ChrisLange said:
It's not the FPS, NSX, it's the ability to not have to reload and miss a moment. But incidentally I believe it's about 4.5-5.

I see the point, when you're moving at that speeds you'll chew through film really quick if it's 24 or 36 exposures.

That's still a respectable frame rate.

On a side note, the F5 will do 8 right?

That's right up there with current DSLRs. Impressive stuff.

It's not the FPS, NSX, it's the ability to not have to reload and miss a moment. But incidentally I believe it's about 4.5-5.

kyoshinikon said:
I totally do the same thing!

The grips on modern slr's dont compare to the crap you could attach to your nikon F2. 250 shots a roll too...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nikon-F2-S-Total-System-Camera_W0QQitemZ290397786759QQcmdZViewItemQQptZFilm_Cameras?hash=item439d0e9287

Holy crap!

How many FPS can that thing crank out?

I do not want to carry that for the whole day.

NSXType-R said:
I keep looking down and I see the outside of the film back and remember, oh yeah, I'm actually shooting film so I can't see it until I develop it.

I totally do the same thing!

The grips on modern slr's dont compare to the crap you could attach to your nikon F2. 250 shots a roll too...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nikon-F2-S-Total-System-Camera_W0QQitemZ290397786759QQcmdZViewItemQQptZFilm_Cameras?hash=item439d0e9287

ted2001 said:
With all the nostalgia surrounding film and older cameras I got out my old Nikon kit yesterday and player around with it for a bit. The F3HPs do have bright big finders and they are all metal, but I found the body oddly un-ergonomic. It felt heavy and awkward in comparison with my D90. I don't mind the D90 finder either.

Made the decision to dump all my old film bodies. 3 F3HPs, 1 F2A and 3 Contax G2s. I should get enough for a D300s and another tripod.

If you don't like carrying that extra battery, how do you feel about carry all those cans of film. My memory card and battery last for many hundreds of uninterrupted photos and without a ridiculous back my film cameras stopped every 36 exposures.

Yeah, they don't have the grips that modern SLR's do, that's the only thing. But honestly, they're way thinner than most modern DSLRs too.

It was weird shooting with a FM2 when I'm used to a D40. I keep looking down and I see the outside of the film back and remember, oh yeah, I'm actually shooting film so I can't see it until I develop it.

*facepalm*

NikoDoby said:
Pretty good deal Chris, but do you know how to use it, lol ;^)

Hey I came across a box filled with some old test strips. Am I the only person who saves their test strips?

Of course, Niko, I have a 4x5 Omega D-II at the moment at my home darkroom, along with an old Durst 606. Schneider Componon-S lenses in all of them. Here at school we use the Beseler 23C Mk.2s, which I don't like nearly as much as my Omega.

I have yet to have an old box die on me and not be able to take my photos out of it! :^)

Boxes and boxes. I like hard drives with back-up better.

Pretty good deal Chris, but do you know how to use it, lol ;^)

Hey I came across a box filled with some old test strips. Am I the only person who saves their test strips?

You digital people make my life so easy :)

I just scored a great condition Durst Laborator L1000 on ebay for $25. I'm going to pick it up over spring break when I'm home from college. Not bad considering that enlarger is usually found for at least $400 up into the $900-$1200 range.

Well said Sandpiper! I agree with you 100%! I love the memories of film and still enjoy it every now and then but I'm not going to sell my digital gear and "switch" back to film.

I have my old FE2 on the desk here sitting at me. I miss using the camera, but I really don't miss processing and printing the film. I still have my Axomat enlarger, and a few other tools, and probably my bulk film loader. But I spent too many long nights trying to get the color correct printing color pictures in my kitchen, I won't do that again. It is too hard to control the temperature, takes too long to print, decide on color correction, print again.....

Now B&W would not be too bad, but I just don't move images to paper anymore. I have a 30 inch monitor, and would rather look at them there.

"Nostalgia ain't what it used to be"

With all the nostalgia surrounding film and older cameras I got out my old Nikon kit yesterday and player around with it for a bit. The F3HPs do have bright big finders and they are all metal, but I found the body oddly un-ergonomic. It felt heavy and awkward in comparison with my D90. I don't mind the D90 finder either.

Made the decision to dump all my old film bodies. 3 F3HPs, 1 F2A and 3 Contax G2s. I should get enough for a D300s and another tripod.

If you don't like carrying that extra battery, how do you feel about carry all those cans of film. My memory card and battery last for many hundreds of uninterrupted photos and without a ridiculous back my film cameras stopped every 36 exposures.

Can't miss something you never experienced. Though, hanging out in a darkroom sounds about as fun as being stuck in traffic. I do like the way film looks but the workflow process is not for me.

I very much like to look cinema! I try not to pass, but always I have time to reconsider all novelties.

Kyoshi, I think your nickname should be the necromancer. I've never seen so many resurrected threads. ;-)

To an extent... I wonder if nikon will ever try a F7... "smirk"

I shoot film, and have since 1969. Film cameras are an F6, and an FM3a. Also use a D700 frequently. I use Ilford FP4, do my own developing and scan the negs to the computer.
It's the best of both worlds. No reason why the two disciplines can't co-exist!

Do I miss Film ? No ... I still use it.

The only thing I miss about film is the size and design of the Nikon FE body, not to mention the brighter viewfinder. It would be great to have an D3s FX sensor in an FE/FM style body. Of course my D300 is easier to hold for long periods of time.

B&W dev is fine to put down the drain, as is stop. The only thing relatively hazardous is used fix, and even then it's not terribly toxic. I would be careful with it if I lived in an urban area, but when I come home from university for break, I'm in the absolute middle of nowhere. It really depends on the chemistry used as well.

If you're doing color work, that's a whole nother ballgame, and those chemicals should be treated appropriately.

I retain all my chemicals as well, the only thing down the drain on a regular basis is extremely highly diluted Rodinal (1+100 or 1+50 ratios).

and Niko: I like DD-X because it gives full film speed, good contrast, fine grain, and is very usable for pushing with nearly any film. It's a concentrate, so it lasts a while, and I have never really gotten jived on a roll I used it with. I'd say I like it just a bit more than D76, it's essentially the Ilford version of Xtol, with a few variations in characteristics. It works beautifully with Delta 100 and 400, FP4+ too.

So is it safe or not? So should I dump it or not?

You see, Chris, look how bad film is! You're killing the freakin' environment with your blasted chemicals!

Yea, you can get an electrodeposition device to remove the silver from your own fixer, the name on mine is "Silver Magnet". Not sure how much hazard is left in fixer after you do that.
Photoflo is basically soap (and not a high phosphorus one at that), so that's cool down the drain.
Stop is nothing a (relatively) mild acid, dilute it and you have vinegar, so that's cool.
Developer is /primarily/ alkaline, neutralize it and that issue can be addressed - not sure, though, what all results after you pH neutralize it.

I'll admit - I dump the developer every time. Not sure how much downstream harm I'm causing, but I've never bothered to calculate exhaustion and thusly modify time.

Fixer I keep until I extract the silver (or more precisely have my silver extracted for me), which takes a looooong time at current consumption levels. My five gallon bucket holds, what? (back of the envelope time) enough fixer for 25-30 double 35 tank loads? So if you reuse the fixer thrice that's 150-180ish rolls? Something like that.

I was reading about developing B&W—is it different for color then?

were you reading about color film developing or B&W? Back in my day, used fixer had silver in it - actually enough to recover and recoup some of the expenses of developing. None of the developer I used was really friendly with municipal sewer systems.