Weekly Nikon news flash #352

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→ The 2016 BCN camera sales rankings for Japan are out: Nikon sold more compact cameras and fewer DSLRs compared to 2015, while lens sales remain unchanged.

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→ New Nikon D500 and D5 workshops announced in Germany and Austria (see US launch events here)

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→ Nikon Singapore awarded a prize to a badly photoshopped photo (above) and the Internet responded appropriately:

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→ New D500 intro video from Nikon Canada.

→ Those are the photographers who had an early access to the Nikon D500 camera.

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  • Captain Megaton

    Two standouts,

    1. Sigma has nearly as much lens share as Nikon.
    2. The 3rd place mirrorless brand is Canon, after Oly and Sony (before Nikon and even Panasonic! Those M3 models must have been really flying.)

    • Eric Calabros

      Japan market is way different than anywhere else. I guess AF performance is not their priority. Maybe it’s a wrong generalizing but %90 of photos taken by Japanese that I see in social networks are about landscape, city architecture, food or static objects.

      • Thom Hogan

        Price and size tend to be priorities in Japan.

        By way of contrast, worldwide Nikon sells about 30% of all lenses.

  • Eric Calabros

    Nikon Singapore is not even ashamed of that ladder image, they are happy that it’s made a internet meme lol 🙂

  • QuantalQuetzal

    In the Canadian video it sounds like the D500 (just like the D5 after the firmware upgrade) also splits 4K recordings into individual 3 minute files.
    Is that due to some NTFS file system limitations?

    • Eric Calabros

      If 144mb/s bit rate is true, a 5min file will be around 5.5GB. so, I doubt its because of file system. Maybe they just keep it out of Video Camera definitions. some countries impose more import tariff on them.

    • RMJ

      The filesystem is FAT32, not NTFS. NTFS is Microsoft’s filesystem used on NT based Windows. FAT32 is the common standard for USB sticks, memory cards, etc. Almost all operating systems supports FAT32, so it’s safe choice for filesystem.

      FAT32 has maximum file size of 4,294,967,295 bytes (one byte under 4GB).
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Allocation_Table

      That sets the limit. If the video size goes over 4GB, it has to be split. If the camera uses 144 Mb/s constant bit rate, then 3 minutes takes 3,2 GB of space. So it has to be split more or less there. I don’t know if Nikon goes all the way to 4GB limit or simply split at 3 minutes mark. Either way, they has to split it.

      • QuantalQuetzal

        Thanks RMJ, I actually confused NTFS and FAT32.

        Still I don’t know if many people were aware of this. When we got the news about the D5 being able to store 10 consecutive 3-minute clips, everybody was like, “yeah, that should do, but I’ll go for the D500 anyway”.

      • Thom Hogan

        By the way, this is just another of those things that make me continue to write that the camera companies haven’t made it to the 21st century and are using outdated standards.

        • QuantalQuetzal

          What alternative is there? As far as I know, NTFS is Microsoft-proprietary system, EXT is a Linux thing and so forth. I say, it’s mainly Microsoft who is posing these limitations, as many people use it and it doesn’t support file systems other than its own. FAT32 is only the greatest common factor, kind of.

          • Thom Hogan

            Well, they could license ;~). And now you know the reason why they stick with the old systems: they’re really hesitant to move towards anything that might increase or change their current license models, and especially something that they aren’t in control of. That’s why we haven’t been seeing Bluetooth in most cameras (at least until Nikon’s Snapbridge initiative with the D500).

            • Mike

              XQD was pretty ballsy though. Basically forcing people to adapt to a (potentially) Betamax system. Better and popular are often mutually exclusive (like celebrities or photography :~) )

            • jonra01

              There has been absolutely no reason for any camera company to go to NTFS until 4k video files became an issue. There are really only two benefits from using ntfs instead of fat32 for memory cards – the 4gb single file size limit and the 2tb drive limit. I don’t see this as a failure on the part of the camera makers, at all. Heck, Macs still have trouble writing to ntfs formatted drives, so why would the camera companies want to use a format that Macs have trouble with? Android devices also can’t read ntfs. I’ll come around to your way of thinking if you know of some new standard that has full industry support that will eliminate the limitations of the fat32 system. Otherwise, I’m going to believe that one of the camera companies would have switched to a better file system in order to gain a competitive edge on the other companies.

            • Thom Hogan

              The correct answer is XFat. And the smart camera makers are going that route, though it involves licensing.

            • jonra01

              I was busy writing a long reply defending the camera companies for not using exfat and then discovered that Nikon does support it on newer cameras. Any Nikon with sdxc card support, like the D500 and D5, should be able to handle exfat. The D4s C:1.10 firmware upgrade that was released in 2014 allowed in-camera formatting of exfat volumes larger than 128gb. I guess they aren’t too cheap to pay the royalties, but I have no explanation why the exfat capabilities aren’t more well known.

            • El Aura

              Deleted.

          • nwcs

            ZFS would probably be the best option. Not everyone supports it because there hasn’t been a real need but it would solve a lot of problems.

            • ZFS, really? That’s am even more heavyweight filesystem than NTFS. No place on a removable storage designed for very low power…

            • nwcs

              I like ZFS for its ability to self correct from corruption, versioning, etc. Plenty of people have used it on flash (SD, CF, etc) memory without problems.

            • Sure, I agree that ZFS is awesome for such purposes. But for in-camera use, these features are mostly overhead, and I don’t think that they’re CPU-light. IMHO, the simpler filesystem the better for cameras; you only store the pictures there temporarily until you offload them to the computer.

          • Eno

            ExFat for example. 🙂

          • Nimloth

            exFAT is made for removable drives and is widely supported, though proprietary. Would make more sense using exFAT than NTFS. As for licences, it’s obviously affordable enough for the humble memory sticks. And there were a few FAT-related lawsuits not long a go, so licences are probably still an issue for FAT as well. I’m pretty sure people won’t care a lot about that bit of added price of a D5 or D500… 🙂

      • Andrew

        Interesting discussion on FAT32 versus NTFS file systems.

        The maximum file size of NTFS is 16 Terabytes (TB) versus 4 Gigabytes (GB) for FAT32. Windows 10, 8, 7, Vista, 2003, and XP all support NTFS.

        The maximum number of files per volume is 4 billion for NTFS versus 4 million for FAT32.

        Here is a more useful reference: http://www.ntfs.com/ntfs_vs_fat.htm

      • CERO

        That makes sense to split the files every 3 minutes to 4Gb limit.
        I wonder, if there is a firmware upgrade to update to NTFS or exfat.. would they finally write full solid files?

    • NBMZ

      It’s due to the FAT32 4GB file limitation. If it was an NTFS format, you would not have this issue. 🙂

      Yup, these cameras still use fat file systems from back in the day of windows 3.1 and DOS… 🙁

  • No OLPF. Sharper images. Will have to check about moire though.

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