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Rumor: second Nikon D800 firmware update coming out soon

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Nikon is expected to release a second D800 firmware update as early as this week (not sure about the exact date). Some of the potential fixes are:

  • Nikon Japan acknowledged the D800 wireless flash trigger problem and offered a work around - this usually means that a fix will be provided with the next firmware update.
  • There are some rumors that Nikon may also provide a fix for the green cast present in the D4/D800 LCD screen and will reset the color profile to look like the D700/D3s.
  • I keep getting reports on the Nikon D800/E focusing issue. As far as I know Nikon has not yet recognized this as a bug. Here is video with detailed testing describing the problem:

Firmware update 1.01 was released last month and included a fix for the D800 lockup issue.

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  • al_

    Just thought I’d chip in:

    I’ve had a D800 since the first batch arrived in London. It has had a few hang-up issues (fixed, seemingly with the first firmware update), but hasn’t displayed any focus inaccuracies in real-world situations. It has shown a few lenses up for being out of calibration though, but that’s all been fixed with fine tuning the offset. I realise this isn’t what that video is talking about, but I’ve just not seen that problem, nor have had Don’s 5/4 crop issue…shame if it’s there for other users.

    The ‘green cast’ issue – it’s just not there, at least on my sample. I’ve got a colour-managed environment for post processing, and my screen matches my calibrated monitor (ViewSign scored at 100%) and prints (FOGRA certified) pretty much perfectly.

    • Ray

      I just got my D800 three days ago, and some of the shots are badly out of focus. $3,000 for a Pro camera, and Nikon cannot test sufficiently to work out these bugs before they “rush to market” their cameras?
      I also got the multi-battery Nikon MB-D12 ($415 at Amazon, B&H). I will be AMAZED if it cost more than $20 to make this plastic “thing.”
      A third issue, that I don’t read from anyone here, is that lots of us have waited 4 months already before we got our D800 (and some are still waiting) yet Nikon starts your Warranty from the date you ordered your camera. So by the time we got our D800′s a full 1/3 year of our warranties was already gone.
      And we let Nikon get away with this?!

      • Am-Expat

        I would guess you are a troll since anyone who actually has a Nikon grip for this camera knows it is metal. They also know when their warranty starts, which you were also wrong about.

        • Frederick G.

          Am-Expat, I also bought the MD-D12 accessory at the same time I ordered y D800 and D3x.
          It is MOSTLY plastic, and definitelt feels VERY cheap.
          That said, it works fine.

          Some camera outlets start the “warranty” the second you order your camera, and some don’t do it that way, So Ray is probably correct, based on his D800 purchase.

          I havent noticed any “green tint,” but the focus with my D800 is no where near as good as what my D3x turns out.
          Of course, the D3x cost me $8,000 and the D800 is just $2,999.

      • tooma

        the D800 is not a pro camera it is semi-pro. The D4/D3s are pro cams.

        • Am-Expat

          What makes it a pro camera if Nikon’s word is not enough, since it is a qualifying camera for NPS? So was the D300.

          In not the manufacturer stating it is, maybe the fact that more pros are using it now than all the D3s in existence since more D800′s have been made and sold? So what in your criteria makes a camera pro, if pro users don’t count nor the manufacturer?
          For its intended audience it is the best image taking DSLR available, with better IQ than a D3, D3x or anything else.
          It would be a sorry state if “pros” were denied access to better results because of a category name “semi-pro” vs “pro.
          In my field, pro equipment is that which is used by experts who are designated that by their results. For me, using what is appropriate for the task is more important than the label or brand. I was a recording engineer and studio owner for decades and never shied away from gear based on label, results and suitability to the goal was all that counted. There are frequent questions by amateurs or wannabees what mics for example were used on a particular hit record I did, and I tell them it makes no difference since what was used was what solved the unique problems with the task, characteristics and goals in a particular session so a very wide ranging toolbox was available. I had one of the largest collections of classic tube condenser mics that newbies would die for but they only got used when their characteristics solved a problem unique to that session. A hit or highly regarded record might have been recorded with $40 Radio Shack PZM or a pair of $20,000 custom made. I find the same thing in photography in lighting, anything that works to solve the unique problem of that session, that likely will never be exactly the same ever again, is what gets used for “pro” level results.
          If I am doing portraits, product, fashion, or anything where detail, color or image quality is a criteria, why would I want to limit myself by not using the D800 when it is sitting there? Over a category designation?

  • Pdf Ninja

    Is that LensAlign ruler absolutely dead straight, with virtually no curvature? Was it aligned precisely with the camera’s plane? I’m not an expert optical engineer, but we usually focus on the subject that we want to be sharp, not several inches away from it. I know the lens is the sharpest in the center, but I would consider a test that focuses directly on the subject, and compare the sharpness between phase-detection AF and live view manual focus (the best sharpness that can practically be achieved at that focus point and lens position). My D800 should be delivered today, so I can perhaps confirm my left side AF a bit later. The right AF is more critical for portraits, because it goes on the top.

  • Ray

    Test your D800 and you will see the focusing problem. I received 2 D800 with the same problem . To make sure we are not doing anything wrong we did the same test with Nikon D3s and the same lens 24/70, with both cameras on a tripod and same location, and the same none moving object. We also made sure the cameras are in the same setting and the same focus length and ran 10 shots. D3s was all the way focus but D800 only had 2 out of 10 shots that were in focus. In my opinion, it is a bigger issue than other issues this camera has. The camera cannot focus on a tripod with a non moving object. We tried different lenses and some people have this issue with only wide angle lenses, but we had this issue with all lenses.

    • louis champan

      I think I’ve experienced somewhat the same issue. Although what I’m experiencing is the focus point shifting on me with a stationary target subject, i.e. birds.

      Louie

    • Sandor

      Ray I agree with you.
      I have the same problem. My d800′s focus was awesome with my 24-70/2.8,
      70-200/2.8 and 14-24/2.8 (done about 2000 shots) until I turned on the af-finetuning for my new 50/1.4G wich needed tuning -17. After this, the focus for of all the above lenses went to unreliable, even if I turn off the fine tuning. Then I started fine tuning all the 2.8 lenses too, but it does not helped. the 2.8 lenses needed saved value 0. But the focus is not reliable now at all.
      Sandor

    • Marek

      This is the same frigging problem with autofocusing that D7000 had! And Nikon, for over a year, has ignored it and behaved like evrything is OK.

      Maybe this time – due to the the arguments of the professionals that would mostly use D800 being treated more seriously – Nikon would finally admit that they did something to the mirror mechanism/focusing part/whatever and they blew big time!!

    • tooma

      why did nikon change their focus system? In my opinion it was already perfect.

  • T.I.M

    OUT OF STOCK right now at B&H:
    D700, D800, D800e, D4, D300s, D3x

    BUT PLENTY D3200 in stock ! (I guess Ken Rockwell did not buy all of them yet)
    :)

  • http://www.robudan.com Daniel Robu

    I confirm awful problems with the left focus points on D800E – Tested with 24 1.4 G ED

    Also I can say that the first firmware didn’t resolve the delay issue for D800E.

  • Bjorn

    So, maybe we shall consider buying a new camera similar to Adobe’s releases of Lightroom. Avoid the first two versions. Sad!

    • silmasan

      Not so sad… because this means I have an “excuse” to delay buying a pair of D800s, yay! The “council for the discerning noobs” advises me to go spend the fund to get quality lighting first. Now where can I get a cheap mint secondhand D700 … ^^

      • BartyL

        Good luck on the D700 front. I’m still seeing them go for AU$1500 on eBay for units with up to 90k clicks. ‘Near mint’ samples with say, 5k actuations, are only going for a couple of hundred less than brand-new grey-market prices.

        • Bjorn

          Would you consider buying a new D700 for US $2150 a good deal? I am not interested in the film functionality and don’t like what I read about the D800 problems. Are there any similar known problems also for D700?

          • BartyL

            It sounds like a ‘fair’ deal. That’s about the AU price new, without the Goods & Services Tax. And right now the Ozzie dollar is about parity with US$.

          • neversink

            Funny – I have had no problems with the D800, the D4 or the D700???? Do people even know how to use these cameras??? What is everyone’s problem around here… WHINE.. WHINE…

            The only thing I might whine about is Nikon’s cancellation of the “comfort Woman” show… But otherwise I have had no problems with any of their cameras I have ever owned starting from the Ftn.

          • silmasan

            @Bjorn

            Don’t let my remarks stop you from getting a D800, because everyone’s situation is different. Either with a D700 or a D800, anyone will still have to do basic testings after receiving the unit to ensure they’re getting a good sample. It’s standard procedure with anything electronic really. You might get a somewhat clearer picture of the situation after reading commentaries in bythom.com dated June 16 and 19.

            @neversink

            Yes it must feel good to never have a single itch of a problem from buying manufactured goods your entire life, because isn’t that how real life ought to be? :)

            • neversink

              I guess I’m lucky… or perhaps I missed something. I need to restate that. I did by a D7000 with a hot pixel problem and was able to return that for another body. Perhaps I haven’t been using my D4, D800, or D700 correctly, but haven’t had a problem with any of them…. I had more problems with my F2 and F3 bodies years ago — and tat was just the metering system, which I was able work around with hand held meters…..

          • silmasan

            And by the way, if you live reasonably close to a NPS repair center, you wouldn’t need to worry about buying anything Nikon, because their service is top rate (based that’s what I’d say based on my personal experience).

            • John Martinec

              Nikon repair centers are top rate? Not the one in Melville NY. I had the same focus problems this guy had. I had to send the camera back twice. It may be fixed, I didn’t test it enough because it is now back for a third time. When it came back to me, the inside was filthy. There were drops on the sensor and worse of all their was a scratch or dirt that could not be blown out on either the mirror or viewfinder. The people working there from the top on down…and believe me when I say top on down because I have been communicating with the VP of consumer relations here in the US, are morons and that is putting it nicely.

            • silmasan

              @John, I just did a little web search and found mixed reports from nikon users on various nikon repair facilities. Many are positive (not just the NPS members but also regular customers) but the ones that are not do sound a bit worrying indeed.

              In my case, I brought the units to the center myself so I could talk with the technician directly–that’s why I said if you “live close…”. But from your experience now i’ll make sure to do a proper documentation of my to-be-repaired units before sending them in, just in case.

        • silmasan

          You’re right, the local stores/resellers here are selling D800 unashamedly for $3700-4000 (in the meanwhile 5D3 is selling at $500 cheaper than its competitor…) which doesn’t help the D700 price situation at all. There’s one like new with less than 500 actuations being offered near the price I got last year for my first body–might as well buy new again. “Mint D700″ doesn’t go along well with “cheap”… yet.

      • http://www.robertreichenfeld.com Robert Reichenfeld

        silmasan, get the D800 – had mine a month, no problems and it’s a fantastic camera, a real game changer, and good at every iso. Learn to use natural/available light until you can afford/need a big studio light set-up – $3/4,000 is only enough for a low power light setup anyway. You can always hire lighting and add it to the invoice if you get real pro work. I have three Broncolor monoblocks, brollies etc., and if I shoot for House & Garden or Inside Out Magazine, they stay in the bag. Fashion is probably the only area that might need a big lighting setup.

        • silmasan

          Thanks Robert for the advice. I’m actually a fan of natural light (I’d choose a painting studio with skylights over the usual cold dark photo studios–to work with elimination and alteration instead of addition). However I’d like to experiment (play and fool around really) with more light options on a conceptual project/series. So, small and many (speedlights and esp. light mods) it is, not the biggies. I’ll snatch a D800 (or two) eventually anyway so no worries. :) Who knows, I might skip the “second D700″ idea entirely.

  • Dominique Dierick

    What I’d really like to see is a way to tune zooms at both ends, like on the Canon 5DmkIII. The resolution shows anything out of calibration and calibrating a zoom with only one value is only approximate as I experienced with two of my older zooms. Come on, can’t be THAT difficult to implement in FW. And put it in for D3s too please.

  • IsItARisk

    Regarding the D800E list of found problems:
    1. new focus lock (must remove the lens)
    2. LT AF focusing errors
    3. new type of freeze when hitting Play

    and many others issues that anyone can read here and on DPR,
    beside the news that hundred of these cameras have been sent to Nikon repairs,

    I wonder if I made a mistake to put myself in a list at B&H on 6/5, because of the risk of getting a camera that I must send to service. B&H said that when they arrive they immediately ship them and send an email. If this camera (illusion!) comes too soon (say December) maybe Nikon hasn’t fixed all bugs yet, by that time.

    Any advice? Thanks.

    -l.

    • http://www.tayvinknightphoto.com Tayvin

      December might be wishful thinking ;) I’ve read all the bad reviews too, but there’s a lot more good reviews from people saying their cameras don’t seem to have any of these problems. Another issue is you can’t really trust most internet reviews because anyone can write one and 95% of the people out there know more about blogging than photography.

      No matter what camera you buy there’s always the chance that it will be a lemon. I bought two 5D IIs, back in the day, and one of them had a soft focus while the other was perfect. I always cross my fingers when I buy a body or lens. So yes, it’s always a risk when purchasing any camera or lens, but you can always return them if you’re not satisfied.

      I pre-ordored my D800E on 03/07 from B&H.

      • lorenzo

        You are right on lemon risk and returning but one must have the proper equipment to do all possible tests and I don’t have them.

        I bought a defective D300S in 2010 and discovered that was a junk only 6 months later. Nikon hasn’t been able to fix it in 2 years. I thought the solution was to trash it and get a new D800E, no way! They seem worse than the worse point and shoot.

        I have been with Nikon since 1971 and have lots of good Nikon lenses (several Pro, gold ring) otherwise I would have switched to Canon.

        Where is the good Nikon of the old days?

        • neversink

          lorenzo…

          Test in the real world… You don’t need test charts to test. Just take photos with al the different settings… Yes… You will be firing off a lot of shots, but you will see whether your camera is a lemon, or a good working model…

  • Ryan

    I just emailed NPS the priority purchase documentation and ordered through Adorama today. Damn, I should have checked here before I did. Oh well, hopefully they will fix this issue quickly.

  • http://www.testcams.com Adam

    Here’s a video demonstration of the D800 Left AF issue I just completed:
    http://testcams.com/blog/2012/06/20/nikon-d800-left-autofocus-point-issue/

    • lorenzo

      Scaring, but thanks for the great video.

      My disposable carton Kodak (remember it?) worked better :-(
      Is this a $3K camera or what?

      I will cancel my D800E order …

    • Pdf Ninja

      I like your testing methodology, thanks for posting it.

  • Hendog

    Personally I don’t agonise over the finer details of colour on the back of the camera. I do use it to judge sharpness though, and a much higher resolution LCD screen is overdue. The 921,000 pixel screen is actually the total number of dots (red, green and blue) so resolution is only 307,000 pixels, which is pretty tiny (640×480). Also consider that videographers pull focus on the fly often from that little monitor with a viewfinder attachment. It would be much quicker to judge stills sharpness from a display with, say 1280×960 true resolution (not as much zooming in). We know it’s certainly possible, since iPhones have been doing it for a couple of years.

  • Thinh

    Michael’s video does not demonstrate the left AF issue that we have talking about and he did not use the correct method to test it.

    Here is the correct video you should post:
    http://testcams.com/blog/2012/06/20/nikon-d800-left-autofocus-point-issue/

  • Oh ####.

    Hardware upgrade needed to fix the crippled ergonomics. I don’t have 3 hands.

  • David

    That guy focused with the left but look at the central sharpness.

    He just wasted a load of time finding out that the 50mm lens has field curvature. Good job.

    • UA

      This.

    • SmartGuy

      You that are SO SMART how can you explain why there is no curvature on that lans on the RT?

      Think before you speak!

  • http://www.noregt.com Noregt

    Just wanted to add a serious issue that makes both the D800 and the D800E unusable for pro studio photographers using strobes and softboxes.

    When working in the studio, I’m setting exposure to manual, with for instance 125/f11. The only light that I have at that moment is the weak model light. Since the D800′s live view gives a ‘real’ example of the light situation, the monitor is completely dark, making it impossible to focus manually. For technical photography (I do a lot of focus-stacking and tilt-shift) this is vital. Live view will only ‘light up’ if you use the AF-ON button. You could use the movie mode to focus and then make the image in camera mode, or focus in aperture priority mode, but that is way to time consuming if you’re making hundreds of images in a day.

    There is no setting to change this behavior. The D700 worked a lot better in this regard; it gave a preview with open diaphragm and you could use the DOF preview to see it with the right aperture. The manual says to push ‘OK’ to view DOF, so I suppose this is a real slip-up.

    I’ve called Nikon about this and they are aware of the issue. They are looking into it, I’ll just have to wait and hope they come up with a solution with the next firmware (or return the camera)

  • d3c

    Michael did a wonderful job setting up the demonstration. It got me to thinking about my D800 and how I might detect such issues. I started by calculating the depth of field at 1.52 meters for the 50 mm 1.4 lens. I found it to be 5 cm using a 0.02 mm COC. Given the AF type employed on the D800 I expected the camera to resolve a focus attempt if it positioned the lens anywhere within that 5 cm band.

    I rechecked the video and Michel clearly shows the variance in focus shifting within this range. The autofocus methodology leads to this. Any images taken would appear sharp though not in the center of the depth of field as we would prefer. If Michael’s work describes the issue the camera behaves as statistically expected.

  • UA

    The Tapes Talk video mainly demonstrates the “normal” variance of the AF.. you will get the same results with pretty much every camera and lense combo there are just staying on the same focus point and constantly refocusing . The wider your lens is or more distant your target is or smaller your aperture is, the bigger the shift variance will be (and more neglectable in the mean time). After all, all of the presented figures were on focus respecting the center line.

    That “not acceptable for critical work” is just stupid. Back in the days, focusing was done by a human and human eye.. it had way much more variance than the presented “1 inch” on a 50mm lense.

    However, the one linked in the comments is an unit with defective AF or misaligned AF sensor since the picture is no where near the focus with the left most sensors.

    • lorenzo

      If your observation was right, how do you explain that one body works O.K. and the next doesn’t, whow do you explain that the problem is always on the LT side?

      I am skeptical of these kind of negative comments… to protect who?

  • David

    This is an intresting video as I myself just recieved a D800 in April, after shooting just over a 1000 frames I noticed around 40-50% were out of focus. I assumed that it was user error, rather than the product. I had started on another project, and this time I removed all variables from myself. i.e. tripod, MC30 cord and studio flash. I had a similar focus issue when using the different points.

    I contacted Nikon and they took in my D800 and 24-70 f2.8 for service. It’s been returned and checked. They said they realigned the sensor and adjusted the lens. I fired off three test frames and it seems around 2.8 my focus is still not tack sharp. I’m going to run some fuller tests, however it seems at f5 it was perfect.

    I know that traditionally depth of field is critical with f1.4 etc lenses, but I didn’t think a f2.8 would be that difficult – I guess I am shooting at 70mm where it becomes more critical.. however like I said more tests….

    In the meantime I hope Nikon sort out a fix! sadly this product seems to have been rushed to the high street in the megapixel race… something Canon were always to blame for!

  • Kame

    Just few notes from an optical point of view.

    The video shows a completely wrong way of doing a focus test.

    Assuming the target in the field of view perfectly perpendicular to optical axis, the resulting image plane will be obviously curve.
    While using the outer focus points it is useless to check the center focus just because the only point that will be in focus will be the focus point due to field curvature!

    I am puzzled by such a misconception on how optics works….

    • Don

      Kane,
      Problem is, even taking your point into consideration, it does not explain why the DOF shifts back and forth. With what you are saying about the method, you would expect to see a gradual shift in DOF in one direction, not a skip and then back.

      Can you explain this?

      Don

  • Don

    I’m just about sick of all this. I not in photography to spend hours and hours running focus test of which that is not my expertise. I understand a certatin about of adjustment as in AF Fine Tune is expected, but this is nonsense.

    BTW, I tested my camera for the left focus issue and it doesn’t seem to have it, however, I’m not an optical test engineer and it did use the 24-70 lens since I don’t own the awesome 24 1.4G.

  • http://vimeo.com/dahlfors Johan D

    Let’s hope that the issue with the autofocus can be fixed somewhat through firmware or adjustment at service. When shooting my 50mm f/1.4D wide open I had issues getting focus right on with the D800, just like others have noticed with various lenses.

    All in all, the D800 is an insane upgrade from my old trusty D200. The dynamic range is just stunning, I can’t just believe how good this camera is sometimes :)

    I’ve always had an interest in learning more about film as well, so the D800 is my perfect all-in-one camera. Just tried out the D800 + 50mm f/1.4D on a live concert tonight, and although the focus pulling can be difficult and I noticed some moiré in the singers shirt – I’m still very happy about the quality of the footage in low-light:

    https://vimeo.com/44419968

    …I got a feeling I’ll be holding hard onto this camera for quite some years to come ;)

    • http://vimeo.com/dahlfors Johan D

      …and oh yeah – I must say that I didn’t expect much really from the internal microphone of the D800. But after tonight’s recording I got very impressed by it!

    • Z

      It takes ages to download on my slowish internet speed.

  • Landscape Photo

    With the v.102 firmware, Nikon may easily add a blue-orange & green-magenta axis adjustment (like seen with advanced WB) in the LCD brightness menu.

    Everyone will be happy !

  • Baraldi

    I purchased mine a week ago. I did not notice any issue at any point of focus. Just noticed that there is a slight difference in focus of the central point for the other, but the difference is subtle and negligible.

    I read in a forum, a User reporting that your camera has a problem in left point. According to him, made ​​the discovery that when using the left point of focus and locks the focus point selection, the camera starts to focus perfectly on point “defective”. He believes the camera shifts the focus point when shooting.

  • Anonymous Maximus

    The green cast IS the major problem so far. I don’t think there is a serious focus problem (maybe only in rare & unusual occasions, too dark, too uncontrasty situations, etc), otherwise we would have heard it earlier.

    Nikon must rather concentrate on solving the GREEN CAST issue with a selective firmware update, and this should not be overshadowed by something trivial.

    • John Martinec

      I guess broad daylight and black and white is not good lighting or enough contrast to nail focus. Hmmm….what should I try?

  • steve

    just picked up my D800 yesterday from a local dealer and was surprised that they actually had the En-El15 batteries in stock also so i grabbed one of those too.
    Took the D800 home ,inserted the battery that came with it and stuck the extra on the charger.
    Went through the setting of the date,time and checking settings and fired some test shots.
    Everything seems fine to me , no green screen issues , no focus issues.
    For anyone searching for a D800 might i suggest you give http://www.doddcamera.com a try!

  • Picture Perfect

    Took my D800 around Europe for two weeks and just blown away by the results. Great dynamic range, excellent on programmed auto and excellent color fidelity. I love this camera. Even took some video (still figuring that out). I am not experiencing the left focus issue, although the camera is a bit finicky on auto focus- it does not like homogenous scenes or focus areas. So I focus on a differentiated subject in the same plane and re-compose.

    I am sorry for those who have encountered problems, but I would not pass this camera up. It is sensational- and I have 40 years’ of photography experience behind that statement.

  • Chris C

    I have had my 800E since the beginning of June. Thought I would get the firmware download but it does not load into the camera in spite of following instructions meticulously and trying the process from the beginning 3 times. Has any one any suggestions. First impressions first class though my age shows my ‘trembling hands’ so overcome with setting shutter speed. Any ideas on the firmware problem?

    • Am-Expat

      Chris, what size of uncompressed file results from opening the downloaded exe file? Several people have reported the same problem only to find out they downloaded the wrong file. The E model has a file that is 14mb and the D800 non-E is a 8mb file. If you loaded the wrong one onto the root directory of your card(use only one card in your camera when doing the update), the update option will be grey’ed out and not selectable.

      • Chris C

        Hi Am-Expat, Thanks for reply. the exe file is F-D8ooE-V101W.exe=9.705kb which makes the bin file D800E_0101.bin=15.489kb. I have the option to update, move up to yes & press ok &…nothing happens. Needless to say the card I am using is the primary card. I have now tried it with the other card removed & still nothing. Hmmmm. May have to speak with Nikon but I cannot do that until Monday. Thanks for helpfulness.

      • Chris C

        Spoke with Nikon today. They were most helpful & it was my mistake re which button to press. Gess I have been too atatched to my D7000. Thanks & all the very best.

  • http://www.garymenten.com Gary Menten

    I just received my D800 today, ordered APR6, from a local camera shop. Does the LCD have a greenish cast? In my opinion, yes, definitely. Does it matter much? No. Should it have this cast? Definitely not, but then again, in my opinion, the D3s display has a somewhat bluish cast and neither flaw will prevent me from getting the very best out of my equipment. The display is a convenience, not a necessity. Maybe it’s because I started in photography in film days, before cameras had LCD displays and I’ve learned to disregard it except for to check the focus and the histogram.

    Will Nikon ever admit that the display is kind of greenish and offer a fix? I dunno, but I’m not returning my camera.

    Now, I’m out to give this puppy a real work out.

  • http://www.povazanphotography.com,www.pressthetrigger.com Jozef Povazan

    Hi guys. I am new to D800. Received it this monday tested it and was disappointed with the AF problems it has. When in AF-S mode, camera front-focuses which is visible in the viewfinder like a very soft image. When I switched the AF off and focused manually on the same spot, this time camera back-focused even thou the viewfinder preview looked OK visually. The only time my D800 was 100% spot on with the focus was in Live-view using LCD. All the tests were done on a tripod, self timer trigger used with 2 different lenses – 70-200 AFS VR and prime 50 f1.8! But I do fast pace photo-shoots so that is useless for me. I ended up returning D800 back to Nikon here in Vancouver and I was promised it will be back in my hands within 48 hours! I also asked them if they confirm my experience that it is really like I described then I do not want this unit and either the shop bought it from replace it with a new one or I cancel order and return it to them. To pay $2990 before taxes for a High end model of a DSLR , hm I would love to have a working camera in my hands. So far D700 still rocks and it stays in my back for long time even if I keep D800 !!! Link to couple images with my blog-post about it is here: http://www.pressthetrigger.com/?p=1750

    Good luck with yours and let’s shoot. Btw. I have been with Nikon for more than 15 years and this is their first camera I am experiencing issue with, bugger :). I got couple sharp images out of it and they look stunning , wow what a shame, great camera with an issue :(

    • Am-Expat

      Have you checked the Diopter adjustment, that could account for the VF being out of focus in MF? That could account for all your symptoms.

      • http://www.povazanphotography.com Jozef Povazan

        Yes I did :). I tried everything, hard reset to factory settings, AF-S vs AF-C, manual focusing, live mode,… only live mode does the job, the rest was disaster. I should have the D800 back from Toronto Nikon on Monday so I will see how good they really are there :). In 15 years with Nikon this is first bad experience so it is not bad at all, but still bugging me with this kind of camera body :).j

        • http://www.povazanphotography.com Jozef Povazan

          So my D800 got back to me after a week of waiting. I wanted to return it to seller but Nikon representative asked me to at least try it so I do not regret later. I did try it. I took it to a wedding on this weekend and AF focus was calibrated well, there was still some lack in low light but it was decent performance. What troubled me more was inconsistent WB performance and the nasty green cast on the LCD, so when my bride looked at the previews on the camera she did not like it at all. You can see that green in the jpgs as well, so I shipped the D800 back to seller today in the morning and I am purchasing D3s instead. I do not want to experience trouble with D4 if it has same issues. Loved D700, will love D3s :) Good luck with yours guys. The image quality from D800 when it shoots with no issues is excellent, I will post some shots from that wedding on http://www.pressthetrigger.com, but I need to see if the images is perfect right at the wedding and not to go home and open RAW files. Nikon should think about it seriously! cheers, Jozef

  • Davd

    So still no update yet then.

  • R!

    I think the production was kind of to fast, that’s why I never take first production series and wait people that are hurry and pros to help brands finish their job corectly!

    • Am-Expat

      Was it too fast? They finished the design, so what would waiting to to find design flaws which so far have not been found. They have a faulty alignment station on one of the production lines but that is not a design issue but a final test problem on some portion of units. The rest are fine. Mine is fine, no, not fine…..Great!
      So are those of the few people I know personally with one.
      There is a reported problem with flash triggering under some conditions when using remotes but the pros who did the field testing did not find that. Mine does not have a problem using CLS wireless flash with remotes so it might be some combination of settings that trigger it that needed a lot of users flogging it to get some feedback on a previously unseen problem.

      • R!

        OK! I ‘m sure you’re right ,but I still think that It’s better to wait the second or third shipping series so the litle problems can be solved and the care in production checking can be upgraded , I just don’t like to give my new DSLR back a few week just after I got It , that’s is my stress free strategy ,you’re free to choose yours,take care.

        • Am-Expat

          Actually we are both right. It is prudent to wait if the desire to have it is not overarching the desire to be sure.
          Some of us do not mind a few teething pains when the benefits are so brightly illuminated. In fact, I was content to not worry about the reported AF problems if my had it, I would return in September anyway and could get it taken care of then, or have to wait until then to get one in the first place. Either way, the worse case would be a fully functional camera in September. But the possibilities of having a workable camera in the meantime was enough of a incentive to get one as soon as it fell into my lap, 3 days after looking for one. So I gambled and it paid off, the camera is great and awe inspiring. LOVE IT!

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  • ali

    i saw that you experimented this test with lens 50mm f1.4g so can i experiment this test with 24-120 f4 or i should get a prime lens to experiment my camera

  • Gan

    My D800 set AFC shot at still object with tripod, auto focus keep tracking wont stop, I send to Nikon for repair but not solve all the problem, some time still cannot stop lock on the focus.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1478027720 Howard Jones

    I took my D800 out for first time and many images were underexposed. Same thing happened with D700 but a firmware update fixed that. No fix for D800 it seems.

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