Before I drop another dime for another Nikon DSLR, I need what the Canon 5d Mark II does with the same price, Hell even Sony has 25 mega pixel camera for 1/3 the price of the D3x. Please Nikon read my post and give the Pros what they need to keep me using my awesome lens a Friggen totally Awesome next generation of Nikon DSLR, 20 megapixel with 1080p video

Ok, I need to read dates.

I'm not use to old threads being encouraged to be bumped.

Hey now "Goldilocks"! Perhaps it's time to change your membership title again... hmm what else goes with "Gold"? :^)

Anyway yeah I'd wait for the D300S replacement.

You are, as usual, right about that, Rob. I have to say that it makes no sense to me the right way, though, having taken classes in linear algebra. Who indexes a matrix (column, row) instead of (row, column)? [Echo answers]

Niko, sometimes I wonder whether you're insane. At times like these, I don't even wonder.

jonnyapple said:
No, 1080i means it's 1080x1920 but each frame only has info from half the vertical (1080/2=540) lines. Okay, that's not technically true but it's a simple way to think about it. 720p means you have complete 720x1280 frames every frame.

I believe you mean 1920x1080 (Full HD), and 1280x720, but you do have your facts right about 1080i being interpolated. ;-) You'd have some strange resolution (tall) using the numbers in the order you gave.

My friend's mom's sister's neighbor thinks you're cute Jonny and likes how you're always talking about big numbers and formulas and smart things like that. He wants to know if you're available this Saturday night? :^P

No, 1080i means it's 1080x1920 but each frame only has info from half the vertical (1080/2=540) lines. Okay, that's not technically true but it's a simple way to think about it. 720p means you have complete 720x1280 frames every frame.

1080i is equivalent to 720p, no?

Williamstown, really? Why Williamstown? Do we have an Eph alum on the boards now?

My friend's mom use to date the pro your friend saw and according to her the camera was just a D70S :^)

A friend told me he saw some pro using a D90s at a class reunion in Williamstown, MA 2 weeks ago. I had just told him that Nikon has no 1080 i HD DSLR's and he told me that this other pro was using what looked like a D90S logo and was told it was new and shot 1080i HD.
I told him it had to be a prototype as they list no9 such camera.
Recently with the price drop on the D90, I believe he has to be right.No other Nikon has been lowered so drastically lately.
I would have expected the D300 to go the wayside first if 1080i was coming into play. Too bad Nikon is not making an affordable 14 0r 18 megapixel DSL:R before 1080i.
After all it is mainly for still photography and Nikon is behind the 8 ball.

I went to the D300s from D60 and am SO thankful I was "forced" to upgrade when I scratched my D60 focusing screen. Oops. (Swear all I used was the brush and whoosh-scratch!)

I have been drooling for a year following every possible D700 upgrade concept. Was my plan--still want FX, but now am looking at glass (24-70mm awesome!)

Like others said--you will miss out if all you ever do is wonder about "what is next!"

Almost waited too long and have got tremendous images even with crummy weather!

Cheer!

DrMarm

I'd drop the 18-55 from your list, as it doesn't really add anything over the 18-105.

So I think I have decided on what lenses to get... this is what my shopping basket looks like :)-

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-55mm f3.5-5.6G VR

Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 35mm f1.8G

Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-105mm f3.5-5.6G ED VR

All you experts out there, is there any of these you don't think I would use? thanks

nikyvee said: and am now waiting for delivery of a Nikon 70-300 VR 2.8. I know, lots of money--$2,350 USD.

Uh, Nikon doesn't make an f/2.8 zoom that reaches 300mm, and if they did it would cost at least twice that (see the 300mm f/2.8 prime lens). I'm guessing you bought the 70-200 f/2.8 zoom. I hope they reimburse shipping as well when you return it!

http://www.cameras.net.au is probably the best one with full Australian warranty. However, I would seriously consider DWI a grey importer,www.dwidigitalcameras.com.au you would save 30%

Did any aussies know where the best priced D90 here is?I really want to get one here with good warranty etc. Was kinda hoping someone could direct me to a good price (fingers crossed)

Although the best all rounder is probably the Nikon 18-200mm the Nikkor 135mm f/2d is a beautiful lens and you couldn't get a better one for night shooting

There are several 70-700 nikkors. The Vr version is the only version to get. the others are .... not good.

nickv - as for long lenses, You will realize sooner than later, that even OS will not make Your photos better or Your life easier, 500mm is 500mm = at some point You really need additional support. You wrote that Bigma disappointed You because of it's weight and lack of OS - in reality it's one of the most compact lenses with 500mm tag on them (apart from reflex lenses);
as for 70-300 can't wait to see pictures of Your new lens, didn't even know that there is one like that in the nikon lineup :D - I guess You got the 70-300vr f4.5-5.6

As a new D90 owner, as of this past Christmas, I have been eagerly following this thread on lenses for the D90. Since Bella indicated that the main interest is portraits, there has been really no discussion about longer range lenses/telezooms. With my D90 and the 18-105 kit lens, it took only ONE trip to the San Diego Zoo for me to realize that I needed and WANTED a much longer lens. I did spend only $165 and got a very inexpensive Tamron zoom from 70-300mm. It has worked fine, for what I paid for it.

However, another trip to the Zoo and I learned that I WANTED MORE range, so have since tried the Sigma "Bigma" 50-500mm (I was disappointed with the weight and lack of OS), a Tokina 80-400 (disappointed with the lack of sharpness), and am now waiting for delivery of a Nikon 70-300 VR 2.8. I know, lots of money--$2,350 USD. I hope that gives me what I want as with my D90/DX body, it should be about 450mm on the long end, given the crop factor. I really appreciate the companies willingness to sell a lens on a "tryout" basis. I feel much more comfortable buying a lens, knowing that I can send it back if I don't like it.
Luv my D90,
NickV

I do not agree with most of the posts on this topic but hey in the end you will do what you want. The 50 and 35mm primes are cheap, great quality and superior so therefore a safe purchase you won't regret however, I don't see a large enough difference between the 16-85 and the 18-200 to warrant getting the 16-85 and losing out on the extra 100-200mm. I have used both in addition to the 18-105, 18-55, 55-200, 70-300, 24-120, and the 18-120 VR. I simply try them for months then trade them in the camera district where I live. Lets keep in mind these zoom lenses are not intended for serious work just a simple do everything lens perfect for someone just getting into photography or returning after years away. Each and every lens here is a jack of all trades and not great at one thing.

NSXType-R said:
Quoting Chase Jarvis and probably many other photographers, "the best camera's the one that you have on you."

Cute, but what should Nikon do next? Go to 100 years sleep?

You say you have 1600 AUD budget for the lens, but how much are you wiling to spend on the camera? I will assume that you have around 2000$ for the set, so here is my recommendation:
D90 + 18-105VR + 70-300VR kit is around 2000$ and you will need two NC and one CPL filter to go. If you have some money left go for monopod, an irreplaceable photography aid. More? Go for SB-600.
EDIT: do not forget a nice LowePro bag

I wouldn't go with an all rounder... this kind of kit lens will do a lot but all it will do will mostly be inferior to what you could get with some specialized lens.. no need to go for a fish eye here or some crazy lens that you can never use.. but I suggest you find what you want to do most and buy a lens that do that well..

You could start with a 50mm f/1.8 this is cheap and would cover portraits very well.

You say you want to use it for "mostly" indoor/outdoor and still/moving subject... that's about everything that exists.. if your boys are your priority, you can use the cheap 50mm f/1.8 for portraits when they are not too close and don't move too fast... Then you could add a 35mm f/1.8 for indoors + normal focal lenght... and a 16-85 would be your more versatile lens...

personally I'd complete the 35mm + 50mm set with a 10-24 ultra wide angle (or tokina 11-16) for your wide angle needs (small rooms, fun effects inside, landscape, etc..) and a 70-200 f/2.8 for outdoors, sports, etc.. That would be more expensive than your current budget.. but you could start off with the 35 + 50 primes and then build your kit based on your needs as your boys grow up..

Also, I believe that person who suggested you the 135mm made a quite interesting suggestion as this lens, even if it's far from being versatile, would get awesome portraits...

PB PM said:
Unless it doesn't work. ;)

LOL