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	<title>Comments on: USPTO approved Nikon&#8217;s patent for a 35mm f/1.4 lens</title>
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		<title>By: Antman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 20:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me shooting primes for landscapes and static subjects is so much more fun. Not being able to zoom in and out makes you think more about each shot.  You have to move your legs.  It&#039;s more challenging and more stimulating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me shooting primes for landscapes and static subjects is so much more fun. Not being able to zoom in and out makes you think more about each shot.  You have to move your legs.  It&#8217;s more challenging and more stimulating.</p>
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		<title>By: Dogbreath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dogbreath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 12:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because the cost of money says that dropping $1800 ($2000 FX - $200 DX) today in anticipation of potential future use of it is stupid.

Better to buy the DX @ $200 and sell it if and when he upgrades.  You have limited your exposure to risk very cheaply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because the cost of money says that dropping $1800 ($2000 FX &#8211; $200 DX) today in anticipation of potential future use of it is stupid.</p>
<p>Better to buy the DX @ $200 and sell it if and when he upgrades.  You have limited your exposure to risk very cheaply.</p>
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		<title>By: PhotonFisher</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2010/04/12/uspto-approved-nikons-patent-for-a-35mm-f1-4-lens.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-62166</link>
		<dc:creator>PhotonFisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 18:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 35 2.0mm is on the market for some time - it&#039;s small, good quality ... a 1.4 is welcome, but if you consider the line-up 24/35/50/85, then the 85 is more relevant, since the 130mm will be rather heavy ... The 35 1.4 is a &quot;me to&quot; - something wider would be interesting ... 1.2?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 35 2.0mm is on the market for some time &#8211; it&#8217;s small, good quality &#8230; a 1.4 is welcome, but if you consider the line-up 24/35/50/85, then the 85 is more relevant, since the 130mm will be rather heavy &#8230; The 35 1.4 is a &#8220;me to&#8221; &#8211; something wider would be interesting &#8230; 1.2?</p>
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		<title>By: peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 22:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$2000 for a normal prime is the absolute lowest price they can give us? Yikes!

I&#039;m no lens designer, but it seems like optically things get exponentially harder to make as you go away from 50mm. So if the 50 is $500 and the 24 is $2000+ then the 35 should be $1000. I&#039;m sure it&#039;ll be more though, what a ripoff...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$2000 for a normal prime is the absolute lowest price they can give us? Yikes!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m no lens designer, but it seems like optically things get exponentially harder to make as you go away from 50mm. So if the 50 is $500 and the 24 is $2000+ then the 35 should be $1000. I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;ll be more though, what a ripoff&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Djonah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Djonah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 07:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this beast is going to be another 10mm longer, I&#039;ll pass...c&#039;mon let&#039;s just think about it, if this is true, the beast  wil be bigger than the 18-200...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this beast is going to be another 10mm longer, I&#8217;ll pass&#8230;c&#8217;mon let&#8217;s just think about it, if this is true, the beast  wil be bigger than the 18-200&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Cadence SF</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cadence SF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 02:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right, more people will buy 35f1.4 at $1200, than $2000. 
And many photographer would rather have a bright prime in between the wide and tele zooms. Because that bight 50mm or whatever sometimes is the only thing that works for shooting in dark places. 

Though I probably won&#039;t buy it if it another G model lens, I find them more annoying than anything else. That aperture ring, and hands on stuff are what makes operating a camera fast. Instead the newer stuff from Nikon seems to just get in the way. Having gotten used to using F4 with dials and levers for every controls it&#039;s not fun to have to share tiny scroll wheels for several functions crammed into one. It what Minolta was doing in the 90s, they were slow as hell... despite looking great on paper (in theory)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, more people will buy 35f1.4 at $1200, than $2000.<br />
And many photographer would rather have a bright prime in between the wide and tele zooms. Because that bight 50mm or whatever sometimes is the only thing that works for shooting in dark places. </p>
<p>Though I probably won&#8217;t buy it if it another G model lens, I find them more annoying than anything else. That aperture ring, and hands on stuff are what makes operating a camera fast. Instead the newer stuff from Nikon seems to just get in the way. Having gotten used to using F4 with dials and levers for every controls it&#8217;s not fun to have to share tiny scroll wheels for several functions crammed into one. It what Minolta was doing in the 90s, they were slow as hell&#8230; despite looking great on paper (in theory)</p>
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		<title>By: ArtTwisted</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2010/04/12/uspto-approved-nikons-patent-for-a-35mm-f1-4-lens.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-61817</link>
		<dc:creator>ArtTwisted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 22:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IF he knows hes going to upgrade in the next few years then why not buy the better build and better performing equipment now that wil probably be around till he retires anyways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IF he knows hes going to upgrade in the next few years then why not buy the better build and better performing equipment now that wil probably be around till he retires anyways.</p>
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		<title>By: Victor Hassleblood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victor Hassleblood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 20:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. there is no 12-24 ! 
2. what is your point ? ? 
3. Please grow up ! ! !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. there is no 12-24 !<br />
2. what is your point ? ?<br />
3. Please grow up ! ! !</p>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 20:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dude, the 35mm 1.8DX costs $200.

If this lens is produced it&#039;ll cost $2400.  Just buy the DX lens and worry about FX when you upgrade in the distant future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dude, the 35mm 1.8DX costs $200.</p>
<p>If this lens is produced it&#8217;ll cost $2400.  Just buy the DX lens and worry about FX when you upgrade in the distant future.</p>
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		<title>By: [NR] admin</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2010/04/12/uspto-approved-nikons-patent-for-a-35mm-f1-4-lens.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-61780</link>
		<dc:creator>[NR] admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 20:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I aways track patent application and not patent approvals  - the patent applications give us an idea what is going on now with Nikon since patent approval can take few years, so I am not sure what to expect. The last thing I heard about the 25 1.4 lens was that it will be delayed this next year, but even if true this of course can change at any time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I aways track patent application and not patent approvals  &#8211; the patent applications give us an idea what is going on now with Nikon since patent approval can take few years, so I am not sure what to expect. The last thing I heard about the 25 1.4 lens was that it will be delayed this next year, but even if true this of course can change at any time.</p>
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		<title>By: joebee</title>
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		<dc:creator>joebee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 18:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and my AF-S 400mm f4 VR DX or AF-S 500mm f4 VR DX</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and my AF-S 400mm f4 VR DX or AF-S 500mm f4 VR DX</p>
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		<title>By: PHB</title>
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		<dc:creator>PHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 18:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think it is very likely to be a priority. Nikon has far more lens designs than it ever intends to put into production. I can see a 35 f/1.4 being announced eventually, but I can&#039;t imagine that management would give a green light for advanced production design and testing until they know how well the 24 f/1.4 is selling.

If the 24 f/1.4 is selling ten thousand units a year or better I would see a 35mm f/1.4 to be almost certain to appear in 2012. It takes at least that long for Nikon to get a lens of this type out the door. The field testing takes a year all by itself. If on the other hand sales are less than a thousand a year I should think it highly unlikely Nikon is going to prioritize launching a lens that would gross less than $2 million a year in revenues.

What would interest me more is knowing what Nikon has optimized the lens for. Nikon does not make all its lenses the same, particularly when the pro lenses are concerned. The 85 f/1.4 is designed to provide great bokeh. The 50mm is not, it is designed for a different purpose and the assumption seems to be that if you want ultimate bokeh you choose the 85 and stick your feet somewhere else. But the 35mm is quite a different length from the 85, it might make sense for it to be designed for bokeh. Or Nikon might have had a different use in mind. The one thing that is sure is that it is not likely to be optimized for the same uses as the 50.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it is very likely to be a priority. Nikon has far more lens designs than it ever intends to put into production. I can see a 35 f/1.4 being announced eventually, but I can&#8217;t imagine that management would give a green light for advanced production design and testing until they know how well the 24 f/1.4 is selling.</p>
<p>If the 24 f/1.4 is selling ten thousand units a year or better I would see a 35mm f/1.4 to be almost certain to appear in 2012. It takes at least that long for Nikon to get a lens of this type out the door. The field testing takes a year all by itself. If on the other hand sales are less than a thousand a year I should think it highly unlikely Nikon is going to prioritize launching a lens that would gross less than $2 million a year in revenues.</p>
<p>What would interest me more is knowing what Nikon has optimized the lens for. Nikon does not make all its lenses the same, particularly when the pro lenses are concerned. The 85 f/1.4 is designed to provide great bokeh. The 50mm is not, it is designed for a different purpose and the assumption seems to be that if you want ultimate bokeh you choose the 85 and stick your feet somewhere else. But the 35mm is quite a different length from the 85, it might make sense for it to be designed for bokeh. Or Nikon might have had a different use in mind. The one thing that is sure is that it is not likely to be optimized for the same uses as the 50.</p>
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		<title>By: Astrophotographer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Astrophotographer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 18:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The patent specifies FX. As for size, the patent show it as about 10mm longer that the 24 1.4.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The patent specifies FX. As for size, the patent show it as about 10mm longer that the 24 1.4.</p>
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		<title>By: PHB</title>
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		<dc:creator>PHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 18:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the statement was that it would be $1.2K, $2K sounds rather too much of a price bump.

At $1.2K the lens will no doubt find a market amongst folk like me who don&#039;t see a lot of point to a mid-range zoom over a clutch of great primes. If it is $2K it will be much less interesting.

At the moment the beat II sells for $1800. Lets say you have the 12-24 and 70-200 in your bag. You could buy the 24-70, or you could buy a 35mm and a 50mm f/1.4 for the same money and have essentially the same capability but a lot faster. Instead of an 84-35 degree zoom you have a choice of 84, 62, 46, 35 degrees.

Zooms are great, but mostly useful at the wide and long end in my view. In the middle I would prefer to have a fast lens and crop if necessary in photoshop. 

This is essentially what I do already with my DX lens set. I have the 10-24DX, 35DX and 50AFS lenses. And I am looking to buy a 85 f/1.4 and whatever the replacement for the 80-400 turns out to be. If I ever go to FX format it will be for the 12-24 f/2.8, but a 70-200 would probably come first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the statement was that it would be $1.2K, $2K sounds rather too much of a price bump.</p>
<p>At $1.2K the lens will no doubt find a market amongst folk like me who don&#8217;t see a lot of point to a mid-range zoom over a clutch of great primes. If it is $2K it will be much less interesting.</p>
<p>At the moment the beat II sells for $1800. Lets say you have the 12-24 and 70-200 in your bag. You could buy the 24-70, or you could buy a 35mm and a 50mm f/1.4 for the same money and have essentially the same capability but a lot faster. Instead of an 84-35 degree zoom you have a choice of 84, 62, 46, 35 degrees.</p>
<p>Zooms are great, but mostly useful at the wide and long end in my view. In the middle I would prefer to have a fast lens and crop if necessary in photoshop. </p>
<p>This is essentially what I do already with my DX lens set. I have the 10-24DX, 35DX and 50AFS lenses. And I am looking to buy a 85 f/1.4 and whatever the replacement for the 80-400 turns out to be. If I ever go to FX format it will be for the 12-24 f/2.8, but a 70-200 would probably come first.</p>
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		<title>By: Astrophotographer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Astrophotographer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 18:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More useful is the application dates. the 24 f1.4 was submitted 7/11/08 and published 1/15/09. The 35 f1.4 was 8/5/08 and 4/2/09. So say 1-3 months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More useful is the application dates. the 24 f1.4 was submitted 7/11/08 and published 1/15/09. The 35 f1.4 was 8/5/08 and 4/2/09. So say 1-3 months.</p>
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		<title>By: longtimenikonshooter</title>
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		<dc:creator>longtimenikonshooter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 17:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It will be available when Nikon releases D4 in 2012.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It will be available when Nikon releases D4 in 2012.</p>
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		<title>By: Astrophotographer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Astrophotographer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 17:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think the size will be that bad. Front element to image plane is shown at 131mm. So front element to flange will be 85mm, about 3.5 inches.

I expect price to be $1700-1800.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think the size will be that bad. Front element to image plane is shown at 131mm. So front element to flange will be 85mm, about 3.5 inches.</p>
<p>I expect price to be $1700-1800.</p>
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		<title>By: gingerjimmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>gingerjimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 17:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>want one badly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>want one badly.</p>
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		<title>By: rwcs</title>
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		<dc:creator>rwcs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 17:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really want this focal length, I&#039;m prime lens userm the only zoom here is the amazing 14-24.

35mm f1.4G
50mm f1.4G
85mm f1.4G</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really want this focal length, I&#8217;m prime lens userm the only zoom here is the amazing 14-24.</p>
<p>35mm f1.4G<br />
50mm f1.4G<br />
85mm f1.4G</p>
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		<title>By: Banned</title>
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		<dc:creator>Banned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 16:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol yeah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol yeah.</p>
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