather than photographer or cameraman.

I'd admire a street photographer for his mastery of seeing the right subject at the right time and having the perfect technique in that situation, aka dealing with the reality... however Gregory Crewdson should be enjoyed for the final result only, he sculpts reality.

Not sure that I like it at all, seems a bit contrived and all about his ego, rather than the picture.

Then again, I also have my own ego to contend with........

wow that's a lot of setup for that shot ... cant say I dont like it but its not on my top 10 for sure (especially knowing how much work was involved in setting up)

You guys have obviously never heard of Gregory Crewdson have you?

He spends months planning his shoots and uses a large team to "photograph" his pictures. I have no idea why he's know as a photographer. All he does is sit around while others set the scene up and get his camera ready. He's more like a director. Then he literally just presses the shutter button and that's it! He gets all the credit.

"I'm not particularly comfortable with holding the camera. I never hold the cameras." - Photographer Gregory Crewdson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RywAfP4KFcY

As long as you stand still and don't drop the spray can

Pete

Well, it's Sunday, I have just finished a late roast lunch and am stuffed - does that qualify? ;^)

nau said:
dont care ... usually u can see staged ones
and even if you can not ... well done to the 'actor' and the 'producer'

Or you could use that Amy Stein style of Photography, that Niko mentioned in the Animals in Zoo thread http://nikonrumors.com/forum/topic.php?id=2058. Now where do you find a stuffed human being

Pete

Well said, Nau. Those are my feelings on this and the zoo issue.

dont care ... usually u can see staged ones
and even if you can not ... well done to the 'actor' and the 'producer'

I don't think so- same idea as the wild vs. zoo shots- Thom Hogan was talking about that in his latest post. He went to a reservation to make some of his shots.

Unless you're submitting it into a contest and you're lying about it, I don't think it's such a big deal.

Follow up to Adamz -
what about staged shots that look like street grabs? Should the staged shots be identified as such?