I almost forgot to mention the biggest shortcoming! The AF assist light is horrible, it's worse than not having one, seriously. Don't expect your camera to focus with this in dark :D

I know someone who uses and really likes the YN flashes, although I can't really say that I've been a fan. I can't remember which model I played with (might have been the 560) but it seemed pretty good and fairly reliable.

Personally, my choice for cheap manual power flashes would be the LumoPro stuff- the LP160 and LP120 which are powerful, responsive, reliable, easy to use and very cheap. Alternatively, something like a vivitar 285HV might work- I think the voltage on the newer versions is compatible with modern cameras, but you will have to check.

Of course, if you want TTL flash metering from a 1st part, don't need a lot of power, and you don't intend to ever use flash off camera, you could always just go with an SB400.

Roka13 said:
Hi,I m advancing (I have a D90) and i have decided to invest in a cheap flash. I have come down to the Yongnuo YN-468 II on ebay for $100. does any one have any experience with it, or can recommend anything else good in that price range.

All help greatly appreciated.
-Roka13

I have the YN467 which is essentially the same flash, just has no lcd. I suppose it was 70$ well spent, but for any serious work I wouldn't recommend it. It's just not trustworthy. Sometimes it's going off on it's own and when I need to take the shot it's not working because of that. While iTTL certainly works, it's not very accurate, very often underexposes I don't think a Nikon flash would work this way. (this is not a power output problem, with full manual it's enough for everything) The optical slave mode works well for me, so even after I end up buying an sb700 it will still be useful.

If it doesn't have to have TTL support I would go for the YN560 instead. You'll get more power for less money. The drawback is of course that it's completely manual. Other than that all I can say is that I haven't had any trouble with the Yongnuo brand.

Hi,I m advancing (I have a D90) and i have decided to invest in a cheap flash. I have come down to the Yongnuo YN-468 II on ebay for $100. does any one have any experience with it, or can recommend anything else good in that price range.

All help greatly appreciated.
-Roka13

its called a "bait and switch".. can be very costly if you get screwed. I've read stories that if you are firm with them and make threats for legal action they will drop the fees and leave you alone, but its not worth it.

One of my favorite methods is typing in google the name of the business with s c a and start to spell out scam. usually comes write up, and you can read all about how others got screwed.

good luck! i used to be all about the lowest price but now I go for reputable dealers only with HIGH customer service standards. Sketchy online stores are a gamble every time.. be prepared to lose! there is a reason they charge less than everyone else, and its not because they treat you well.

But were do you get that Iphone, properly works better than the real one ;>)

Pete

NikoDoby said:
Gentoo let's not provide the links to these dumb "Deal" sites. It gives them free ad space here!

Oh crap you're right! I just wanted to emphasize the point but you're absolutely right Niko. I'll edit that actually.

Welcome to the forum, Gabriel. I had a buddy who against my advice bought a D60 from a shady US dealer (no link, Niko—you're welcome). It turned out to be...wait for it...too good to be true. When they called him trying to get him to add upgrades, he refused and they wouldn't send him the camera. Luckily, they did cancel the order without any "restocking fee" (which would have been ludicrous because I'm sure they never took it off the shelf).

No problem Gabriel. I'm not saying you did anything wrong. It's just that your new here and we often get "spammers" joining and disguising their "spam" as "hey guys check this really cheap deal on this website. You think this is a good deal?" etc, etc.

I'm not saying that was your intention but we just have to watch out for it, that's all :^)

Anyway Not sure where you're from but I'd recommend you use Amazon or some other "legit" retailer.

Welcome to the Forum.

NikoDoby said:
Gentoo let's not provide the links to these dumb "Deal" sites. It gives them free ad space here!

You're right. Sure. Thanks.

But hey, this is how I found you guys, so the site was good for something. I'll start looking around here :)

G

Gentoo let's not provide the links to these dumb "Deal" sites. It gives them free ad space here!

If it seems too good to be true, it probably is. Look at what I've found on another site:

A Nikkor 400mm2.8 for 3000 USD??? Even a used one could fetch a good deal more than that.

You can buy a cheap iphone from china too.

That's only for items purchased in the country they were intended to be sold in. Gray market items are imported from out of country by others and the don't have a Nikon warranty. If you want to get it serviced for whatever reason then you have to deal with the company you bought the item from. That's whatever warranty you bought from them not Nikon.

NikoDoby said:
They also list the D700 for 530EUR ($780USD)! Come on man don't fall for this crap!

No chance, eh? Not even in China? Impossible?

GabrielWolff said:
Well, it seems like everything comes with it:
* EN-EL9a Rechargeable Li-ion Battery
* MH-23 Quick Charger
* DK-5 Eyepiece Cap
* DK-24 Rubber Eyecup
* UC-E6 USB Cable
* EG-CP14 Audio Video Cable
* AN-DC3 Camera Strap
* Body Cap
* BS-1 Accessory Shoe Cover
* Software Suite CD-ROM

And 200 EUR (what's that? Like 300 USD?) is quite a lot of money. 40% of the original price...

Did you every hear about anyone having trouble with such sites or with cameras bought in China? Is there's such a thing as a fake Nikon?

And as far as I understood - any Nikon has a Int'l warranty of 3 years? Is that right?

They also list the D700 for 530EUR ($780USD)! Come on man don't fall for this crap!

Well, it seems like everything comes with it:
* EN-EL9a Rechargeable Li-ion Battery
* MH-23 Quick Charger
* DK-5 Eyepiece Cap
* DK-24 Rubber Eyecup
* UC-E6 USB Cable
* EG-CP14 Audio Video Cable
* AN-DC3 Camera Strap
* Body Cap
* BS-1 Accessory Shoe Cover
* Software Suite CD-ROM

And 200 EUR (what's that? Like 300 USD?) is quite a lot of money. 40% of the original price...

Did you every hear about anyone having trouble with such sites or with cameras bought in China? Is there's such a thing as a fake Nikon?

What they don't tell you is that the D5000 your buying doesn't have a battery or a proper warranty and they will try to sell them to you for additional $$$. If you don't want to buy the battery and warranty then they don't have it in stock.

I would stay away from questionable sites. I'd rather pay more for it at a reputable site than to be extremely annoyed that the camera doesn't come in the mail.

I'm about to buy a D5000. I found it for very cheap (aprox. 350EUR) on this website: [Link Removed]
I'm not quite sure the site is trustworthy.

Does anyone know of any fake Nikon cameras?

Would you buy on this site?

G