Take a look at this picture on flickr (full size). It looks like a DX f/2.8 lens and it is different than the existing 17-55 f/2.8 DX lens. Any guesses? See full discussion on flickr. The picture was taken at a big outdoor event in San Francisco.
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New 2.8 lens? Hope so
DX? Shit! we want 700 in between DX (D700X)
more DX?
I think the D700X is ínside the box
Look how beat up it already is….hopefully it is a 17-55 vr lens. The VR is really great for the video mode on d300s
it is different then the current 17-55 2.8 – look at the curve above the ring – the pictured lens doesn’t have it. Maybe they are testing D400?
Hey Administrator,
This reminds me of the guy who was shown earlier shooting Nikons with a homemade 3D setup?
I see a two lens setup’
This is what I was talking about – the step-up after the ring on the current 17-55 2.8 I think is higher than the one on the picture, maybe is the angle from which the photo was taken that makes it look different:
Same lens, its the angle of the photo and the deep shadow that makes it look different. I have been beating mine around for a long time, same lens.
Yes, it’s just the angle. This is the current 17-55, nothing more.
Yeah, it’s just the current lens – http://www.flickr.com/groups/nikondigital/discuss/72157623615246828/#comment72157623620410818
I agree with you. It is the current model – I have one.
Hey Administrator,
Here is the guy that you posted a while back about with a 3D Nikon setup – reminds me of this person.
This is what I was referring to.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/beinder/4392274063/
Admin – What you might be missing is that when you rotate the existing 17-55 out to 17mm, an inner barrel extends out and looks very similar to the rumored new lens photo. Your stock photo is the lens at 35mm where the inner barrel isn’t exposed.
Now this might be a new lens (a 17-55 with VR?), but seriously, Nikon better not be focusing its attention here when a newer FX camera and 24-something FX walk-around zoom are much more important.
There are two lenses poking out. It is pretty obviously a 3D configuration.
I can see no reason at all why Nikon would test a 3D config with a prototype of a soon-to-launch camera. It is not something the camera will be judged on.
I can see them using experimental gear that has nothing to do with any launched camera. I can see them using a couple of D300s bodies.
By far the most likely explanation is that the guy has nothing to do with Nikon at all, the lenses are simply mis-identified or have confusing modifications.
Ceiling Cat disagrees.
Any 3D setup would require 2 identical lenses.
“Identical”? Hardly.
Two lenses @ the same focal lenght? Yes.
No reason you can’t use a prime and a zoom at matched focal lengths.
Depends on the the 3d you’re doing. If you’re looking for photo-grametry or geometry reconstruction you just need to be able to triangulate co-ordinates.
If you’re doing near-field photogrametry (unless we’re talking VERY near-field) the distance between the two pictured lenses is not enough to resolve poop.
Photogrametry is, in essence, nothing more than an angular resection, and by placing the two cameras so close together you are terribly weakening your solution (think how acute the angle would be @ subject).
If you want I’ll do the math assuming a 12mp DX sensor and a 35mm lens. But I won’t waste my breath if nobody is interested.
It’s looking strange. I cam in the box but a brand new gold-ring-nikkor saying hello to the world?
Was it hard to ask the guy what’s inside the box?
That box looks like a camera blimp, meant to deaden the sound of the slr shutter on film sets.
I don’t think it looks so much different to the current 17-55 when set on 17mm.
That is not a new lens. It looks exactly like mine..
I know it inside and out. carries it with me every day.
It must be a D700 or so with a mounted DX lens with (UV?) filter.
Don’t get your hopes up.
It’s a 17-55
Nothing else than a normal 17-55mm @17mm with filter…
http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/images1/1755.jpg
ditto, it’s just a 17-55… :-s
This looks exactly like my 17-55 DX f/2.8 DX with a filter on it and zoomed to about 21mm.
No one thinks its weird that the camera box is huge, and has a thumbscrew that looks like it’d be in just the right place to to hold a second camera upside down? Keeping the lenses close together for 3d, althougt it seems weird to use different lenses but the box is super ghettor looking so it might just be something to match the focal length, and the guy doesn’t have the money for 2 2.8 zooms.
RUMOR IS BUSTED.
THE LENS IS A 17-55.
YOU CAN NOW GO ABOUT YOUR DAILY BUSINESS
Jesus f***ing christ, you’re the webmaster of a website called “Nikon Rumors” and you can’t even recognize a common 17-55? Just shoot yourself man…
Ooh, you’re so hard. Please teach me how to be such a douche on the internet.
i’m with jdoe.
Nice nerd-rage Raekwon
yes, he runs a site on RUMOURS, not facts. Also the lens is half covered, and beat up, and the angle is differnet then what most people looking at product shots would be used to seeing, calm down its a simple mistake. Plus the whole two lenses in a box set up makes the whole thing mysterious as it is.
Wow – what a great life you must lead if this is what upsets you.
It’s a normal Nikkor 17-55mm set to 17mm !
http://www.photozone.de/images/8Reviews/lenses/nikkor_1755_28/lens.jpg (picture by: photozone.de)
Yeah, this is a crap rumor. Y’all need to lay down the crack pipe. Definitely a 17-55. Used to own one and I could tell from one look. Blah.
It’s not a current 17-55, which has 10 ft and 3 m lined up in the focus markings. This one goes [infinity](white), 10ft (yellow), 2m (white), [?](yellow)
It might be a 17-55, but it’s a new one if it is.
New Lens
17-55
good spot, on most pictures you see the 3 below the 10. But not on this picture:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Nikkor_17-55_f2844464.jpg
Apparently there are two versions. According to
http://www.photosynthesis.co.nz/nikon/serialno.html#DX
the serial numbers changed in 2006.
Thanks, PTG. I had no idea about the change. That was the only thing that I could see different about it, so it’s probably not a new lens, then.
good point Jon
http://www.flickr.com/photos/vallejo707/4390529187/sizes/m/
from the original post
Yeah, my 17-55 has the exact focus markings as in the “rumored” picture.
Current 17-55
Look nothing like this
Perhaps its the thing hidden in the box we should be thinking about.
My guess is a replace ment for the D90 (Nikon Aus have a $200 rebate on the D90, that large a rebate usually means there is a replacement model coming)
Yes, the same lens 17-55.
1. There’s a diopter switch at the prism structure.
2. –> It’s either a D2, D3 or a D700.
3. There’s obviously a built-in flash –> it’s a D700.
But, wait!
It doesn’t look exaktly like the D700!
There’s “more plastic around the diopter switch”, than on the D700.
http://gallery.techarena.in/data/601/Nikon-D700-Camera-Wallpaper.jpg
yes you’re right… it must be a new cam! (d800/900/700x/s)
the dx lens is only to confusing or for a diversion.
Where are you getting that it “obviously” has a built-in flash?
The curved ridge above the diopter knob says it’s a D2. Not a D1, not a D3, not a D700.
NOTHING about this image is inconsistent with the camera being a Nikon D2 with a 17-55mm f/2.8. NOTHING.
Part of rumor-management is being honest with yourself about what you know, and all we know is THIS: there was a shy photographer walking around with what appears for all the world to be a D2 with a 17-55mm in a home-made, blimped stereo enclosure.
This entire conversation is taking place because the guy had a camera in a funny box.
I’m with you, But I think it could be a D1 too.
I do not think that it is a new lens, but I hope that it is. If it is a new f/2.8 DX lens with the gold ring it would indicate a commitment on Nikons part to continue with high end DX bodies in the future such as the D300(s) to go along with this new lens.
I agree that the person taking this image should have just asked the guy what was in his box? He probably would have been happy to answer.
My guess is that the guy is using two cameras for a kind of stereoscopic effect. I really don’t think a tester for Nikon is going to go around using a box like that, with another lens, most likely attached to another camera, sticking out.
As a followup if you read the comments on flikr, there are commenters claiming that they did ask the guy about the setup, and he did answer that it was for shooting 3D.
What really impresses me is that when these shots are posted, the amount of information and analysis that comes out is incredible. Even when the rumor turns out to be nothing, the effort and knowledge of the online community is impressive.
Oh, please, Nikon, hear my plea! Give us a small, 13mm or 14mm DX lens for $500 by summer! (My 12-24mm is too big to fit in my travel bag and my 16-85mm is not wide enough for the temples of Angkor Wat.)
If you can afford to travel to the temples of Angkor Wat, then you can afford $900 for the 10-24mm DX that is available today.
…or save some bucks and buy the superior 11-16/2.8 Tokina. The Nikon doesn’t even compare well to the older 10-20 Sigma. All the samples I’ve seen of the Nikon 10-24 had horrid CA at 10mm. That’s a design issue.
if the lens is in question than why hide the camera? gay looking set up really.
Since when does camera gear have a sexual orientation? Really I only wish my gear could mate and create newer better gear through breeding. Like, couldn’t my d90 and d700 maybe give birth to a more pixel dense FX cam?
That was what i did if I would like to hide something, use a DX lens in FX camera.
The most important thing here is what is in the box
Forget the lens, its the 17-55, nothing there.
However, Nikon is coming out with a new 15MP camera, my guess is full frame. I think it’s already being tested. Don’t know anything else about it.
Only reason to hide the box would be to make the camera quieter.. otherwise he’s hiding something… only thing I don’t understand is why he used a box rather than masking the brand and model of the camera.. I mean being around with this huge box makes people wonder what kind of stuff you have there.
ROFL. This is one of the best wild guess rumor pages I’ve seen in a long time.
It must be a twin frame D474xs with the new stonewash designer lens giving it that pre-owned look and feel. The housing is an optional extra for the overtly fashion tragic.
The user in the flickr discussion group loaded the full size image up. The smaller of the two top holes allows a view to the side of the prism. On the full size image you can see clearly the diopter adjustment. All pro-bodys (D2-series, D3-series and D700) have next to the diopter adjustment the switch for the exposure measurement. This switch is missing. Secondly the diopter adjustment is located on one piece of the body, but the front part of the camera shoulder seems to be another part. All pro-bodys I knew have anshoulder made out of one piece (in the full size image you can clearly see two different colors on the prism, which are no shaddows of the enclosing strange box). If the guy is hiding something new, than I believe it is a new body than a new lens. But as a user on flickr said, the box screams “look at me”, so it could be nothing.
cp
PLZ no more DX!
Please, more DX lenses. I have no need nor the cash for FX lenses on my DX body. There are plenty of FX lenses out there that suit the needs of FX shooters.
agree 100% no more DX lenses ! Nikon should focus only updating some current FX lenses that urgently need an update to AFS motors like the 85mm f1.4 the 20mm f2.8 etc
Why put them so close?You cannot pretend to be taking a stereo image with two different bodies and two different lenses. To me it looks like the guy is testing a new body against a current one.
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The pair could be:
D3/D3s(current) – D400/700x/900(new)
or:
D4(new) – D700(current)
..wild guess anyway
Wow. That sounds probable to me… but that box looks rather old and Nikon would provide a shiny [or mebbe not] box for prototype testers to use.
And who would scratch a prototype lens…
It’s a D2, the diopter adjuster and the boxy shape around it is a dead give away:
http://topicstock.pantip.com/camera/topicstock/2006/01/O4018141/O4018141-7.jpg
it’s a 17-55. the picture shows it at a weird light and angle which is why it looks a bit different than the perfectly setup studio shot nikon has.
the camera is more interesting and besides, if they were really trying to conceal the lens you’d think they would have put some tape over the label.
the dooming thing about this rumor is that they were not trying to conceal the lens…since it is a well known lens already sold: 17-55
And the other lens is a 50mm f/1.4 AF-D.
The lens sists to low in the box to be a pro body. Not to mention how on earth is he going to be able to press the shutter on it?
Focus ring looked like the 85mm to me rather than the 50. Altho’ I’m basing my assumption on the 50mm f1.8, not the 1.4 (as I don’t have one and don’t recall what it looks like exactly).
It has the same focus ring as my 85mm f1.8, but isn’t exactly the same, so I thought it might be the 85 1.4.
It is clearly a D2 series body (see how the diopter adjustment assembly sticks out from the prism part and how flat the top part is) The metering selector is set further forward and hidden by the box.
The lens looks exactly like my 17-55/2,8G.
If you want I can sent you a pic later today of a D2x with 17-55G at the same angle, set to 17mm with filter and no hood, no problem, let me know so you can bust this one.
The other lens -if I had to make an educated guess- could very well be the old AF 35-70/2.8, the focussing ring is definitely ‘old style’ as far as I can see.
The 35-70mm f/2.8 has four rows on the rubber focus, lens on picture only has two.
It’s also way to long to fit that far into the box.
It’s a 50mm f/1.4 AF-D. It’s not mounted to a pro body, but a smaller body without a grip. That body also has to have built in focus motor. So we’re speaking D200, D300, D90, D700….
Guys – story is over, get a life get back to work ! …
… until the next rumour
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Nah.. That looks exactly like my 17-55mm f/2.8.
I’ve never seen a pinhole camera with a lens before!
In my opinion the big lens is a 28-70 AFS. Somehow I suspect that this is a photoshop job with the DX symbol being pasted in, the wear marks on the outer barrel where the hood bayonets on suggests this lens is a few years old. The wide smooth metal inner barrel is a dead giveaway that this is just the old 28-70 AFS lens . The box housing the cameras is routinely used on movie sets to make sure the still photographer doesn’t mess up the soundtrack by muffling the shutter and mirror slaps. So this shot was probably taken on location where some film crew was working and the box was never intended to actually hide the camera.
OK its probably just the 17-55 2.8 DX, please forgive me the barrel looks just like my 28-70 2,8
Thats a plan old beat up looking 17-55 DX and nothing new. I’m just wondering what that guy is trying to do with that box with the two lens poking out?????
The box is used to muffle the sound of mirror slap and shutter, they are used by still photographers on movie sets…….
That is the old 17-55 2,8 – becouse thers to much signs of usage for a brand new lens.
Realy a quiet-box?
Yes, its actually called a sound blimp, here is a link for a commercial model, the one in the picture looks homemade http://www.soundblimp.com/nikon.htm