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Phottix BG-D800 battery grip for Nikon D800/E now available

Phottix now has their new BG-D800 battery grip for Nikon D800/D800E DSLR cameras available for sale ($145):

"Phottix Premium Series BG-D800 Battery Grip for Nikon D800 DSLR features AF/On button, command dials, vertical shutter button and multifunction controller. The BG-D800 holds 8 AA batteries or 1 EL-EL15 battery in the included trays.

The BG-D800  also provides a comfortable vertical grip with an additional shutter release and scroll wheel for easy access to the camera functions when shooting in the vertical orientation. The grip also has a tripod socket"

Included with the BG-D800 are:

  • BG-D800 Grip
  • Battery Holder for 1x EN-EL15 Battery.
  • Battery Holder for 8x AA batteries.
  • User’s guide

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  • Smudger

    Good news, more choice for the consumer, more pressure on Nikon’s gouging pricing.

    Hopefully the independents in China will diversify into producing knock offf bodies………… with better QC.

    • Michael

      It won’t pull down the price of Nikon’s grip, but it will definitely pull down the price of other third party grips.

      • Smudger

        It’s already sliding…….

        • Rob

          Nikon’s price dropped after 3rd party grips came out? From what to what?

          • http://www.bobcooleyphoto.com bob cooley

            From $600 to $400

            • mouonline

              i think $250 is more reasonable… just a grip costs $600… WTF..

            • Steve Starr

              Nope. Still $616 on Nikon’s USA website.
              http://www.nikonusa.com/Nikon-Products/Product/Power-Packs/27040/MB-D12-Multi-Power-Battery-Pack.html

              Actually, this plastic one broke through the $100 barrier. Seems they are going up in price for the copycat models rather than going down. Nikon is holding steady, might even go up and then the copycats will no doubt follow.

            • MTP
            • Not Surprised

              “Nope”

              On Adorama and elsewhere, it is $400. $200 cheaper than previously. So get a grip. A third party one.

              Nikon can make this $250 at most, and they are JERKS for making it any more than that.

    • Andrew

      Not necessarily good news. Nikon is a business, the less they make on accessory the more they will charge for their cameras. Think about printer companies, they charge less for their printers because they can makeup the loss in ink.

      • Andrew (another one)

        That doesn’t make sense at all. If Nikon can already make more charging more for their cameras, why aren’t they already doing it?

        You seem to think that Nikon just cares about breaking even. They don’t; they price products to make as much money as possible.

        • Andrew

          Other Andrew, here is my response:

          1. “they price products to make as much money as possible”. Not necessarily. Sometimes companies price products to gain market share.

          2. “You seem to think that Nikon just cares about breaking even.” No I don’t! But in the case of just breaking even, have you studied the history of Amazon? Their business model was not just to break even (which you think is a bad thing!), but to lose money for years in order to gain market share. So breaking even is not a bad business model if you are planning long term. But in Nikon’s case, they definitely do not need to break even. In fact, they are making good profit.

          3. “You seem to think”… No, let me tell you what I think in relation to my comment. Nikon depends on the sales of their overall product line, and that includes cameras, lenses, accessories, and services. Nikon can take actions to protect itself in the long term. For example, move users to a new generation of cameras for which all of the key accessories have chips with code that will disable the functionality of the camera if an off-brand product is used. I don’t know if this would make good business sense in their case, but at least it is an option.

          Remember Microsoft? They gave Internet Explorer away for free when they wanted to take the market away from Netscape. They won that battle, but then came the Fire Fox browser and Google Chrome. This is just to let you know that I understand the strategies of more companies than you may realize, because I have lived long enough to see their behaviors and the corresponding effects. But there is more to this story that we cannot discuss here. But suffice it to say that not making money on a product is not always a winning strategy as in the case of Microsoft, while in other instances like in the case of Amazon – it is a winning strategy. Anyway, thanks for your feedback.

          • ninpou_kobanashi

            No need to worry about accessories if your body don’t sell.

  • http://francescospighi.zenfolio.com/ Francesco

    What about tropicalization?

    • http://artier.us Aaron

      The plastic build and lack of weatherproofing was why I bought the actual grip….Its not worth it to me to put a piece of hundred-dollar plastic that is connected to my camera’s electrical system to take out into the winter snow….

      • Phil

        Lol, so many trolls who probably don’t even have the original battery grip (and probably not even a D800). It is clearly stated in comparisons u can find on the web (for example in DP forums) that the connectivity part to the actual body of the Pixel Vertax version is the same as the actual Nikon grip, which means that if the Pixel one is not weather-proof enough for you, the original one won’t be either. As people state it in those discussions there is no rubber protecting the connectors in either version of the grip

        • LP

          I have the Pixel Vertax battery grip on my D800, and I’ve tried the actual Nikon, and I agree with Phil. If it’s not weather-proof enough, you can add an o-ring

          • http://aetier.us Aaron

            The actual grip has a button design that is meant to be weatherproof in addition to the o ring at the battery door. the pixel is not secured for weather in the buttons or the battery door.

          • http://artier.us Aaron

            I bought the actual grip the day it arrived in Israel for 2400nis or around 600 dollars. Im not about to hack together my own weather proofing solution for my 3400 dollar camera. until you take it apart you cant know what considerations these chinese companies put in for weatherproofing under the buttons and joystick.

            • Steve

              Agreed. Weatherproofing is also about the controls. If I get a third party grip for my D800E I won’t use it in wet weather.

  • http://denkerfoto.com miike

    will it “release” the 6fps?? like the Pixel one?

  • D400

    When will they release the knockoff D800 for $700?

  • http://artier.us Aaron

    This grip has the same issues as the other ones, plastic causing a weak tripos socket, no weather proofing, plus this one looks like crud…buttons just look awful from the pictures…

    • http://artier.us Aaron

      The tray also looks different, so no using Nikon battery trays in this guy. This one is even more expensive than the pixel vertax and looks even worse-granted they at least put the battery label on the actual button (which will probably make it wear out) but they didn’t even TRY to recreate the actual grip part, and left out the rubber thumb strip on the back…..

    • Sheesh!

      Seriously give it a rest. We know you got the original one. Stop trying to justify spending so much to yourself by trolling this blog.

      • http://artier.us Aaron

        I don’t have to justify it for myself, the choice is obvious. I just cannot belive that so many D800 owners will try to save a buck buying a cheap, weaker, and untested electrical component for their camera when their camera alone cost them 3000+ dollars. Just doesnt make sense to me at all.

        • Sheesh!

          Because the camera is worth the asking price; the grip isn’t worth the asking price.

          It’s simple really.

          • http://artier.us Aaron

            You are right, if a third part manufacturer came out with a magnesium grip with weather sealing that cost less, I might buy it, but these grips have neither.

            • Sheesh!

              Did you read what I wrote?

              Look if you FEEL you need the overpriced Nikon grip, that’s fine. Buy it and enjoy. However a lot of us FEEL it’s overpriced for what you get (especially considering the price of other non-third party grips).

              Once the Nikon grip comes down to a more reasonable price for what it is then a lot more people will join you in saying it’s worth the extra. Until then don’t criticize people with good monetary sense.

            • http://artier.us Aaron

              Good monetary sense for someone that feels this grip is too expensive is not to buy a cheap grip that may short out the camera, it is not to buy a grip at all.

            • Sheesh!

              LOL short out the camera. Now you’re grasping as reasons to justify your overpriced purchase.

              UNLESS you shoot in the rain all the time (granted that could be the case since you live in Israel… snigger) I doubt it would be a problem.

          • http://artier.us Aaron

            I will be doing live-stream broadcasting for the Israel Football League using this camera. The football season is in the winter and yes, it does rain quite a bit in the winter during football season even in Israel. In addition, I have been and will be travelling back to both India and Nepal-returning to go around the Annapurna mountain range for a second time. At altitudes exceeding 5000 meters, it is very snowy, and very wet up there, so yes, weatherproofing is how I justify the purchase.

            • http://artier.us Aaron

              Not to mention the fact that it is very snowy in the Golan Heights in Israel, very sandy in the south, and VERY humid in the Tlv area…

  • http://500px.com/VAlex AlexCY

    Same grip as Meike for 69$ ?

  • http://www.frescoglobe.com David

    The pixel vertax D12 looks better. I’m really happy with mine. It unlocks 6fps in DX mode, build quality is good and I’ve had no problems at all with it.

    In-depth review here:
    http://www.frescoglobe.com/2012/07/17/pixel-vertax-d12-grip-for-nikon-d800/

    • Got one 2

      +1

    • http://Www.eltonsaulsberry.com Elton

      Excellent review, thank you.

  • jorg

    i ordered the meike-grip. i will return it, it is okayish but nothing more…

  • http://ronscubadiver.wordpress.com Ron Scubadiver

    Even though I shoot portrait most of the time, I don’t feel the need for a grip. To me it is simply more weight and bulk.

    • http://haroldellis4444@gmail.com Harold Ellis

      +1

    • Big J

      (Saying it first) Well although someone soon will say, “I need the grip to counterweight my….80-200mm or else it’ll severely damage my wrist.” The use of a grip in my opinion is mainly for personal preference rather than functionality. People have been able to use film cameras without them for a very long time just fine.

      • http://artier.us Aaron

        Except the D800 provides clean HDMI out. Broadcasting long events with the D800 almost requires the extra batteries to keep it going for 2+ hours. I hated USB tethering and broadcasting from the D5100 that forced me to run a commercial every 45 minutes to change batteries in the middle of a football game…

        • Aaron

          Thts from the field anyways-can always use the external power supply in the studio…

        • Aaron

          Buy a real video camera for events you moran.

          • http://artier.us Aaron

            Learn to spell before you insult someone, and look up the reviews on the HDMI out at 10 bit 4-2-2 colors and 176Mbit uncompressed bitrate, then find me another camera that can shoot video at that quality that accepts all my pro glass and takes still product images.

            trolololo

      • ActionJunky

        I don’t understand your comment. Your telephoto lens and camera are too heavy and awkward, so you want to add even more weight with a grip to offset the weight?

        Nikon does not recommend supporting the camera only when mounted with a telephoto. You should support the lens, not the camera. I have no problems carrying the D800 and 70-200 when the strap is mounted to the lens. It is balanced quite well.

    • Grippy

      Anyone with normal to large hands should absolutely be using a grip for comfort and handling. It has nothing to do with weight and bulk at all. A grip doesn’t add hardly anything and if the extra weight is a problem, I suggest lifting weights. Only someone with girlie hands and/or no strength would complain about using grips! They are a huge benefit!

      Also, a ***well made*** 3rd party grip for $60-100 is way better than being gouged for the Nikon version.

  • LP

    Alignment pins are made of plastic as in the Meike version..

  • Shootin’ Steve

    One thing I have never read with clarification is kind of making feel a little sheepish to even ask, but here goes: In all the descriptions they say “storage for one nikon or 8 AA batteries.” Are these batteries actually connected and charging the system or do you have to swap out the grip battery with the camera battery when the camera a battery runs low?

    It seems like it is wire through, but I’ve never seen a difinitive statement about this.

    Thx!

    • http://Www.eltonsaulsberry.com Elton

      The battery in the grip does power the camera.

  • T. C. Knight

    They will never build a knock off D800. It would be too hard to reverse engineer the focusing problems that the real D800 has, plus they would have to set up a network of repair facilities so that they could ignore the focusing problems on a wide scale. In addition, they would have to hire more executives to ignore the problem and alienate customers. I just don’t see them being able to afford all of that if they don’t get $2,999 per unit.

    Oh yea, I forgot. THEN they would have to hire enforcers to enforce their no-discount rules and to kick any dealer who discounts by $1.00 or more out of the dealer network. Like I said; just too expensive to do.

    • http://www.bobcooleyphoto.com bob cooley

      Don’t you just love it when a company puts out an incredible, landmark product that performs beyond expectation, and then trolls find the smallest flaw, that will never be seen by most people even if their camera is one of the ones that has the flaw.

      How many people who use the D800 shoot in live mode?? and when they do, how many of them really use the far right left focus point in single point mode?

      Once it was established as an issue and confirmed by Nikon, Nikon Services started making free calibrations and fixes to any unit sent in.

      I’ve got news for you – I’ve shot with Nikon, Canon, Hasseblad, Fujica and Mayima for 25+ years, and out of the probably 20 bodies I’ve owned in that time, not one of them didn’t have a quirk or issue that I didn’t have to work around.

      If you look hard enough, you will always be able to find some esoteric issue with any camera body or system.

      I would hardly call the single-left-focus-point-in-live-mode being soft a problem unless you shoot in that mode. Which nobody really does, so its a minor bug. And if that bug affects your workflow, then by all means get it fixed.

      But hijacking a thread to cry about something that only affects you because you read about it on the net is just silly.

      • http://artier.us Aaron

        +1

        • Aaron

          -1

      • http://www.tcknight.com T. C. Knight

        My greatest flaw, I think, is not being able to tolerate idiots. But, sometimes you just have to go with it. So

        1) The left focusing sensor problem is NOT when it is in live view mode. Shooting in live view is the only way AROUND this problem. Maybe you should try experiencing a problem before commenting on it.

        2) Since I got my camera from the first shipment from Nikon, this problem ruined a few photos I took on a job in California before we were familiar with the true nature of the problem. A Nikon rep had me send it in but Nikon would not acknowledge the problem and, except for cleaning two very large oil spots on the sensor, sent it back without fixing it. I guess at that time they didn’t know how to fix it.

        3) Ruining half a days shooting is NOT an “esoteric” problem and certainly not a “smallest flaw”. Unlike prosumers, professionals can not tolerate any focus variants, even if it is “close”. “Close” doesn’t work here. Especially since these photos were being printed life size.

        4) Maybe you think loosing around $2,500 in lost time and travel, not to mention the embarrassment of trying to explain why you are using an untested camera to a client is insignificant. It is not to me.

        It doesn’t matter what you have shot in the past…or maybe it does; if you had used Nikon for the last 32 years like I have, instead of jumping around and not learning about any one camera, then you would be offended by Nikon’s treatment of priofessional customers too.

        Didn’t mean to get off subject, but like I said, I just can’t tolerate idiots.

        • LarryC

          I’m curious how you explained to your client that you used untested equipment on their shoot?

          • umesh

            + 1

            No wait +1000

          • RamS

            “Untested camera” ?

            Yes, how do you explain to your client about this untested camera from Nikon ! Untested by LazyASS Quality ASSurance workers in Sendai ?

            It is not the Pro’s job to test all the features ( like, checking if each of the 51 points works perfectly in AF-C, AF-S, AF-A in PDAF/CDAF ) of a camera before use.. What is Nikon’s Lazy Ass QA/QC dept doing ?

            • umeshrw

              And you sir are definately not a PRO photographer as you take QC of a brand new FIRST BATCH camera blindly. A true pro clicks at least 1000 pics at his PREFERRED settings to confirm that everything is perfect so that no surprises occur ON THE SHOOT. Good day to you.

        • mally

          +1.

          No, wait….. +1000.

        • http://www.bobcooleyphoto.com bob cooley

          Nice ad hominem attack.

          To your points:

          1) You are correct, i mis-spoke (typed) – its not in the liveview where there is an issue, its how you test the issue. But really, how many people shoot with the left single focus point?

          2) You state you lost a couple of shots – this is a far cry from…

          3) …where you state you lost a “half a day” shooting… So what was it, half a day, or a couple of shots?

          I have a hard time believing that you spent half a day shooting with the left single focus point since all of the photography on your site utilizes center-focus.

          4) So exactly to that point – why would anyone who claims to be a pro, shoot a commercial assignment with equipment you were unfamiliar with? Always get to know your equipment before you put your clients’ money on the line.

          I’ve shot Nikon as my primary system my entire career. Canon for video when Nikon was woefully behind in this arena, and the others in-studio and location, all for advertising and specialized applications.

          So I’ve not jumped around in brands, just used the right tools for the right situation. I know each of these systems very well.

          You infer in your comments that I’m a “prosumer” – which is amusing if you’d taken the time to look a little deeper. I’m quite familiar with Nikon and their service. I’ve been a Nikon Professional Services member for over 20 years.

          Bottom line: people always complain about their equipment, and how it wronged them when they were unfamiliar with the tools (and their quirks). Being a professional also means knowing your tools before you take them on the job.

          So feel free to call me ‘idiot’ if you like – but before passing judgement, remember this is a fool who doesn’t blame unfamiliar equipment for missed shots. If you care to look at my list of credits, you’ll see the types of clients that have trusted me time and time again to deliver.

          • http://www.bobcooleyphoto.com bob cooley

            and apologies to all – this has gotten way off thread.

          • Sdnd

            AF problem in live view ?

            You are so clueless !

            • http://www.tcknight.com T. C. Knight

              Not mad Aldo#2, I wrote a response, to D400 who suggested that maybe they could do a $700 D800 knock off, trying to entertain you guys, then got flamed for it.

          • Aldo #2

            I would pay 3k or 5k to be among the first who used the camera that revolutionized digital photography rather than be the guy drooling at it with bitter comments.

          • http://www.bobcooleyphoto.com bob cooley

            lol – that really did make me laugh :)

          • Aldo #2

            u mad bro?

          • http://www.bobcooleyphoto.com bob cooley

            ahh.. the last retort of a troll “u mad bro” when he has absolutely nothing to contribute – thank you 4chan for littering the internet.

          • Aldo #2

            lol that wasn’t for you but now it kinda suits yah :P

          • Aldo#2

            no I was telling “ram” who called someone an idiot… he seems upset lol.

            • Aldo #4

              u mad bro?

      • umesh

        I was just composing a reply when you posted yours. couldn’t have said it better. I actually doubt that he could be a troll. No nikon lover would be this poisonous on NR. On CR would be a different story although……….
        +1

        • http://www.tcknight.com T. C. Knight

          Bob is right about on thing. I really, really, really, should have tested it before I used it. And to the responder who asked how I explained that, it was just like this, I apologized and said that I “really, really, really, should have tested it before I used it.” Wasted my time and theirs.

          • Aldo #5

            Manual focus you noob.

            u mad yet bro?

      • Pdf Ninja

        Bob, if you shoot anything that moves, the camera is using all AF points, including the left one. It is more important than you think. Do not dismiss it so easily as “who cares, no one uses the left AF point anyway”. It is simply not true. Some people are shooting fast moving airplanes, cars, sports.

        • I’m Chuck Rockwell!

          Not if you;re good. I don’t need no stinkin’ 3D AF!

    • Ram

      :-)

  • Alan

    Will this grip help solve my D800 left focusing issue??

    • EastOfGratiot

      YES! You will be able to move the bad left sensors to the bottom of the frame :)

      • Alan

        Good point! :-)

  • Dweeb

    Considering they are making a profit you have to wonder what it costs to make. Not too hard to figure out Nikon’s banking 300 bucks a grip on each of theirs. Ditto with their GPS.

    • http://www.bobcooleyphoto.com bob cooley

      Personally, I’m a fan of the Meinke (aka Flashpoint if bought at Adorama) grips – I don’t have one for the D800, but I had them for the D700 and D7000, and they were good performers.

      I shoot outdoors most of the time, and in inclement weather, and they were both solid performers (I did put my own rubber gasket on them to protect the connectors on the Body in both cases – just to add a little weatherizing).

      BUT one of the major differences in the Nikon and the aftermarket ones is the build materials.

      Nikon= Magnesium Alloy bodies with outer rubberized plastic that is OSHA approved.

      Others = plastic bodies with out rubberized plastic that can be kind of scary when they come out of some factories in china – they don’t have quite the same chemical safety controls that the bigger manufacturers do.

      I once ordered a knock-off GaryFong light modifier (for $5!) from a Chinese company, and it worked just as good as my real one, but my house smelled of strange plastic smell for a week – i never really felt comfortable with it, thinking it may have been pretty toxic.

      That’s not damning any of these 3rd party grips or any knock-off product; but when you buy them, there is a quality assurance risk involved.

      • Risque

        The biggest quality assurance risk involved is with the D800 !

      • David

        The thing is, the Nikon grip is *also* made in China. Hopefully according to Nikon protocols and tests, but something being simply made in China isn’t a damning fact by itself.

        And at the moment, nobody can really say what materials the “knock-off” grips are made of. The pixel website (www.pixelhk.com/Proshow.aspx?id=184) says that the grip is of the same material as the camera body, and that it maintains the same degree of weather sealing. Obviously, that’s hard to test at home.

        • http://artier.us Aaron

          Then they are plainly lying on their site. The grip is very obviously plastic on all of their reviews while th D800 is Mg and you can see in the pictures that it is missing at lease one seal on the battery tray, not to mention the possible lack of weatherproofing under the button area…

          • http://artier.us Aaron

            I mean te entrance to the grip where the tray goes, of course te teay itself is without sealing in the” real “version as well

        • http://www.bobcooleyphoto.com bob cooley

          David,

          Totally agree on all points – one would certainly hope that a Chinese, Thai (or wherever) company that is working for Nikon (or any major brand) is going to have better quality, manufacturing, and materials control than for a smaller third-party.

          I’ve gotten some great third-party knock-off accessories – and some really sketchy ones. Its a crap shoot, but my expectations are lower when buying off-name brand.

  • Carl in Williamsburg

    I know that a lot of people are buying the less expensive “knock-offs” of Nikon’s MB-D12 for the D800. I bought the original Nikon for one reason. I want to be able to say, if something goes wrong in my letter to Nikon, that I wasn’t using something that they didn’t approve with my camera that is still under warranty. If my camera body was a year old, I might “consider” it, but I’ve tried cutting corners with after market items, e.g., knock-off batteries, and have lived to regret it. So, no matter what the cost, I won’t attach anything that is NOT Nikon to another Nikon body.

    • http://artietu.us Aaron

      +1 for battery grip, but I would still used sigma/tokina lenses and flashes, as well as third party cables…anything having to do with power to the camera is only 100% nikon in my book.

    • Steve Starr

      Interesting point. Wonder if the body stores grip information like it does with off brand lenses in the camera lens tuning menu? Nice way for them to kick out of a warranty if they wanted.

      • http://artier.us Aaron

        I have the feeling that it might save that data, seeing as they can already view which batteries the grip is holding, it wouldnt be too hard to put some sort of code in the grip at lease for repair purposes (grip batch number etc for seeing what was connected to the camera during a hardware failure)

  • http://www.flickr.com/photos/gene_inman/ Gene

    If it is the same quality as the Phottix Strato II, wireless remotes… It will be a fabulous product, and I only wish I had not already purchased the overpriced Nikon grip.

    • Don

      I had a Phottix grip for the D700, died after about 8 months (shutter release stopped working). Eventually bought a used Nikon grip and it’s been going strong for 2 years with a LOT more ‘abuse’. There are def some usability and quality differences between 3rd party and original manufacturer.

      • David

        Thing is, you could replace the knock-off d800 grip 4-5 times before buying the original one would be economical.

  • Nikon Aristocrat

    Does it come in red?

    • Carl in Williamsburg

      Love it!!! A little humor never hurts any thread. We (and I include myself) take ourselves way too seriously at times and you just lightened my day! Thanks Nikon Aristocrat!

  • Darkslide

    I’m certainly no expert but the Meike version I’ve just received looks 100% like this Phottix version.

    I’ve compared as many pictures of the Phottix as I can find, and it’s EXACTLY the same. I guess this shouldn’t be too surprising really – Phottix don’t have to actually manufacture everything they sell. Why bother when someone already does a reasonable job.

    So, is it worth paying twice as much as the Meike version? For something I’ll use every now and then, no – definitely not.

  • Aldo #2

    meike brand is working just fine for me… cost me only 75 bucks. If anything when the nikon version one comes down to $250-300 I’ll replace it and sell for 50 bucks. I purchased accidental warranty for 3 years from best buy for around $225 for my d800 with the money I saved on the grip and still have spare change =]

  • whisky

    looks just like the meike MB-D800 for $57 — which incidentally works just like the Nikon MB-D800.

    having shot with both the meike and the nikon, the finishing and feel of the nikon may indeed be $20 extra, but the performance with AA batteries and the en-El15 is identical. for those worried about weatherproofing, the D800’s battery compartment is not weatherproofed, but if you decide to take your gear out in foul wearher, a zip-loc baggie and some electrical tape will prove itself more durable than either model. so the question that needs to be asked is spend 99 cents for better weatherproofing, or $300 more to be a nikon-fashionista?

    for those worried about the plastic vs. magnesium foil frame, plastic cracks and metal dents. either model can be significantly impact improved with the addition of some silicon bumpers. black silicon from a tube requires a little emery cloth or sandpaper for best adhesion.

    people should choose whichever product or brand rhey’re convinced is best for them, but functionally either model with $5 worth of improvements will make them better than before and virtually equal. JMO.

    • David

      Can you post a bit more about silicon bumpers?

      Where would you seal, and how?

    • http://artier.us Aaron

      Where do you get your information about the D800 battery compartment not being weather sealed? Mine has a runber O-Ring around the entrance…

      • http://artier.us Aaron

        EXCUSE ME-made a mistake, its around the door to the battery compartment on the camera, not the actual entrance of the compartment like on the real battery grip. ALSO the actual MB-D12 has a weather seal around the connection from the grip to the body, not sure about the seal of the “fake” grip. So to recap:

        The D800 battery compartment IS sealed by an O-ring around the compartment cover.

        The real MB-D12 has an O-Ring around the entrance to the battery compartment and the connection from the grip to the body, the third party grips are at least missing the compartment strip, if not also the strip on the connection to the body itself. In addition I assume that the buttons are weather sealed on the MB-D12 just like the buttons on the body are, I doubt the third party grips are sealed due to the other lack of weatherproofing…

    • Big J

      @Whisky

      I’m curious about the stuff you mentioned. Why not make a short youtube vid about the grip and materials to weather seal. I actually was contemplating on my future D600 grip on how to “make sure” it’ll be weathersealed. Plus down here where I live they don’t even sell common, quality plumbing stuff like in the states.

  • Calibrator

    (Mostly) off topic but perhaps of interest for potential D800 buyers:

    Thom Hogan changes his review verdict of the D800 to “Not recommended” because of the focus gamble. See the review and his blog for the reasoning behind it.
    http://www.bythom.com/nikond800review.htm

    • Aldo #2

      Thom Sawywer doesn’t know how to manual focus…

    • Sheesh!

      Honestly what a petty and immature attention grabbing thing to do.

      Sure there’s some reports of AF issues and I’m sure SOME people have it.

      Fact is most people DON’T have this issue, just a vocal minority or paranoid people who think they have it.

      • Calibrator

        > Fact is most people DON’T have this issue, just a vocal minority or paranoid people who think they have it.

        Where do you got this “fact”?
        How many people are there who haven’t tested it properly?
        And don’t even try to tell me that the D800 is only being bought by pros.

        • Sheesh!

          Firstly, sorry if I offended you by insulting your Internet hero Thom. Who obviously can do no wrong because he uses all those fancy terms on his 1990s designed blog.

          I have a D800 and D800E and both have no disernable problem (tested with 14-24. 28 1.8 and other lenses.

          I have to wonder how much a problem is really a problem if you need sophisticated tests and charts to find it.

          My focus points are all spot on. Most real life users I know have reported the same. The Internet is great for making a vocal minority seem like a majority and make the majority paranoid.

          My previous statement stands as logical and just as likely as it being a terrible widespread issue as some like to make it out to be.

          • Soon

            +1

            Yeh what’s with people constantly getting so dramatic over this so called “issue”. I work with a lot of pros who use the D800/e for various work as well as have a close relationship with a worker at Lensrentals who has tested a lot of them.

            Suffice to say the issue has been blown WAY out of proportion.

            I think some photo bloggers are using it to draw attention to their sites.

          • Calibrator

            You know that you exhibit some quite unnecessary emotions here, don’t you?

            First of all, Thom Hogan isn’t my personal hero or anything like that. I just found many of his posts and reviews absolutely spot on and apparently many think so (which is why I posted this here).
            If I pissed you off I’m truly sorry but, frankly, you and a few others here are overly apologetical in all things Nikon.

            Again: How did you come to the conclusion that this isn’t a wide-spread problem?
            Just because you have two cameras and have heard from a handful other owners that they haven’t had problems?
            Hell of a survey…

            And to *all* people assuming that Hogan wants to generate attention:
            *Everybody* on the net wants to gather attention but if Hogan tells potential buyers to stay away from the D800 – especially his “disciples” – he also won’t sell as many of his D800 books! He is cutting his own purse, so to speak.
            Yeah, sounds like a real winning strategy!

            So, please, conspiracy theorists: Believe what you want but don’t act surprised if this focus thing turns out to be as problematic as some people (not only Hogan) are already implying.
            I personally consider messages like this an early warning system: Better wait instead of buying defective stuff.

            And actually we both can feel happy now because you get your stuff earlier as people with my opinion aren’t filling up the waiting lists and we let you early adopters iron out all the bugs so we get a problemfree product without having to gamble…

            • FJ

              U mad?

            • Why you so?

              LOL why you so scared?

              DO you own a D800 or D800E?

            • Sheesh!

              Again: How did you come to the conclusion that this isn’t a wide-spread problem?
              Just because you have two cameras and have heard from a handful other owners that they haven’t had problems?
              Hell of a survey…

              And you’re basing your case for it being a wide spread problem on what? A few people on the internet saying they have a problem?

              You’re just pulling facts out of the air. In fact both of us are if we’re honest.

              If it turns out to be a huge widespread problem then so be it. I’m just happy mine and all my friends D800/e are fine.

              “So, please, conspiracy theorists: Believe what you want but don’t act surprised if this focus thing turns out to be as problematic as some people (not only Hogan) are already implying.
              I personally consider messages like this an early warning system: Better wait instead of buying defective stuff.”

              No offense but you’re coming from a standpoint of ZERO personal experience with this camera it seems.

              Mate, you’re the one who’s speculating based on internet hearsay. I might have a small survey to go by, but a least I have some data. :P

        • Ron KenwellFake

          Well it might not be just pros who buy it, but someone who can drop $3000 on a body is likely to be quite into photography and will notice an issue like this if it were so widespread as people make it out to be.

          • Calibrator

            You are just speculating. I have *personally* seen bloody amateur with enough cash to “buy the best”.
            These folks don’t have the time to spend in internet forums to read about such problems so they are simply buying the stuff — if it is in stock, if it isn’t they buy another expensive camera because they usually aren’t brand loyal.

            Granted, they probably don’t notice the problem for a long time but that isn’t beside the point, isn’t it?

            • Ron KenwellFake

              So you’re speculating that because people don’t test it they must have the problem?!

              Now who’s assuming what?

  • Sean

    got my meike for $60. this looks exactly like the meike…. there’s actually another third party make that created a battery grip that works also with the en-el18 battery which i think is a plus, but I found out too late. I’m happy with using rechargeable batteries.

  • Ren Kockwell

    Just bought the Meike. Feels cheap, but works great. I’m happy. I’m not shooting in hurricanes.

    • Aldo #2

      lol … I hear the nikon version allows for zero gravity shooting. Don’t you want that option just in case?

  • http://photoartbymark.zenfolio.com photoartbymark

    my friend bought a non brand grip and had to ship it back defective after couple of months i got the real thing 3 years no problem spend the money

    • ActionJunky

      I have the Mieke grip and D800. I was shooting storm clouds this evening. Although things were covered by an umbrella, there was some rain. Let’s face it. I really only need the grip to unlock the 6FPS in DX. If it fails, everything else should continue to work as it did before. Therefore, this is not a critical piece of equipment for any shoot short of a professional sports game. And… if you are shooting professional sports games, you should probably be using the D4.

      So it still works fine. If it breaks, I can buy 3 more before approaching the Nikon price. By then, I will have upgraded again, anyway.

      My only real concern is using the grip and a neck strap that attaches to the 1/4 inch thread on the bottom of the grip. Now this thread is secured to plastic, not magnesium.
      d

  • skyrunner369

    I have a Meike grip and it’s 100% same as that of Phottix, but why Phottix’s price is so very expensive ???

    Phottix has too many products which are same as other factories’ products. I think they are only buying from other factories. In my opinion, I have no reason why I will buy Phottix in view of this high price

  • JR

    I still don’t get it. Nikon sells a revolutionary camera for $500 less than the nearest competitor that’s half the camera than the d800 is and people are complaining about paying $200 more for a grip than what Nikon typically charges. Also for the kind of investment that you have already made, why skimp now? Is it worth the risk despite however small it is? Particularly when Nikon warranty can become void by using 3rd party accessories?

    Not for me!

    • Sean

      If third party accessories voids the warranty, you should not use a pocketwizard, third party neck strap, mount it on a non-nikon tripod, or any third party lenses because they are technically third party “accessories”.

    • Norman

      if nikon charged reasonably it´d be fine, they charge 380$ for a grip in EU, well,no wonder people say yes to other cheaper grips. say 150-180 euro or 250$ will be the maximum most people want to give away on a low tech addition to your hightech gear. nothing more.

      have been using Meike on my d300 and took more than 50,000 shots, never once had a problem, guess what, the cam has the rubber loosening up on few places, the cheapo grip- be my guest and guess!!

  • Anonymous Maximus

    D800 has an optimum shape. Why would you add bulk with a battery grip?

    • Aldo #2

      Because aside from the fact that it holds an extra battery it makes the camera more comfortable to hold over long periods of time, especially if you use a heavy lens. This is a fact. My right hand (especially the middle finger) would end up sore on a wedding shoot before I got the meike grip.

    • john stevens

      When your shooting models and vertical..it is more comfortable shooting with the grip. Plus..i have big hands..and adding the NIkon MB-12 adds more security to my Nikon D800.

    • Ken

      you´ve never done a studio session lasting 3-4 hours i believe!!

  • MRGABE

    as this point, i honestly believe that Nikon OWNS these companies that make 3rd party grips.

    • Neopulse

      They get a share of the profit when 3rd party grips are made.

  • Shane

    After thinking about fakes grips and the expensive real one by Nikon , I came to the conclusion why bother with the fake when already spent soooo much on the pro camera.

    I’m not against anyone using 3rd party thats great but my point is the buttons and dials feel too muggy for me on the 3rd party compared to the genuine model so why bother getting a fake grip when I already spent so much on the camera

    • Sean

      Not sure if tried the real vs the fake out in person… I tried it out and don’t really see the “mugginess”

  • cheebahgah

    The grip I have for my D800 is really nice. I just wish they would get around to selling me the D800 i signed up for.

  • Grippy

    I have a Meike grip on two cameras. They have been flawless and do exactly what i bought them for. Way better buy than the overpriced Nikons.

  • Snake Plisken

    I bought the Nikon grip.

    Man do I feel ripped off now. Build quality isn’t worth the price for sure.

  • aznpoet

    Paid $96 for Pixel Vertax on Amazon. Surprisingly well-made. Unlike Phottix or Meike version, one of the two guiding pins is made of metal. The plastic has smooth, well finished feel to it. The seams and the joints are tight fitting with no flex.
    The battery chamber has inner wall and outer wall for more rigidity. The turn knobs feel slightly noisy and less dampened compared to Nikon knobs but not bad.
    Not sure about other 3rd party grips BUT this one has a RUBBER GASKET around the electrical contact, although not on the battery door. When attached to the camera, there is no slop; it feels very secure.

    Going off-topic a bit, but that D800 lettering in front of the camera body, couldn’t Nikon do a better job? Looks so damn cheap, almost an after-thought, like after they designed the whole thing, they went oops, where do we put the name? Then they just slapped it on with some white paint … for goodness sake, D3200 has a better looking name tag …

  • Chiqui Rodriguez

    Bought the Phottix BG-D800. Everything was working perfectly. Until it comes the time to use it with the Nikon EP-5B AC adapter. There is not a hole to allows the power cord to come out of the unit, preventing the battery door cover to close properly. Then rest work with not problem with D800E. I hope they resolve this issue ASAP.

  • ksporry

    Could someone tell me if the Phottix BG-D800M is compatible with the BL5 cover and EN-EL18 battery? The Canon grips allow for 2 batteries, whereas the Nikon version does not (admittedly, the Nikon allows use of the battery inside the body, whereas Canon does not). The only way to use more power is to use penlights, or the EN-EL18 plus BL5.

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