Yes its funny a lot of people get it done with just the kit lens that comes with the 645D. You know what happens though remember getting the Nikon body with the 18-55 kit lens and look what happens? 6 lenses and over 5 grand later...

coincidentally I have just been reading about the 645D. it has a "crop" medium format not the full size, but it still looks very good for various tasks. I recommend reading this link

http://www.ephotozine.com/article/pentax-645d-canon-eos-1ds-mark-iii-comparison-digital-slr-review-15653

(or google Pentax 645D Canon EOS 1Ds Mark III Comparison)

which is kind of the same as the options you are looking at.

if I was shooting lanscapes I would go for the 645D or a "real" medium format with digi back if that was an option. The 40Mp is vastly more than even the next gen Dslrs and you won't get that dynamic range from a Fx sensor until they go 16bit (by which time pentax will have upgraded)

NSXType-R said:
But the thing is how is the lens selection on the Pentax?

I don't think it's as broad as Nikon's.

agreed

but remember for the type of photography you will be doing, the lenses available should be good enough.

also, do not forget the opposite of crop factor, don't know the name, therefore 50mm is realy fortysomething.

55mm for people

35/24 mm for landscapes ?

and of course they have macro lenses, some 300s too, but I would prefer a Nikon DSLR for the long and fast work.

But the thing is how is the lens selection on the Pentax?

I don't think it's as broad as Nikon's.

yes, I have been looking at the pentax and the price is tempting [smile]

the advantages of the medium format over the D3/4 FX is so great for landscapes, macro and portrait it is the dream camera for that type of photography.

however, you will still need a modern DSLR for the advantages they have. [too many to list] and that is where the nikon comes in.

that pentax is looking mighty tempting though when you consider the prices of the big two.

well it all begins with a dream.

Don't forget there is the 40mp Pentax 645D medium format option as well it's also quite cheap at just 10 grand haha just...I have heard this camera is great though. The question is who would buy this over the D3X or the D4/ D700, D3s refreshes? 40mp medium format so maybe many people would.

A H4D-40 would be nice but with 3 lenes over £20,000. Out of my price range. No, I am not going back to film

As much as i love Nikon

my dream is not for a D4 D400 or D3x

for landscapes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hasselblad of Mamiya medium format

but this is a Nikon forum

This is an old thread

The D3x gets very little mention on this forum
Does any one else use one
My current project is urban landscapes, some of which, (if I am lucky) will be be made into large prints / wall art

I am currently using a D700

LongZoom:

I am curious how your lens testing is coming for the D3x. So far, the only lens that seems about perfect is the Voigtlander APO Lanthar 125 f-2.5. The Nikon 300mm f-4 ED AF-S is ok, but not stellar. Same for the Nikon 70-200mm. I am about to check out the Nikon 14-24mm f-2.8 lens.

What other lenses do you find stellar on the D3x. I don't check this forum that often, so fee free to email me directly at

Thanks,

Michael

hopefully nikon will launch 300/f4 AF-S with VR

Indeed.

Right you are. My point is that the 2.8 VR 300 is, for me at least, too heavy (6.3 lbs) to hike far with, while the 300 F/4 AFS is about half that weight (3.1 lbs), which is heavy enough as it is, plus the D3x, Gitzo, other lenses, bag o' stuff, etc.

There is only 300/2,8 VR today on the market. Hope to see 300/4 VR soon. Nobody knows...

Longzoom:

When you say that the Nikon 300VR passed your D3x test, which version is that, the f/2.8 or the F/4 AFS?

Thanks

Ok. I get it. That is what I was asking. I will keep my 17-35 and sell my 80-400 VR. Thanks for pointing that out.

Appreciated!

Ok. I get it. That is what I was asking. I will keep my 17-35 and sell my 80-400 VR. Thanks for pointing that out.

Appreciated!

OK. I hear you. That is what I wondered. Thanks for pointing that

My 17-35 is very usable, weddings and such. 14-24 is the best lens of this kind in the world, but they are not a substitute to each other. You have to take it into your account! You will need both! Think twice! THX. Dimitri.

I made a typo. I meant FX where I wrote DX. I am considering selling my 17-35 and getting the 14-24. YOu say it is great. I have only an old D1x that is DX, and don't plan to have any more of that size. Yes, I should sell my 80-400 VR. I never use it and when I do, I am not happy with it.

14-24 on DX is no difference to FX - amazing, stunning! On FX the lens reaches its max at 4, on DX - already wide open. No more visible differences, at 14 on DX a bit less distortions, thou. Field-of-view is lesser, of course. No direct comparison to 17-35 was done yet, but on D3x this lens (my copy) clearly shows some softness to the edges, at any F and APERT. And yes, the 70-200 is the best on DX. Unfortunately, not so rosy on FX... My copy of 80-400 was really no good at all, sent back to the store and never seen again. I'll inform you what's my copy of 24-70 looks like, in month or so.

Can you tell me more about the 14-24 on the DX? Have you compared it to the 17-35 2.8 lens? How does the 17-35 do on the D3x?

I don’t have the 300VR because I do very little telephoto work and it is expensive. I do have the 70-200 and have never been as happy with it as everyone else seems to be. I use it for club work, sometimes, but mostly the 50mm 1.4 for that kind of shooting. I am interested in what you find with the 24-70, a lens I don’t have.

I do have the 80-400 VR, but have never liked it. I doubt that it will do well on the D3x. Tell me if you know.

Have you tried the 17-35 f/2.8 Nikon? How does it compare to the 14-24? I am considering selling my 17-35 and getting the 14-24. Anyone have experience with these on the the D3x?

Thanks,

From what I have on hand in macro dep today, Voigt 125 and ZF 50/2 have passed, as well as 14-24 and 300VR. The rest sre waiting, 24-70 on test now. 70-200 is so-so, will keep it for the next pro DX, say, D400, where it will be stunning. Sorry, have never really tried any of your lenses on D3x,(or have very little experience to speak out.) Your idea about new macro site for nuts is very interesting, should attract some experienced people!. After finishing my last project, I will be glad to participate! Good luck!