Nikon released video #2 of their Pure Photography campaign for the upcoming DF camera:
Either he has very big hands or the DF is pretty small.
Looks like a normal sized SLR to me… Specs seem to say it wasn’t exactly small as well.
It is reasonable for Nikon to aim for “empty” market, …this can be: 1. Ex D700 customers 2. Customers that find modern camera over specification obstructive… For a camera to be considered as D700 alternative, it must have (as with todays alternatives):
1. Manageable files, still with great quality & top DR
2. Top LL performance with respect to competition
3. Great ergonomics and build quality.
4. Being fast enough (as fast or faster than D700)
5. Have at least a CF card or better (XQD ?) storage.
Current rumours fulfil the above, but the card…, I hope they are wrong on the SD card, that first rumours claim.
This camera seems to be aimed at nature photographers. Those people like high resolution and no aa filter above the specifications of the D700.
So far we haven’t seen any action. This indicates to me that this camera will not have a high FPS.
I believe that it’s the advertisement that “aims at nature photographers”, a good sensor applies to much more photography than that… An advertisement will always look to what the marketing judges will the “all around camera” consumer does most… OTOH, because I own both D4 and d800e (and MF with MFDB), I can tell you that you have the wrong impression, D4’s sensor is as capable as any to shoot excellent landscapes at all possible sizes of print…
The D4 is the most capable of any Nikon
True… but most of it, is because of its absolutely superb sensor… So, if one doesn’t need its speed or extreme build… there you are!
…Exactly as it was with D3 and D700 back then!
My wish for the past two years is to see the 16mp D4 sensor placed into a D800 body for the folks who shoot a great deal of wedding and event work. We’d love a high ISO sensor in a large, ergonomically friendly body albeit without the $6k price-tag of the D4. The D800 does an absolutely sterling job, but it can struggle a little in dark environments where fast shutter speeds are required.
The 16mp in a D800 body would be true D700 replacement. Based upon the reports, the DH doesn’t appear to be anything of the sort, but rather a mid-sized retro throwback with some interesting new tech in the form of the EVF.
One can’t tell at this early stage obviously, but it’s starting to look like a body that isn’t going to be particularly useful for my purposes in a professional context, but damnit, I feel that I’m going to seriously lust after this body for the recreational photography.
It was my wish (to see a 16mp D800) too… and I believe it was the most shared wish we may have had with most others…
Yet, we must admit that it may be wise for Nikon (from a marketing POV) not to put out a third D800 version but instead to use a different body… (as long as they don’t prove stupid to choose a single SD for storage)…
OTOH, I don’t see any reason why some “traditional” dial design can make the camera inadequate to replace D700… In fact I believe ex-D700 users (even pros) would prefer that… Neither I believe that if build quality isn’t up to the D700/D800 level, it will seem too serious a reason for “prosumers” not to buy this camera… If build quality is as good as D6xx series, I believe they will consider that adequate. IMO it’s the storage media (if it is a single SD and less so if it is double SD) that may oppose this camera to have huge success…. If it has (even single) XQD, I believe it will be a major success, if It has CF it will be OK, if it has SD it won’t be considered as D700 (modern) alternative and it will loose many possible customers… just my 2 cents.
Other than redundancy, which of course is certainly a good thing on a professional assignment, a single modern card slot will allow for a 64 or even 128 gig card, certainly enough storage for any situation.
I think D700 owners never wanted to accept the memo, so to speak, that the D800 was indeed the D700 replacement. Just because it wasn’t what they expected or wanted, as this new model may wind up not being what we’re expecting or wanting it to be, doesn’t mean that the D800 isn’t the D700 replacement. It is OBVIOUSLY the D700 replacement.
The D800 is not the D700 replacement. “Some may think that the D800 is the successor to the D700, but we were looking
to bring the world a whole new category of camera” ~Shinya Hara, Design 1, Nikon Development HQ
Well, it’s my D700 replacement and it’s doing a damned fine job in it’s role. Still wishing for that 16mp sensor in a $3k DXXX body though
“Still wishing for that 16mp sensor in a $3k DXXX body though”
Means you do not really think it is. However hard you may try to convince yourself. Heck even I try to convince myself that my 800 is a replacement to my old 200.(true . 200 is not same as 700 but the frustration is at same level)
Expect the D700 replacement about the same time the D400 appears
Sure… Here is the one that can foreseen on the next century….
You should qualify that statement with “except for well-lit video and large format printing”. The D800 has sharper video and – well, you know…
Lets face it… This camera has so much attention on to it, because….
1. It has the best sensor in the market today
2. It promises to be more “user communicative”
We really know nothing about it (other than the sensor and that is a minimal design), not even the price which can be anywhere between 1500 and 3500…
We all have to wait and wish…
I only wish (no matter the price) that it will have better than an SD card…
Yes, maybe all this thread is doing is to convince me that the D4 is my next camera
I was just thinking the same thing, the DF may trigger 2 things; DF sales, and a wave of D4 sales as well 😉
I don’t think the ad is targeting nature photographers. I think the overall theme, like the camera, is about getting back to basics. What could be more basic than nature (no buildings, cars, utility poles, etc.) He’s not shooting nature, he’s shooting fishermen. Fly fishermen, to be precise, which is, again, getting back to basics.
Good spot… Some people forget that the target of an advert is not to sell… It is to create the wonder on a product so that it will attract interest and thus sell…
Oh my God! I think this is the first time you didn’t disagree with me. (me: picking up the phone) “Hello? Mr. Ripley…” 😉
Glad it brought so much happiness into your life!
Happiness? No. Laughter? Yes.
Here is a man than laughs without being happy… I guess its called “the always happy syndrome”… I really don’t see why you create irrelevant posts to subject… I guess its part of the syndrome ..eh?
Actually, I was laughing at my reaction to your agreement; not your agreement.
As far as relevance is concerned, I think you must be confused. Nothing that you, or any of us, say is relevant to Nikon’s products or even photography in general. This forum rarely informs anyone of anything. It’s just a bunch of guys who have something in common talking about stuff. When people get together, the best result is entertainment and comaraderie. People like you, however, seem to think it’s a forum for you to display your intellect, knowledge of photo gear, and general superiority to those of us that make up the unwashed masses. When you post, I think it surprises you that the rest of us don’t bow down, praise you for the light of your brilliance, and beg for more pearls of wisdom. Even your posting name exposes your ego. You should go back and read your own posts. You’re an asshole! Better yet, get one of your friends to do it for you. Oh. Never mind. You don’t have any real friends, just like-minded individuals who are also preoccupied with congratulating themselves and each other for their wisdom.
Still I don’t see the relevance of your reactions… I guess there is more to the syndrome than being a clown.
Nature photographers use 50mm f/1.8 lenses?
According to the Nikon logic everything is possible:
We release a FX DSLR and a DX lens at the same time.
True, though it would probably be another 18-xx zoom ;~). But it’s already been verified that we’re getting another new 50mm f/1.8 FX lens with the camera, and that’s what the fellow in the videos is using.
Thinking back is there a time when you
Felt Nikon did a better job of product management, and overall distribution of many levels of equipment creation to many users?
Just curious, I think maybe late 80’s ? Or 2005ish?
There have been a number of times when I’ve felt that Nikon got all the basics right. The whole D3/D300 launch in 2007 was backed with very strong advertising and product management campaigns. They were able to drive that through a few other products as well at the same time.
Nikon also executes the dealer coop program in the US about as well as we’ve seen such programs perform, and it’s one of the reasons why they do so well in the US. Those ubiquitous yellow flyers drive people to stores, and for the most part they always have a theme that ties the Coolpix and DSLRs together (at times that’s been D-Movie, megapixel counts, focal length choice, etc.).
The Japanese management structure tends to guarantee that things will and do change, though. The constant promotion upwards into a manage-by-consensus team is a bit like the US Congress: it can get combative behind closed doors, is highly politicized, and you have this constant drift as different leaders temporarily emerge. When they fail, as with the D2h, they get quickly shoved aside and the drift goes another direction. There’s also the problem that all decisions eventually have to become Japan-controlled. Even when a subsidiary finds something that resonates–the D40 ad campaign comes to mind–if it didn’t originate in Japan it will eventually be controlled by Japan, and in most cases that hasn’t worked. For a global company, Nikon isn’t very global.
I see the spectrum of your scope, agreed the D3/D300/D700 period was a resurgence that was all encompassing.
I can see how the Japanese management of Nikon can be falsely democratic and undercutting in what should be done and is not done, or followed up on. Quick management shifts, I did follow your synopsis.
Thanks for replying.
What was wrong with D2H? For the time I owned it I thought it took nice pics. I bought a D200 after that though.
Over promise, under deliver, basically. The 4mp D2h ran into the 8mp 1D and all those that Nikon had won over with the early D1 thrust suddenly were headed back to Canon.
Including many Nikon shooters as well,
Nikon still hasn’t recovered from that era,
even considering how much better the D3 was
many didn’t return
Most professional colleagues of mine (we are all photographers) shoot Nikon and Hasselblad.
Not that many shoot Canon here in Montreal and in New York…
Not sure what Nikon needs to recover from…
I don’t agree. Just take a look a the rental houses here in NYC and it will be obvious Canon has it wrapped up, as for myself, a die hard Nikon shooter who has been forced to switch to Canon -temporarily- industry demand- and now back with Nikon (D800E)
Not die hard then. Nothing wrong with that, just sayin’
Maybe there is no logic or it’s a disco-pop-logic when good educated engineer from Japan who work maybe second generation on cameras but this time for public company with old name beeing hold by investors from other world and he must “design a camera” once every year to fullfill some poser “bestbuy nerd” or another poser armchair photographer or some free-internet-press camera “reviewer” or better “camera tester” who wants more megapixels and lock on mode-dial for perfect idiots becouse his emplyer, ammmazon wants more megapixels to push “new” product.
That depends on the …nature of the …nature!
If a Nikon takes a picture in the woods, and no one was there to chimp it …….
“This camera seems to be aimed at nature photographers”
Or those whose breath is taken away at the sight of two guys fishing in a stream, LOL.
Hmm, you might be on to something here, it is after all aimed at a specialty market: http://tinyurl.com/2dbmes
I don’t get it.
I was afraid some one would come out with this one :-)) let us hope our fellow doesn’t meet anyone with a banjo
Blah blah aimed at whoever propaganda….today there really isn’t such thing as a wildlife, sports or wedding DSLR. The lenses are what makes it fit. People are shooting sports, weddings, studio and wildlife on a D4 for example.
The D800E seems to be a better suiter based upon those requirements.
The new camera is certain to have an SD slot. CompactFlash is an obsolete format that the memory suppliers will stop supporting in the near future. SD cards have a more robust form factor, do not require easily damaged pins and are more than fast enough to keep up with 4K video so will have no difficulty with still pictures.
I have no idea why people fetishize a crap format. I have a dozen compactflash cards but I can’t imagine using my 4Mb cards from my Coolpix 950 ever again. Seriously, you can get a pair of 16Gb SD cards for $30 at CostCo.
You wrote SD instead of XQD by mistake. If not please google advantages of CF over SD.
Well for one reason I have many of them. Last one I bought for 300 Euro…
D700 users (like me)will only buy it, if their focus isn´t sports or fast objects (or children, btw. like mine.). Why should I downgrade fps and autofocus. And still I love the idea of a retro camera. Enjoing to ocuss manually now and then again take pictures of my childs doing sports is no contradiction. At least not to me.
I continue to sit and wait and squip that camera.
Still, I love the short-films and really enjoy them.
I’m with you. For my main work I use AF and a D700. My main focus is children. I used to work with MF lenses, but have had much better outcomes with AF. For my personal pictures, my more artistic endeavors, for travel, and just for the sheer joy of using manual focus again without constraints of any sort this camera seems to be a godsend.
It is in a leather like case. look at the close up with the hand on the camera. At the top of the body is “white metal”, below that the black of the camera body (a more neutral black, perhaps textured, painted metal), and below that is the case material which has more purple in the black. It does look retro and doesn’t look anything like a typical DSLR.
Damn, you’re right !
No it’s not!
If you download the video in HD, put it in a processing program and “freeze” to the frames that give you the best view… You’ll clearly see the card slot port! This is a naked body!
No, it’s not
Some people see naked bodies everywhere 😉
If you mean that it has a lens on it you are right.. It still has no cover on…
and I dont see any similarity to FM3
Looks like a D600…
in previous images, the view finder was bigger and had very sharp edges, but here the whole camera is just curvy as a modern Nikon DSLR. maybe its prototype
Jesus, edges look round, gonna look like the Nikon N60, yikes – i hope it is just the rolling shutter….zwickt’s mi, i man i tram
i $%^^*^# hope i am wrong
And in English?
You mean the last sentence above? Thats not quite german, to be precise, bavarian dialect- can be translated to: “Pinch me, i think i dream”
You are near :-)) That’ s slang from Vienna, a part of a text of a former famous austrian singer, named Wolfgang Ambros.
that is correct. dankta, alex. I am awake now.
i hope it was just a nightmare. i hope it hasn’t been designed by the same !&*% robot who did the Coolpix A
looking at the screen grabs, i am loosing hope,
gebts ma a bier, hell, a kisten bier,
going back to sleep
Rough translation from German: “lick my oily sensor.”
ahh… I thought it was some Scottish dialect or something. If I approach it as a Germanic dialect it does make sense.. tnx!
The far side of the camera, in the close up, is dropped much lower than the near side, so the leather case and near side of the camera are obstructing the view of the large, angular, viewfinder.
I too think there is a half case; the lens is not parallele to the body Lines we get to see. Now, in the case there is a case :-), then the body may actually be smallish. And the round surface that dismayed so many of us could be the case rather than a rubber grip
Maybe there’s several styles and Nikon is chumming the water, trying to discern which one will be the most accepted. They might think a lot is riding on this and are afraid to screw it up. Not very bold, but perhaps these days rather wise. The way people here talk about abandoning this camera for that camera (not to mention lens inventories!) and then back again… Why would any manufacturer trust them? Maybe all those “pros” out there have a single body, a couple low-end zooms and a lot of pictures of their dog. Easy then to be “loyal” to your flavor of the week.
That’s because it is the D400 but we all pretend it is ‘retro.’ Retro is a word used to describe every photographic machine that has been released in the last two years. It is now just a synonym for ‘new camera model.’
Yikes, someone with a brain on their shoulders. The moment the DF acquired a big handgrip it stopped being retro, except for people who think ‘retro’ means six years ago.
Would you consider the F4 Retro? Is 1988 to new?
What about the F3’s small grip? That’s 1980.
How about 1959’s Nikon F with motor-drive F-36?
When the F4 came out, did people claim it was retro? The F3? How about the F?
They were state of the art machines, offering full modularity.
This one has no modularity. You don’t remove the finder, the back, the base, to accessorize.
More importantly, they weren’t part of an effete “retro” fashion consciousness that the bored consumer, who just bought last year’s bestest camera, must now buy because last year’s camera was not retro enough.
Fashion being more important than images. Because we all know, the same pictures can be taken by any camera.
If it is a 1500 product you are right… but it has to be proved! …Actually I hope you are right, if only it doesn’t have an SD card slot. …Still a prediction turned to knowledge though. I would still treat it as like approaching a whore:
-Hello DF, do you offer me all the basics and nothing more? …it’s all I need.
-Do you have an XQD card slot?
Looks like it might be in a half case or has a grip.
Can there be any? …”Classic ergonomics” means “priority to the traditional (pure/classic) use”, not copying the ergonomics of cameras that have analog and mechanical in mind… Abandoning destructive functions from modern cameras that aim to make the user think that “it’s the camera that makes you a “photog”, …is a “going back to the roots” approach by definition.
The more I study the close up photo, the more I think it does look like a Nikon FM3 in a black, leather-like case. It even has the “white metal” section in the front that starts up at the angular prism box and goes down the whole front center of the body to support the lens mount.
that’s what she said…
Someone said it may be Greg Wise (I’m not convinced).
But he’s a pretty big guy.
Look at it in relation to the lens, the body looks small…
They went to a lot of trouble just to give the perfect partial-view. Next one will show just a tiny bit more. Based on these two, Video number 3 should be up Midnight monday, EST
Reminds of that Leica ad campaign. Let’s pray to Jebus this isn’t the Nikon version of the X-Vario.
Or the Hasselblad Lunar…
Look everyone, I have a selfie that makes me look a crazy-four-eyed-black-and-white-fisheyed-dork.
You’re pathetic. Sad little troll hiding behind your computer.
Ahahaha. He picked the name J. Pennis Thomas. That’s funny.
i hope the DF viewfinder is brighter than this john-thomas otherwise we are all dck’d
Apparently, you only have two relatives. Are you an orphan?
Can’t you guys play nice?
So far, four of your relatives voted you up.
Er… the last thing my relatives are worried about is giving me “likes” on a rumor forum. Some people just find wordplay jokes involving the word “Penis” very funny. Because it is.
Yeah… I’m getting a bad feeling about this.
I took a close snapshot:
Lookin’ gooooood! Still loving the shutter sound.
Looks to have one of those leather half cases like the Nikon SP. Old school.
You can also See some buttons around thr Lena in the very last frame .
Yes, the design of the buttons looks quite nice
I think this will be an interesting camera. Nikon is trying to create a niche in the market and time will tell if they’re successful. It has the same feel to me as all the musicians who are trying to get back to the analog sound. I hope it is great…
Most musicians worth their salt have never left analog. Nobody has ever been able to replicate the sound of a good tube amp.
You speak for everybody!
Nobody who works with electronic music cares. That’s why they’re making electronic music, to have a different sound. Most of them (myself included) have nothing against analog either.
Not sure why you’re making some sort of argument out of this.
I was speaking at it from a guitarists point of view.
People are entitled to speak their own opinions without you always jumping in to try to prove them wrong.
Well, you’re the one who said “most musicians worth their salt never left analog”, implying that those who did are somehow lesser musicians because of it. Hence my reply.
Are you this sensitive in real life?
This is real life, and I take your comments on face value.
That 50/1.8 is not looking too long – perhaps they did make it sort of pancake-ish.
Is that a lensbaby or are you just glad to see me?
White ring? that must be the aperture control ring. So solid metal 50mm f1.8 AF-S?
No, it’s a chrome ring and typically it’s the ring you grab to take the lens on or off the mount and it traditionally has the DOF scale on it too. The ring seems to be offset from the camera body as in there is a black section that could be the aperture ring which is also typically black.
I am damn glad to see it return. It was a great feature and I’ve missed it on the modern lenses. I hope they increase the size of the index bump so it is faster/easier to find in the dark.
Most classic AI-S lenses have a spacer ring (in aluminum) between the focus and aperture ring.
note the end of the video as well. it shows what the very front of the camera looks like as well as the AF-S 50mm f/1.8G and you can see two function buttons to the left of the lens and what looks like a screw on pc-sync cover similar to that on an F100 (small screw made of plastic with grooves emulating from the centre outwards) it looks like we will slowly get to see more and more of it in the videos to come! Exciting!
That lens makes this much more portable than a Sony A7 + 55mm 1.8 zeiss. Go figure. Now I’m waiting it to be under to 2k then I’ll cancel my pre-order
I checked out the A7 at PDN today. Sony had a brain fart on the placement of the shutter release button. It’s very awkward, your finger naturally want s to go where the grip is, which is where most grip cameras have them (like, ahem, their Nex 6/7), but instead it’s up on top of the body where it’s rather annoying to get to.
Strap with leatherrrr
I like the way Nikon is written in white letters on the back side of the strap, like on the standard strap for the FE2/FM3A
good bye canoooon HELLO NIKOOOOOOONMOMNOMNOMNOM
Not so fast. It is rumored to be “below the D610″, if it is true I don’t think it is worth to jump ship.
Damn! looks like it has a hand grip. I wish they’d use a classic body design if they’re going to make a retro camera.
The Nikon F3 has a tiny grip. Released in 1980 so I’d say at this point that’s somewhat retro.
That doesn’t look like a TINY grip to me. Looks like the grip on my D600…
in the last upscaled image, grip width is equal to that space between two fingers. check with your D600
I’m not entirely following you on that, but it looks big to me, like on my D600. However I certainly hope it’s merely some optical illusion and this thing has a smallish grip like an F3 at least. I would have preferred no grip at all, but that’s my personal taste for a true retro camera. I know many people like a grip on the body.
because of what I want this to be, I am going with the wide grip being a classic leather “neveready” case. Maybe. I hope.
I’m with you on this one. Unfortunately, the battery’s gotta go somewhere.
Battery? We want proper retro clockwork…
There will be no battery. Power will be provided by a capacitor, which is charged by pulling the “advance” lever. For example, to view the shooting menu, just pull the lever 4000 times while holding the MENU button.
I’m not saying it’s a tiny grip. It’s pretty damn hard to make any details out of that picture.
I’m saying that the F3 had a tiny grip but it’s still considered an old and hence “retro” camera.
That’s because these cameras where designed to be used with motordrives when they where used for action… Now, it’s different… Any camera with 6fps is capable of “action” if compared to the F3’s (fastest camera of 80’s) 6fps (doubtable), 36-38 images max. “buffer”….
Not to nitpick, but the F3 went up to 4.5-5FPS with the motor drive (depending on battery strength). The FM/FE could go 3 FPS with motor drive, IIRC. Funny how those specs seemed so impressive back then.
Agreed. I would have liked it to have been a bit more F2 or F3’ish in it’s styling. It doesn’t appear that it will be. Someone made a comment on the 1st video about how the guy’s fingers wrapped around indicated a substantial grip. Good observation, looks like he was spot on.
I think there is a small grip, but it looks plenty small. Just pulled out my D600, held it at the same angle and… this doesn’t look at all like the d600 grip.
My D600 grip covers the entire first knuckle when held that way. This barely covers the side of a finger. You are freaking out over nothing.
Yeah it could just be some illusion. I sincerely hope so. I just personally prefer a retro body with NO grip.
Not me. The grip helps a lot, and I’ll bet the designers used the room the grip provided to make the rest of the camera smaller. But we’ll see what they actually deliver.
Yeah it’s a personal preference. I spent decades working with cameras that had no grips, they’re nice, but for a retro camera I can do without it.
Exactly my thoughts.
I am hoping this doesn’t end up like the Chevy Volt, where expectations are set one way, but the production model ends up being something completely different (even if its still a great car/camera if expectations weren’t set the wrong way….)
Could someone capture the near end scene and bring up the brightness? There is a silhouette of the camera.
There we go.
Yes, they are smart enough to mask out the rest.
you dont say
I got pretty much the same results. They really did mask it.
An a canon user, it’s time for to think about joining nikon camp. That camera seems to be very interesting. Except 50/1.8g, any fast prime that deserves to be paired with this little monster?
That $3,000 price tag wouldn’t be so bad if they retrofied that new 58mm.
Nikon should also make a new retro 800mm f/5.6 with TC included.
I would put my Sigma 35 f1.4 on it but shhhhh… don’t tell Nikon.
that’s like putting a honda engine on a rolls royce.
At the moment, that’s the sharpest lens you can buy in F mount. And I happen to love the rendering.
honda engines aren’t bad…. You would kill the look though!
Engines go inside. Also sound too wouldnt suffer. Maybe vibration?. Don’t think so.
You really don’t know what you’re talking about, do you? Oh, don’t bother with a response 😉
So you’re saying it’s an improvement? Or do you not know anyone that’s ever owned a Rolls?
Any nikon prime can be paired up with this..that’s why nikon’s awesome
What? You’re tired about a company with a decent lineup of bodies and quality lenses that are actually affordable?
OK… the 85mm f1.4 and the 24mm f2.8d
Size matters but in this case for street photography smaller is better ladies
I’m honestly baffled by street photography and how popular it seems to be.
Most of the pictures I see I’m very underwhelmed by.
I’m with you on that. As soon as Fuji put out that X100 all the sudden everyone was a “street photographer”.
I’m kind of sick of hearing about it.
Looking at it in a statistical way, more cameras out there should mean more pictures taken, both good and bad…
and we are sick of those bloody ND waterfall pics and orange sunsets …so suck it up
Photography is like fishing or bowling…it doesn’t matter how good one is at it, the point for most people, except for the pros, is that it is a fun and creative hobby. That’s it.
Too many people judge by the quality of the final output. But if that’s the case then only the pro’s should play any sport, only the pro’s should paint, draw, write, or play music, etc.
The real value in all of these creative activities is the average person having fun and perhaps becoming a better person in the process. And out of that comes the few who create the truly great art.
I didn’t say anything about whether people are good or bad. I didn’t say that people shouldn’t engage in whatever photography they wanted to.
I simply said I was sick of hearing people calling themselves “street photographers”. As if being a “photographer” isn’t enough. They need to qualify it with “street”. As if that makes it somehow magical.
You really read WAY more into my comment than was there.
That’s what you get when some trolls have it in for you, people read your posts with a certain bias.
then whats a sports photographer, a landscape photographer, a police photographer, a pet photographer, a fine arts photographer, a portrait photographer, a wedding photographer, a press photographer, a macro photographer, an event photographer, a baby photographer, a forensic photographer, an aerial photographer, a wildlife photographer, an underwater photographer, a glamour photographer, a surf photographer, a real estate photographer, an industrial photographer, a commercial photographer, an environmental photographer, a documentary photographer, a travel photographer, an up-skirt photographer, an architectural photographer, a fashion photographer, a medical photographer. So what kind of photographer disses other photographers for what they love to do, a lousy photographer?
Where exactly did I “diss” another photographer for what they love to do?
You people sure like to like pigeonhole everything and you’re not happy unless you can argue semantics make up your own meanings and blow insignificant comments into some huge f’n deal.
Seriously why does EVERY comment on this sight have to end up as an argument?
What do you mean “you people” cuz I’m black?
Oh, I see. I offended you because you are a self-professed “street” photographer.
Nobody “dissed” you son. You can stop sulking now.
have to agree,some pompous self righteous cock splashes on here,think they invented the wheel the way they carry on….yes it’s cause i iz black…knob
I’m surprised that all the geniuses here don’t band together and create their own camera brand. They seem to know EXACTLY what the perfect camera should be.
It seems to be a hipster thing. When they figured out their polaroids were bloody expensive to shoot and the Lomo thing got tired fast they got X100 and started street photography?
The key isn’t how good the photos are, unless one is a pro. Most people are not and so sure, most of the people doing street photography these days are not turning out high quality images.
But that doesn’t matter. What matters is that they are enjoying photography. What matters is that they are in the moment, and that photography is teaching them how to better see and appreciate the beauty of everyday life. What matters is that their family or friends may find value in some of the images, if only because they are taken by someone they know and care about.
That’s what photography is all about for most people, not being the next HCB. And even HCB had to go through a phase of learning, where most of his images were not so great. And even when he got great, many of his images were not so good, it’s just that we never got to see them.
Well said! Bravo!
Yet… D4’s sensor is the best and most “balanced” sensor in the market today… At least for those that have some experience with it…
If it would help, I can tell you that D4 beats D3X in anything (detail resolution included) at base Iso… and it’s “in a class of its own” above Iso400 when compared with anything in the market!
And what’s Hachibi got to do with street photography?!
Oops wrong thread. 😡
You know, I agree with you entirely but for some reason, a lot of the people here are really angry. I mean, all the time. Not you and me of course… 😉
street photography is the wannabe journalist photography at home.
This is a pretty ignorant statement; especially following the post by “One More Thought.”
Well, if you can’t travel where the “real action” is happening you can always get out to the streets and capture candid moments of people going about their everyday life. How is this ignorant? Would you rather be shooting current events around the world? or the Sunday after noon jazz player who performs around your corner?
I guess I don’t get wedding photography. I mean half those people are gonna get divorced anyway.
Hmmm, now there’s an unexplored photographic opportunity…
Very true lol…
Divorce Photography is far more lucrative.
Perhaps wedding photographers should start offering special packages:
Wedding plus Divorce
Wedding plus Divorce plus Second Wedding
I like to do both actually. I travel a few months out of the year, but the rest of the time I do street / documentary photography in my city. You can get images in a city that you know intimately that you would be unable to get while traveling. I see plenty of “action” in my home city. It is on of the most racially segregated cities in the country, and has very high rates of poverty, teen pregnancy, homelessness, etc. There are LOTS of interesting things to see if you know where to look. Some of my photos are actually being used in conjunction with demographic data currently to educated city legislators and to advocate for policy change to help undeserved areas of town.
Aldo you really need to stop posting without thinking ! And if you are not…. well then it’s a bummer for us all (you included)
you of all people…says this?
you make it sound like we’ve known each other for years…. and would love you to give me the links to some of my post that made you say that..
I tell you what. We are not gonna pollute this blog with more arguments on who post the dumbest comments cause no one cares about that so if you really want to keep this up i’ll give you my email address ok ? (and I hope you don’t)
But in the mean time i’m gonna keep getting exited by that New NIKON body
Comon Admin keep posting those infos !!!
hahaha ok that’s just who you are I guess i’m not the only one complaining about your comments
there are seven billion people in this world.
yea but we all hate cockroaches
you just can’t kill them all… so I let them be… just as long as they don’t come in my house
I’ll let you enjoy your moment… you are too easy.
I would say it is correct but without the negative attitude the post reflects. In fact it is a very good platform for common people to be creative and develop journalistic attitude.
If some get offended it’s because my comment has merit… didn’t mean it to be offensive though. I tease all branches of photography… I can also take the heat when my own branch is criticized and don’t go crying like a little b… boy.
you tease all branches of photography …WTF.
that’s right. I recall teasing bird shooters not too long ago 😛
what have in common streret photography and plural differential equations? and what do you do with plural differential equations? you solve them? for what? math is a language same as photography… stating “street photography is the wannabe journalist photography at home” is like stating “solving plural differential equations is the wannabe nasa physicists at home”.
You all are taking Aldo’s comments way to seriously. Everyone needs to lighten up. He can be pretty funny.
…way too seriously.
Yeah i guess im scoring low on the funny meter today… but the comment below is true… dont take things too seriously… you’ll get old faster… the whole equation thing was a reply to the person calling moron for not knowing street photographers.
True that. +1
yeah like steve mccurry and hcb, koudelka, frank… but you don’t know them moron
well, are you a moron because you can’t solve plural differential equations?
I guess I’m a moron…
If you wanted to sound smart by using “plural” instead of “multiple” or “many”, i’ll just let you know you didn’t sound smart. You sounded like a 5 year old that just read a word in the dictionary and is now showing off to his friends by using it.
And if you thought that “plural differential equations” existed in the mathematical world as a thing, i’ll also let you know that they don’t.
Now stop posting nonsensical things.
You just made my point. Just because you dont know what a plural differential equation is… it does’t mean you are a moron. Or are you?
First of all, why exactly did you delete your comment to which i replied?
Second of all, I apologize if i sounded like a moron. I am no pro photog as you probably are yourself.
That being said, I studied engineering, and no, i haven’t heard of anything even remotely similar to a “plural differential equation”.
So unless you are using a very advanced form of humor which i do not understand, i really don’t get what you are talking about.
I like looking at street photography images and respect those few who do it well.
I just don’t like doing it very much.
For me street photography is not only about the end result; it’s also about the challenge of capturing ANY result. Street photography can be incredibly hard, especially for the 20% of us who have severe anxiety. I do street photography for the challenge, to interact with my environment, and to meet new people. I love capturing life as it happens; capturing both the good and the bad. It brings a different fulfillment than other types of photography I have done.
are you excited about the new Nikon Harvey? Looks big enough for us both to hide behind (grin).
This is a good post Harvey. I’m not really into street photography that much because I find it tough to get inspired by the act of taking mundane everyday happenings around town and trying to make a captivating photo out of them.
I think that a lot of street photography is not to my liking….boring subjects still end up being boring to me. On the other hand there are a handful of very talented street photographers who are able to make a very engaging emotional photos out of those mundane things….those I appreciate and can see the talent in.
But your post is true…it’s one of the harder types of photography IMO to really get right.
The reason you are underwhelmed by most SP photos is that SP is the most difficult form of photography and most people are only going to get good shots rarely and by chance.
No form of photography is easy, if done at the highest level, but street is a little bit harder. Also, it helps to know a few things about its history.
What does the voice say ?
One great shot rewards everything?
I just jizzed in my pants. Please, stop posting this videos (don’t).
…Do you mean THESE videos?
So. What do we know by the lens flash at the end? It’s 50 1.8 AF-S. The camera auto focuses. It has a DOF preview button and a Fn button. So far, not so retro in that regard. The body seems to have a taller grip than the F2/3. More like a D700/800. So far, so interesting.
The camera body seems to have design similar to an Olympus E-M1 and the lens looks almost like a Pentax Limited lens. Not too bad. I actually like these videos quite a lot, but then I am also very well aware of that marketing has very little to do with the product itself. Let’s hope for the best. Not much else one can do right now.
These videos are very sophisticated camera porn strip tease. One peek at a time.
And sure it teases, but does it have inner beauty too? Time will tell.
typical ridiculous marketing… playing theatre like woman before losing virginity …. 😀
But yes, i am curious what the heck it will be…
yeah as if they are going all out on this camera… we already know it has a bunch of recycled stuff.
Using some parts similar to those on other models allows the price to remain lower than if all new parts were designed. I’m curious whether the shutter speed dial is similar to any previous Nikon.
Lets hope you are right and the price is lower than the d600.
My guess is that the body only price will be slightly higher than the D610. Another possible launch choice would be selling it only with the new 50mm in a kit, which I think would be a mistake. Just as with many recent Nikon product launches, the price will decline slightly over the next 12 months after launch. In other words, if it is slightly too high a price, then simply wait a few months.
I sincerely hope that’s a lens hood on that “1.8”…
Pancake-like lens then?
Hey dude just move your hand to the right a bit…bit more. Oh and cheer up or did you just get dumped?
This angle makes it look like a D3200 or something.
Shape looks like that of 1.2.
Dear Nikon, please make 35/1.8g retro version…..please
it already is
35/1.8G FX retro —- Which one?
I use a 35mm AF-D f2.0. It’s quite good. And it’s retro
Obviously you don’t use lenses in other than f8…. So, another one can claim… “no! …it’s bad!” …then you would be both right.
35mm F/2 AFD is fine wide open in the center where it counts. It’s an older design and less corrected than the newest (and more expensive), but for environmental portraits it’s perfectly fine. It certainly performs as well or better than the 50mm f/1.8 D that everyone raves about. For a fast 35mm, it’s very affordable. If you want super duper edge to edge sharpness wide open, there’s Zeiss at 3X the price. Otherwise, then use any lens at f/5.6 or smaller with a tripod and you’ll get sharp. Kind of pointless otherwise to complain.
Why not 35mm f1.7…? It would cost the same! Judging from the 28/1.8 price, it would be cheaper than that too…
SPECS dag nab it! Give us the SPECS! I’m delaying my 610 purchase for this thing, give me my dag nab it CAMERA SPECS so I can make a system choice that will be irrelevant in a year!
It is black.
Can be used to take photos, but must have a lens.
Some people will use the optional camera strap.
I have to buy a lens, too? Whatever, I’m getting an iFoney.
If it actually looks retro like FM2 or F3, then I have to start to look for leather half-case and leather neck strap.
If you’re lucky, it might come with one
The closer this gets to disclosure, the shìttier it starts to look…
No. Just means the hype has built up too much. All these expectations and wants and hopes…. 90% of the people here will be disappointed in some way. Not because it’s a bad product, but because they thought it was going to be something else or do something else. Guaranteed.
Correct. The foreplay to the D800 was similar. So many “I want…” , “I need…” “it better have__or I’m going to…” With the little we’ve seen of what is probably a prototype its pretty difficult to make any judgement. Maybe it is a pos or maybe photography will never be same. Who the ftuk knows? The suspense has been fun though.
It better have a shutter or I ain’t buying it.
You never know. Back in the early seventies I was shooting a documentary about LandSat’ a satellite taking pictures of earth. Every square inch. When the guy in charge told me the prints I was looking at didn’t involve film, I didn’t believe him. He kept saying something about digital. I thought he was full of shit. Still do. Maybe it won’t have a shutter.
Then I ain’t buyin’ it!!!
The first time I saw a digital imaging sensor was at a solar observatory. It wasn’t even enclosed in a box. Just wide open. Of course it was calibrated for wavelengths outside of the visual spectrum. It was a huge CCD chip. Probably cost millions at the time.
Yeah, but it’s Nikon building that hype, or that hope, depending on how you look at it.
I’m with you. The angles revealed in this video make it look like a D3200 or something.
Hey, don’t offend my humble D40!
Is it in a leather case obscuring the shape of the camera?
Let’s hope it’s in a leather case.
WOW, I know the location (15 minute walk from the house) and date of the filming of this video. I wished I had gone down the river to see them filming. The guys fishing in the river refused to say anything about the camera. Damn, I could have been one of the guys in the video.
what a pity.. give them some money and make them talk
Cool story. When were they filming?
10th of September this year they filmed it. Quick turnaround?
I was curious how long between marketing start and launch.
Not only to understand the mind of Nikon, but product marketing is my day job too.
River Almond, Edinburgh. Urban river.
Teaser #3 is the camp fire scene based on a thumbnail of the already uploaded but locked video in a Chinese video sharing site.
Amazing. How the hell did you find that?
Nikon China uploaded teaser #2 and #3 on Friday and have them locked out for public viewing. But there are enough metadata about both teasers there.
Maybe #3 will release midnight Saturday?
will we see the tripod at teaser #3? and then the jeep at #4?
(then maybe he’ll get back to the wife at #5 … and beautiful dream’s over… :/)
Nice! Thanks for this – it even shows more of it!
Great looking camera.
how can you watch it? password?
A friend of mine comments that the camp fire scene implies low light performance of the DF.
But Matt Granger in his YouTube video pointed out that the ISO range is smaller than the D4.
Matt Granger also thinks the 1×1 crop mode is for “Instagram maybe.” What a dope.
Do you really believe that the guy shoots with the new DF? I think that the new camera and these videos have nothing to do with each other.
Of course not! Its a video ’bout Nikons new CEO’s hobby.
If I were him, I would stop taking photos, and call for help since I get lost in the jungle.
Since the other movie was also shot in nature…..i’d say the camera has gps
Pure photography doesn’t include GPS.
…and they certinaly don’t eat quiche!
But it includes digital?
You just don’t know it yet.
Probably, but can it use film?
No because that’s not pure… It uses daguerrotypes!!!
I get it, that’s why the speaker voice says “one great shot”
Bah, you kids and your daguerrotypes. If you aren’t using a camera obscura and a pencil, you’re cheating…
Why the hell not, it’s just a couple lines in the meta data, no more obtrusive or complicated than exif and lens-correction data etc. but just as useful. Just because one wants pure minimalistic operation doesn’t mean it can only use tech from the stone-age ..
If I read the tea leaves properly, “real photographers” don’t need GPS to know where they are….;-)
“Need” ? Real photographers already have a camera and don’t need a new one in the first place ?
MJr: Is that the one that uses film?
no they buy one from Garmin
much more useful than the Nikon gps in my
which is worthless(the GPS not the camera)
In-camera GPS only tells you where you are, NOT where you want to GO.
Buy the Garmin GPS.
Remember it has a weak battery. Not sure if I would like to have it drained by a GPS module.
I make all my images by banging two stones together. No one needs more technology, and anyone who does is not a true artist, but a hipster poseur.
I make my own camera by calling Chuck Norris. He just blinks with his eyes and the whole earth stands still and spits out a photograph of the scene for me.
Besides… the body does not look thin and retro like FM2… its still looks digital age
“They didn’t have forks and knives in Medieval Times, but they had Pepsi?”
This retro camera better have GPS and 51 focus points or I’m switching to Canon.
GPS, bit spoilt aren’t we?
I want a lever wind or I won’t consider it retro….
I’m sorry i didn’t mean GPS….I meant a compass. That would make it retro!!!
He’s in Scotland. There are no jungles in Scotland, you idiot.
Felt like I was watching The Walking Dead…
this is my version http://i.imgur.com/6hx1KnK.jpg
Best post about this shit ever
Have you noticed in Teaser #2 there’s not just the lens shown at the end of the video but some of the camera’s controls on the front plate can be seen also.
I was just trying to nail that in the video but to no avail :/
Slightly tough to see at the beginning of the video, but the multi selector appears to be D800 sized. Right side camera strap eyelet is angled like on many other Nikons. Silver on the lens is just like the mounting rings of older AI and AIS lenses. Lens length seems similar to a 50mm f2.0 long barrel AI lens. No apparent command dial on the front of the grip, though an indent on the back may be a rear command dial. Helps to go frame by frame on a crisp monitor. 😉
This “sadly” looks very much like a regular DSLR! Really hope that Nikon will make this not so anonymously! Make as it actually looks like it has some thing to say – give it just a little more “edges” than others. – crossing my fingers! And f#*k this interesting to follow! Cheers NR
finally the campaign for the d610 is here
I don’t like this video as much.
They overplay the stumbling around with overacting and exaggerated sounds.
why are you guys so excited? It is another DSLR-shape camera. Only specialty is that it seems smaller. The rest look like typical DSLR, frankly speaking.
Yeah, that’s what I’m seeing. I hope we’re both wrong.
Well, at least I initially thought it could have been a digital version of the Nikon FM/FE/FE2/FM2/FM3A.
I’m intrigued by the aperture control. Shouldn’t the camera have a faux aperture ring at the mount, to give that old feeling? Thus making G lenses into classical ones? Isn’t that what he is holding on to with his dexter and thumb?
One could hope so
What would be the point of fake aperture ring if you can’t see what the setting is?
He could see it in the viewfinder. To me it’s clear that he is holding on to an aperture ring. He’s in aperture priority mode, and he wants to be able to immediately control the DOF, once he sees the shot.
Then it could stay as it is on normal DSLRs via a wheel if you still need to see what you’re setting. Whole beauty of aperture ring on a lens is to preset, per focus using DOF scale and be ready. Moving a wheel from place A to place B is just that. Maybe I’m old school but that’s how I shoot, I want to clearly see what my settings are and I set everything based on the current light and situation.
front bit has two function buttons and some kind of lever button up right. maybe the next video will show the grip.
Thanks Guasch, that’s the best screen grab of that part so far.
That may not be a button at all.
An AF assist light, maybe?
Yeah that could be.
And if it has the D600 focusing system, it better be a mini-searchlight 😉
I get pretty much the same results as Jeff Curtner – but his is clearer.
OH didnt notice somebody already did a screen grab. sorry.
Nobody posted the raw grab until now. And Jeff’s was kind of unbelievable, but I duplicated his results almost exactly.
Pure Photography? Have we been fooled all the time?
Wonderful! You remember the movie Blowup? Was there a murder or not?
WHAT STRAP IS THAT?? http://i.imgur.com/fyHeMFm.jpg
new nikon strap
Simple, basic low profile strap, no large yellow text screaming at you the model name and the fact the camera hanging on it is made by Nikon in large letters on both sides.
Really like the new strap.
Still too loud, but easy to fix with a Sharpie.
I wonder what kind of bag he is carrying, Billingham?
Buzz is working Nikon. I am not sure if this means anything but in the second ad at 25 and 26 seconds I hit pause and read the lens, it appears to be a lens with 1:1.8G on the left side and AF-S Nikkor on the other, that seems like a full frame lens to me.
yes, it’s a special edition 50mm f/1.8G as already mentioned on NR
Wait a minute..Could this be a one lens pony? Just a 50mm 1.8 and only a single lens Camera like Fuji Did…Oh My…Did I discover this..has anyone else talked about this?
I haven’t heard anyone propose that.
I hope you’re wrong tho because I dream of shooting my other lenses on it.
just wondering way out loud..of what i seen in Japan..on a website…
デジタルカメラのニュースとホットな情報をお届けするブログです ニコンのフルサイズレトロスタイル一眼の名称は「Nikon DF」”Digital Fusio..
The name of the full-size retro style single-lens Nikon is a blog to deliver the information and hot news of digital camera “Nikon DF” “Digital Fusio
First language Japanese speaker here! the characters 一眼 (ichi gan) are the short form for 一眼レフ (ichi gan refu) which is in turn the colloquial term for ‘Single Lens Reflex’, not “single-lens” as google translate would lead you to believe
The mount was not clear at the beginning, but then the rumors pointed to a regular F-mount. The fact that the mount was not known at the beginning bothers me a little bit.
we can see the lens removable button in the front of the camera, the button that one has to press to remove the lens.
It’s possible because at the beginning nobody could tell me the mount of the new camera. Let me check again.
No fixed lens, I just confirmed again. F-mount.
Really Nikons commercials sucks!!!!
So does Canons by the way.
The 50 mm looks pretty big ,or the camera is very small?
If it’s true that it’s Greg Wise – and I’m not at all sure – he’s a pretty big guy.
Forget about digital FM or F3, it looks like another boring dslr with huge grip, buttons and menus. nikon made the same mistake as olympus.
Never mind. Film is still being made. I have two recently serviced FE2:s with new light seals and three FM3A:s. Maybe I will just forget about the whole DF thing.
I see a commercial in which an actor pretends to be a homeless person lost in the woods.
Therefore, I want to buy this camera, it being capable of taking the same pictures as any other camera, but purer.
How dare they cut off Chopin’s Raindrop like that!
Oh, I see. “DF” for D-Flat major. Clever.
This dude looks like he should be sipping a cappuccino in a trendy cafe not walking in the woods. Also, A better scene would be “Impure Photography” and he comes across two nude women bathing. Finally, If some creepy dude was in the woods taking a picture of me while I was fly fishing I think I’d roll cast him in the jaw.
That’s because the ad company that produced this got inside our heads, and now they know the target market. The target market is metrosexual hipsters who fantasize being crafty outdoorsman taking cliche pictures while millions of people sit at home and watch them on their PC.
The drama: Lost in the forest, the protagonist comes upon grown men casting their long poles in the river. He gasps; will he be able to capture the men’s long poles with his new, little box?
Those fisherman are doing their best to ignore him. They’re sick of it. Every nancy boy who bought one of those stupid Nikons is now creeping through the woods, sneaking pictures of each other and of fisherman, fantasizing that they are as silent as the wolf.
The sheriff has put up notices cautioning hikers to keep a look out for wandering retrosexuals, explaining that although alarming they are harmless.
This whole post is a riot. I live in Manhattan and you usually see these types coming in from parts of Brooklyn with their tiny trendy cameras. I have nothing against them but the stereotypes are hilarious.
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