Comments on: Nikon EVIL patents from Japan

By: Digitalux

Digitalux — Wed, 02 Jun 2010 11:46:25 +0000

Nikon has already the technologies tested over time (meaning quite a lot of R&D already done with the QV-mount system and its superb fast lenses (1.6 fixed, f:2 zooms) and the Reduction Optical System “ROS”.
Add an EVIL body and Nikon is in a good position to deliver something new, performing and without starting from scratch (costwise); also with standard F-Mount lenses compatibility.

Could be big…

By: Digitalux

Digitalux — Wed, 02 Jun 2010 11:27:22 +0000

Already done by Nikon in their early digital series.

By: Astrophotographer

Astrophotographer — Tue, 01 Jun 2010 05:47:14 +0000

A key point to me about the mount patent is just that, it’s a patent. No third party lenses unless they get a license from Nikon.

Everything points to Nikon is working to bring this to market.

By: David Hasselblaff

David Hasselblaff — Mon, 31 May 2010 20:36:10 +0000

Uhm, then how did it work with bodies like the F2 in the past? I never knew anybody complaining about weight distribution.

By: ArtTwisted

ArtTwisted — Mon, 31 May 2010 20:06:06 +0000

Will never happen. Nikon and Canon can already make a pro small DSLR if they wanted too but they dont. Pros that use lenses which weigh 2 – 10 pounds need a big heavy body to balance that and thus the D3. Have you ever used a 70-200 2.8 pm a EPL1 ? just on a D90 it wont balance as it is even with the grip.

By: Djonah

Djonah — Mon, 31 May 2010 19:59:54 +0000

that’s indeed more something people would buy!!! for serious shooters this would be heaven…I allready posted this thing on the forum…an FE body equiped with an FX sensor! c’mon Nikon!!!

By: kumo

kumo — Mon, 31 May 2010 19:29:56 +0000

Eventually EVIL will replace DSLR like film is replaced by digital. If they can make EVEL small enough, it can be used for DSLR size body. My predict is that first EVEL camera will be the high end compact digital. Then they will produce DSLR version i.e. F-mount with reasonable size of body (like D3000ish).

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 31 May 2010 18:30:31 +0000

“it’s a super compact with removable lens”
yes thats it right there. its about picking a lens that fits the needs for the day. will it replace DSLR or DMF? for some yes! for most, no way in hell!
I find the prospect of a small system interesting. for me this camera could fill my need for a carry everywhere P&S options (I dont have any P&S now) with better controls (hopefully) and good IQ. also if this becomes a shutter less camera it will be one less thing to break and add to the life span of the camera.
I would already own a m43 if there prime lens list was more comprehensive. or if sony had a EVF, better controls and a longer prime coming…

By: heartyfisher

heartyfisher — Mon, 31 May 2010 17:17:53 +0000

Wouldn’t be too hard to make a reverse TC to shorten the focal length and distance to focus plane.

By: Jose

Jose — Mon, 31 May 2010 14:30:08 +0000

Anonymous: A such as you are requesting new Dsrl with more megapixels other people like to have an evil camera from nikon.

Probably you have seen many people with entry level DSRL camera, from others manufacturer such Pentax, Olympus, etc Try to focus using lcd instead of mirror, evil camera shuoulb be for this kind of people.

On the other hand, this is a confirmation that nikon did not stop their research.

By: Greenwood_Geoff

Greenwood_Geoff — Mon, 31 May 2010 14:09:07 +0000

No interest whatsoever for me in anything except a DSLR. I like my larger size camera.

By: jim

jim — Mon, 31 May 2010 14:07:54 +0000

In order to get one, you have to make a deal and sign in BLOOD RED!!!! It’ll be a great deal, until you read the fine print.

By: Canon Fangirly

Canon Fangirly — Mon, 31 May 2010 11:56:41 +0000

“basically a poor man’s Leica”

That’s what Nikon used to be. Just that Nikon’s M9 should be the D3 series, which is way too big and heavy. It cannot be that difficult to build a lightweight pro body like in the old days. And what is it with the sensors? Why on earth should a pro be forced to use only digital Kodachrome 200? It is about time for interchangeable sensors.

By: Canon Fangirly

Canon Fangirly — Mon, 31 May 2010 11:48:36 +0000

I think it will be called Nikon LoonyPix coming from the Japanese 躁鬱.

By: zeke

zeke — Mon, 31 May 2010 09:43:30 +0000

why don’t we get something built up from this system?
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3040/2952233446_337eeda988.jpg

By: Talkontar

Talkontar — Mon, 31 May 2010 08:53:32 +0000

Why do everybody talk about EVIL as an alternative for dSLR? Well, for P&S crowd this may be true, but for dSLR users it should be considered as an addition not next step. From this point of view Nikon’s idea is great, because I want something really small, not huge lenses of NEX and quite big bodies from m4/3 or Samsung. And I don’t care about high ISO, so small sensor is fine with me. Reason is simple – if I want to shoot seriously or in hard conditions I’ll take my dSLR. If I want to live my heavy equipment at home, but be prepared for some casual shooting I’ll take EVIL. My only requirements are: really small lenses (nothing like Sony), really small body (nothing like Samsung or some Panasonics), manual controls with dials (like Olympus with the exceptions of E-PL1, nothing like Sony), hot shoe for my sb-400 (nothing like sony) and great evf (like EP-2). Lenses, well I thought about possible use of EVIL in my case:
- party or pub – fast 35mm equivalent with external flash
- short tele for casual portraits when I’m sightseeing with UWA on my dSLR
- UWA when I’m biking or hiking.
To be honest Olympus EP-2 with Panasonic lenses: 20/1.7, 7-14/4, 45/2.8 are all I want from EVIL. But this set is a little bit too expensive for casual shooting and a little bit too big in size to be perfect. So, I’m waiting for Nikon. If Nikon won’t offer the exact same thing as combined Olympus and Panasonic set above, but in smaller form and cheaper price I’ll go for m4/3. By that time I hope prices will drop a little.

By: Catastrophile

Catastrophile — Mon, 31 May 2010 08:37:58 +0000

when the customer base of the consumer grade m4/3 or Nikon-EVIL becomes large enough there will certainly be a market for a more pro-ish mirrorless cameras. i hope it won’t take too long before we see something mirrorless that is as appealing to enthusiasts as the D90 is in the DSLR world, current mirrorless cameras are more like D3000 or at best D5000.

By: rich

rich — Mon, 31 May 2010 08:24:21 +0000

gear acquisition syndrome.

people are always looking for the next flavor of the month, for the next cool thing. these evil cameras are pretty horrible, lowest of low end, and they require a separate bag. you may as well just buy a canon s90 to use alongside your dslr, and skip this evil nonsense – that’s what smart people do, at least.

By: Desinderlase

Desinderlase — Mon, 31 May 2010 07:36:02 +0000

I think it would be better to have medium format mirrorless camera. Mirrorbox is huge on those things…

By: Worminator

Worminator — Mon, 31 May 2010 07:27:18 +0000

Sony NEX is APS-C, same as most dSLRs, and therefore the lenses are pretty much the same size too, except for the wide angles – they benefit from being able to use the space vacated by the mirror box.

The Nikon system is (presumed) to be 1″, about 4 times smaller than APS-C and 4 times larger than today’s high end compacts. To me it’s a much more interesting proposition as it splits the image quality vs. size debate straight down the middle as it were.

Likely the body – for useability considerations – won’t be much smaller than the GF-1, but the lenses, especially the telephotos and zooms, could be a lot smaller than even micro 4/3.