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Nikon D800 vs. D4 specs comparison

Here is a quick comparison between the Nikon D800 and Nikon D4 based on the specifications listed on Nikon's website:

 Camera  NikonD800 Nikon D4
Effective Pixels 36.3 million 16.2 million
Sensor Size 35.9mm x 24mm 36.0mm x 23.9mm
Lens Mount Nikon F bayonet mount Nikon F bayonet mount
Effective Pixels 36.3 million 16.2 million
Sensor Size 35.9mm x 24mm 36.0mm x 23.9mm
Image Sensor Format FX FX
File Format Still Images JPEG: JPEG-Baseline Compliant with fine (approx 1:4), Normal (approx 1:8) or Basic (approx 1:16) Compression
NEF (RAW): lossless compressed 12 or 14 bit, lossless compressed, compressed or uncompressed
TIFF (RGB)
JPEG: JPEG-Baseline-Compliant; can be selected from Size Priority and Optimal Quality
JPEG: JPEG-Baseline Compliant; can be selected from Size Priority and Optimal Quality
JPEG: JPEG-Baseline Compliant with fine (approx 1:4), Normal (approx 1:8) or Basic (approx 1:16) Compression
NEF (RAW) + JPEG: Single Photograph Recorded in both NEF (RAW) and JPEG Formats
TIFF (RGB)
Picture Control Landscape
Monochrome
Neutral
Portrait
Standard
User-customizable Settings
Vivid
Landscape
Monochrome
Neutral
Portrait
Standard
User-customizable Settings
Vivid
Storage Media CompactFlash© (CF) (Type I, compliant with UDMA)
SD
SDHC
SDXC
CompactFlash© (CF) (Type I, compliant with UDMA)
XQD Type Memory
Card Slot 1 CompactFlash© (CF) card and 1 Secure Digital (SD) card 1 CompactFlash© (CF) card and 1 XQD memory type card
Viewfinder Frame Coverage FX (36x24): 100% Horizontal and 100% Vertical Approx.
1.2x (30x20): 97% Horizontal and 97% Vertical Approx.
DX (24x16): 97% Horizontal and 97% Vertical Approx.
5:4 (30x24): 97% Horizontal and 97% Vertical Approx.
FX (36x24): 100% Horizontal and 100% Vertical Approx.
1.2x (30x20): 97% Horizontal and 97% Vertical Approx.
DX (24x16): 97% Horizontal and 97% Vertical Approx.
5:4 (30x24): 97% horizontal and 100% vertical Approx.
Viewfinder Magnification 0.70x Approx. 0.70x Approx.
Interchangeable Focusing Screens -- --
Lens Compatibility at a Glance*** AF-S or AF lenses fully compatible
Metering with AI lenses
AF-S or AF lenses fully compatible
Metering with AI lenses
Fastest Shutter Speed 1/8000 sec. 1/8000 sec.
Slowest Shutter Speed 30 sec. 30 sec.
Top Continuous Shooting Speed at full resolution 4 frames per second 10 frames per second
11 frames per second (AE/AF Locked)
Scene Modes -- --
Exposure Compensation ±5 EV in increments of 1/3, 1/2 or 1 EV ±5 EV in increments of 1/3, 1/2 or 1 EV
Exposure Bracketing 2 to 9 frames in steps of 1/3, 1/2, 2/3 or 1 EV 2 to 9 frames in steps of 1/3, 1/2, 2/3 or 1 EV
Mirror Lock Up Yes Yes
ISO Sensitivity ISO 100 - 6400
Lo-1 (ISO 50)
Hi-1 (ISO 12,800)
Hi-2 (ISO 25,600)
ISO 100 - 12,800
Lo-1 (ISO 50)
Hi-4 (ISO 204,800)
Dynamic AF Mode Number of AF points: 9, 21, 51 and 51 (3D-tracking) Number of AF points: 9, 21, 51 and 51 (3D-tracking)
Auto-area AF Mode Yes Yes
Focus Modes Auto AF-S/AF-C selection (AF-A)
Continuous-servo (AF-C)
Face-Priority AF available in Live View only and D-Movie only
Full-time Servo (AF-A) available in Live View only
Manual (M) with electronic rangefinder
Normal area
Single-servo AF (AF-S)
Wide area
Auto AF-S/AF-C selection (AF-A)
Continuous-servo (AF-C)
Face-Priority AF available in Live View only and D-Movie only
Full-time Servo (AF-A) available in Live View only
Manual (M) with electronic rangefinder
Normal area
Single-servo AF (AF-S)
Wide area
Maximum Autofocus Areas/Points 51 51
Built-in Flash Yes --
Flash Bracketing 2 to 9 frames in steps of 1/3, 1/2, 2/3, or 1 EV 2 to 9 frames in steps of 1/3, 1/2, 2/3 or 1 EV
Top FP High Speed Sync Up to 1/8000 Up to 1/8000
Flash Sync Modes Front-curtain sync (normal)
Rear-curtain sync
Red-eye reduction
Red-eye reduction with slow sync
Slow sync
Auto FP High-Speed Sync supported
Front-curtain sync (normal)
Rear-curtain sync
Red-eye reduction
Red-eye reduction with slow sync
Slow rear-curtain sync
Slow sync
Flash Compensation -3 to +1 EV in increments of 1/3, 1/2 or 1 EV -3 to +1 EV in increments of 1/3, 1/2 or 1 EV
Nikon Creative Lighting System (CLS) CLS Supported CLS Supported
White Balance Auto (2 types)
Choose color temperature (2500K–10000K)
Cloudy
Direct Sunlight
Flash
Fluorescent (7 types)
Incandescent
Preset manual (up to 4 values can be stored)
Shade
Auto (2 types)
Choose color temperature (2500K–10000K)
Cloudy
Direct Sunlight
Flash
Fluorescent (7 types)
Incandescent
Preset manual (up to 4 values can be stored)
Shade
White Balance Bracketing 2 to 9 exposures in increments of 1, 2 or 3 EV 2 to 9 exposures in increments of 1, 2 or 3 EV
Live View Shooting Photography Live View Mode
Movie Live View Mode
Photography Live View Mode
Movie Live View Mode
Movie HD 1,920x1,080 / 30 fps
HD 1,920x1,080 / 24 fps
HD 1,280x720 / 30 fps
HD 1,280x720 / 24 fps
HD 1,280x720 / 60 fps
HD 1,920x1,080 / 30 fps
HD 1,920x1,080 / 24 fps
HD 1,280x720 / 30 fps
HD 1,280x720 / 60 fps
Movie Audio Built-in microphone, monaural
External stereo microphone (optional)
Built-in microphone, monaural
External stereo microphone (optional)
Monitor Size 3.2 in. diagonal 3.2 in. diagonal
Monitor Resolution 921,000 Dots 921,000 Dots
Monitor Type Wide Viewing Angle TFT-LCD Wide Viewing Angle TFT-LCD
Playback Functions Auto Image Rotation
Full-Frame and Thumbnail (4, 9, or 72 images or calendar)
Histogram Display
Image Comment
Movie Playback
Movie Slideshow
Playback with Zoom
Slideshow
Highlights
Auto Image Rotation
Full-Frame and Thumbnail (4, 9, or 72 images or calendar)
GPS data display
Highlights
Histogram Display
Image Comment
IPTC information embedding and display
Movie Playback
Movie Slideshow
Photo information
Playback with Zoom
Slideshow
Voice Memo
In-Camera Image Editing Color Outline
Color Sketch
D-Lighting
Distortion Control
Edit Movie
Filter Effects
Fisheye
Image Overlay
Miniature Effect
Monochrome
NEF (RAW) Processing
Perspective Control
Quick Retouch
Red-eye Correction
Resize
Selective Color
Side-by-Side Comparison
Straighten
Trim
Color Balance
Color Balance
Color Outline
Color Sketch
D-Lighting
Distortion Control
Edit Movie
Filter Effects
Fisheye
Image Overlay
Miniature Effect
Monochrome
NEF (RAW) Processing
Perspective Control
Quick Retouch
Red-eye Correction
Resize
Selective Color
Side-by-Side Comparison
Straighten
Trim
GPS GP-1 GPS unit GP-1 GPS unit
Battery / Batteries EN-EL15 Lithium-ion Battery EN-EL18 Lithium-ion Battery
Battery Life (shots per charge) 900 Battery Life (shots per charge) (CIPA) 2,600 Battery Life (shots per charge) (CIPA)
AC Adapter EH-5b AC Adapter
Requires EP-5B Power Supply Connector
EH-6b AC Adapter
Requires EP-6 Power Supply Connector
Approx. Dimensions Width 5.7 in. (144.78mm)
Height 4.8 in. (121.92mm)
Depth 3.2 in. (81.28mm)
Width 6.3 in. (160mm)
Height 6.2 in. (156.5mm)
Depth 3.6 in. (90.5mm)
Approx. Weight 31.7 oz. (900g)camera body only 41.6 oz. (1180g)camera body only
 Price $2,999.95 $5,999.95
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  • http://www.truphotos.com gnohz

    At first glance, the main differences seem to lie in ISO performance, continuous shooting and battery life :D

    • Bob

      I had the same takeaway.

      One other thing I lust for, but will not pay an extra $3000 for, is the built in HTTP server on the D4. Translation? iPhone and iPad control (or any web browser). Really slick.

      • jake337

        You missed the extra flash control features. But yeah very similar besides MP, ISO, and countinuous shooting speeds.

        • Martin

          ISO might be lower on a pixel level, but it can be corrected if you accept a degrading resolution. after conversion to 16mpx, noise should be similar to the D4’s, if both sensors are of the same quality.

          i’m more concerned about dynamic range. i hope they didn’t sacrifice this for resolution.

          since i don’t need the resolution at all, i’m not really happy about having to buy so much expensive (fast) memory space.

          • sade

            No way!!!!!!!!!!!!
            At best, after resizing the noise of this camera will match the noise of D700 or a tad better. But D4 has much much less noise.
            Moreover, resizing only reduces the grain. But better SNR is not just about the grain. color accuracy and dynamic range can not be corrected by down sampling!

            • Jeff

              +1

            • Smarty

              Thats just wrong. Sorry. Averaging blocks of pixels into one down sampled pixel reduces noise.

      • keviin077

        Try to think like a wildlife photographer. For them it’s Holy Grail to have that possibility to control camera settings and the most of all to change focus point from the distance. And the awkward long cables can finally go away.

    • Fabian

      Actually, when comparing prints, I doubt there is much difference in ISO performance.

    • joey

      Use of the XQD card slot seems is also a significant distinguishing difference between the two cameras. It will be interesting to see if this format becomes widely adopted.

      • joey

        Someday I hope to learn to write in English. I apologize for my abuse of the language.

      • Yhannoby

        remember that XQD is just a new hardware, there will be a lot of improvements in the next couple of months/years.

    • http://www.Del-Uks.com Del-Uks

      What about D4’s Auto Iso mode based on the focal lenght of the lens?…

      I really hope the D800 has it!

      • Tim Harrison

        It does.

    • geronimosan

      I think a lot of people are overlooking the wireless/web serving/controlling via remote applications angles. For the armchair shooter, I can understand how none of that would matter. But shooters can send their photos, wirelessly or through ethernet, in realtime, to a webserver, enabling people to view the still photo shoot, or the video shoot, as it’s happening. The camera can also be controlled via remote apps, such as on an iPad or cell phone, which can help photogs or filmmakers who need to place the camera in a precarious position, such as at the top of a boom rig, and the control it (as in record, change settings, etc.) from their mobile device.

      As far as I know, the D800 can’t do this.

      • Ken Elliott

        I can do this with the D200, D300 and D700. I’ll bet the D800 is no different. Currently, I use USB or wireless USB (annoying issues) to connect to a laptop and go from there.

        The D4’s tiny wireless module looks nice, but the price is horrible.

    • Hans

      You should compare the price and battery life of the D4 with the D800 with battery pack.

      • Calibrator

        Depends:
        Yes – If you want to get them as close together as possible, ignoring the price for the optional battery grip.
        No – If you want to compare just the “bare minimum” body features. I’m also not sure how many D800 owners will actually buy the grip…

        • http://ryankoehlerportfolio.com rkoehler

          I will buy the grip if nothing more than for the balance. I have the D700 with grip and find it hard to go back and shoot without it. It’s a noticable amount of strain on the wrist without compared to with when I have a large lens like the 70-200mm attached.

        • http://www.seanmolin.com Sean Molin

          I absolutely want the grip. I’m pretty irritated that it is looking to be DOUBLE the price of the MB-D10 I have for my D700… but I must say, that while the off-brand plastic ones get the job done… they sure don’t feel like the rest of the camera.

    • http://www.joshjonesphoto.com Josh Jones

      I don’t think this was included in the comparison but keep in mind the D4’s shutter is rated for 400k and the D800 at 200k

  • http://www.jpgmag.com/people/markwjr Mark

    If the two were to walk hand in hand with the right photographer, they could be on top of the world.

    Mark

  • texajoe

    This is what will in the hands of some of the best photographers I’m the world. Wow. How the times have changed!

  • RondoX

    Nikon claims the shutter life of a D4 to be 400,000 actuations. Has the shutter life of the D800 been reported?

    • komal

      It is 200 000 for D800

      • Vladi

        Doesn’t matter, shutter can be tested to 500k but still can break after 40k actuations (it did on my d300).

        • D

          Is the D300 made and quality controlled in Thailand?

  • JamesDot

    The shutter life of the D800 is 200,000 where as the d700 was 150,000

    • RondoX

      Thanks James!

  • kevin

    update nikon buying guide?

  • Photo Man

    The 2 Titans in DSLR!!! Going to challenge the god realms of MF…

    • NikonCEO

      D800 conceived as the MX wannabe……real MX will be released 2013…..woootttt

    • david distefano

      slow down photoman. mp’s are not created equal. lets compare hasselbalds cfv-39 with the d800 36 mp. on the surface very similar but cfv-39 sensor is more than twice as large. d800 pixel 4.88 in size cfv-39 6.88 in size and the cfv-50 has a pixel size of 6.4. and both of those systems go with german zeiss glass by far the best in the world. nikon and canon and every other lens maker uses zeiss equipment to test their lenses. Then you have the phase one and hasselblad h digital backs with sensors 2.5 times the size of the d800 and up to 80 mp and still have larger pixels size. as good as velvia 35 mm film was and is, when compared to 2 1/4 it didn’t match up. you have the same thing here. and if you want to stay digital and have the very best quality possible get a “better light” scan back. it is the only system besides film that gets the whole info. medium format as well as large format is not going to die. those who want better know and are willing to pay for it.

  • Doug

    OO yeah one more thing, i saw on the showroom of the D4 sometime ago that the camera can also be operated using a Android based device, something that i haven’t seen been discussed so far, and i think is a plus for many people on this site, because if your using Android and/or your not American, it means good news

    • FX DX

      Android is by Google (an American company). Why is it good news for non-Americans? I am not following your logic.

      • Calibrator

        He probably means that the rest of the world has to buy Android phones because the iPhone is too expensive and not as widely distributed (wrong on both accounts).

        • geronimosan

          The application to control the camera is coded in HTML5 and run from a web browser. This means that any cell phone that gets internet and supports HTML5 standard (Windows 7 Phone, Andriod, iPhone, etc.) can all be used to perform this functionality.

    • Ray

      It can be operated by any device with a modern web browser. Android, iOS, Windows, Mac, Linux, not an issue. PC, tablet, laptop, phone, whatever.

      This has been made quite clear, however some mentally limited people seem to believe it is apple only.

    • Dixie

      Be careful: that kind of talk earns you a one way ticket to Guantanamo!

      Just remember that it is not a torture if:
      1) You’re not US citizen
      And
      2) A doctor is present.
      (only the first rule is mandatory)

      ;)

  • http://www.amanochocolate.com Art

    What is the point of these two cameras taking two types of recordable media?
    Compact Flash and SD cards in the case of the D800 and Compact Flash and the new XQD cards for the D4. Why not simply use one type of media?

    • joey

      I suspect it has something to do with write speeds, but don’t know the answer. Adoption of the XQD format seems critical to the D4 success. I could see spending the money, although much of it would be wasted on my meager skills, on the D4; however, I’m not sure I’d want it if XQD does not become standard.

      • http://www.amanochocolate.com Art

        Yes, but why not two XQD cards or two CF or two SD cards? I think I’d rather handle two of one kind of media rather than one of two kinds of media.

        • http://www.ob1ne.wordpress.com ob1ne

          I suspect they did this because,

          In a D800: CF cards are the professional standard. But SD cards are more widely available, just in case you need one while on assignment. Plus you can get Wi Fi SD cards, you can’t get that with CF cards.

          Plus the SD cards are there for the people upgrading from a DX camera.

          In a D4: CF cards are there because that’s what most pros would already have that are using this camera. And XQD is the future (of course).

          • BartyL

            “Plus the SD cards are there for the people upgrading from a DX camera.”

            The D300s already has this mix of cards, and I don’t like it there either.

            The mix of card types on the D4 is sort of understandable given that one of the cards is a new type Nikon are hoping will take off, although it seems like they are hedging their bets a bit.

            But to mix two established card types on the D800 seems silly.

            • http://www.seanmolin.com Sean Molin

              Ah, yes, but having an SD slot means we should be able to use the EyeFi wireless SD cards.

            • D

              EyeFi? Not reliable. Very poor execution on the complementary iPad App as well.

      • John Richardson

        Was watching an episode of D-Town TV, where Nikon said that in the future XQD cards will have up to 2TB storage. They are looking far ahead. BUT It does not explain why they did not do it in the 800…

        • NN

          Adding XQD support to the D800 would have made the price go higher. And they also have to keep some features exclusive for the top model.

          • http://amusingfool.blogspot.com/ AMusingFool

            Also, the main benefit from XQD comes when shooting bursts. It’s part of the deliberate crippling to keep from cannibalizing demand for D4s (like the 4fps limit).

        • Stan

          D800 doesn’t have XQD card probably because it was suppose to be released ahead of D4, but because of disasters it was delayed and thus at time of development D800 XQD specs were not available or not finalized enough for Nikion to use in D800.

    • Nikon Shooter

      Because in this particular instance Nikon is being a Sony’s little whore. I’ve yet to see a future D4 owner (myself included) being happy about having been forced to bend over and take that XQD card where the sun doesn’t shine. Why are we the guinea pigs for this new technology when our lives literally depend on our equipment? Why do I now have to spend another couple of thousand dollars on this so far redundant technology when I already have close to a terabyte of high-speed compact flash?

      Some dirty, dirty, dirty tricks just to get their hand in our pocket. We all know this is bullshit because Nikon is considered to be one of the most conservative companies. This is not like them and they must’ve gotten paid a lot of money to sell us out like this.

      And I don’t want to hear any bullshit about “don’t buy the D4 then”. I’ve got tens of thousands of dollars invested in the Nikon system, so I couldn’t go anywhere even if I wanted to. They know they got us by the balls and we are happy to oblige…

      • Bryan

        or, you know, they wanted to give the customer a choice and not restrict them to one type of media or something………damn them!

      • XQD

        if you dont like using XQD, then don’t buy the D4.

        • SBOAZ

          I might not agree with what “Nikon Shooter” complained or whined about, but I do respect his emotional disappointment.

          You “XQD”, who is this jerk? Are you from SONY, or what?

      • anzpoet

        +1

      • peteee363

        naaa, i remember when i first saw a usb on a computer, and thought what is this for. it took a few years before usb stuff was sold. i imagine the d4 plans on being around a while, so they jumped on the new standard. somebody has to be first, and nikon chose to be. but you would think with it being so new, they might throw you a bone, and give you one with the camera, even if it is rather small.

    • frAnk

      @Art

      Where were you when Nikon was developing the D800?! They should have talked to you first!

    • Dan

      Absolutely. I currently use a D3s and a D700 as my backup. If I were to upgrade to the D4 and the D800 as backup I would need to pack 3 types of memory cards for full backup of both cameras (typically how I shoot). That is a bit ridiculous

  • http://www.jpgmag.com/people/markwjr Mark

    Is anyone else kinda hoping they will come up with a firmware update that will allow for a 2.0-3.0x crop in video mode, like the D4 has 2.7x crop? They say they can’t do 1:1 because it would be like 5x that of the DX crop, but why not do something like 2.7x anyhow, and just have it not be 1:1? That part I still don’t understand. The DOF you could get with UWAs or even WAs at the effectively longer FOVs would be phenomenal. Wildlife videography would be amazing. I don’t see why they have skipped this..

    Mark

    • http://eleventhphotograph.com elph

      That would be amazing. I’d love that.

      Make it happen Nikon!

      • FX DX

        This is not how Nikon does things. There is a good chance that whatever you see in D800 now is what you will have for the next 4 years. If this is a must have for you, either wait for Canon to see what they will offer with 5DMIII or buy a D4.

  • kevin
    • http://www.malphotography.net Michael Laing

      Where, all the shots I saw where taken with a D700?

      • Ayden

        +1

      • http://www.seanmolin.com Sean Molin

        +10

        Not only all D700, but also mostly at base ISO.

  • Bip

    Nikon is making a big wave to the photography industry by introducing these two.

    Canon need to jump real quick, or else………

    I can see people switching from Canon to Nikon, especially the D800, if the D5III can’t match up with the specs.

    • http://www.amanochocolate.com Art

      I am really curious what Canon’s response will be…. This is all the more interesting since Japanese companies will share product info. As I see it we have several options:

      1) Nikon released a true game changer and Canon is caught unprepared.
      2) Canon releases something that simply competes.
      3) Canon releases a game changer.

      It will be fun to see which one pans out….

      • Dragos

        As a current Canon shooter on the fence about getting a D800, this is what I suspect will happen:
        1. Canon introduces the 5Dmk3 by the end of the month, which will finally have an AF capability of the 7D – close to the D700 but behind (again!) the current tech (D800, especially its face tracking and the ability to use that info. for AF, exposure and other things).
        2. Minor changes in exposure – again short of what appears to be the amazing one on the D800 (also in respect of flash exposure).
        3. Low MP, followed by a high MP later in the year.

        Nothing spectacular – just catching up to the D700 really. Which would be still very good, if they kept relatively low (under 20) MP count. Andf definitely not a game changer.

        What I see the D800 being is, simply put, a camera which you can put almost everything on auto (AF with face detection, wb and exposure, auto ISO, etc.) and be 99% sure it will nail that picture perfectly technically speaking. That leaves the photographer time to THINK what he wants to take a picture of, and why – work on the content of that picture. This is the major game changing as I see it. Canon is not yet there, we have to work and think hard of the technical side just to get to the proper exposure, focus, etc. BEFORE we can think of the content.

        • Jimmy

          Are you saying the Nikon D800 is the ultimate full auto camera?

        • http://www.flickr.com/photos/n1dqu_wlsphoto/ N1DQU

          Thanks for intresting perspective from a Canon user. All the reasions you stated is why over the last 3 years some Pros have been going to Nikon. For years Canon was the leader. Nikon worked hard to catch up. Then came the and D3s the Nikon D3x and the switch began. Especialy fron Sports photographers and previous Nikon users that had no other choice. Now with the D4 and D800/E the flood will begain just for the reasions you stated again. But not only from Canon but from a lot of Medium format users too. Nikon hit a home run with the D800/E. Let the wave begin.

          • Calibrator

            “Then came the and D3s the Nikon D3x and the switch began.”

            I doubt that the D3x had a hand in people switching to Nikon…
            And there were certainly more people jumping onto the 5DM2 bandwagon.

        • http://luis-faustino.com Luis

          That using on Auto feeling is why I love my D3 so much!
          I love to shoot using Continuos focus, automatic focus points (3d tracking) and couple it with my 35mm f2. I take many shots at waist level in street, without looking thru viewfinder and get great results. This is mostly when I am having fun of course, but I get better and better and have done it occasionally on weddings if the opportunity is there… I like the D3 has all those controls as manual switches… but they removed it on the D4/D800 with the new auto-af button + control dials, which I personally think will suck for me.
          I pre-ordered the D800 and am selling my old Canon 30D so I’ll be fully on Nikon this year. This way I have low-light/speed with D3 and resolution/video with D800.
          Canon is great too, loved to have a 5DmkII, but the controls layout on their cameras never got into my head as I HATED the three double-duty buttons near the top LCD. Missed many shots while changing settings with those stupid buttons. Plus, every new camera that comes out as those buttons arranged in different ways, which only means that even Canon cant figure it out themselves how to put it properly.
          Still, had a good time with Canon, but dont miss it much!

  • http://jvimages.com JVS

    This just solidifies my choice in the D800. If I shot sports, news or anything where higher iso and more fps were imperative I would pay twice for the D4.. but am certainly happy to save the 3g! … Now what to choose for my new backup? D3s or D700?

    • FM2Fan

      why? you need one shot at the right time – not 4 or 11 and most of them at the wrong time … both record video and allow stills during recording – so both can do much more than the still cams of the previous generation

      • http://luis-faustino.com Luis

        Sorry if this is a stupid question, but when shooting video in D4 or D800, if you take a still shot, will the video be stopped and then resumed or is it seamless?

  • RumpelHund

    Is that correct?!

    NO high speed sync with D800?! Cannot believe this!
    Face detection AF only in live view?! Do not want!!

    OP, can you please cross-check?

    • Jacob Kjøller Andersen

      According to the nikon website following flash modes are found in d800
      Front-curtain sync, slow sync, rear-curtain sync, red-eye reduction, red-eye reduction with slow sync, slow rear-curtain sync; auto FP high-speed sync supported

      So it looks as if auto FP is supported

    • danpe

      I’d guess high speed sync won’t work with the built-in flash, becuase I’ve never used a Nikon that does.

      Face detection is not just in live wiev, it’s the same as the D4. See http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/dslr/d800/features01.htm

      • Roberto

        So, can’t we use FP with pop up flash?

    • Pdf Ninja

      I’m pretty sure there is Auto FP high sync, check the press release:
      http://press.nikonusa.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Nikon-D800-Press-Release-Final.pdf

      The new 91000-pixel sensor can “provide accurate face detection even through the optical viewfinder”. This is mentioned in the AF section, so I’m positive that there’s some sort of face-priority autofocus.

    • http://StevenGeorges.com Steven Georges

      Yea, the lack of Auto FP flash sync in the D800 caught my eye as well. Good to know it seems to be just an omission in the chart above as I use that all the time, it’s also an included feature in the D7000.

      danpe,
      Good point, never thought about Auto FP in the built-in flash as I don’t use it all that much.

    • Abraham Collins

      I was also disappointed to see no high speed FP… It just means I’ll stop at the two speedlights I already have and buy Einsteins + Vagabond Mini this season.

  • Earl

    I want to join the whiners on this.

    The two versions of D800 should be;

    D800 —- still photos only $2,499 & 2,799 for w/o AA Filter
    D800v —- with video $2,999 & 3,299 for w/o AA Filter

    Re-price the D700 down to $1,999

    Everyone happy!

    • http://eleventhphotograph.com elph

      Yeah except the people who buy the v version and wonder why they’re paying $500+ for video function. Why not the other way around?

      Why can’t people wrap their heads around that digital cameras with lenses are able to take both photos and videos (moving pictures) nowadays? Its 2012.

      • Been there guy

        Why can’t people understand different people has different needs?

        Still photography is and will be an art form even 200 years from now. Videos are something you wasted on youtube.

        Still photography can tell a story in one frame, why waste more frames?!

        You just want everyone to subsidize your hobby by paying for video functions still photographer would not use. This is not forward thinking, this is old fashion selfish bulling everyone to pay for your needs and wants.

        • DMc

          The Nikon D1 was released in 1999 for 5500.00 USD. In 2011 dollars that’s 7,425.96. (http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/). The D1 was ‘stills only’.

          The Leica M9 Rangefinder is ‘stills only’ today – and it only costs 6,995 so it is a steal! It is cheaper than the Ni . . .. Wait. Ummmm

          I’ll buy my D4 for 5,999 and let the video fans purchases lower the per-unit cost to me. I also refuse to pay for separate engineering of a ‘stills only’ camera. Most of the camera supports both stills and video. Mirror-up focus helps my macro live view focusing. The memory sub-system helps my high frame rate.

          • Calibrator

            “I’ll buy my D4 for 5,999 and let the video fans purchases lower the per-unit cost to me. ”

            Thanks for saying this!

            Confucius says: Some (capable) photographers err when they think that they also understand modern economy & mass markets.

        • Toby

          “will be an art form even 200 years from now”
          Of course it will still be an art form, but nobody knows if you can make a living out of it.
          As of today people are going to the movies, not to the slideshows, less and less people care about magazines, weddings are shot by the DSLR-Uncle and the only people who care about quality photographs are photographers and hobbyist photographers.

          Movies as of today are very popular amongst everyone and video is a great means to express ones feelings (a form of art).

        • Zeke

          Video adds nearly nothing to the unit cost, but it greatly broadens the D800’s appeal. A camera with a bigger market can be sold more cheaply, not the other way around.

          If anything, the video users are subsidizing the still users. What do they need with the mirror, pentaprism, or mechanical shutter?

          Still photographers need to stop complaining and realize that a DSLR is already 97% of the way toward being a video camera, and it’s a good thing that manufacturers are adding that last 3%.

        • http://eleventhphotograph.com elph

          People have different needs: And would you look at that, Nikon and Canon have managed to put both together for a relative low cost (I can guarantee you the D800 WOULD NOT be $500 cheaper just because the video function is out). Its a huge market with smart investment, it’d be stupid to leave it out.

          Youtube videos? I use my DSLR for a little more then that. And the D800 can be used in real movies for sure, live-camera with clean HD output for events, etc… You’re ignorant to a HUGE demographic because you *choose* not to use the video function. The quality is superb, and you’d have to be an idiot to say “Oh I bought this camera solely for photography, “I don’t want to and don’t have *anything* to shoot.”

          And of course photography can tell a story in one frame, but movies/videos seem to be more popular nowadays, and something I find even more challenging to do.

          Bottom line, don’t be so ignorant to the format.

    • Ad Onair

      I’m not.

      If too cheap, then every average Joe can own one, that means it will cause further shortage to the availability of the already scarce inventory.

      It is all about equilibrium.

    • Steven Georges

      Because the still only version would cost more, not less.
      Roughly for the same reason the version without the AA filter cost more, smaller market.
      The higher price would further reduce the market for such a camera, driving the camera out of existence.

  • Earl

    This way the so-called wedding/event “photographers” can have their new video tools to make them successful. They will be happy to pay for it.

    These so-called “photographers” are ALWAYS one tool away to be famous.

    It’s funny, I didn’t hear Cliff Mautner complaint about the ISO performance, or the 36MP on the D800, go figure.

    • John Richardson

      I agree Earl.
      I also agree with people who want both for what ever reason and with those who do not want video. I know, it is 2012, but some people (myself included) simply have “no interest” in video. I am not a wedding photographer by choice, I simply have no desire for that. I like macro and landscape, so for me video is just not needed. I resent the fact that if I want a D800/800E I must part with dollars for something that I KNOW I will never use.

      How do I “know” this? Because I have a D300s and a D3s and I have used the video on each camera “ONCE” and just am interested enough to come up with a use for it that will excite me.

      So, yeah, for me I would wish for a D800/800E without video. But as one says it is the future, but I just have no use or interest for it. I know I am not alone. And I wonder if Nikon took an official poll how the results would go? Nikon: Beef up the D700, make it a D800 without the video, give it a name we can understand D700S (S=stills only), leave it in the same D700 body, keep the price under the D800…just my 2 cents.

      • John Richardson

        Correction

        “just am NOT interested enough”

      • http://www.malphotography.net Michael Laing

        One of the big successes of the 5Dmk2 was its video ability, even though it was massively flawed. A huge amount of people bought the camera though and made more money for Canon because the D700 didn’t offer the same feature. Nikon now has put a lot of time and effort into creating a decent video system and by doing so is opening themselves up to a bigger customer base. To have a D800 without video just seems pointless and would probably cost more money because you are having to create a completely different camera. I personally can’t see what the hardship is. If you don’t want to use video, then don’t use it but don’t expect for a second that if Nikon created a D800 without video, it would be cheaper.

        • Emanuel Papamanolis

          Well said michael I am one of those people that had the D700 when it came out…one of my friends 2 years later bought the 5Dmk2 and and I have been waiting for Nikon to bring out a replacement for the D700 but with HD Video ….enter the D800 …what more could I want. I used to shoot Wedding Videos with SonyZ1p HD camera …great camera, old technology used tape. Being able to shoot short videos on a DSLR is very appealing to me and from what I’ve seen this will be an awesome camera to use.

      • Mutton Puncher

        Jesus John,
        Just don’t use the friggin video.
        I too am a landscape, macro and wildlife photographer. I currently don’t have a video capable camera but there have been more times I wish to count that stills I shot of wildlife events couldn’t come close to conveying what the imagery was like seeing it in motion. In other words I kick myself in the ass every time this has happened to me. I believe you are being close minded about opportunities you could be missing in the field with a video capable camera.

      • DMc

        Leica is for you. They have a M9 that does not have any Video! It goes all the way to ISO ISO 2500 and captures 18 megapixels. It only costs a 995 more than the D4 for the same resolution. You lose some high ISO, frame rate is not comparable, and you lose autofocus – but it has NO VIDEO!

        Why suffer through this Nikon crap that forces you to buy video? Leica offers S2 that captures 37.5 Megapixels that’s more resolution than this Nikon crap that forces you to buy video. You too can be a ‘stills only’ guru for only 22,995. Nikon would sell you a D800, throw in a spare, and give you a rebate if you would just buy one D800 for the ‘stills only’ price of a S2.

        Seriously, small markets are expensive. I’ll take the D4 and D800 over the Leica and laugh all the way to the bank. Heck, if I get drunk some night I may even try the video (and no, I will not be posting that).

  • Anders

    Don’t forget the wireless WT5 compatibility.
    The D800 is only compatible with the older Wt4

    • Earl

      Another genius that is one tool away to be successful!

      Nikons is actually thinking of saving you money by let you use the things you already have.

      • Brian

        But why not let all new nikon cameras interface with iOS and android devices. Think of the creative potential this might open up for their user base.

        I don’t know how the wt4 connects, but presumably it’s either via USB or hdmi in which case the d4 could use either the 4 or 5. Besides how many users of anything but the D3/4 series actually would already have a wt4. The new features and size of the wt5 would probably make it a much more widely appealing accessory. I know I’d buy one regardless of price if I’m already paying $3000 for the camera just to experiment with those new features.

  • Anonymus Maximus I

    I am really sad that the D800 has to use the old WT4 Transmitter!
    Why oh why no proper wireless connection for this otherwise superb specs.?

    • Earl

      How about the camera takes picture itself for you? You just think of an image, and wirelessly, the camera will go find that image for you, how about that?

      • alex

        Pointless if you still have to think …

  • Ralph

    Hey Admin….. What’s the big idea telling Nikon they’ve priced the better camera lower? I mean the D4 doesn’t even have a flash!

  • Orilla

    I have found some interessting post on Amazon.de:

    Der Nachfolger der legendären Nikon D700. Mit 36 Megapixeln, Full-HD Videos und Batteriegriff.

    That means that the D800 replace the D700.

    LG

    • 700Geek

      Written by someone that did not know what he/she was talking about.

  • M!

    NR admin, you left out the most important part:
    the light-up buttons on the D4. ;D

    • Zoot

      I wear a miner’s helmet when I’m shooting with my D700 at night, so it will be easy for me to adapt to the D800.

      Light-up buttons on a camera? They just look stupid.

      • B!

        Everything is stupid until it’s included free of charge. Come on.

  • Dominik Fusina

    Clearly, NIKON made a mistake : the D800 will be available before the D4. With similar specs (except ISO, shutter speed…), NIKON users (pro or experts) can hesitate : do you want to pay twice expensive just ’cause you are “pro” photographer ??? I’ve already got a D3s and I tell me that a D800 will replace very well my second reflex (D300) instead of buying a D4, finally so expensive.
    NIKON, you’re sacrifying your PRO users (as Apple strategy !) !!!

    • Abraham Collins

      Most people won’t buy the D800 if all it can do is 4 frames per second; that’s the one defining feature that will get professionals to shell out the extra $3k.

  • Alexander

    There is one more difference: viewfinder eyepoint, which is a sad 18 mm on the D4 and a lousy 17 mm on the D800. That is not “high eyepoint” anymore, the good times of the F3HP, F4, F100 are gone.

  • Kabouter buttplug

    Strange why the top end range doesnt have a silver shutter button. It looks much better and more professional. I have a d80 and it still has a silver one.

    I also mensioned that the d800 with grip will be much bigger than the d4.

  • NikonCEO

    Spoiler…….D800 is just a stepping stone…..we are releasing MX next year…..grinnn

  • Jojo

    Nikon has a page giving compatibility information for the D800 models –

    http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/dslr/d800/compatibility02.htm

    – which contains the following:

    Noise in the form of horizontal lines may appear in pictures taken with AF-S Zoom Nikkor 24-85 mm f/3.5-4.5G (IF) lenses at ISO sensitivities over 6400; use manual focus or focus lock.

    Any ideas what causes this effect?

    • Sahaja

      If they are telling is to use mf, that sounds like there must be some kind of interference generated by the focusing mechanism of that lens which may cause noticeable lines on images at taken at high iso.

  • Nicole

    It strikes me that many who are complaining about the price differences are forgetting one very important point. The D4 is built to take a lot more abuse than the D800. The camera body, components used and water/dust seals etc. are more substantial. All of this extra engineering and use of heavier duty components costs money.

    • Mutton Puncher

      Good point Nicole, + the 400,000 to 200,000 shutter life.

  • VCT

    UPDATE THE Nikon Buying Guide OP!!

  • http://galleries.gorji.com/ Gorji

    There are other differences between the two; I’ll state one which will probably be true:
    The D4 will “mold” to your hand because its bigger and less crammed.
    The D800 is a smaller camera; less buttons on it but still smaller and less space for a grip. So I think the D4 will “feel” more natural to hold. Nikon engineers pointed to this feature in an earlier interview featured here on NR.

    The other major difference is the battery life.

    Finally would like to thank NR for the great coverage. I think the name of this site should be change to Nikon News and Rumor.

    • Eric

      Had a chance to hold both today at CP+ in Yokohama.

      I also thought I would prefer the ergonomics of D4, but found myself liking the D800 more. When holding the D4 vertically it seemed somewhat easy for it to slip out of my hands.

      Seems like the grip for the d800 will also be a little more substantial – more to hold on to – as well.

      • http://galleries.gorji.com/ Gorji

        Good to know. Thanks.

  • http://www.lynchphoto.com KnoWell

    A D400 with the D4 chip.
    $2,700.00

  • Stefano Pera

    When it’s official, the new D400??? :)

    • mikils

      What a $ 2700 camera with a $ 6000 sensor? It will NEVER happen.

      • Zeke

        People said nearly the exact same thing one hour before the original D700 was announced.

  • simpleguy

    no one of us can really say what are the differences based on specs , you gotta to hold it feel it , and see the pics who come out of it , there are huge differences in sensors i can only presume between those two cameras , one is 16mp and the other 36mp
    and how different are they from each other no one will know until they compare it and show us , side by side , but from the specs you can know much less

  • http://breningstall.com JB

    I suppose they’re saving 36 megapixels for the D800 because 36 megapixels is better quality, LOL.

  • Andrés Bott

    in the d800 specs, to the flash modes, there is no reference to Auto FP High-Speed Sync put as you are comparing to the d4 where it says: Auto FP High-Speed Sync supported, it makes you think the d800 has no auto fp but thast not the case:
    http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/dslr/d800/spec.htm

  • http://www.photoway.com/ Photoway

    Hi,

    The D4 have the voice recording memo option, I think, right ?

    Also the Sync flash is FP with external flash (I hope)

    Richard

  • http://jimgatesphotography.com jim gates

    So I’m thinking I’ll sign up for the D800 today. As a professional shooter, my cameras have been the d100, d200, d300, d700. To be honest, I’ve always preferred this line for a few reasons, first and foremost the 1/2 price feature.
    I’m a bit concerned however that the file size from the 36MP is going to throw a wrench in my workflow. I easily shoot more than 100,000 frames a year. My current computer is an imac 2.8 ghz i7 with 8 gb ram. I work off of external Western digital harddrives.
    Can anyone give me an idea of how much longer it will take lightroom/photoshop to process these files? Can anyone suggest ways to speed up the process, short of spending $1000s on a mac pro with thunderbolt? I could upgrade to 16gb ram quite easily…
    Any suggestions will be appreciated, thanks!

    • BVH

      @Jim
      As a professional, you need pro equipment, ESPECIALLY a pro mac (or mac pro as they say). Imacs and laptops dont have the high speed architecture Mac Pros do. They have fast processors, but everything else isn’t comparable. If you bought a 6, 8, 12 core Mac Pro with a minimum of 24GB ram, internal 7200 or 10,000 rpm drives, preferably in a RAID for speed, and you’d be good for at least 5 years. Thunderbolt is like 100x the bandwith of normal external drives, so it all adds up. If you’re not going to leap forward, get 16GB ram in your imac, and Firewire 800 external drives. The best comparison is to say – a souped up Honda street racer is fast, but it’s not in the same league as a Nascar racer.

      • http://amusingfool.blogspot.com/ AMusingFool

        Mmm… Some of that’s right, some isn’t. I’d bet that the iMac is fine for another year or two (although I’d look into upgrading the RAM to 16GB).

        I’d definitely think about getting a drive array of some sort (within a Mac Pro, or an external unit). I have a synology unit I’m very happy with, and I hear very good things about qnap as well.

        One thing to keep in mind about the Mac Pros is that they’re kind of long in the tooth, having not been updated in … I think a year and a half. So, no USB 3 or Thunderbolt. (Although they do have PCI Express slots, so you could probably add an aftermarket USB 3 card.)

        (To be clear, you will see performance improvements going to the Mac Pro, but probably not enough to justify the cost. When they come out with a new model Mac Pro (assuming they do; this is the longest they’ve ever gone between upgrades), that will probably no longer be the case.)

      • Ron Mckitrick

        Be sure to convert to DNG… Adobe is doing some good stuff to have LR4 work fast on DNG files… at least I think so… if I understood what I read :-)

  • pokio

    THEY LOOK GREAT FOR A FIRST VIEW!!

  • nat davies

    I would never use the D800 in the studio I’ve professional camera’s for that.

    I’m very disappointed in this offering, I was after Dynamic range in my next gen SLR kit. This latest Nikon trade off is unworkable, Second rate D800 chips or an oversized D4.

    Nikon for years but, I’ll shop elsewhere now thankyou.

  • Doug

    Sony probably offered the New sensor at a special price, so this way the only thing nikon had to do was to put their slot in the D4, simple.

    • Henry

      Yep, that’s it my thoughts to – they traded this in the doorway – but it seems logical too, pros with a bunch of CF’s can keep em and sometime the future when XQD prices drop buy XQD cards :)

      I need some reviews of this D800 soon – I’m not to sure I want one, I might rather save up to a D4 which is the “real” replacement for my D700 ;) D800 is a new beast, beautifull but not what I need from what I have read so far.

  • vyaktha

    its asking me to install some yandex bar , is that how i download this?. dont know russian was trying to use google translate

    • derfre

      No you need only to imput the catcha code and click red button

      • derfre

        *Green button

  • ken

    Ethernet connectivity is the win for the D4!! don’t know why they didn’t port it over to the D800 though..pfft.

    • http://amusingfool.blogspot.com/ AMusingFool

      Lack of physical space for the port? That’d be my guess.

      But it might have been part of keeping the D800 from impacting D4 sales.

  • Robert DeCuir

    The Nikon D700 has 4 custom setting banks and 4 programable shooting banks these can be handy features. Does either the D4 or D800 have these features and, if so, how many programable selections are possible?

    • Zeke

      The two separate kinds of banks is my biggest gripe about the D3. I’m surprised Nikon stuck with this clunky arrangment.

      The D4 needed a dedicated user-mode button that could be used to recall _all_ camera settings in a single operation. Perhaps this is possible with a custom control assignment.

  • http://www.lhp-online.com Leroy

    A couple of observations and questions….

    Frame buffer – How many RAW frames can the camera buffer? I hope its more than 10 like the d7000 or that if you use a fast CF card or a fast SD card that the camera can write frames as fast as the camera can take them.

    Flash – There is no specific mention of commander mode capability for flash separate from mentioning CLS compatibility. The D7000 lists commander mode separate from CLS capability. If the pop up flash will not include commander mode then the pop up flash will be basically useless to most people.

    In terms of internal frame buffer capacity, I would be good with 10 raw frames similar to the d7000 as most people including myself would not typically need more than 10 raw frames in a camera that is not based on super high ISO market positioning, but I would like the option to send the camera in and pay to have the internal frame buffer capability increased from 10 to about 60. I opened a support case with Nikon to suggest that they offer this as a service to the D7000 owners as a way to generate a little more revenue from already sold units.
    In my case I would like to take a trip to photograph bald eagles and bears snatching salmon from the river and in that case I would like a larger buffer as its not as easy to predict ‘the moment’. Its not just night sports photographers that can occasionally benefit from a larger buffer and I would be happy to pay a fair fee to upgrade the buffer on my cameras.

    • http://amusingfool.blogspot.com/ AMusingFool

      16-21 RAW image buffer, depending on depth and compression.

      And I doubt they’d offer a service to increase it. Too likely to cut into D4 sales.

  • broxibear

    Nikon UK confirms delay to some D4 orders…
    “In a statement Nikon UK told Amateur Photographer (AP) today: ‘Due to overwhelming popularity of, and demand for, the D4, we will not be able to fulfil all order quantities in time for the agreed sales start date.
    ‘Please be assured that we’re working incredibly hard to prepare the orders and we will deliver them as soon as we can without compromising on quality.’
    At the time of writing, there was no official word on when those who now face a delay can expect to receive their new camera.
    Nikon has yet to comment on rumours that the D4 has been hit by a firmware bug.”
    http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/Nikon_confirms_delay_to_some_D4_orders_news_311397.html

  • Crimed

    Has anyone seen high ISO samples from the D4? I’d really like to know what ISO 204,800 looks like (or maybe not!). As I mentioned before the D4 with its touted high ISO performance was announced first, but the only 100% samples we are seeing are from the D800. What gives?

  • broxibear

    Here are some of the first images from CP+ Camera & Photo Imaging Show 2012…
    http://nipponnews.photoshelter.com/gallery/CP-Camera-Photo-Imaging-Show-2012/G0000DEc9OV8s9s0

  • John

    How about comparing a Phase One P30+ to a D800? See how the 36.3 mp fx compares with a low end medium format. I’d like to see sample pics. This would be very interesting.

    • ArthurNava

      +1
      This would be very interesting indeed.

  • JarJar

    Crap.

    The more i read about the 800 the more it’s obvious that this is a “studio” camera, meant to offer up a viable alternative to medium format.

    Like many, I’ve been waiting or the “next” 700: small body, FX, awesome low-light, VIDEO, etc (GPS would be nice).

    This is obviously a friggin great camera, but… seems like a very specific camera.

    Dumb question: might the D400 be the one some of us are waiting for?

    • http://www.lhp-online.com Leroy

      So if the following is true….
      D4 replaces the D3s
      D800 replaces the D700

      Then what about a replacement for the D3x? This would seem to me to be the sweet spot for a half way point between the D800 high MP and the D4 high ISO. I still think that 24mix is the sweet spot and where I would like my next camera to be.

  • FeignPhoto

    People are arguing about equipment most don’t even understand.

    The D4 is meant for photojournalists, sport shooters, NASA, and photographers who need a reliable camera in extreme environments.

    The D800 is for all the other genres of photography.

  • BVH

    What I hear too often is reviewers stating the D800 is ‘like’ medium format quality, I’d like to see a real test against a Pentax 645D medium format digital camera. The truth is a medium format digital camera sensor is a lot bigger than on the D800, and a film mf camera frame is even larger than the digital. I’ve always heard you actually do get what you pay for in any medium format camera, but is the D800 now close enough to be suitable for non-critical studio work?

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