D4000
The rumor is that one of the Nikon DSLRs to be released this year will be falling in between the D3000 and D5000 models. I am not sure what this will mean in terms of features/specifications, but I think the model will be called D4000.
[NR] probability rating: 50%
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Yawn.
Second yawn.
so it will have 12Mpix, but picture quality like D40x, display will only flap down a little and be still bad. Will shoot videos at 15fps too. To make sure nikon dont canibalize Sony sales, they will also make live view yet a bit worse then it is and viewfinder will be made from spare keyholes.
One big yawn.
Yawn Yawn YAWNNNNNN
great… another paper weight
Good one o:
yeah…i’m not impressed.
Whatever a D4000 might be, it’s got to be better than another Coolpix. But please, Admin, throw us another D900/700s bone. We’re hungry for a juicy FX rumor!
Just a thought: I would find it a little strange to have products differ by only one trailing zero. For instance, having products named D80 and D800 would just confuse customers. Same with D40, D4000 and…D400! I find it a little strange that the D3000 (or D5000) would see a replacement so quickly, could it instead be a rumor about a D300 replacement? I seem to be arguing against myself here, since a D400 would get confused with the D40…but just throwing out an idea…
This is so very kind of you: Just throwing up on me.
(Just kidding)
Since the advent of the DSLR line, Nikon had always done this. Lowest level at 4-digits, next up at 2-digits (although they seemed to have used those up), then 3-digits, then 1-digit for the pro line.
Can’t say it all makes logical sense, but “we” know what it means.
I totally agree with you. But It looks like they are trying to fixe this, from D(x) top of the line to D(xxxx) the cheapest one. However it’s going to take a will until all models became coherent.
I also think there isn’t enough gap between D3000 and aD5000 for a new model. Most probably this is a new D300
I really don’t think there is a need for something between the D3000 and the D5000… Something between the D90 and the D300 will be nicer, I think.
I couldn’t agree more. Or at least an update to the D90.
a replacement for a D90 is coming eventually, what does it have to do with this rumor? and btw entry-level is a huge market, now that almost anyone can afford a DSLR everybody wants to be a super-pro photog so they are going to buy the D4000, carry it around proudly and shoot in auto mode while complaining there’s not enough FX rumors
Your are right. A D4000 with full HD (1080) for the entry-level-market an consumers shooting video of their babies, pussy cats or whatever makes great economical sense.
I don’t want it, but I don’t mind. Just want to see Nikon moving. Bring it on.
That would definitely be my expectation, a D4000 being a D3000 with a slight bump in the processor speed necessary to support full 1080i HD.
Might possibly be a sensor upgrade as well if the production situation favors it. With the D4 series on the horizon, bumping the old D90 sensor onto the D4000 would make sense.
The D40/D40x were good little cameras. Small, light, uncomplicated. For most of the market that is exactly what they want. More interesting perhaps is what a D4000 would mean for the D5000, would it simply disappear? Perhaps with the D90 due for replacement there will not be so much room in the range.
please…maybe if we keep saying that line it’ll come true.
Fully agree. I don’t see the point of a D4000 either.
But maybe the sales numbers suggest that in the entry level market you can’t have enough models …
I’m not into Nikon models but I just assume that the next gen would had been D4000 and D6000 and that D6000 would be better than D5000 and D4000. Whatever D4000 would be an inbetween modell between D3000 and D5000 or just “worse than D6000″ doesn’t matter much then.
And I assume it would be better than D5000 in some way because it would be newer.
Of course there’s no “need” for it.
However, Nikon makes money with these entry level bodies..
When Nikon releases a new body its always to compete with other brands by making their bodies better or like the D3000 and possibly the D4000, making more money by rebranding some old technology..
The D4000 is probably a D3000 with video.
Unless the D3000 is “bombing”.
Sorry to disappoint you folks but those are the latest rumors.
No worries some people are looking for an entry level dSLR or a back up keep reporting on it i’m interested.
Wow….your crystal ball really hit the nail on the head here. NO ONE saw that coming.
The rumor again is that the entry level body will be between the D3000 and the D5000. If this was a known fact, please let me know – I must have missed something
If Nikon continues to lure the semi-pro crowd without the wow factor they will end up being a pro line only. Canon will knock them off because they simply have more bucks to throw at it. The fact that Nikon relies on Sony spells trouble. Nikon needs more resolution with better circuitry and chipsets at a competitive price with improved lenses that don’t cost three times the body. I don’t think Nikon is keyed into the consumer the way Canon is. Nikon is a pro line with nothing to offer the average buyer who counts splashy numbers.
I don’t need more resolution.
it’s not that we’re dissapointed, but if you’re going to throw out something as a new camera D400 is coming out, atleast give us some more content other than simply stating that a new camera is coming out. Otherwise, you can arbitrarily throw out there that a d4, or a d700x is coming out.
furthermore, is it a coincidence that the day you release probably the most obvious rumor that you take out the dislike button? i would have pushed that thing like theres no tommorow.
The old like voting system was removed last week (Saturday). Why? You just answered that question: “I would have pushed that thing like theres no tommorow.” Now you cannot do that unless you have multiple facebook accounts
I still get a lot of reports that the D700 will be replaced in 2011 (3 years replacement schedule) and I still don’t believe it. Either way I do not have any “good” news for now.
Admin, How long did it take for the D700 to come out after the D3 was released? (That D700 replacement isn’t popping its shinny little head anytime soon before the D4 comes out) Also, do you think Nikon will go for higher MP than just 18 MP with newer AF system but same ISO performance as D3s and 1080i just to compete with the Mark IV? Or do you think they will just stick with 18 MP and compete with Canon’s specs? I can imagine Nikon will gain the upper hand if they just up the MP to 21.5 MP and revise the AF system (which is already superior to Canon’s system) and tweak ISO performance. 1080i will be the norm on the D4 but a more cinematographer oriented camera will be on the D4s. I’m really curious to hear your insights on this…
I think there was 1 year between D3 and D700
By then Canon will have released the 5D MK III. If they should get the autofocus right, Nikon will have their hands full.
Sooner or later Canon is going to get things right and then Nikon will have to suffer the consequences of their slower product development cycle.
Right now it seems that the portion of the nature/wildlife crowd that shoots moving things have adopted a lot of Nikon kit, but the segment that is predominantly landscape/things that don’t move much still has a strong Canon following. The new Canon 24mm tilt-shift lens will hold them in the mean time.
You worry too much about what Nikon is doing and what Canon is doing.
It’s not your fault. You’re doing a great job with what you have to work with – please keep it up!
What the heck? 2011? Nikon want all of us who want to upgrade our D700 to buy a D3S if we can’t wait?
or the D3X
I think some of you should spend a little time reading the Canon blogs before complaining about MP. Those guys are all complaining that Canon can’t compete with Nikon in color, noise and ISO so they try to make up for it with MP and frame rate. If you have a D90, D300 or D700 just use it, enjoy it and know that it still has far superior color and high ISO performance to the similar Canons. Would you rather that Nikon rushed out something that takes worse pictures than the model it replaced (50D vs 40D)? I am salivating for the D700 replacement too, but my D300 and D90 still take better photos than anything from Canon short of a 5D4. That is not speculation, my uncle uses a 7D and he even admits that my lowly D90 has better low light performance than his camera. And the D3s has crushed the 1Ds. Let’s keep looking forward, but know that the Canon guys envy you and think that we are all snobs looking down on them, so act like it.
I had a typo in the above post. I wrote “my D300 and D90″. I meant to write “the D300 and D90″. I own a D90 but occasionally rent a D300 for the mirror lock up and 9 frame auto bracketing. I have seen no reason to upgrade since the picture quality is identical. Sorry for the rant.
Well I guess if your uncle says so …
He admits it, reluctantly, after spending a lot of time comparing shots taken in the same conditions. Below 800 ISO the 7D has an edge, 800 and over it develops more noise and has lose of sharpness. Again, this is not speculation. Maybe he has a bad sample, but I doubt it. BTW I am an old Canon user and like them alot, but I like the color and ease of use on Nikons.
Well, from time to time I did some reading there too.
My impression is slightly different to yours. Right now they celebrate that their 70-200 apparently performs even slightly better than its Nikon equivalent. Regarding IQ of sensors and bodies a major concern I found among the comments was, that Nikon is not moving away from 12 MP policy for quite a while now, leading to fears, that Canon will rest on its laurels longer than technically and R&D-wise necessary.
Act like snob an be silly if you want. Equipment is just plain tools to me, nothing to show of with.
Both Hogan and Lammerse expect a new camera this Summer. A bit odd time period for a D700 follow up. Maybe the evil surprise we are waiting for ?
this just means Nikon does not have a sensor yet. They do not want to use the D3s sensor for the next D700 model. I think they are waiting another year to give you 20mp FX camera.. the D4will be 24 mp..
If that were the case, Nikon would haven’t done any rebates on D700+lenses.
Why not call it a D4999.
Agree, no worries! I appreciate the job you do bringing us rumors of anything Nikon.
Something in between a D3000 and a D5000 is an unbelievably ridiculous idea. I hope it’s not true (For Nikon’s sake, not mine, because I took off to Canon’s DSLR a while ago anyway, because couldn’t stand the stupidity with which Nikon is dealing with video in their cameras. Still no 1080p and no Manual Controls!!!).
If you are a canon user, why are you getting worked about this? Go shoot your canon camera.
Also, 3 DSLRs are supposed to drop at the same time – and this is only one of them. Even less reason to get worked up.
Well, I don’t remember hearing they would be dropped “at the same time”…
They just said “in 2010″, didn’t they?
I still shoot film in Nikon, and have a bunch of lenses. So I’m still part of that world.
what do you mean no manual controls? D3s has full manual controls for video…
This is the truth. The Canon 5d/7d market, user base, hype, productions, third-party addons etc is snowballing into this huge industry – all because these 2 cameras can shot pro-quality 1080p. There is a revolution happening, and Nikon are no where in sight.
Nowhere in sight? The Hanson video was shot with nikon lenses
Interesting that they would create a product that is “not as good” as the D5000 when a whole new line of sensors is expected to drop….
How does that quite make sense?
Probably a D3000 priced and size camera with the D300/D90/D5000 sensor for people who don’t want swivel.
I think that would be a great idea!
People can complain about small&cheap consumer cams all day long, but when the rubber hits the road, a D3000 with the D90 sensor would be wonderful for many uses.
The D90 sensor is still after all this time the best APS-C sensor of all manufacturers, if you trust dxo, and a D3000 with this sensor would
be a great travel cam: Cheap enough to not worry about it being stolen,
but yet good enough to basically get the picture quality of a professional
D300. And light enough to carry it around all day.
man this is pathetic. Admin, please delete!
Hello guys. I ‘ve talked to the guys who make the movie with the D3s in Barcelona. He Said that there will be nothing new at the photokina 2010!!!! Ahhh! Bad News!!
Sounds great ! ! !
Gives us almost 1.5 years time to have some “and there is no need to, because Nikon is great and MP is unequal IQ”-talking here in the comment sections. This will be so much fun, much better than shooting.
this rumor rating: [.005%]
Somebody is spreading rumors that the D700 will not be replaced. I have heard that already a dozen times from different sources and I have written about it but still do not believe it – I think this is done by sell reps who have to meet their quota.
No possible way our camera store would stock the D3000, 4000, and 5000. The only reason some people buy the 5000 over the 3000 is for the video, thats it folks. Another camera would just confuse the line even more. Also enough with the ridiculous naming nikon, i love your cameras but it confuses the heck out of ordinary people. TBF canon is no better in that regards.
You got a point about confusing the customers, but I could see this D4000 replacing the D5000. I would see adding an audio in connection, some other features and keep it priced under the Canon T1i by a few pennies and it could hurt Canon Rebel sales.
Mark
What utter tosh. The D3000 and the D5000 have difference sensors; the D5000 shares the same sensor as the D90. Additionally, it has improved frame rate, higher ISO capability and tilting screen. So, not just additional video as you mistakenly quote.
I actually sell these cameras to ordinary people for a large portion of my income, trust me, to the retirees and that 15 year old girls mom the difference is video. Im not talking about what I think about the cameras, im saying what will sell in the store I work in. Read what im saying before you get upset.
ArtTwisted,
I believe you. I use to do photo sales and what buyers think can result in sales that often do not make sense.
Mark
Just a thought, D4000 to replace both D3000 & D5000 by having 1080 video + D5000 features. This would leave room for an EVIL type camera between the D4000 and the Coolpixs.
if it completely replaced both lines, I’d be cool with that!
+1 good point
maybe a cheap EVIL
I agree with that thought.. because there is too little difference between the D5000 and D90 line. If the D4000 replaces the D5000+D3000 It would make a nice comfortable space for a D90 replacement. ie back to the old D40 and D70 levels.
Still it would go against the current trend. in which case the D4000 would be a replacement only for the D3000 ie a D3000 with the D5000 sensor. leaving space for another D5000 replacement with similar specs to a D90 replacement.
thanks!
some new model is better than none.
although many of readers (and me) ‘d like to see d800 soon.
One zero too much
second that!
between d3000 & d5000. dun bother launch it. canon 550d alredy outperform d90.
There is no omnibus test. You have to qualify that statement. In some respects (e.g., MP, video ), yes, but, in others (IQ, DR), no.
CRAP
D4000!?!??!??!?!?!??!!?!??!”!?!?!?!?!?!??!?’ WHOOTHEHELLWANTSIT????!?!?!!??!!?
I bilieve nikon is a Japanese/Asian company. The number 4 is rarely use to Market a product in Asia. It is not used because it can be pronounced to mean death. So a d4000 or a d4 may not be the next number up.
However, the number 8 is a widely used number to mean prosperity. I think the next number may be an 8 somewhere. But it will be the coolest product…
That’s only what I’ve noticed anyways… We’ll wait and see…I’d get a d800 or d8 anytime…
Saying that…I own a d40….and it’s a good camera…so i might be BS-ing…
I call BS on this, they’ve already created the D40 which was one of their most popular SLRs ever. So much for superstition.
Not to mention the famous F4 35mm camera.
Finally! I’m waiting for a replacment of the D3000 with the D90 sensor. I need the extra step of ISO but the D5000 is to big.
Yep D3000 with the 12mp CMOS sensor sounds good to me too.
the d5000 is tiny. what the hell is wrong with you?
The D5000 is huge compared to a D40.
It’s not so fun to have these huge bodies in my backpack when i’m travelling. Give me a digital EM or FM3a
An affordable bottom of the range Nikon DSLR. Great beginners camera with autofocus 720p HD video. What kid wouldn’t want that in his Xmas hamper? There is a God.
For the fact that Canon is running circles around Nikon right now, Nikon seems really slow and bringing in competition to the 5DMarkII or 7D. Its a little bit disappointing. The D300s and D90′s video is a disgrace and going all the way to a D3s, sorry Nikon that is not going to happen even for many professionals. They really have to wake up if they don’t want to lose out on this one.
If I could afford to make a clean jump to Canon, I would have done already. And I just don’t mean FX, actually I like the DX and I got used to it over he years, but the D300s is just not good enough ( in digital terms its an ancient camera ).
So please Nikon, get your things together and grace us with a nice DX upgrade still this year then I’m your friend again. But right now I’m wavering.
not good enough for what?
Unfortunately, I agree. The Nikon is losing the train of semi-professional machine.
Nikon D700 and D300s are not superior or even equivalent to the Canon 5D or 7D. It is a shame because I like a lot of Nikon and I would not change. Hurry NIKON
Yes they are not EQUIVALENT ON VIDEOS!!
Why are you still here then?
Hold a 7d in your hand, then hold a D300s, i promise you that you will notice the very big difference. The D300 is an incredible machine and the D700 is its big brother.
April data for Japan.
http://bcnranking.net/Digital%20SLR%20Cameras%20ranking
@Gusto.. this be the link to the ranking you mentioned below?
Ohhh, what happend with the marvellous Canon Camera with a lot MP they were selling worst than nikon aged cameras ???. some one wrote in old post, nikon have 35% of the market for 7 camera models, may be most of the sales are in low levels segment, D90, D5000, D3000.
Other question, How somebody can explain that more expensive camera with less Megapixel are selling better than others mentioned in this post?
That was me, and yes I think it would be safe to assume that the under $1,000 models are the lion share of all sales. Most likely true of Canon as well.
Nikon is starting to look at lenses as that is the bigger growth area as people buy new DSLRs. If the ratio of DSLR sales is 4:1 consumer to pro, then you can expect that they will concentrate their lens advancements in that same area. It makes brilliant business sense regardless of what those around here think.
Jose,
Just to let you know, presently Nikon’s D3000 sells for less than the lowest cost Canon Rebel (the XS) by about $40 to $50.
Also, the D5000 is the lowest costing Nikon with video ability and the Canon T1i (500D) cost about $50 to $70 more, again Nikon is the better price.
I think many people are seeing Nikon makes great cameras and that they can save a few dollars.
Mark
Right… One D90, D5000 and D300 senzor in one D3000 package. This is one “big surprize” for me.
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Many of you are missing some important info.
Do you know the D90, D5000 and D3000 are running circles around Canon’s T2i, T1i and 7D in terms of market share within the Japanese market? See April sales figures in BCNRanking. As a Japanese market, Nikon pays a lot of attention to their local market.
It’s rare for Canon’s latest Rebel to own less than 20% of market share within the first six months of its launch. This should tell you something… Nikon is definitely doing something right.
I am not surprised Nikon replaces their D3000 with D4000.
Go, Nikon, go…
1) Japan isn’t the world. Also, the T2i is very new on the market, I’d be interested to see what time period the data was collected over, and how they stack up going forward (April figures could mean for data collected in March, T2i was just becoming available in Mar).
2) The 7D is taking the D300s to the woodshed in sales, as the 5D II is the D700.
wow!…is d3000 upgraping to d4000 like entry level???
D4000 is an entry level FX camera … with video …
I Need know news about the new Nikon FX.
Canon cleaner market with the 5D and 7D … Nikon needs to make a best move.
I want change my Nikon D70
uhhhh. cleaner? I guess you haven’t seen any 800+ ISO 7D photos LOL! also it isn’t an FX sensor. Learn english or at least make sense.
D4000 is another entry level machine, and nikon need better moves on D300S and D700
They don’t sell enough D300/700 to “need” to do anything. They could lose the entire market share in that area and still be very competitive. But they won’t. Don’t worry. Just be patient.
D4000 is not a likely name, we are currently on odd numbers, D4000 would be next generation cameras (D4, D800, D400, D4000).
An s or x version is more likely!
Também conto com isso… mas.. estamos a perder o comboio relativamente à Canon
D4000
omg this is getting better and better…..
NEX5 is starting to veer up on my horizon actually nice cam cant wait to see review seems very interesting…..
D4000 ??? – disappointing news
disappointing news : maybe not
A D4000 with the D5000/D90 12MP sensor at the right price could kick ass and take name within the market.
I, like so many, want to see the update of the D700…..
Mark
This would make a great backup camera (if it comes with D300/90/5000 sensor) – small, lightweight, cheap, good IQ. Or it could serve as good remote camera – you don’t need super-hyper cam for that, just one with good IQ and small size (so it doesn’t need complicated, heavy, expensive support).
Also imagine this + Voigt 20/3.5, 40/2, 58/1.4 – perfect travel set-up for me
I’d use a lens kit like that! It would probably even make my D300 ultra-portable.
Agree! I use all of them on my D40 but will change the 58/1.4 to a 90/3.5. Give me a D4000 right now! I need the extra step in ISO
I would love to see the D4000. Why? I would like to have a small and neat camera with the image quality of the D5000/D90 but without the swivel lcd screen of the D5000. Sure, there is the D90, but it’s more expensive and I don’t need the extra features like AF motor, larger viewfinder, etc.
So, a D4000 with the IQ of the D5000, mabye without video and swivel screen and cheaper than the D5000 of course, would be perfect for me!
However, I do unterstand that many people would love to see more upgrades on superior cameras.
Cheers,
Timo
+1…..a great camera for my son to learn with and not too expensive.
The D3S has 12,1 Mpx at 36mm x 23,9mm sensor size – that means 1,406 Mpx / sq cm.
For a DX sensor size, at the size of D5000 sensor, of 23,6mm x 15,8mm, for the same pixel density, the sensor should have 5,243 Mpx, if you want the same or better quality.
It’s true that D5000 has good high ISO capabilities, but at ISO 200 is worst than D40.
I’l buy the D4000 or the D7000 (the expected D90′s succesor), if it would be:
* 6-8-10 Mpx Sensor size, with excelent Lo and Hi ISO capabilities; with ISO 6400 (not Hi-1) and ISO 100 (not Lo-1) available.
* bigger viewfinder, eventually up to 100% coverage;
* without video;
* improved AF in terms of speed;
Considering the 14 Mpx of the S8000 P&S (at 0,28 sq cm sensor size), I really think they could easily launch an DSLR with about 100 Mpx, for the megapixels fanatics. In fact, consindering only the sizes, for mantaining the same quality they could go up to 186 Mpx.
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absolutely no chance. I am quite happy with 12 Mpx (but realize that it doesn’t sell well any longer) but if you drop it down to 6 Mpx I won’t be able to print high quality 18×24 images or maybe even 8×10.
i’m sure that less than 1 out of 1000 people interested in a small entry-level dslf would buy a smaller Mpx model.
And I hope you’re joking about the 100 Mpx, because most computers wouldn’t even be able to process it, let alone the camera. I can imagine the burst speed of. . . 1 frame per 3 seconds.
Beside me is an 8½×11 from my D700 shot as a test in DX mode at ISO200. Looks great.
Nikon,,, “The Master Of Super Consumer Products”.
Products that suits mr. and mrs. Jones.
The D4000 will be super wellcome for russian tourists, who seek corny shoot on a sunny beach,,,,, and thats a big market.
Is there a site called CANONRUMORS.com ?
Ohhh YES!!! great!,,,, cool pictures, video, prof. gear and more…
ciao ciao….Nikon!
Ciao Steve.
.. and are we going to see 2 new nikonians .. from pentax
RiceHigh’s Pentax Blog
Maybe.
Let’s wait for a serious review for the 645. Never thought i would be interested, but right now it looks really tempting. And they have some other mfs in the pipe. But the 645 took its time too. so i guess i have to wait, drink some tea, drink some more tea…
About ricehigh: what makes you think that?
It’s on that blog.. 2 diehard fans switched.. apparently diehard contributors in the pentax forums. Oh.. the 645 has been delayed.. news on photorumors.
Ok, they delayed the 645, but only for short. Not Duke-Nukem-2 alike.
no new/renewed lenses AGAIN!
I bet D4000 will come with a brand new 18-99mm plastic lens!
I have a feeling this will have 1080p recording as a test for the market.
Exactly my thought as well!
what’s to test? Isn’t it a given that everyone who does video is a fan of 1080?
D5000+D400-D4000=D1400
D1400/2=D700.
D700+X=D700x
(D5000+D400-D4000)=D1400
D1400/2=D700
D700+x=D700x
Sorry, no D800 !
According Admin, next year we will have a replace for d700, with the amount of MP that many people would like to have, with a very good quality in high ISO, etc but the price probably will be around 3000 bucks.
At these moments you will see a new kind of claim:
3000 US$ Oh! is to expensive, Canon are cheapper, etc , etc, etc
$3000 for a FX 24MP I’ll take it.
It’s much cheaper than the D3x, plus there will be improvements compared to the D3x.
Invisible: I hope you are right if will be true I am in the line two or three days before this camera arrive to the store, such as IPad, but probably 24 MP sensor has a price over 1.0k add to this 51 AF points, 100% view range, Iso over 6400 with good quality, sensor cleaner, magnesium body, etc . A probably replace for d700 with 24 MP should be around 4000 US$ or more, base in the price for sony alpha 900 US$ 2700 with much less characteristics. May be Nikon will have a camera between D700, D3S and D3X with less MP in the same segment price for d700.
Great point Jay
Grow up.
Although far from interested on the model. I am happy to see Nikon is starting to roll the ball again. Remember, the entry level is really their bread and butter in the DLSR game. Not everyone can/or is interested in buying a full-frame camera. Just like the Rebel is Canon’s DSLR bread and butter. And why? Because they are cheaper than a D7+ or a D700+.
In the end, It is certain to help them raise their bottom line.
As we just saw in their financial report, it could use a little raising.
Nikon: Yaaaaaawwwwwwwnnnnn.
Nikon: best IQ on Dsrls( worst on compacts and sleeeeeeeeeeping while mirrorless cameras are selling like hot cakes on Japan) and super CONSERVATIVE and boring company ever….serious, if this D4000 is true, what would have that makes a difference between its simblings? Only thing would be video since they will not have more than 12mp and probably not better DR than the D5000….(the best among APS-C cameras)
And one more thing for the people who brags about super IQ from Nikon and that Canon is this or that ( and i dont have a Canon, have a D50 and a D300)….by the time Nikon will be releasing their D700x or D800 or whatever….Canon will be at 5D mark III ( already known as Canon rumors stated)…..Nikon is way behind the game now…….and probably will be even more next year….
Nothing wrong with having the D4000 release. Obviously, it’s not targeted to 99% of the readers here, (most of whom appear to be worry mongers that Nikon is falling behind in every category…LOL).
The only thing to worry about Nikon is are the lens releases. Particularly in light of the recent AF issues with the 24 f1.4G, this is a more serious problem than worrying about MP deficit, video, etc. Trust me, this will all be resolved in the next gen models D4/D400 in 2011. Patience!
This is as underwhelming as Ricky Martin announcing he’s gay earlier this year. We know this already, Nikon releases a new entry level DSLR every year, this isn’t really a rumor or speculation, cripes.
Given Nikon’s current losses and their anticipation of doing better for the rest of their financial year my guess is that they will look at the bigger volume sales – the cheaper cameras – to boost sales.
I would therefore expect a mirror-less design – maybe the D4000 (D40,000 seems a bit much) mentioned and an upgrade for the D90 this year.
To me it makes sense to have:
1) Mirror-less body
2) Amateur body (D90)
3) Semi Pro (D300, D700)
4) Pro (D3S, D3X)
I’d be happy to have a small, mirror-less DX body and an FX SLR body. My choice of having the best of both worlds.
boring !
Why, lower end drives volume which drives sales. D3X and D3S are glass leading as is D700. Those that know their pixels could care less whether they have 12 or 18 or whatever. Those that have small balls need more pixels and can be excused for feeling to Canon.
The Mothers and Fathers who buy DSLR to shoot amateur Nikon must capture. For those the Ti1 and Ti2 and the other manufactures offerings kick Nikon at the entry level. D5000 nice but a bit steep for what you get. The D3000 cheap and garbage compared to the competition. What they need is a D4000 using 12 Meg, 4FPS, D5K focus, 3FPS, no flip screen priced, MUST HAVE 1080P, and at 499, drop D3000 to 399. Keep D5000 as low volume flip screen. ANy Marketing monkey can see this coming!
How can you have a camera between the D5000 and the D3000? It’s retarded. The D3000 sucks….the D5000 sucks a bit less. Now introducing the D4000…equally sucking between the D3000 and D5000…
Sucks for you but not for Japan customers, You can not ignore statistics Nikon is a camera best sellers in Japan, may be in US an other countries, may be canon sale more in spain bu I don´t know , please ask you way?
Japanese costumers are now very into the mirrorless systems….where is the mirrorless system from Nikon? who knows, maybe 2012….even sony managed to launch their system before Nikon….
According survey japanesse customers are interesting in Nikon DSLR products.
Thats not what i have said….obviously japanese are interested on Nikon products…LOL…please elaborate about what is written…if you agree or not…isnt that hard
How can you have a camera between the D5000 and the D3000? It’s retarded. The D3000 sucks….the D5000 sucks a bit less. Now introducing the D4000…equally sucking between the D3000 and D5000…where’s the info on the D700 replacement? That’s what I want to see!!!!!
In May of 09, I decided I would get a full frame DSLR to replace my D90, and decided to wait it out for the D700 replacement, because I love that camera but wanted better resolution for cropping and architecture shots. I gave myself a deadline of May 1st 2010 for a replacement to come out. If not, I was switching to the 5DMkII. Well, I even waited a couple of weeks after my deadline and still nothing (not that our friends at Nikon would care or even know about my deadline). So last night, I finally ordered a new 5DMkII and three EF lenses from Adorama. Au revoir, Nikon.
arghh man! not expecting d4000!!!! i want D90s/x or D95!
it is ridiculous that there is no effort to strenghen the FX line-up. D700 is the only handable FX camera, there should be a successor soon.
I bet you Its a 12 mpxl with video : they should have skip the D3000 they re stupid at Nikon If they were nt so greedy they would have make the economy of the D 3000 developement,they really need to change all they philosophy in the developement project other wise they really gonna Fall…
I think I ll wait the D4 !!!!!!!
i predict this is going to be a D3X in a smaller body that everyone was hoping for. APS-C format DSLR will soon die out.
in 2 years LOL!!!!!
What I would like to see from Nikon:
1) D700 replacement (To stand up against the 5Dii and make Nikon look good)
2) D90 replacement (Which I may buy)
I would wait another year for a D700 replacement.
I don’t do video. There is nothing wrong with my photos, they look amazing even at high ISO settings and I have made 30″x40″ prints on an Epson 9800 that look amazing from both a D300/700.
Those of you who do video and don’t need a more expansive AF system please go buy a 5DII and stop wasting our time. Different strokes for different folks, but seriously STOP FUCKING SAYING “NIKON NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING NOW”
99% of photographers like myself could pick up a D40 and take an amazing photograph. Equipment just makes our life a little easier and yes a D700 upgrade would be nice, but honestly do you NEED it? I know Nikon has a lot of other things to worry about right now like making sure they stay competitive in the entry level DSLR market.
Additionally, why do you idiots keep posting “IM SWITCHING!” ??? Do you think we care. Do you think Nikon cares? You D300/700 owners are a tiny part of the market… Nikon will provide, but your suicide notes will not make a difference. lol
Nikon needs a D700 replacement NOW or I am switching! Tee hehehe
I’m sure Nikon cares…
Nikon’s big mistake was making the D700 in the first place. It is so good, I don’t care if I never need to replace it. It is the first digital camera I could use for years without even thinking of replacing.
I expect that a large percentage of those moaning for an upgrade in this forum, do not own one and have not used one. I really can not think how Nikon could improve it in a way that I would trade.
More pixels? Not with only a 17″ printer, plus the fact that I mostly shoot for the InterWeb.
Better high-ISO? Able to shoot stopped down to the sweet-spot of all my lenses when shooting available darkness. In deep-dark tests, ISO25,600 is roughly equivalent to ISO400-800 with 35mm film.
Movies? Nope, that won’t move me to wave my plastic.
Faster frames per second? Rarely use 5 fps now. If I needed more, I could just add the MB-D10 for much less than a new camera.
Do I acknowledge that the D700 is the best all-around camera of the dozens I have owned in my life? Yup.
I also see nothing wrong with Nikon providing entry-level noobs with a wider range of choice.
From my experience selling cameras to the unwashed masses, what is hurting the D3000 the most is the lack of a live view function. The low-end entry level buyers are all coming from point & shoots and want to shoot through the LCD screen regardless of whether it makes sense or not. It makes the upgrade to a DSLR far less intimidating.
However, I can’t see how they could position a D4000. If they improve the sensor then it becomes likely better than the D5000. If they improve the video then it would likely be equal or better than the D5000. Would a D4000 with 12mp, live view, and a tilt screen fly when Canon will probably be updating the XS in the next year as well? I don’t think so.
What Nikon needs is a big leap forward with a D95 or whatever they want to call it and then quickly position two entry level cameras below it.
a D90s maybe?
What ever happened with the 35 prime and 85 replacements? We don’t need more cameras we need good lenses.
I am asking the same question, every day.
Quick question
Quick question,
I have a friend that is selling me his d700 for $1825, in pristine condition and only 3500 photos, is this a good deal, please respond asap.
a fair deal IMHO…
Yes thats a deal.
C’mon Nikon: D4000; where’s the beef?
I understand the market is wider for a mid range DSLR than for an entry-level pro camera but if you believe I’m going to buy a D700 now , your marketing guys need a serious upgrade.
Just everybody on the market is expecting a 700s, x, or 800, 900, 7000… just name it and we buy it but don’t expect us spend over $5,000 for a D3s that’s gonna be end of life mid 2011. It all depends if you really want to increase the company revenue in Q3 and Q4!
My two cents,
I think we also need to look at how the admin positioned this rumor….Its only 50/50 and like many others on here, unless Nikon’s plan are to discontinue to D3000 and the D5000, I don’t see how a D4000 makes any sense for Nikon without seriously limiting the marketability one or both of those camera’s. My ‘guess’ (and isn’t that all what we’re doing here?) would be the next announcement will be a D90 upgrade/replacement with a few more megapixels and 1080p video. But then again…..what do I know?
Ok, about time, so this is the 16MP FX Nikon I have been waiting for! Price right between the D3000 (about $460) and the D5000 (about $650).
So for $599.95 I will have my new Nikon and for those who want a movable swivel LCD, they can pony up the extra $50 for the D5000.
Make sense to me.
Mark
toss out an 18MP FF D700 update , keep it at 3k$ and I am in for one. I don’t care if it has video
No new camera this year from Nikon. Until 2011 they will stay at 12MP.
I wonder, there are several reports from nikon itself that they will surprise the market this year. And several people at the dpreview forum mention that Nikon will come out with a new camera this summer.
So just playing devil’s advocate: How do you explain why (according to NR) it is impossible for the channel to reorder the existing 700? Not to speak about the existing discounts on kits?
Who the f…. needs a D4000?
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Bring the D700 replacement or let it be. After two yeard i have enough now. Damned!
What the h… is Nikon thinking about?
Totally different markets with a vast gulf between prices.
Just give me full frame and 1080P please nikon, thats all Im asking for. Megapixels I dont care about as long as its above or at the current 12 to be honest.
60FPS and Raw video would be nice too
Let’s start a bet here about the next camera(s). Of course there will be people who say 12MP is more than enough but technology may allow that crow to tone down a 24MP sensor. So, let’s see what we can expect
1) D4 >> I think they will move away this time from the 4yr cycle. Now, I am not saying that this will be the first that will come out but I say this will happen in August. It will have 24MP. It will have mirror but no shutter mechanism.
2) D400 >> 18MP DX with a similar structure (no electronic shutter) In August
3) D4000 >> Mirrorless, No shutter, 14 MP with basic Video. First in the raw, it will be announced next month (June)
4) D8000 >> June. It will be a kickass replacement for the D90 and D5000. 14MP DX (or maybe 18MP but you’d have the option to set the output) Kickass video of course (actually all will have video with different rates)
5) D800 >> This will be an oddball because this should be the D700 replacement. So it may have a 24MP sensor but again you would have the option to set the output resolution. Similar design as the D400. Release would be October.
I think Nikon has put all the efforts to replace in 12 months its entire product line. That is because when you look at their financials it is clear that the imaging part of the business keeps the company floating.
So, what’s your view?
NR Admin, can we run a quick survey on this? Let’s run a quick vote about the cameras we’d expect.
my dream:
8 mp. 6 would be fine. no more than 10, please.
but make them count: low light/high iso & dynamic range champion
1080 video with autofocus and no rolling shutter weirdness
pentaprism viewfinder
live view with reasonably quick autofocus
built in gps/geotagging
as light as my d40
just for kicks: auto panorama stitching mode
$600
HA! not in a million years! well I can dream.
Something like D3000/D5000 will be very hard to sell.
The Sony Nex3 kit is at similar cost and appear to be easiler to use to many people. With similar kit lens and image quality
Nikon please make something good. Don’t just slowly giving up DC market and Entry DSLR market and become another niche expensive seller like Lecia.
Then we will suffer from limited choice and expensive lens.
Come on guys…
Just because you’re waiting for pro a D(X) or D700 replacement it doesn’t mean that there is no need of a new entry-level nikon.
Don’t forget, that the D3000 still uses the very old 10MP CCD instead of the CMOS. D80, D40, D40X, D60, D3000. That’s enough, Nikon! It’s time for an entry-level body with a better sensor.
Believe it or not, there are people out here, that prefer a small and leightweight DSLR body over tons of features and buttons! I’ve got nearly everything from the Nikon product-line. Pro-bodys and pro-lenses too! I’ve sold them all, staying with a small Nikon and just the 35DX.
The competitors aren’t sleeping.
Just accept that there is more than the “PRO”s out there.
I am waiting D4000 as Full frame entry level DSLR, with no motor on the body … sorry just guessing ……
For how much?
that would be awesome. Even 6Mpixel.
That’s the easiest gues to make, D3000 body with 12MP sensor and video, D3000 dropped.
My interest is in the D400 (new sensor, D300s body-like, fulHD video).
But: where’s the high MP D700? Will it come or just the D700s (D3s sensor update)?
Me too, waiting for the D400 to upgrade my D60
Please do not post this news again