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Grey market Nikon D800 cameras now sale for $2,100

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The price of the grey market Nikon D800 camera dropped to $2,099.99 on eBay. Note that grey market Nikon equipment does not have US warranty and Nikon USA will not repair it.

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  • Eric Calabros

    selling one every 10 minutes :-)

    • frank

      Used to work at a camera shop and I had this customer asking 101 q’s about a Nikon N90. Some time later he comes in asking for instructions on how to use is new F90 (European model designation). I told him I’d never seen it nor do I know anything about it (not only grey market, but he only comes in to waste my time but buys elsewhere).
      Not too long later he comes back in because his F90 had broken. We sent it off to Nikon USA in the L.A. area just to have it returned a month later. I didn’t do this to be mean, I honestly didn’t know about repair restrictions back then. In the return box was a love letter from Nikon stating that they didn’t have any parts for this camera as it’s not a USA model.
      He had to spend probably around $75 bucks to ship it off to either Japan, England or Europe. I think the whole process took nearly three months.

      • manhattanboy

        And after that experience he will never buy another Nikon product again.

        It’s ridiculous that US Nikon centers do not even attempt to repair it for someone willing to pay. Think about that from a customer perspective, and how anti-customer that policy is. It basically says we do not want your money or future business. Think about that from a distribution perspective and how stupid it is not to be able to move inventory around to match demand.

        Nikon is living on borrowed time if they continue practices like these. Their only saving grace is that Canon seems to be smacking its customers in the face as well. If Nikon and Canon users start abandoning ship, I would keep an eye out for a Fuji lifeboat.

        • AM I Am

          If Nikon was living on borrowed time, it wouldn’t be because denying service to grey market products for sure. It would probably be for something else.
          What percentage is being sold in the grey market anyway? What percentage of that percentage will ever require service? I would say that the number is negligible. So, Nikon is most likely not worried.
          I understand your points, but if the current policy clearly states that grey market products are not serviced, and people still gamble on that, well, there’s nothing to whine about if things don’t play out in their favor.

          • Q

            It it is insignificant then they shouldn’t worry and just treat them as normal. Am I missing the point?

            Grey market means customer confusion and taking customers for granted. These are still Nikon cameras.

            • Manvin

              Nikon it is your responsibility to allow the camera to go through international distributors channel or distribution grey market.

              Nikon, again it is your responsibility to cover 1 year standard local or international warranty (due local law & regulation rules)

              Then why did you back out any supports for grey products, especially you allow to sell grey camera in 1st place?

          • Global

            50 years ago — when Nikon was changing out of its Nazi/Imperial war glass diapers, the world was not as globalized as it is today.

            There is no such thing as “Grey” market anymore — the entire world is one common market. That is the WHOLE POINT of government’s making treaties with other nations through the World Trade Organization. Not everyone approves of this of course, its damaged many local businesses — but our governments — the United States, Europe, Canada, China, and, yes, JAPAN — all signed onto this massive global experiment in GLOBAL commerce.

            The fact that companies like Nikon and Canon refuse to deal with these realities is shocking, precisely because they are the kinds of companies that take advantage of it every single chance they get. Whether its new factories in China or Thailand — or selling to all these global markets — they use the global system as much as they can.

            So when consumers ask, “Hey, I bought YOUR product, and you are a GLOBAL corporation, what about having some responsibility for YOUR product” and Nikon and Canon duck and cover, it smacks of delusion, hypocrisy, and, at the very minimum, very, very bad customer service.

            The way that other companies deal with this is, “one price — one world.” You bake the costs in. You have different levels of products. And let customers choose. But you don’t skimp on customer service. That’s the surest way to die as a brand, where other companies are putting customer service first.

            Nikon is still engaged in “national sales” — they need to change their model from “international” to properly “global.” They are getting there, but they are still way behind. And this is the biggest issue from a C/S point of view.

            • umeshrw

              Very nicely said.

            • Jorge

              Here! Here!

            • JBaxter

              What’s over there?

              It’s “Hear hear!” you idiot.

            • Jorge

              Hear! Hear!!
              That better?

      • delayedflight

        God I hate those types of time wasters funny enough we had a character exactly like yours. Except he was asking 101 questions about the A7[r] series ended up getting it from somewhere else yet the guy that helped him spent probably well over 1-2 hours over a period of time.

        Came in to ask about lenses when the salesman (whom he wasted time with) who declined to help (a polite fuck you) because it was extremely busy, he walked out yelling “Well fuck you too” in a packed store I think everyone in the store including customers thought he was an arsehole.

        He probably won’t buy from us again but he probably wasn’t going to buy from us in the first place.

        • http://micahmedia.com/ Micah

          If the brick and mortar wants the sale, then the price match. If not, they’ll just continue to be dying doormats.

          And Nikon’s repair policy is a stupid relic of their USA distribution being a separate entity.

          All they’d have to do to fix this would be to agree to pay for repairs done by Nikon USA.

          And they have to do something like that soon, because there’s no way they can keep up with repairs if they won’t sell parts to independent repair houses (which should just be flat illegal.)

          • delayedflight

            You obviously don’t get it a store is not stupid to price match something that is sometimes negative profit no-one in their right mind would price match something like that.

            If you want the very best rock bottom price and you know what you want it’s fair enough to go on to the net. But to waste a salesman’s time because you’re too lazy to do your research and then trying to get him to make negative profit is just rude.

            • http://micahmedia.com/ Micah

              I personally don’t treat salespeople like that. But sales is all about enabling, not controlling the customer. Having the wrong price disables many/most customers from purchasing at brick and mortar stores. Rude or not, that’s how the world works.

              I try to support local shops as much as possible, but when we’re talking a 30% price difference, that can’t be ignored.

          • SPfan

            Once upon a time, Nikon was distributed in the US by Ehrenreich Photo Optical Industries, a completely separate business. Nippon Kogaku had expectations and targets that EPOI had to meet so a gray sale was a lost sale. This changed decades ago. Now, Nikon USA is Nikon. The problem is Nikon Japan who really don’t care how the cameras are sold, so long as they are sold. They figure they can’t be choosy and they’re right.

            • http://micahmedia.com/ Micah

              To a point. They’re not 100% right, since many burned customers have jumped ship to other brands. But they’re enough right that they can continue business as usual.

              I learned long ago that many business don’t have to be good to be successful. Just good enough. The bar is pretty low to stay in business.

    • stats

      ‘coz suckers are born every minute?

  • Kynikos

    Come the D810, I’m just going to buy another one of these bad boys for about $1850.

  • Manvin

    Not worth it because u can’t get it local warranty for grey products…

    • Kynikos

      $2800 at B&H. $700 more.

      Is the warranty really worth $700, 33% of the $2100 purchase price? I doubt it very much. That would be the world’s sourest lemon.

      • hard math

        Its worth it because IF the camera fails… then choice becomes 2100 paper weight or 500-900 repair at a non-nikon repair hack

        for working pro, stick to US. For hobbyists its a choice… but then i would go for used/refurbished US model for much less

        • Manvin

          If you own a Gray Market product it will need to be returned to the reseller or importer for service.

        • SPfan

          You send it to Japan. It’s slow and a terrible hassle but $700 is a ridiculous price difference. Nikon Japan does a better job, too.

    • http://micahmedia.com/ Micah

      Not true. Local repair places can’t get parts for many things. I live in Porltand, OR, and there is only one “authorized” repair place in the entire northwest. Not just my city, bu about a 1500 mile radius (since L.A is the only place that can service most of my lenses).

      So the chances of a local place being able to get parts to do a repair for most recent models is slim to none.

  • Geek707

    Not just no US warranty. Nikon USA does not repair grey market equipment.
    Add to that the shortage of parts to independent repair shops, getting grey market repaired can be a challenge.

    • Ken Stonewell

      To each his or her own, but I don’t think I’d touch a Nikon grey product with a 10 foot pole (aka 3.048 meter pole for some of you).

      • jon

        lol. so much pole…

      • Sundra Tanakoh

        Keep in mind not everyone in the world lives in the USA. We in Ukraine, still get a 1 year replacement dealer warranty.

    • http://micahmedia.com/ Micah

      Getting USA bodies repaired at all, let alone under warranty, is next to impossible. And that’s even if you send it to Nikon!

  • ShaoLynx

    OK, lets start a conversation here: anyone ever had any experience with eglobal central? Just Google them. Their prices are rock bottom. And they do seem to get good reviews. Anyone who has any experience to share?…

  • Spy Black

    Ya throws your dice, and ya takes ya chances. Sometimes you win, sometimes you don’t. What’ll it be?

    • Aldo

      pro body, built in Japan…minimum odds of getting a faulty body imo.

      • G

        At least it isn’t made in China crap…jk

        Electronics do fail and when they do it is often early in their life.

        I don’t care if it is made on the moon using the best technology, it is still an electronic.

      • Spy Black

        Yeah, I think it’s a good gamble if you’re in the market for it.

  • Spy Black

    Curious however, other than the insane price, what makes you say this is gray market? I have yet to find anything on that page alluding to that. I can’t imagine it not being gray market, but I’m not finding it listed as such there.

    • Geek707

      under:
      Item specifics:
      Manufacturer Warranty: No

      • Spy Black

        Ah! Sneaky. :-)

  • whisky

    so … who’s responsible for the left sensor?

    • pom

      you, and your decision to go grey… or wait for 3 years for that recall like D600

  • Rob

    In NZ no manufacture warranty means the retailer provides the warranty. Since Nikon only gives us a one year guarantee you loose little when buying grey market as the sellers are obliged to give the same. Repairs for out of warranty gear can be sent to the sellers as well as they have service departments. NZ is about to sign the TPPA which might put an end to grey market consumer items from being sold which would be a great loss to the public. Some of our grey importers have been in business for over a decade and have good reputations.

  • LarryC

    It’s just a numbers game: you have to save enough money buying gray market items to cover the costs of a complete replacement of those items that fail. It’s like options trading: if you’re committed and good at it, and a little lucky, you might save money, but if you just buy an item or two and have the least amount of bad luck, you are in the hole. I often buy used equipment because I know I can get it fixed for a price, but never high dollar gray market items that cannot be repaired, and I gave up options trading just before the ’08-09 crash.

  • Jon Ingram

    Man, that is a low price…, so tempted

  • lord eels

    almost a fair price. problem is, nikon is in hardcore cost cutting mode for the past few years. they cheap out on EVERYTHING now. the d800 still has a world leading sensor, but single other aspect of the camera is cheaped out on. the AF is not dependable. the grips bubble up in a few months. even the multi-selector wears out far too soon. nikon is just crappy now. d600, nuff said. even the 58mm is clearly a ridiculous profit margin play, mortgaged on one of the true nikon legends (plus the hood is a cheap POS, unlike the other pro 1.4g primes).

    look I love nikon, or at least what they used to be. but the difference in build and other-than-image-quality between the d800 vs d4 is SHOCKING compared to the d700 vs d3.

    yes, this is by design, but you need to recognize this for what it is. nikon is cheating out on everything except the pro cameras now. the d800 is FAR more consumer than prosumer, IMO. this camera will need service FOR CERTAIN before the rated shutter count is exhausted. if you want to play that gamble, go for it.

    • Aldo

      I worked with the d800 hanheld for over a year and a half (took over 70k photos), grips were fine… camera never failed… “grips bubble in a few months” you clearly don’t own a d800/e. Once you learn how to work with more than 12 megapixels you’ll stop complaining.

      • Art

        I’m not one of the lurkers here that constantly bash NIkon but not only did I have a left sensor problem, my grip started to peel up as well. I sent it in to get fixed and the left focus sensor is a bit better but it wasn’t but two weeks before the “fixed” grip started to bubble back up again. Should be easy to fix with contact cement but I’m afraid to use it since it might be possible for Nikon to deny service based on a home based solution.

        • Aldo

          Sorry to hear that Art. I didn’t have the left focusing issue with my d800. I was one of the lucky ones to get one out of the first batch (when people were paying 4500-5000 dollars on ebay). The only issue I encountered with mine was that it would lag writing to the card once in a while, however this didn’t prevent me to continue shooting. As far as the rubbers go, I don’t know what to tell you. I took my camera out in humid and rainy weather. It also got exposed to hot temps (over 100 degrees F)here in Cali. The thumb rubber got a bit worn out from regular use though, but that’s it.

          • lord eels

            seems like you are a total liar

            • mikeswitz

              Seems like you work for My Weekly Reader. Not only are you a proven liar (how many cameras you own keeps changing), but as far as anyone knows you’ve only taken one picture in your life and that was with a camera you denied owning but was of someone else’s D4.
              I know, I know, I’m feeding the troll.

            • Aldo

              he keeps fantasizing about that threesome… with two d4 and a d3s …. with a happy ending provided by a d800e… followed by a smoke next to a J3. But reality isn’t so bad for lord eels…. he has all the porn he needs in the B&H magazine.

      • umeshrw

        In hot conditions the grip does start to get misshapen and hence gets loose somewhat. When temp normalizes it comes back to normal but the looseness remains. Same with lens barrel rubbers. Never used to happen with my old cameras or lenses.

        • Aldo

          Most likely, but I think this was a more common issue on the d700/d300/s than it is on the d800. No matter how sophisticated the glue and the rubber are, under extreme conditions they are bound expand and retract as you say.

      • lord eels

        yeah right

        • mikeswitz

          STFU

      • http://z7photo.com/ Csaba

        Well, the parent post is a bit harsh, but I experienced the “bubbling” only after 8 months of use. Granted, I live in a tropical country, but I keep my camera and lenses in a dry box when not in use at 40-50% humidity. The right hand grip loosened up, had to replace it at the local service centre, only to have it returned a few weeks later for the left side rubber part – which is strange, because no stress is applied to that part.

        This was about 7 months ago, and now, believe it or not, I see signs of the grip loosening again. Then the paint job is also crap, it’s gone from much of the bottom of the camera (I saw this on friend’s d800 too). Overall, I’m really happy with the camera and features (and have no plan of upgrading to the d800s) but in terms of build quality, I’m not that happy. My 3-year old d7000 doesn’t show any of these problems by the way.

        I know this is not so common, but it’s not unheard of.

    • Jeffnky

      Just looked at the shutter count of my D800e and it is at 269,386. I have worn out at least 5 digital nikon shutters through the years and they have always lasted over 300,000. When they start to go out the shutter stops opening for one frame every once in a while, 2 good then one black then more good. I am very happy with my D800E.

      • lord eels

        bullseyed, crunched, with a side of sensor dust. tasty!

    • reilly diefenbach

      What a load of crap.

    • John

      My D800 is 1.5 yrs old and the grip is in perfect condition.

      All your gear has gone crap. What’s the common element in that? YOU.

      Go buy any item and I guarantee it’ll turn to crap. Because YOU are still the common element in there.

      • lord eels

        actually everything other than the d800s are just fine. fwiw, thom hogan mentioned his workshop students experience crap d800 build issues as well.

        the camera is far more consumer than prosumer.

  • Ron Moone

    Up to $2399 now. Definitely not a good deal.

    What do you suppose the official D800 price will slip to when the D800s comes out?

    • http://nikonrumors.com/ Nikon Rumors

      I guess they raised the price of the last few remaining units.

      • Rob C

        3K in Canada http://www.londondrugs.com/Nikon-D800-Body-Only/L5364377,default,pd.html

        2.8K in the US: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/842926-REG/Nikon_D800_D_800_SLR_Digital_Camera.html

        It does not seem worth saving 25% to lose your Warranty. Whatever I buy I look for a FAIR price but not necessarily the cheapest.

        Buying the cheapest means either the Employees (maybe you) must work for the least or the Employer (maybe you) must close up or find something more profitable to do with his money.

        We could all buy off ebay and not have brick and mortar, but then why even buy HERE, when we could wait a few weeks and buy overseas for a further 25% saving.

        Then why buy Nikon when you could buy child’s toy camera for even less.

        Each person in the Supply Chain must make a cut or you cut them out. If you cut them out why would they let you back in.

        If everyone gravitates to cheap then cheap is all we will have. Your garbage bags will rip before you get to the curb, your toilet paper will tear before you get partway through using it; so you must decide what you will use your money for:

        http://www.nadiakhuzina.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/mugabes-money-painting.jpg

        .

        In the long run paying cheap is not worth, nor is it worth working for cheap. People can move to where the pay and work is cheap, it makes sense because the Rent is cheap too. Me, I’m staying here.

  • outkasted

    they used dropped and nikon in the same sentence…i’ll pass

  • Ron Moone

    Is aggressive grey-marketing a new trend? Somebody must be bringing in grey cameras in pretty good quantities.

    Over the last few days starting to see new 5d MarkIII’s selling at $2700 to $2800. The ads I looked at made no mention of warranty, or talked about a one year “mail-in” warranty. Keeping my fingers crossed for a price war!

  • Q

    Nikon should repair all their cameras under warranty regardless of grey, blue, purple or green market.

    I know there are “reasons” but come on, sort it out already.

    • delayedflight

      As far as I know Nikon *USA* is the only one that doesn’t fix grey cameras. Nikon Australia here patches anything up that’s out of warranty or grey but at at price.

  • Mike Maximus

    Woudnt advise anyone to buy grey Nikon products.

    Yet I’m disappointed that Nikon will be releasing d800s. I just got my D800 it will be really disappointing to introduce new camera every 2 years, pushing us to upgrade, if this happen this will be my last Nikon, and will shift to more reputable canners where the maker respect their clients.

    • sandy

      Good lord man, no one forces you to upgrade. I am going to stop buying mazda because they come out with a new car every year. BTW, good luck finding a MFG who does not upgrade models.

      • MaximusPhotography

        You wouldn’t be able to understand what I’m talking about. and i don’t drive Mazda… :-)

    • delayedflight

      The D800s is a rumour we probably won’t see it until either after next year or the following year.
      No one is forcing you to upgrade your camera every single manufacturer including ‘canners’ will upgrade their models.

      I probably won’t upgrade my D800 for another 3 years or until it gives up the ghost as it does everything I need it to do.

  • whisky

    as Nikon is the ONLY authorized repair center for the D800, and will only sell parts (like the sensor) to authorized repair centers, it does beg the question whether grey market D800′s can receive major service anywhere outside of Japan.

    • Manvin

      If you own a Gray Market product it will need to be returned to the reseller or importer for service.

      • sandy

        You can get a Mack warranty.

        • Manvin

          I never heard of them before!

          However, i would rather Nikon to repair my camera rather then sending to unknown company.

          • sandy

            Reputable, been around a long time, many large dealers give Mack warrantys with refurb or gray cameras.
            http://www.mackcam.com/

            • whisky

              according to Nikon’s own authorized service repair center list, Nikon won’t sell parts to Mack. so either Nikon USA is not telling the truth, and Mack is an authorized repair center, or Mack is repairing gear with “recycled” components.

            • Manvin

              hey sandy,

              I think whisky is right after all, last time I’ve heard Nikon stop selling components parts.

    • espeto68

      Here in Portugal Nikon will repair any camera, grey market or not.
      I travel a couple of times a year to USA and always buy ONLY grey market, as is useless to by USA products as i don’t live there (unless they are cheaper than the grey ones).
      Here, for Nikon, it doesn’t matter where you bought your gear if you have your receipt, which makes sense.
      But i understand Nikon USA policy, trying to protect their market, which makes sense too.

      • whisky

        kudos to Nikon Portugal. perhaps your consumer laws are much better than some other countries?

    • umeshrw

      As far as I know it’s only in U.S. that this is a problem. In most other countries they do not mind supplying parts to third party repairers.

    • delayedflight

      Only Nikon *USA* pulls this shit. Nikon Australia will fix your camera but you’ll just have to pay for it.

  • Alan

    what if you buy body at hong kong and it came with world wide warranty. would they fix it?

    • Manvin

      I’m not sure about your case, however in UK:

      Nikon International warranty, this applies to conventional equipment (lenses, film based cameras, Speedlights)

      nothing mention about DSLR bodies….

  • Jeff Hunter

    D900 will be announced soon. Changes: 72 MP, 24 FPS, 500 shot buffer, AA filter on/off switch, 4K video 24-120 FPS, max ISO 1,228,800 expandable to 3,686,400, in-camera focus stacking and / or simultaneous HDR processing in JPG and RAW, will auto-focus in total darkness, EXPEED 5 processor, same price, same size and weight. Probability this information is accurate, 0.000000000000000000000000000001%

    • Ron Moone

      Well that’s OK as far as it goes, but can it FLY? Nikon misses the boat…AGAIN!

      • Jeff Hunter

        Thanks for reminding me. It comes with its own dedicated drone kit!

  • http://micahmedia.com/ Micah

    I honestly HATE this situation, since I’ve had horrible repair experiences with Nikon.

    HOWEVER, there’s really no point buying grey market, since USA refurbs have regularly been this cheap for over a year. There’s just no good reason to buy grey market, unless you’re moving overseas.

  • Joseph Li

    With nikon not selling parts anymore to independent repairs, i don’t see how it would make sense to purchase a gray market for anyone. My local camera store, 35 years in business, stopped repairing nikon because parts are impossible to find and seriously jeopardized their reputation due to long wait times. If you intend to own the camera for less than a year? maybe. For $1000? maybe (since the camera depreciate by about the same amount a year later if you buy it brand new, you wouldnt be losing much if the camera cost $1000 and stopped working after a year and u dump it into trash can).

  • MaximusPhotography

    I’m so confused about the GREY Market dilemma…

    Firstly US & Europe Union implemented globalization system and they literally pushed it on other economies until many countries adapted to the new Globalization & Capitalism system.

    Shortly, we found Major US & European companies competing with small & Medium size companies in Middle East & Asia and taking their market share under the umbrella of Globalization/Capitalism/open market, etc…

    However when the Globalization system started to show negative results on the US economy, US & European companies didn’t like it!!! They where thinking that hey we can rule the world, control all the other smaller economies and nothing will or should happen to them :-)

    Legally “There is nothing called Grey Market in Globalization System”, the world is one market.

    This looks like a game for big companies, they apply rules when it benefits them and band others when its not to their benefits!!!

  • SPfan

    People familiar with gray market will understand why Nikon outside of Japan will not do warranty repairs on these cameras. But to refuse to service your own product, even for a fee, is taking pure photography to new heights.

    Now you say “The customer should have known better! What did he/she think was going on with the low price?” But what if the item is backordered where the customer lives? And here’s a better one: The customer buys a used Nikon product, not even knowing it’s gray and Nikon punishes them for the sins of the original purchaser.

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