This thread should be over on

http://nikonrumors.com/forum/topic.php?id=4860&page=16

So, if we are going to hash over all the issues of resolution, ISOs, erc, of the D800 vs whatever.....

Outside the self promotion to drive people to your site...for each of the three topics and multiple other posts... You could actually take the time to copy and paste some thoughts.

You do have some great work - especially the panoramas. I would love to see the difference of your 22mp mammy vs the D800e at low isos for that.

We all know the MFmt systems can out color with 16bits but the 22mp vs 36mp is probably a good test if done right as the price is closer than the Huge Hassys I have seen done.

The 28-300 doesn't cut it for sure. I would think the 60mm vs a 120 on the Mammy would be a better test for sure.

With the right lens I believe it gets you a lot closer than before however, I would have to say no it does not. There is a lot more noise with the D800/D800e than medium format no matter what lens you use. I think the comparison theory is simply someone's wet dream to save $20-40 grand. Just like in the era of film there is no substitute for Medium format period.

Testing a "pro" camera using 28-300 "prosumer" lens, rather than a "pro" prime or a pro mid range zoom seems a bit unrealistic

If you want to see razor sharp images from an 800, try the 100mm macro stopped down to f8. Results from the 24 - 120 f4 and the 70-200f 2.8 are pretty dam good too

While I appreciate everyone's right to their opinion I think the review is, quite frankly, a bit weak. I hope you will take the opportunity to do some side-by-side photo comparisons that are minimally processed to reflect the actual images the cameras are capturing.

If you cannot do the comparisons please send me the Mamiya and assorted lenses and I will let you, and everyone else that reads NR, know how they compare. ;)

You may also wish to review the Hasselblad/D800 comparison which was linked on NR and which serves as a decent, although not empirical, review.

Does Nikon beat Mamiya? Does Bambi meet Godzilla?

Some comparisons and impressions after 1 week shooting the D800e.

http://hatchphotoartistry.blogspot.com/2012/06/is-nikon-d800-really-as-good-as-medium.html

with 1/10mm in focus at f/2.8

On my wishlist...

What would the benefit of having such a large sensor be for video? I mean besides the low light. Would you also get an incredibly shallow DOF too?

As the article states it's 100x more sensitive than a 35 mm full-frame CMOS sensor. So the pixel pitch would be 10x bigger. This is probably about a 10-12 mp chip with a ~60um pitch.

TaoTeJared said:
NASA? I have read that NASA commissions large image sensors for space station, satellites, and the rest. I do know that Canon has made "image capture devices" for them in the past. Not all development is for cameras that ever reach an individual's hands.

Yes there are much bigger imaging sensors in use by the military and NASA (not made by canon though) but this is the biggest CMOS. Interesting to know whether is sensor is actually a bunch of APS-C sensors connected as one? Or maybe each one of those squares is a "full-sized" pixel? Imagine one pixel from this sensor is larger than your camera's entire sensor! ;^)

Man... you know the banding's going to be bad when you can see it on the sensor.

NASA? I have read that NASA commissions large image sensors for space station, satellites, and the rest. I do know that Canon has made "image capture devices" for them in the past. Not all development is for cameras that ever reach an individual's hands.

introduction price of 50,000$ hahah. They are still havent made a a FX full frame that is affordable. I cant imagine another 20 for this to be affordable for mid range photographers

very positive .I see sensors like these in very long future becoming landscapers choice for hell lot of detail .

I hope nikon is doing something in this direction too :)

Yes this could be for the worlds first digital large format camera. I'm sure motion picture studio's would also be interested in this for extreme low light video applications too.

is this the start for consumer grade digital view cameras?

No it's NOT the same sensor. They unveiled a 120 megapixel APS-H last week. They unveiled this sensor yesterday. It's a different sensor that is the worlds largest (physical size) CMOS sensor.

Here's the new 202 x 205mm CMOS next to a "normal" 35mm CMOS! And remember this sensor can shoot video too!

The 120 megapixel sensor canon announced last week is smaller than that 35mm CMOS on the right. If I were RED cameras I'd be very worried.

Niko, old news :) check this link, it's about the same sensor: http://nikonrumors.com/forum/topic.php?id=2456

canon unveiled a 202 x 205 mm CMOS sensor! It also has the ability to record video at 60fps! Last week canon also unveiled a 120 megapixel APS-H sized sensor.

Remember those rumors of canon looking to buy/partner up with a medium format manufacturer like Pentax? And remember the "MX" medium format Nikon rumors?

Hmmm...interesting...

Didn't Nikon make medium format lenses at one point, or do they still make them?

It would be sad if Pentax went away. It would be like the demise of Oldsmobile (sorta).

They would sell if the price was right and Canon has the money to offer

Pete

How does this balance with the reports that Hoya had no intention of selling Pentax?

that's very interesting, as I though that samsung will go for pentax - maybe canon will buy the medium part and samsung the 35mm part