You'd probably be happier with a tethered tablet with software that allows you to operate the camera controls. I'd hardly be surprised if that was already available.

NSXType-R said:
Just curious, would anyone want a Nikon DSLR with a touchscreen? Perhaps for focus point selection or for menus? Maybe they could put a multi-selector and a touchscreen and get the best of both worlds.

Don't know about *want* - my gut says it would be too small to use accurately and/or too slow to use except in a studio set up situation.

I'm open to being convinced otherwise as it might just be a case of what you know best is what you want but at this point in time I'd have to say no.

Just curious, would anyone want a Nikon DSLR with a touchscreen? Perhaps for focus point selection or for menus? Maybe they could put a multi-selector and a touchscreen and get the best of both worlds.

My Best guess is $6200 for the D4.

This talk about the 9 cross sensors up-to f/8, I think what's missing is the specs on the other cross-type sensors that will be operational up-to f/2.8 and f/5.6. I'm sure there will be a slew of these cross-type sensors. We really don't need more than 51 total AF points, but if Nikon can improve upon the industry's best AF system by adding even more cross-type sensors, it will be a winner and all we really need.

Native ISO of 102,400? Oh. Em. Gee. If 102,400 is as clean as ISO 25,600 on the D3s, I'll be amazed. I know that's a 2 stop improvement, but Nikon is increasing native ISO by 3 full stops! I can't see them making that big of a jump in NATIVE ISO if they weren't able to achieve at least 1.5-2 stops over the D3s. Who knows, maybe they were able to increase SnR by a full 3 stops? My other question is DR. I'm preparing for at LEAST 14EV of DR in the D4, maybe even 14.5EV. 16bit RAW would be nice, too. :)

I'm all in for a D4. I know I'll have my hands on one at some point in the near future - exactly when, remains to be seen. I'm hoping for a early January announcement with the first shipments in early to mid March. Let's see what happens!

Hi,

The D4 isn't for me because of the weight. I'm already in for a D800.

I am supposing that it will be in... Soon.

My best,

Mike

I found myself shooting a ice skating rehearsal today on a D700 and couldn't but dream of having a camera where I could shoot 11 fps at ISO 25600 and get clean noise free pictures..

The devil is in the details but I think a D4 is going under my Easter bush.. :)

Mike: Of course, I don't know. But I will guess the D4 price will be closer to $6,000 than to $8,000. It seems like the D4 will be more of a D3s replacement than a D3x replacement (look at those high ISO numbers suggesting an effort to produce even cleaner higher ISO images than the D3s thus making the D4 a desirable successor to the D3s for pros shooting sports). Assuming the D800 does have a 36 megapixel sensor (or a D900 version has such a sensor), Nikon may tweak that high megapixel FX sensor for a D4x version of the D4 and charge $8,000 for that version. Let's hope so. I don't think there is much hope for a D4 price under $5,000 so I would guess around 6 grand.

Hi all,

I know that is awfully premature, but does anyone have a guess as to the D4's initial price? Similar to D3x? Is that the thinking?

It doesn't seem to have _a lot_ of new technology (at first blush). I don't know what the R&D costs Nikon is asking folks to pony up for; IOW, it seems to offer a mild upgrade for some needed video enhancements (and my hats off to Nikon for that, but it is a bit late, so fair warning, you better get it {all of it} right this time) I'm not sure that the camera is really going to demand the big bucks.

This is coming from the King of the fanboys, so from a pure marketing strategy, Nikon should look at perhaps putting this camera out at a bargain price to shore up some sore points from some bad blood made by perceived missed promises over the last year or two.

My best,

Mike

Here's what I know about the D4, and I have this on unimpeachable inside information...I CAN'T AFFORD IT!

Why not? It makes sense, with teleconverter use with the exotic primes you can easily get an F8 aperture.

The f8 autofocus sensor makes me feel this is a little fake- Nikon doesn't usually address this although Canon usually does, and the big uproar (so to speak) about the 1dX is that is no longer has f8 sensors.

WooHoo! Finally have real D4 specs to discuss:
16.2 MP
11 fps
100-102,400 native ISO range, expandable to 50 and 204,800
CF + XQD memory card slots! That's right, the Nikon D4 will have the new Compact Flash XQD memory card slot.
Compatible with the new Nikon WT-5 wireless transmitter
Integrated Ethernet in the camera
Face detection/recognition function that will be working in the viewfinder (maybe some type of a hybrid viewfinder? Nikon had several related patents)
Improved video, I have no other details on that but my guess is 1080p/30/25/24 and 720p/60/30/25/24 similar to the Nikon D800
Uncompressed video out through the HDMI port
Ability to assign the two buttons on the front of the camera to smooth aperture control during video recording
Improved 51 AF points
AF detection range will go down to EV-2.0 (the D3s went to EV -1)
Autofocus system: 9 cross-type sensors that are operational up to f/8

So a little disappointed about no "built in WiFi" transfer gadget...
Excited about the AF update.
Quizzical about the lack of dual CF...CF+Xqd or whatever is odd...

Thoughts?

Maybe they will do a free d4 giveaway to those that cant afford one=)

Dang I just realized I should have waited until tomorrow for April fools :(

Ok back on topic...I don't know anything about the D4 and most likely won't be able to ever afford one.

ya tcole, if you go to any post with comments before the joined date no d4 comment=)
~Cheers

tcole1983: here is one, there are others.

Its coming!!

JK...haha got you donaldejose!

Sorry I couldn't resist...I haven't seen a post by you that didn't have the words "the D4" in it.

Seefx and Studio460 YOU ARE BOTH WRONG because you are BOTH way off topic. There is NO NEED to use harsh language in your little tug of war. This is not the place for it. Email each other if you want to continue your shoving match but enough is enough.

I've deleted most of your "discussion" and if either one of you post again in this thread it better be about Denisa's "D4" rendering.

Email me if you have any questions

shivaswrath said:
Denisa - seriously slick renderings, would be cool if the D4 actually does ergonomically change. . .I doubt it, given how Nikon's pretty conservative and hasn't change their body design THAT drastically since the F5, lol!

Yes, I couldn't agree more, Denisa! Your work is really, really impressive! People with your talent make upwards of $300,000 a year in Hollywood!

Denisa - seriously slick renderings, would be cool if the D4 actually does ergonomically change. . .I doubt it, given how Nikon's pretty conservative and hasn't change their body design THAT drastically since the F5, lol!

Studio/SeeFX - awesome and enlightening debate! I'm inclined to believe Studio though simply because he's posted work on here, discussed other issues, and doesn't seem like a proverbial internet troll. Regardless, I know nothing about video equip and have enjoyed the fruitful discussions. . .

yeah it's rendered just like i ve said before. a little dusty made it perfect.

and Denisa, the texture of the body is looping, it would be more perfect if you made it random.

The only issue I have with that is switch the position. I know the mounting screw on the MB-D10 is in about the same place and it gets in the way of gripping the camera in vertical use if you have big hands.

Denisa said:
NikoDoby: OFF +1 +2 suppose to be the ND filter :) I think it will be nice to shoot some movie without mattebox and rig.

Great idea, Denisa! I hope Nikon is taking notes! Yes, an internal ND filter would make daylight exterior shooting much easier with a D-SLR. Again, incredible work, Denisa!

NikoDoby: OFF +1 +2 suppose to be the ND filter :) I think it will be nice to shoot some movie without mattebox and rig.

studio460: thanks, yes there's no limitation in imagination. Everything is possible.

Denisa said:
My creation of the image of (non-existent) Nikon D4 is a study for a product visualization on my portfolio. Personally, I am a Nikon fan and own Nikon D3s, so I tried to achieve visuals of Nikon's new camera based on what I knew and liked about their latest products.

Awesome work! So, you were able to deliberately introduce "dust" and "fingerprints" into your render?