Nikon AF Micro-Nikkor 200mm f/4D IF-ED lens listed as discontinued

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The Nikon AF Micro-Nikkor 200mm f/4D IF-ED lens is listed as discontinued at the official UK online store. A replacement for this lens has been rumored for a while. The lens is still in stock at B&H.

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  • Eric Calabros

    Make it AF-P please. Would be faster and more precise in live view.

    • AF-P would also make it 40% more expensive. Oh yeah… that’s the point. Ha! Gut feeling… a refreshed version will be $2.3k.

      It’s about time though… the 200mm f/4 is a great macro lens but only the pro bodies have built-in auto focus motors, limiting a few sales here and there no doubt.

      Didn’t Tamron have a pretty decent 180mm? They’re in “refresh and make better” mode it seems.

      • Melkor

        Sigma has one 180mm f2.8 macro

        • Andoz Krishnadas

          but the sigma one is really heavy , i had it for a few months before going back to the 105 because i kept missing bees and butterflies ( but i suck at macro anyway so maybe someone whos better than me has more success with the sigma) it was great for stationary subjects with focus stacking though

      • Tim Burke

        The af-p 18-55 is like a hundred bucks. All of the Canon lenses are electronic aperture. What makes you think it’s a horrendously expensive technology?

      • David Weinehall

        Somehow I doubt that the people who are willing to spend $2000 on a lens uses a body that lacks auto-focus motor (well, possibly as a secondary or tertiary body, but definitely not as their main body).

        And you definitely needn’t go pro to get a built-in auto focus motor; even the D7000 has one (hell, my old D50 had one too).

  • Jarret O’Shea

    Maybe if they announce a new one the used ones will start to fall under $1000? Pretty please?

    • Morris

      no

      • erin

        I found one for $1000 on the nose (canadian!) for my husband- guess I did ok? Seems optically perfect, no wear

        • FountainHead

          The only part about your post I find disappointing is that you’re already married. (If it doesn’t work out, get in touch.)

          Great buy.

      • Jarret O’Shea

        /sadtrombone

  • One of the very best. Hopefully this signifies the coming of a modern replacement.

  • T.I.M

    It’s about time for that lens to be refresh, my 105mm f/2.8 micro already have AFS+VF functions.

  • nwcs

    I thought it was discontinued years ago… Effectively anyway.

  • Paco Ignacio

    Best Nikon macro ever.

    • fanboy fagz

      Yep right after the 105vr. Way more versatile. Fast sharp amazing bokeh for portraits

      • Paco Ignacio

        Well. I meant optical and built quality. Even the 60mm G has better IQ than the 105 VR.

        • fanboy fagz

          those were the times when they made the lenses like tanks. the 85 1.4AFD the 105/135dc the 35mm 1.4 all heavy sturdy metal. loved the feel.

  • I love my copy of this lens

  • FountainHead

    Maybe the best lens I ever bought.
    Great piece of kit for macro, portraits, … even landscapes in its own way.

  • BPhoto

    I am looking forward to the replacement. Then bring on the fisheye-zoom!

  • Photobug

    Great lens. Had the opportunity to use one a few years ago for a day. Very very sharp. My prediction; used prices at camera stores and on eBay will increase not decrease as buyers try to buy one before they are no longer available.

  • TheInconvenientRuth

    One does not simply replace a legend…

    • Sean Walsh

      … one attempts to improve upon it; then fails miserably.

  • Tim Burke

    I predict much wailing and rending of clothing when the new one isn’t all metal.

    • David Weinehall

      Indeed. Even though the new materials used will most likely be sturdier there’ll be plenty of “but it doesn’t *feel* as sturdy as metal”.

  • TwoMetreBill

    And this time have it designed by the “A” team with none of that sloppy “focus breathing”. Nikon still has a few real lens designers left, witness the 70-200 f/4.

    • d810_shooter

      The guy who designed the industry-leading 70-200 f/4 should be made the designer of the 70-200 f/2.8 VR replacement….

      • TwoMetreBill

        Right on! I’d vote for him to be in charge of all Nikon high end lens designs.

  • Jeffry De Meyer

    I wonder if it will be PF and be the size of the 60mm

    • hje

      I’d be surprised to see a micro with PF. In my opinion image quality is more important than compactness.

      • Jeffry De Meyer

        I would gladly give up flare while shooting bugs in the field, not so much when shooting products in a more controlled setting.

  • Erkan Özgür Yılmaz

    Oh snap! I was planing to buy one in 3 months, and now I have to wait for the new one to see if it is better. Don’t want to have fallen in to the same mistake like in 60 f/2.8D which is better then the 60 f/2.8G.

    • Captain Megaton

      The Ai 55/2.8S is better than either and half the price.

  • Elbert Jan Achterberg

    That one is long overdue. The one in my bag is 20 years old. I love this lens for its image quality, narrow field of view and working distance. It’s AF is painfully slow (for most macro work I don’t care, but there are moments when fast AF would be nice). The only real complaint I have is the AF-MF ring that tends to break.

    Perhaps a 180mm 2.8 AF-s PF? VR

    • David Weinehall

      It’s *very* unlikely that a PF-lens would be suitable for macro-use. Nikon’s micro-lenses (and those from other manufacturers, for that matter) have always focused on imagine quality. PF doesn’t aim to get better image quality; rather they are a tradeoff — worse image quality, *much* lighter lenses.

  • Morris

    the successor will be an hell of lens, possibly not as sharp as the older guy, i sold my 105 looking at the 150 and 180 by sigma, lets see nikons idea now, price ? bad bad bad

    • TwoMetreBill

      Except for the focus breathing, which “seemed” to be less severe than Nikon (correct me if I’m wrong please), I was quite happy with the Sigma 180 f/3.5 on a D300s. The newer f/2.8 is supposed to be substantially sharper. I would guess the f3.5 might be marginal on the higher MP bodies.

      Used it alongside a Nikon 80-200 f/2.8D. Both built like tanks and both operated beautifully. The Sigma was sharper closer than 8′, the Nikon superior over that.

  • Morris

    hope they also update the macro lighting set, CR123 batteries no no, use leds etc

  • Morris

    a Macro launch (dreams) a D820 with more MP, the successor of the 200 F4d, and new macro lightning system, what a success, deadly expensive

  • whisky

    i’m not getting my hopes up for a replacement. if this lens were a big seller, it’d already have been replaced. Nikon didn’t bother to replace the low selling but optically excellent 70~180mm micro either. JMO.

    • Elbert Jan Achterberg

      Could happen, I hope not! Nikon has had a 200mm f4 micro for a long time, there was a MF version that focused to 1:2 before the AF version came out. The fact that it’s listed as discontinued before the replacement is announced is a bit worrying.

  • preston

    The 135mm f/2 DC is 3 years older than 200 micro and has sold almost double the copies. I would imagine that should be replaced first. The autofocus motor update is also more critical for a portrait lens than a macro lens. Also, when shot wide open the purple fringing (CA) on the 135 looks horrendous compared to the competition. The Canon and Zeiss are just optically better. And the rumored Sigma 135 Art is sure to be better (and cheaper) as well. It is not so clear cut that the Sigma and Tamron long macros are optically better than the old Nikon.

    • Jarret O’Shea

      Don’t forget the Samyang 135. I have that one, and it’s as fantastic as everyone says it is, as well as being dirt cheap for the segment. Of course it doesn’t have AF or VR, but then neither does the Zeiss.

      • Erkan Özgür Yılmaz

        Yes and I love my samyang 135 f/2 and it replaces my previous favorite: samyang 85 f/1.4. And after these two I’m seriously started to think about third-party lenses especially Samyang. Did you use their 100 f/2.8 macro? how is it?

        • Jarret O’Shea

          I have not used it, already had the Nikon version when it came out.

  • d810_shooter

    i rather want to see a AF-S 200mm f/2.8 micro PF VR at about 2 pounds.

    Now that can double as a f/2.8 prime and is lightweight enough. hopefully it would work well with a 1.4x TC.

  • stevieg

    If a replacement is waiting in the wings, it will almost certainly be a G or E type (or some aperture-less design). This means that I won’t be able to use it on any other of my non-nikon camera bodies. This may not be an issue for many, but is for me. My copy is probably the sharpest lens I own and has produced some of my favourite images. The micro-contrast is sublime! Will watch with interest, but will be holding onto my D-spec copy for now.

  • vFunct

    Legendary lens. RIP.

  • BrainBeat

    I do not really know much about this lens but it seems like an odd and not particularly useful lens. I am guessing it is meant to be used for macro by they was some comments are saying but 200 to me sounds very tele for that. Also if it is only f4 that seems very slow compared to other options unless it is really cheap which I would doubt.

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