studio460 said:
Okay, DUH! Now I see that Sony started introducing full-frame D-SLRs way back in 2008. Where have I been? I thought Sony announced they were discontinuing Maxuum-mount, Alpha cameras?

??? The Sony Alpha mount is Minolta's old AF mount. Sony bought Minolta from Konica and just renamed the mount to "Alpha". You can mount old Minolta AF lenses to newer Sony cameras and new Sony lenses to older Minolta cameras.
The mount had actually been know as the Minolta Alpha mount or just A-mount. Sony just renamed it just Alpha and used the alpha symbol as their brand.

I hear the 5D Mark III will be released before the Nikon D700 refresh now. This should be an interesting release for everyone. Canon might fix all that in camera picture developement such as noise reduction, saturation and contrast. I always thought there was too much in camera developement going on. They might even fix the auto focus as well although I think its a lot better than what people say. The 5D Mark III, 1Ds Mark IV and new Sony 30+mp cameras will be huge determining factors for Nikon and their next FX release as far as specs and release dates.

Either way I can guarantee that the 1Ds mark IV will not be a superb solution to ISO noise. Many still think that the surprise sensor will show up in the D700x or D700 replacement. I'm positive the D4 will not come out until at least Feb 2011...

Any idea what size imager this is supposed to be in? I don't care if Sony makes a 100MP imager--if they keep to their 4/3rds imager form factor, it's still a 2.0x crop factor for us. The form factor we need is DX- or above. When it comes to crop-factor, light-gathering capability, and low-noise images, size DOES matter!

Okay, DUH! Now I see that Sony started introducing full-frame D-SLRs way back in 2008. Where have I been? I thought Sony announced they were discontinuing Maxuum-mount, Alpha cameras? The A900 and A850 are still on B+H's site.

I recently received this link to a photo taken at 1474 megapixels !!!
http://gigapan.org/viewGigapanFullscreen.php?auth=033ef14483ee899496648c2b4b06233c
Definitely the technology does exist.

Ask admin, he paid 800$ for a 400$ Panasonic Lumix LX3 with this red dot on it.

NikoDoby said:
There is that red dot on the front of it too. That dot alone is worth at least $20,000USD :^)

Hah, so true! :^D

We will just have to wait and see

Pete

Well Sony has the "same" a900 sensor in the much more expensive D3X so...

There is more to the $30,000USD price of an S2 than just the sensor. There is that red dot on the front of it too. That dot alone is worth at least $20,000USD :^)

NikoDoby said:
It has been vaporware for Pentax for several years now. I guess we'll know in a few weeks time. I hope they've worked on the body design just as much as the sensor. The mock-ups I've seen seem kinda clumsy.

I wonder if this Pentax will use the same Kodak sensor (KAF-37500) as the Leica S2? Wouldn't that be something!

I hope that it would handle like the Film 645, it was not that bad to shot with. Yes the KAF-37500 sensor would sure make it a great camera, but could that be done in the D3X price area

Pete

It has been vaporware for Pentax for several years now. I guess we'll know in a few weeks time. I hope they've worked on the body design just as much as the sensor. The mock-ups I've seen seem kinda clumsy.

I wonder if this Pentax will use the same Kodak sensor (KAF-37500) as the Leica S2? Wouldn't that be something!

Yes I know, just thought it would fit in, actual I used a 645 Pentax before not a bad camera actually, Do you think it will happen this time, they have rumored this camera the last few years with a few extra MP every year

Pete

You're late Pete. I already mentioned the 30+ mp medium format Pentax 645D

http://nikonrumors.com/forum/topic.php?id=765&page=2#post-22393

Rumored to be announced at PMA2010.

Actually I don't really care if Sony has that new sensor or not. But what if Pentax finally gets that 645 Digital on the Market, rumored to be sold for app the same cost as a Nikon D3X, wow their are some sweet Pentax Med Format primes to be bought

Pete

Ups forgot this is a Nikon Forum,

Anybody see the post out there on ByThom.com about Sony slipping from the number 3 spot? Crazy stuff. They must be loosing a crap load on their camera division (its touch competing on price).

Considering the D3x sensor is based off of a Sony chip (right?) then I could see this new Sony chip being engineered by Nikon for a release this December or something. D3Xs.

My Nikon PMA prediction is the D700 replacement. D700s. D3s sensor in a D700 body with video capabilities. And I'd love to see some new lenses, like an updated 85mm f/1.4 and an updated 200mm f/4 macro lens.

Hmm, 30MP. Those will be huge files, then again I can fit 4x2TB drives in my tower, so that should be fine. ;)

jonnyapple said:
That's true, mb, but it may be even less cost effective than the way they do it now as I think they'd need to invest in some new fab facilities with all the extra overhead that brings.

If Canon can do it I suppose Nikon can too, then again it does require some serous feasibility study so I am most likely wrong.

That's true, mb, but it may be even less cost effective than the way they do it now as I think they'd need to invest in some new fab facilities with all the extra overhead that brings.

jonnyapple said:
I'll bet people who've tried the Nikon D3x and the Sony A900 would argue that Nikon is designing their own sensors even if they're not manufacturing them. It's a subtle difference, and I guess if anyone thinks there's no difference they can just abandon ship like the traitorous OP is suggesting.

There is more then an obvious difference do not get me wrong, Nikon has the line for finishing sensors by adding micro lens, Bayer CFA and packaging so they are far from being the same as Sony.
My point is they could be able to put out new and better sensors on the market sooner without the constraints agreement with Sony brings.

mb said:
And people ask why Nikon should develop his own sensors.

I'll bet people who've tried the Nikon D3x and the Sony A900 would argue that Nikon is designing their own sensors even if they're not manufacturing them. It's a subtle difference, and I guess if anyone thinks there's no difference they can just abandon ship like the traitorous OP is suggesting.

shivaswrath said:
what's remarkable is if it is real, we'll be exceeding resolution of film for the first time in a non-medium format body. . .sweet!

Actually, shivas, the canon 7D has higher resolution than a 32MP FF sensor would. It's 18MP with a 1.6x crop. That works out to a density that would give you 18MP*(1.6^2) = 46MP on FF. I don't think physical sensor resolution is the whole story, though.

If true this means we will have Nikon 30+ Mpix D4 by the end of this year.
And it will be 3 months later then Sony and 3 times more expensive using the same sensor.
And people ask why Nikon should develop his own sensors.

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