Nikon D3400 to come with an improved “Guide Mode”

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A quick update on the upcoming Nikon D3300 camera replacement - the new model will be called D3400 and will have a new 24.2MP sensor, Snapbridge connectivity and an improved "Guide Mode". Expect the official announcement in the next few weeks before the Photokina show in September.

It remains a mystery why Nikon skipped the D5400 and not the D3400 model name.

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  • Fly Moon

    Would be a good time to add iOS for snapbridge. I want to use it with my D500

    • Charles

      They will…. now back to the D3400

      • Fly Moon

        Hey “Comment-Cop”,
        The comment was related to D3400!! I did’t have to mention D3400 specifically, did I?

        • Actually, you do. Off topic is off topic. Comment judge rules in favor of the plaintiff…

          • Nyarlathotep

            Your honor, I move to restate the question on behalf of the defendant, “Would be a good time to add iOS for snapbridge. I want to use it with somebody’s D3400”

            • Too late, gavel was banged…

          • BVS

            But iOS support is much more important in a consumer camera like D3400 than in D500. This could make or break sales.

            • Agreed, so iOS support only for D3x00 and D5x00 series, not D500.

            • Nyarlathotep

              I have to imagine the iOS support isn’t really dependent on the camera so much. There may be some minor changes necessary to the firmware. It seems likely Nikon screwed up on developing the iOS app. If and when they get the damn app working, it should support any and all Snapbridge enabled Nikons.

            • El Aura

              I think it was Thom Hogan who reported that the hangup with the iOS app is that iOS doesn’t allow for third-party apps to control WiFi settings and/or similarly that NFC cannot be used to control WiFi setting. This makes connecting the phone with the camera something requiring more user interaction and breaks the goal of seamless image transfer.

            • Nyarlathotep

              Of course Nikon didn’t vet this before hand… Good job. As always, great hardware and optical engineers. Software… not so much.

            • Well, frankly, apps shouldn’t be able to screw with your network settings, it’s a huge security hole. If Nikon can’t figure out how to do connectivity they should outsource to someone who can.

            • AlphaT

              In D7200, NFC is used to setup the mobile device’s wifi settings. I don’t think that’s the problem.
              I believe the problem is with setting up the low-power bluetooth, as it’s the one that’s “always on” moving data even if the camera is off.

            • Apple consultation.

            • My firmware update for D500 allows me to bluetooth connect to iOS, instead of wireless. Wireless was a non go with Apple protocols.

  • Peter

    Very strange indeed.

  • fanboy fagz

    New 24mp sensor. Seems suspicious every camera has a new 24mp sensor. A new 24mp for a entry level camera.. Seems a new sensor would pass the budget for making the whole camera

    Im more inclined to think newly tweaked than completely new

    • C_QQ_C

      >>Seems suspicious every camera has a new 24mp sensor<<
      Not really, the D500 has a 21mp sensor ..

      • Now that can be called ” completely new”.

      • fanboy fagz

        you are perceptive. But notice how many 24mp there are? All dx cameras besides the d500 and those before them.

        • Spy Black

          I don’t think they can legally make that comment without it being true.

    • SimenO

      I guess its the same piece of silicon, but with tweaks in the color filter composition and software tweaks like higher digital amplification (higher ISO).

      And of course some non sensor improvements.

      • fanboy fagz

        Yea sounds about right. Same same just a bit different.

      • C_QQ_C

        Then there are no totally new sensors, there all made of plain sand .. 🙂

    • BlueBomberTurbo

      Doesn’t mean it’s brand new. Could be the D5500 or D7100/7200 sensor, just a revision of the D3300 sensor, or even the Sony A6000’s sensor.

      • fanboy fagz

        Yep. I dont believe its new. Just a tweaked current. Just revision 1.1 or later.

      • Andrew

        Why not, at some point Nikon has to update their sensor technology. It looks as if they have reached their limit on megapixel and any increase would degrade ISO performance and besides, 24.2 MP is amply sufficient for a crop sensor.

    • David Peterson

      I’m perfectly happy if the megapixel wars end now! And they make some amazing new 24 megapixel sensors from the group up.

      Heck, a few new APS-C 16 megapixel sensors with 2017 technology would be very interesting!

      The new 21 megapixel sensor in the D500 will hopefully show up in the D5600!! 😀

      • HD10

        I concur as 16 to 21mp would be the sweet spot for the currently available lens for Nikon DX.

        • Eric Calabros

          Difference between 21 and 24.2 is less than 400 pixels in horizontal line.

          • HD10

            Every bit helps. The jump from 16mp to 24mp in DX sensor seems to be like a bridge too far for many of the Nikkor DX lenses.

            • Captain Megaton

              To be honest the resolution difference on DX between 16 and 24 is of very little practical importance. I’m currently at 24, having moved from 16, and would happily go back to 20-21 for more DR at, say, moderate ISOs.

      • fanboy fagz

        20mp is fine for me. There isnt a mp war since theyre all with 24mp. But sure, tweak the current one to be better in low light abd remove the filter from the sensor and lets get shooting

      • PhilK

        To some extent they are limited to the sensors available to them.

        Sensor makers like Sony, like most manufacturers of mass-market electronic components, are going to prioritize production of products that are most popular and which will make them a better return on investment.

        So since 24MP sensor production has now reached the point where it can be done relatively cheaply (as well as the required peripherals like image-processing chips and storage media), the sensor-makers are going to prioritize such models in their production runs and APS-C product lines.

        Ergo, a company like Nikon will end up using them in mass-market models, if only because the price/performance is optimal at that moment and customers are asking for them more often.

        For “enthusiast” products like the D500, there is less economic pressure on Nikon to follow that same mass-market trend. (In part because the retail price of the D500 makes it less sensitive to component prices)

    • CaMeRa QuEsT

      The D3200 sported a new and unique to it 24MP sensor, the D3300 came to market with an altogether different sensor that was first used in the D5300 and then the D5500, I wouldn’t be surprised to see yet another new silicon in keeping with past Nikon custom, but the only one out there that is currently new and substantially different from the above is the one used on the A6300 and X-PRO2/X-T2 which is 4K capable and thus very unlikely to be used in a D3300 replacement unless Nikon wants to leapfrog everybody else into the bottom market DSLR 4K game, so I believe that if there is anything new in the sensor it will be the filter array to reflect the changes made in the D5/D500/EXPEED 5 color implementation.

      • Eric Calabros

        admin said its not 4k cam. so either its not that new sensor, or its 4k disabled as XPro2.

        • chrisgull

          Or 4K was not added as a feature for product reasons.

        • AlphaT

          I agree. The improved 4K video will be reserved to the D5x00 camera, as that’s the target user for that line.

    • rosestraf

      That new 24mp is like Canon’s New 18mp…I think there is a song about it…Everything Old is New Again.

  • Martin K

    What about d750 and d810 replacement?? Any hint?? Thanks!!

    • No, I think it is too early for those models to be replaced.

      • Martin K

        ohhh =(
        Thanks for the fast answer!

      • Bryan Szucs

        Is the D610 replacement going to be announced for photokina then?

        • Eledeuh

          Don’t you think there’s quite a bit of an overlap between the D610 and D750 ?

          Price is not a reliable indicator, and if we consider their feature-set and target demographic it’s doubtful you’ll ever see a D620, maybe you’ll see a D630… in the form of a D760.

          • Eric Calabros

            They could elevate D760 to D810 body and controls level, and put the D650 in D750 position.

            • Eledeuh

              And… just have a D820 for the higher MP count ? Wouldn’t that make a Canon 5D line lookalike ? Like the 5DSR vs. 5Dmk4 ?

              That wouldn’t help the D760 price tag, and I’m not sure of how effective the current 5D line is for Canon.

            • Bryan Szucs

              This is an interesting conversation, you’re right in that they do have to think about marketing and proving so that the canera lines do t bump into each other.

              What if they made the FF cameras like this?

              D6XX 24mp 51 AF points (basically a newish D750)

              D7XX 36mp AF from D5

              D8XX 50-70 mp AF from D5

              I’m sure I’m wrong as I’m not any kind of a camera manufacturer but just like to spark up some conversation on the topic:)

            • BVS

              D820 needs to compete with 5D4 though. If the leaked specs are true, 5D4 will be 30mp and 9FPS. If D820 goes 50-70mp it’ll kill the FPS. I wouldn’t be surprised if D820 stays at 36mp (or maybe moves to 42mp like A7RII) and Nikon increases the FPS a bit and adds D5 AF (like you said).

              I feel like 50-70mp would be a different camera, e.g. D820X or D5X.

            • Bryan Szucs

              I have to agree with what you said BVS…42mp Sony sensor would be a good possible choice. I’m not a megapixel freak myself, I think the 24mp sensor is astounding, I’m more interested in AF performance and features:)

            • Davo

              Agree. Since there’s actually not much in it between the D810’s 36MP and A7rII’s 42MP sensor, the question is which has better yields and would cost less to produce. And since the Nikon treatment has already been done on the 36MP sensor as well as some reports of lower yields on the 42mp sensor, I think sticking with a tweaked 36MP sensor might be better.
              The lesser MP count might also mean an extra FPS or so with current bandwidth capabilities.

            • Davo

              So the 5D4 is the ‘true’ replacement of the D700 lol.
              Split the D810 replacement into twins:
              D850h and D850x
              The h gets higher fps with the 36mp or less mp sensor and the x gets a 50+ mp sensor but lower fps.
              Both inherit the D5 AF.

            • Max

              and give it 1/6000 ss

          • PhilK

            Of course there’s an overlap: the D750 is basically a D610 with a better AF module and a tilting display. 😉

          • AlphaT

            Yes, they might kill the D6x0 line for it’s bad rep.
            And it’s possible they might rethink the D7x00 as the line for users who wants a cheap FX camera.

        • TylerChappell

          The D750 was the D610 replacement.

    • rosestraf

      Uncle Tony believes…that the Nikon D810 will be replaced early next year. 70-80 MP.

      • Greg

        hopefully uncle tony is right. that would be really nice news and might shake the digital camera scene as opposed to minor tweaks, jump in iso but worse dr, worse base iso, inflated price…

    • chrisgull

      Sigh… where is Comment Cop when you need him. 😉

  • Nikita

    seems like the D3xxx series would be served just as well with a 20mp sensor, given the average user is not usually an enthusiast – I believe.

    But unless there’s a price drop, I don’t expect much motivation to purchase here.

    • Merv S

      That would mean another manufacturing line for an extra sensor, leads to higher production costs. They’ve been making this 24 MP sensor for a couple of years now, chance are this sensor is cheaper to make than now then when it first came out a couple of years ago.

      • SimenO

        Nikon don’t need to develop a _new_ sensor. They could just use the same 20 Mp sensor as A3000, A3500, A5000, K-S1, K-S2 and QX1. But beginners care more about Mp.

        • Captain Megaton

          21 vs 24 megapixels is an academic difference.

          A better 24 MP sensor is as good a thing to have as a better 21 MP sensor.

    • Max

      Enthusiasts care less about megapixels. The majority of the market this camera is aimed at will definitely appreciate more megapixels. Because otherwise “my smartphone has more megapixels than this”….

    • David Peterson

      Sadly the lower end the camera the more the buyer will be guided only by specs… . MUST HAVE MORE MEGAPICKLES!! :-/ 🙁

      Hopefully the D7300 will use the new 21MP sensor from the D500

      • Nikita

        I suppose.
        My two hopes for a D7300 are increased RGB sensor MPs (for better focus tracking) and auto AF fine tune (though I hear its not as fool-proof as hoped on the the D500).

      • EnPassant
      • amaas

        The 24MP sensor in the D7200 outperforms the 21MP sensor in the D500 for general purpose use. I couldn’t see the D500 sensor ending up in the D7300 because that would be a downgrade in low ISO performance. Right now you have the 21MP sensor for speed/high ISO IQ and the 24MP sensor for resolution/low ISO IQ. I’d expect the D7300 to get a new higher-MP sensor to move that split even further.

        Now I could see putting the 21MP sensor in the D5600, giving it a real differentiator from the D3400 below and D7200 above. Give it 4K on par with the A6300 and Nikon will have a real winner (and the stills folks can just buy a D3400 or D7200 instead)

        • David Peterson

          The D500 sensor is better better at high ISO, even at 800 it shows its edge. (and tonal range even at ISO100 is better with the D500)

          I think the D500 is the best general purpose DX camera there is! From anybody

          But yes, with the flip out screen the D5x00 already has, getting the D500 sensor and 4K makes a lot of sense.

  • HD10

    I had expected the “D3500”. But as this camera is targeting this as an entry level camera, a “D3400” sounds fine if the next step up model will be a new “D5600”, so “34 – 56” thus.

    For the enthusiast however, there will be a disconnect in terms of what camera model was released together with other camera models from within the same generation.

    • Captain Megaton

      I would be very (pleasantly) surprised to see the D3400 get the 39 point module. The price point is simply too cost sensitive.

      How many does the Canon have now? Probably a good guide to what Nikon will do.

      • HD10

        This is within the realm of a plausible upgrade. Nikon improved the AF points when it went from 39-points in the D7000 to 51-points in the D7100, as well as from 11-points of the D5000 to 39-points in the D5100.

      • CaMeRa QuEsT

        That’s correct, the D3*00 series has historically been a tit for tat response to Canon’s bottom of the line DSLR series, with the only significant difference being that Nikon has used higher resolution sensors and LCD screens. But now that Nikon has 4 different AF module types across its DSLR lines, it might be a good time to put out to pasture the D3300’s.

        • Captain Megaton

          Totally plausible logic, if the cost of the 39pt LCD vs 11pt LED module can be absorbed. I my gut feeling says we are still at least one more model revision away from this upgrade though.

          • CaMeRa QuEsT

            Oh, yeah, completely forgot about that other part they need to replace to properly use the 39 point AF module: the simple focusing screen with overlaid LEDs used with the 11 point AF module. So there will be more added cost after all, plus a darker OVF image due to the additional LCD panel blocking light. Now I understand why I like the D3100/D3200/D3300 OVF more than the D5100/D5200’s. I just bought a D5500, I’ll see if its OVF is also darker than the D3300’s when it arrives. Oh well, if that’s the price to pay for being able to place an AF point on a portrait subject’s closest eye without needing to re-frame (and the capability of selecting the AF point with the touch screen). But Nikon could still use the same LED system, that way they can keep the framing guides for the upmarket bodies only while still providing a brighter OVF on the D3300 replacement.

    • Jim Huang

      TBH, I’d rather Nikon throw in the AF fine tune or auto AF finetune function rather than that 39 points AF system. Don’t get me wrong, it’d be awesome, but the problem is that I can’t really use my fast lenses with my D3200 and D5300 bodies. The exception of course are the new sigma lenses which I can do AF finetune thhrough USB dock

    • TylerChappell

      As opposed to Canon’s naming of Rebel T#’s in the US, KISS in Japan, and ###D in Europe etc? 😉

  • David Peterson

    > “It remains a mystery why Nikon skipped the D5400 and not the D3400 model name.”

    Probably because they refresh the D3x00 series faster than the D5x00 series??

    • El Aura

      D5500 15 months
      D5300 9 months
      D5200 19 months
      D5100 24 months
      average: 17 months

      D3300 21 months
      D3200 20 months
      D3100 13 months
      average: 18 months

      • David Peterson

        Oh! Very interesting. Thank you.

        But if you exclude the 9 month outlier then the D5x00 series is slower to refresh.

        • El Aura

          Yeah, but the difference then is also only one month (19 month for the D5x00 vs 18 months for the D3x00). For all practical purposes the two lines are on a very similar schedule.

      • David Peterson

        19 months since the D5500 was announced…. D5600 is overdue!!

        Really really really hope the D5600 has 4K!

        Maybe that is why they are announcing D3400 first? As it might skip 4K, so they can give more time to the D500 has the only 4K DX option, before bringing out the D5600 with 4K.

      • rosestraf

        All diz computation hurt my head. Please Stop.

    • Max

      maybe they thought they would release it along with the d5 and d500, but then those cameras came long after and Nikon had already printed a million ‘D5500’ badges, so just went with it to save money.

    • amaas

      Many Japanese companies tend to avoid using the number 4 in product names if possible. That’s because the Kanjji for 4 is also the kanji for death and a fair bit of their market is superstitious about such things.

      It’s not a hard and fast rule (see F4, D4, F401(s)), but Nikon usually avoids those product names

      • David Peterson

        True. GH4 is another notable famous exception!

        No GF4/G4 however, skipped straight to GF5/G5!

      • TylerChappell

        Didn’t Nikon themselves say it had nothing to do with that? That it was they felt enough changes had been made to the D5500 (mostly physically speaking) to constitute it skipping the D5400 naming which implied too minor of a refresh?

        • amaas

          Oh, Nikon did make noises when asked.

          But there’s more differences between a D5000 and D5100 or a D5100 and D5200 than between the D5300 and D5500.

          So their explanation doesn’t really hold water, which isn’t unusual for Nikon. They’re really terrible at customer communication.

  • rosestraf

    This is strange…since 400 is an evil number in Japan Society. I called my friend, who knows a girl, who dates a boy, whose Aunt supplies Kimchi for the worker’s at Nikon Headquarters. Said 400 is evil number.

  • Eric Calabros

    Who asked for better Guide?

    • Clubber Lang

      Remember the days of less guidance. A much better place. Ha ha.
      Let’s get it together Nikon. There’s nobody out there but photography die hards. The people buying cameras nowadays don’t need guidance.

      • Spy Black

        That camera was simple and basic, and didn’t need the guide. Cameras like even the D3xxx are actually far more sophisticated than that, especially for the casual or untrained user. The guide is actually a smart idea for the target user base.

        • TylerChappell

          Even though I never used it myself other than to play with it, I’ve certainly mentioned it to many friends who were looking to buy their first DSLR and just getting started in photography. It’s actually a really good feature to help newbies understand what aperture and shutter speed are doing.
          The D3100 was my first camera back in 2012, and also the first D3xxx camera to feature the guide mode if I remember correctly. I soon outgrew the D3100 and went to the D7100, not even realizing our D3100 had the guide mode on it until updating that as the family camera to a D3200 and playing with the guide mode on there.
          Nikon needs to just update the firmware on the D3xxx cameras to allow you to choose ISO in 1/3 stops.

    • Spy Black

      Beginners and amateurs, the people that will be buying this camera.

  • Maybe they’ll release a D5400 as an apology for releasing the D5500 as a cross-grade as opposed to an upgrade to the D5300.

    • Shutterbug

      The D5500 gets outstanding reviews and is easily the best entry level camera right now. None of these entry level cameras get huge upgrades – they are on a quick refresh schedule and account for the vast majority of Nikon’s income.

      • Don’t need reviews, ebayed my D5300 for the D5500 actually, so I know what’s up, but still consider it a cross-grade.

    • amaas

      Nikon’s been iterating the lower-end models enough that there really only are marginal improvements between models.

      Even the 39-point AF unit really isn’t that much better than the old 11-point (better coverage for tracking, but otherwise it’s still got the same poor frame coverage that’s been an issue since the F80’s 5 point unit arrived, and per-sensor point performance hasn’t changed much since the D200)

  • Perhaps Nikon should work with Tesla to create a “Guide” that would drive you, autonomously, to your nearest National Park and stop at pre-programmed sites to take pictures of selected viewpoints.

    • CaMeRa QuEsT

      If they do, that guide might lead you to falling off a cliff to your death while you shoot countre jour.

      • nwcs

        Only if you’re on the Segway portion of the tour.

    • Max

      Or release the d3400 with pokemon go pre-installed so as to inspire people to shoot pokemon.

      • Davo

        You laugh. But a ‘game’ where the goal was to shoot pokemons photographically would probably be very popular.

  • MB

    Great news … so now everybody can continue NOT to use an improved Guide Mode …

  • Captain Megaton

    If we are doing requests: Nikon should replace the LCD with a “gapless type”. The 2mm airgap between the screen and the cover looks increasingly cheap these days.

  • Davo

    Yep, now imagine an augmented reality version using dedicated cameras. But you’d need an EVF or overlay to project the Pokemon targets.
    So the game would be like a virtual urban safari but you’re photographing virtual pokemons vs real animals.

  • jojo

    There explanation was given by a Nikon man a while back for the jump from D5300 to D5500 numbering was something along the lines of “to emphasise the massive changes to the body “monocoque” type construction”. Possibly BS, or possibly the D3400 body is still similar to the D3300?

    • TylerChappell

      The D3400 will indeed be nearly identical again to the D3200 and D3300. They’re saving that hawt “new” D5500 look only for the 5xxx family.

  • Max

    no way..

  • aarif

    D760 with D500 AF and 4k video and an updated 24mp sensor. now that will make me spend money nothing else

  • Daniel Högberg

    I just hope its smaller.

    • PhilK

      Those entry-level DSLRs already seem like little toys too small for my hands, personally.

      Seems to me that the lenses are one of the key impediments to smaller overall size. Modern AF lenses with VR tend to be pretty large’ish.

  • please Guide me to earn money

  • AlphaT

    And we thought Nikon marketing goofed by using a D3x00 camera to launch Snapbridge (should have used a D500).
    We didn’t know that they already have a D3x00 prototype that uses Snapbridge.

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