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New Nikon patents for 50mm f/1.2 and 60mm f/1.2 lenses

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Nikon 50mm f/1.2 lens patent

Nikon 50mm f/1.2 lens patent

Nikon 60mm f/1.2 lens patent

Nikon 60mm f/1.2 lens patent

Nikon filed another patent in Japan for a 50mm f/1.2 and 60mm f/1.2 lenses. The 50mm f/1.2 lens (and different variations of it) has been the most patented Nikkor lens in the past few years - here are some of the related patents filed in the past:

Compared to previous patents, the latest filing has calculations for optimized/reduced lens ghost and lens flare.

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  • reebert

    start saving!

  • Eric Calabos

    Just Do It

  • King of Swaziland

    Said it before, I’ll say it again.

    Crap, or get off the pot.

    Of course, Nikon seems to like hanging out on the toilet instead of selling product.

  • Don

    I’m happy to wait for the lens while they reduce flare and CA. Can’t wait for it, though!

  • longzoom

    They should do it now, before Sigma 24-70/2 OS…

    • http://nikonrumors.com/ Nikon Rumors
      • longzoom

        That is what I am talking about. THX!

    • Aldo

      even canon made a second 24-70… ‘though it doesn’t have IS…. nikon is falling behind.

      • Remedy

        The thing is Nikkor 24-70 f/2.8 is a spectacular lens. It’s not like it needs a refreshment.

        • SillyMe

          It’s a spectacular lens but surprisingly fragile.

          • Remedy

            Well I can’t tell, never droped or damaged one.

            • SillyMe

              Never dropped it too or damaged it too but mine hasn’t reached 2 years and the rubber rings were already loose and even the black paint on the nameplate got peelings. Heard it snaps into two too if it suffers a major drop supposedly for easier and lesser repair cost. But it is a very spectacular lens with very fast AF and I love it for that.

            • An anounimous photographer

              I’ve mine dropped neither. But I’ve slammed into many things with it, from a riot police shield, to my colleagues heads, it got so many times hit in busy crowds during demonstrations that I lost count, but nothing to it. The only thing which I replaced already twice is the rubber zoom ring. This lens is made for action and press photography and the image quality and focus speed are very impressive.

            • Aldo

              bought the ring from nikon for 7.99 and 30 dollars shipping.

        • patto01

          Due to health problems, I can’t hold my camera that still. As much as I’d like to have one, I couldn’t justify buying a 24-70 when I would only be able to use it on a tripod. For me, VR is a necessity.

          • Aldo

            I’m sure you are not alone… But even those with sniper-steady hands can get motion blurred shots with the D800. Especially when you are chained to a 250 sync shutter speed.

        • Shingo

          The Nikkor 24-70 f/2.8 is a good lens not spectacula. It doesn’t need refreshment right now, but it will soon. It’s losing ground to cometition from Tamron and Canon.

          • Aldo

            Agreed. I mean it is the “to go” lens for many photographers… why not make a VR version?

            • Remedy

              Size maybe? I mean the current version is already kinda ginormous. Or maybe they didn’t feel like it’s essential in this kind of lens. Canon didn’t do it either with their brand new 24-70 f/2.8 II so… there is a valid reason I assume. Altho Tamron proved it can be done, and it can be done well.

            • Aldo

              you are right… the lens is already heavy… adding some grams to get VR as a trade off is negligible.

          • Remedy

            Vignettes less than many primes, in terms of sharpness and AF speed/accuracy it beats the crap out of 95% of the primes. It has great contrast and colors. I call that pretty spectacular.

            • Shingo

              >> in terms of sharpness and AF speed/accuracy it beats the crap out of 95% of the primes.

              You obviously don’t own any of the the G primes.

              >> It has great contrast and colors.

              Not compared to the 24, 35 and 85.

        • Aldo

          In many real world scenarios… when used with the d800… the 24-70 could use VR. This would also make it more attractive for video. A 24-70 VR could stand alongside with the current version, or it can replace it. It is the choice of the user.

      • Tharizdun

        Canon’s version has 82mm filter diameter; they can’t make it as small as Nikon (77mm), so they widen the diameter-that’s a cop-out.. Sigma does the same. I think they’re losing the battle…

        • Aldo

          The second version of the canon is the sharpest of them all, not even close to losing the battle.

          • Remedy

            Sharpest according to whom? From what I’ve seen it’s marginally sharper than the old one and not all that impressive. I wouldn’t even think of paying twice the price of the old one which was a good lens.

            • Dpablo unfiltered

              I heard the old 28-70 was the better lens.

            • Aldo

              according to all who do testing on them… look it up.

      • longzoom

        I don’t think so today, but tendency is not very promising, true…

    • zoetmb

      You do know it takes 2-3 years to develop a lens, right?

      • longzoom

        I know, for sure, it is already developed. Financial situation and underestimation of competitors what is Achilles hill of Nikon.

  • CRB

    Patents….lol, still waiting to see that 24mm DX (2.0 or even 2.8) seeing the light of the day…Nikon gave up on primes for DX users…i still see no point in using a small camera like a D5200 with big zooms..of course, its just me…

    • nathan

      who cares about dx

      • nathan

        dx lenses suck!

        • Remedy

          Try Sigma 18-35 f/1.8 and tell me how much it sux. Or the 10-20 or the 8-16 or Tokina 11-16 f/2.8. Yeah, that’s what I thought.

      • wilde

        We do

      • George Kalogeris

        Have you tried the DX AF-S 35mm on your FF camera with auto vignette control ?
        I get superb results

      • CRB

        Clearly not Nikon…

  • Fred Flintstone

    I got hold of the patent but could not mount it on the front of my camera, silly me!

    • David K

      Well Fred, you can always use your old “Polarock” camera. The one with the bird inside that carves the picture with his beak.

      • Fred Flintstone

        Nikon are still upset they didn’t patent that

  • questioning

    Where’s the innovation here? Why is a patent necessary every time an engineer prints a sketch?

  • Julian

    The Nikkor 50mm f/1.4G is certainly not the strongest 50mm, its an OK lens but I can’t help feeling they could have / should have done better – so here’s hoping on some improvements sometime in the near future.

    • http://www.flickr.com/photos/monteraz/ Monteraz

      Its not just an OK lens and it is as good as any other 50 1,4 or better, bokeh is so cool and resolution is good, maybe the lack is in the other side of the camera.

      • Julian

        I never claimed to be the worlds best photographer… but with my 50 I find the autofocus is slow compared to my other lenses – both on my D3 and on my D800. I also find the lens very prone to glare – more so than my other lenses. In the right shooting conditions – its a good lens – but not in all conditions for me.

        • jk

          do you use any kind of lens filter?
          if so take it off then the 50 f1.4g seldom flares.

          • Julian

            No filters at all on my 50.

        • saywhatuwill

          My 400mm f/5.6 Ai-S lens doesn’t even have autofocus so I need to envy your slow 50mm AF speed. However, the 400 is fast enough to capture a Formula One car coming at me or the space shuttle taking off.

        • http://micahmedia.com/ Micah

          It’ll ghost, but rarely flare. And it’s more resistant to ghosting than the previous version. And it’s true, some ghosting only happens with a filter on it, even a good one. I have had a lot of luck with the Hoya HD filters not ghosting. They are not HD, but they are very tough and the anti-reflection coating works the best I’ve seen any work.

          And it’s slow to acquire focus, but once it’s acquired, it tracks just as fast as any of the others. At least in continuous focus mode. If you’re trying to track with repeatedly focusing in single servo mode, sure, it won’t work. And forget about live view.

      • Shingo

        >> maybe the lack is in the other side of the camera.

        No, the lack is in the fact that it is not up to par with the 24, 35 and 85 1.4G lenses.

        • jk

          well, optically the 50f1.4AFS is a bit better lens than the 35mm f1.4G , the 85mm f1.4G is a better lens than both the 50mmf1.4G and the 35mmf1.4G but it is also a lot heavier than the 50mm f1.4G.
          in fact , sadly though, we have to admit nothing in this range Nikon/Sony/Canon/Zeiss make beats the Sigma 35mm f1.4, I think Zeiss /Nikon Canon Sony all need to update their respective 35mm f1.4 lens.
          as for 24mm , in fact the cheap Samyang 24mm f1.4 beats both the expensive Nikon G and the Sony Zeiss.
          but I am sure the 85mm f1.4G is one of the best Nikon primes.

          • Shingo

            >> optically the 50f1.4AFS is a bit better lens than the 35mm f1.4G

            I disagree. I have both and the 35mm f1.4G is superior to the 50.

            Of course the 85 is heavier – it’s a longer lens. What’s your point?

            While the Sigma 35mm f1.4 is outstanding, it’s not that big a deal that I would replace my Nikon with it. The Nikon 35 1.4 is superb.

            >> as for 24mm , in fact the cheap Samyang 24mm f1.4 beats both the expensive Nikon G

            No ti doesn’t and it doesn’t even have AF.

        • http://www.flickr.com/photos/monteraz/ Monteraz

          Well, when I want a luminous wide, I use the 28 1,8 G, when I want a luminous tele, I use the 105 f/2 DC, and when I want a fast standar, 1,4 G is my choice, all of them outperforms me, I dont need to spend $1000 more, and I have seen terryfic shots with the 50 1,4 G. Thats enough for me. If you have the ability to discriminate that the 50 1,4G is not up to par to the 35 1,4G, congrats, you play in another league, then I truly want a link to your body of work to enjoy it.

          • Shingo

            Like I said, the 50 1,4 G is adequate, and I have taken great shots with it, but it’s still below the par of other G primes.

            • http://www.flickr.com/photos/monteraz/ Monteraz

              Okay, another internet blablabla, and another lack on the side of the camera.

        • saywhatuwill

          “No, the lack is in the fact that it is not up to par with the 24, 35 and 85 1.4G lenses.”

          Not sure if you looked at the prices but there’s a huge disparity there.

          • Shingo

            >> Not sure if you looked at the prices but there’s a huge disparity there.

            Completely irrelevant. We’re not discussing budget solutions, we’re discussing disparity in quality.

          • El Aura

            See, the 50 mm f/1.4 G is not up to par with the price level of Nikon’s other f/1.4 lenses.

      • jvuu

        You’ve never touched the leica 50 1.4 then..

      • Can’t Believe It

        I don’t know about you guys, but my 50 1.4G is TOO sharp. When I shoot portraits I have to use a Tiffen Soft FX1 filter to cut some of the reality. If I don’t, I have to spend an hour on retouching.

    • Remedy

      Well it certainly is better than 50mm f/1.4D and even that old one was beating the competition so…
      Ofc it’s not super sharp wide open, ofc it’s not least vignetting lens and not the fastest in terms of AF but it still is a fantastic lens. You got 1.4 when You need it and when You stop to f2 it’s razor sharp and when you stop even further it’s ridiculously sharp (f4 onwards).
      I love it for it’s AF in low light, even with a dated AF system of D90 it focuses in very, very, very low light situations. Sure Sigma 50mm f/1.4 is better in many aspects and I would love to get one but I can’t convince myself to sell my 50mm G. It’s just doing it’s job well, really well!

    • jk

      actually the 50f1.4G is a very sharp lens from f2 and onward, but it is not extremely sharp at f1.4 and maybe f1.6.
      but I think most of 50mm f1.4′s from any make are worse than this lens , only two really serious issues of the 50f1.4 AF-S are its poor CA control from f1.4-f2 range and a bit pronounced barrel distortion in close focus distance.
      the 50f1.4G is not a good lens for portrait or product shot but it is a quite good landscape lowlight event lens, definitely better than the Zeiss 50mmf1.4 ,which I also own , the Canon 50mmf1.4 or the old Sony 50mmf1.4,which I used own.
      only one 50mm f1.4 lens that clearly beats the Nikon G is the new Sony Zeiss 50mmf1.4ZASSM.

      • http://micahmedia.com/ Micah

        Can you please show us a portrait or product shot that the distortion or CA ruined?

    • jvuu

      You’ve never touched the leica 50 1.4 then….

  • tertius_decimus

    Lots of patents, none of lenses. Where’s that long awaited AF-S 50 mm f1.2 G?

    • longzoom

      55-58/1.2, I believe, otherwise, new 50/1.2 and existed 35/1.4 may kill each other.

      • tertius_decimus

        AF-S 35 mm f1.4 G is killed already by Sigma.

        • outkasted

          It sure has and I GOT MINE! Look out for the Sigma announcement tomorrow.

        • longzoom

          But it will be the last nail in the coffin… Ponimaete li… Vot kak!

          • tertius_decimus

            Strange, but…

            Nikon is famous for making extremely good cheapo lenses like DX 35 mm f1.8 G and FX AF-S 50 mm f1.8 G. On the other hand, Nikon is lagging behind in higher spec areas. As Sigma proves, it is possible to build awesome lens and not charging an arm and a leg for it. Why Nikon can’t do the same?

            • longzoom

              For the very simple reason – they selling the NAME! So, put less, take more!

    • jk

      I prefer 58mm or 60mm f1.2 over 50mm f1.2, a typical 50mm is a bit too wide for me for walk around since I shoot people or flowers most of times.

  • jk

    is the 60f1.2 a FX lens or a CX?

  • Joseph Li

    My wallet is burning for a 50mm that is as good as 85mm f/1.4G (AF lenses only), now that the Sigma 35mm f/1.4 replaced the spot for Nikon 1.4G in my bag. Get your sh#t together Nikon, release the f/1.2 before Sigma does it before you for half the price

  • Optic Olly

    60mm/1.2 not in an F mount.
    Can’t be done.
    There just ain’t the room for the rear element.

    • Meinrad

      It can be done! The size of the rear element is only defined by the distance of the rear lens to the sensor plane, and by the opening. Focal length is not a variable in calculating “marginal ray angle”.

  • jay

    make a new 50mm already! get with it nikon!

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