From my point of view and if I owned the lens several on this post do (which quite parallels what I have) my instinct would be to buy the D7000. The D600 is QUITE a bit more expensive and seems to be headed for the money pit problem. A REPLACEMENT for the D7000 is SOME ways out just based on Nikon NOT running interference on their D600. For what it is worth between a D400 or a D7100 I am going to predict that the D400 will come with a price tag which will INTIMIDATE. I can just see what the Nikon USA site will use for a buyline for the D400. Engineered to Amaze! Priced to Prove You Are Professional!

I know the D7000 just dropped in price but is the price likely to drop going into December or no more drops until replacement comes out? I'm looking to flip a 10-24 towards the d7000 and don't mind waiting a little while.

If you have the money, the D800 is exceptional. However, the FPS is only 4 on the D800 and the D7000 has 6 FPS. And the crop factor of the DX sensor on the D7000 will give you the longer reach for sports.

You are the one who must decide if you want to stay with a cropped sensor, or if you want to go with the FX sensor on the D800. You may wish to shop some of the FX lenses, especially all the "pro" lenses before making a decision. Certainly if your D80 is working, you may wish to hang around the forum and do forum searches, read the posts and see what folks are saying. You can always ask questions on the existing threads and many answers will be given.

The change in format is a big one. So at present, waitng to see what Nikon is going to give us in a high end DX camera may be the best idea.

I am new to the forum and would welcome the advice from some of the experienced members. I have had a D80 for a number of years and am now considering an upgrade but am totally confused. I enjoy landscape, portrait, sports and architecture photography and have the following lenses
ED AF-S Nikkor 70 - 200 1:28G
ED AF-S Nikkor 70-300 1:4.5 - 5.6G
DX  AF-S Nikkor 18 - 135 1:3.5 - 5.6G ED
DX AF-S Nikkor 17 -55 1:2.8G ED
I welcome your suggestions as to what a good value for money upgrade would be:
D800
D600
D7000 or wait for d7100
Thanks to all for your advice

dingding96 said:
Now d7000 has a rebate. After all it was released almost 3 years ago. So I don't know whether I should buy it now or wait for thanksgiving day rebate to buy d7000, d600 or other dslr?

ricochet said:
Quaresma-
The people who truly know aren't talking. At this point the appearance of the D7100 is as much a mystery as the D400, which is much more overdue.

[snip]

Your D7000 won't quit working just because something "better" hits the market. Buy, shoot, enjoy!

+1,000,000

Quaresma-
The people who truly know aren't talking. At this point the appearance of the D7100 is as much a mystery as the D400, which is much more overdue. Something new and wonderful will always be on the horizon, each generation better than the last (in theory). You have to remember this is a "rumor" site. Much of what you read here is speculation. The price on the D7000 is reduced right now and the replacement might not show until Christmas, or a year from now. If the D7k has the features you need, then buy it. There's no guarantee the upgrade will have any improvements that are meaningful to your style of photography anyway. Your D7000 won't quit working just because something "better" hits the market. Buy, shoot, enjoy!

quaresma said:
Hi.

New to this forum.

So I want to upgrade from D5100 to D7000, I know it's the same sensor, but that's ok. I'm impressed with that sensor, I just want the other features like bigger viewfinder, AF motor, heavier, more buttons etc.

But is it stupid to buy it now? I'm thinking about the D7100. Do you know if it's coming soon?

Thanks

Sato said:

I'll just get the D7000 then

the D7000 like the D700 is an excellent camera and will remain so, even if/ when an ew model comes out

Yup, very likely there won't be a D7000 update for this year.

The 18-300 kit sounds very tempting to me as I'm looking for a DSLR that's light enough for me to pack and travel. The wireless option on the D600 is a big plus for me, but the D600 plus a 24-300mm might set me back at least double the cost.. and it's starting to feel it's not worth the extra.

Which to me suggests there won't be a successor for it this year(?)

I'll just get the D7000 then as soon as it hits €750,- (Not far off right now at €779,-)
As a replacement for my D5100 (Which I will keep, A second body seems handy with my preference for prime lenses.)

It will be all the Camera I want+need and nothing more. (At a price that's affordable.)
Anything newer will be twice as expensive and I really don't see it being that much improved.

http://www.canonwatch.com/talking-about-entry-level-full-frame-dslrs-price-tags-hint-nikons-d600-not-as-cheap-as-expected-2800/

There's going to be a D7000 w/ 18-300mm kit coming this October....

No Dx is not going to be phased out

Lets look at the big advantage of Dx cameras and lenses . They are cheaper

DX will continue in the consumers market, were cost is a key buying decision

While cost is a consideration for a professional, image quality is more important

and when it come to IQ, FX camera such as the D800, wins hands down

For that reason I don't think we see a new "professional" DSLR Dx camera

Yes there is a demand for one, but I don't think it is big enough ,for Nikon to bring out a new camera

As Tao has said. We may see Dx mirror-less, advanced compacts and all-in-one systems.

I think they are going to produce a camera that caters for those who need higher fps...looks like D800 and D600 at 5 and 5.5 fps is not what a segment of the market wants and obviously many can not afford to buy the D4, so we will get a camera with lower mega pixels and higher fps...

DaveyJ said:
Obviously many on NR think that Nikon at least for now has abandoned DX in favor of FX appeal of the D600. That I believe (and so do many who check this site) that this would be a big mistake.

Nikon hasn't been quick to replace anything. Even though the general opinion of the Nikon 1 is close but not good enough Nikon is slow to add lenses.

Nikon has released a lot of DX only macros. At the very least they're still interested.

I'd be really nervous if I were an Olympus DSLR user, though. :D

TaoTeJared said:
At a 30,000 foot level, I see camera companies moving towards FX (over next 10-12 years) for advanced consumer/amateur level as they make more money per unit, and more money for accessories & lenses for those systems. I think DX (or similar size) will find a home in consumer range of DSLRs as well as mirror-less, advanced compacts and all-in-one systems. Again that is over 3-8 generations of systems.

Yup! True, true.

At any rate, the D600 price has not been confirmed yet. I think the picture will clear even more once we get that last bit of info.

DaveyJ said:
Obviously many on NR think that Nikon at least for now has abandoned DX in favor of FX appeal of the D600. That I believe (and so do many who check this site) that this would be a big mistake.

Out of the those of us who really spend too much time thinking about this stuff, I don't see many that are stating that at all.

At a 30,000 foot level, I see camera companies moving towards FX (over next 10-12 years) for advanced consumer/amateur level as they make more money per unit, and more money for accessories & lenses for those systems. I think DX (or similar size) will find a home in consumer range of DSLRs as well as mirror-less, advanced compacts and all-in-one systems. Again that is over 3-8 generations of systems.

I don't see any system being dropped for 2 of the most important reasons; 1) Competitor's offerings(Canon, Sony, Pentax) & 2) Consumer price spans.

D600 is a new system. D7000 system will remain for now and maybe a D400 moving further to a pro level (not sure what that would look like though.) The D300 was $2,000 when it was released - most skip over that fact. $500 more than the D600.

The DX systems that I think will see big changes with are the consumer lines (3200/5200) as the lines continue to be blurred on what smaller sized systems can do. I think all the big players don't know what to do about those yet. If you look at the cheap $300-500 m4/3 cameras that basically have the same features, I think that is where the market demand is moving towards.

PB PM said:
The D600 is not going to be a D7000 replacement, totally different price point. What we might see is a a continuation of the merging of the D90/D7000 line with the D300/D300s line.

Expected Nikon line-up:

FX:
D4 -- pro (action/sports)
D800/E -- pro (events/landscape/portaits)
D600 -- advanced/semi-pro market

DX:

Scenario 1
D400 -- semi-pro/pro
D7200 -- advanced/semi-pro
D5200 -- mid-level
D3200 -- beginner

Scenario 2
D400 -- semi-pro/pro
D5200 -- mid-level/advanced
D3200 -- beginner

I agree that from just a price based viewpoint, it's hard to imagine the D600 replacing the D7000 but market-wise, I think Nikon will market the D600 to the same segment they marketed the D7000 to. Otherwise, we'll end up with two Nikon cameras targeting the same group.

And to speculate a little more I think we'll see the D5xxx series stepping up a little bit to fill some of the gap left by the D7000.

The D600 is not going to be a D7000 replacement, totally different price point. What we might see is a a continuation of the merging of the D90/D7000 line with the D300/D300s line.

DaveyJ said:
Obviously many on NR think that Nikon at least for now has abandoned DX in favor of FX appeal of the D600. That I believe (and so do many who check this site) that this would be a big mistake.

Just to be clear, I don't think Nikon has abandoned DX. Just because I think D600 is replacing the D7000 does not mean I think DX is done. D7000 is not the whole Nikon DX lineup.

Consider if the D7xxx line is cancelled, we'll still have D3xxx and D5xxx lines AND hopefully D400 sometime soon (maybe either end of this year or early next year). This should be plenty for DX right there.

Maybe DX will be eventually abandoned but I honestly don't see that happening any time in the near future.

Obviously many on NR think that Nikon at least for now has abandoned DX in favor of FX appeal of the D600. That I believe (and so do many who check this site) that this would be a big mistake.

sevencrossing said:
it might actually be called the D600 :)

me thinks too :)

unchecked said:
anyone else the d7000 replacement will actually be a d6000 that's a mix of the d5100 and d7000?

your are warm, it might actually be called the D600 :)

unchecked said:
anyone else the d7000 replacement will actually be a d6000 that's a mix of the d5100 and d7000?

Doubt it. Some already feel the D7000 isn't sufficient as the top DX body...doubt they would dumb it down more.

anyone else the d7000 replacement will actually be a d6000 that's a mix of the d5100 and d7000?