Comments on: The last post on the “I am Nikon” campaign

By: AnonymousCoward

AnonymousCoward — Wed, 17 Mar 2010 19:53:42 +0000

I am happy to buy zzddrr’s kit.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:47:04 +0000

amen…

By: Jabs

Jabs — Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:06:45 +0000

Greetings KPUO,
Thank you for your reply.
Religion is a proper worship of God alone and comes from God via His Prophets and Messengers, so not about herd mentality.
The problem stems from immaturity, tribalism, ‘ethnocentricity’ and racism plus cowardice. Many look to the Internet for the equivalent of storage information for their own brains and when they are unable to process this information internally, they latch on to some equivalent guru and/or their opinion. An opinion may or may not be fact, so sometimes people use this as some rallying call for pushing their own desires or beliefs as now ‘facts’. It is like living in your own head and then expanding your reach to include whatever you read on the Internet. Lazy and co-dependent people are like that as they develop herd mentality to offset their own incapacities and thus it often is a cover for crass stupidity or an inability to think on their own. You quote nonsense because perhaps the person seems credible to you but being unable to decipher the details yourself, you now quote another person in idolatry of them and their stances.
Religion is truth from God while herd mentality is a human weakness as wisdom is replaced with going with the flow because of the on-line reputation of someone and now they wish to associate with that person in order to attain strength or even bragging rights.
Herd mentality is the opposite of natural human independent thought in certain things , as our natures being similar, will have our innate ways pointing us to our varied similarities but since each one of us is created by God as a unique individual, then what we follow in life often points to us as worshipping that person or their opinions.
Big difference!

By: Jabs

Jabs — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 01:04:58 +0000

Greetings All,
One of the problems of On-Line forums is the establishment of this herd mentality that you must go along with the ‘dominant themes’ or assessments of this place, posters or people attack you for your deviations from their ideas, ideals or goals.
It is as though people expect everyone to either share their view or be cowered into a corner like some idiot, all because one perhaps stands in the way of majority rule or one puts an entirely different spin on a particular thought or even complaint.
People often fail to realize that these are public places and not you own personal sounding board for whatever ails you or what you see as missing from a manufacturer’s lineup.
You fail to realize that differences are what make the world viable and that herd mentality actually stifles growth and innovation. In our zeal to push our own points, we often get so carried away that we swarm on the ones pointing out a fallacy in your argument and then expect this person to run away so you can have your forum all onto yourself or those who support your stances!
That is sad and so childish a game played by many here that it ruins the forum, increases the tension here as perhaps baby-minded posters cannot deal with a little disappointment in life. They expect Nikon or any other manufacturer to give them their isolated wishes and then pull ‘hissy fits’ or tantrums here while they spoil a place of discussion with their often repeated mantras as to what they wish.
The Administrator here has been gracious to spend a lot of time finding data for us to read and think about, yet he is cursed now for including facts or even rumors. What sense does this make?
I think that perhaps some of our worlds are too small or maybe we perceive ourselves as THE WORLD and need to go find something to do in life instead of pontificating on a web site.
Having a discussion is one thing, but trying to artificially dominate it is another and shows perhaps why humans have such trouble getting along with each other today.
I come here to relax and not to confront people who seem bent on telling us the shortfalls of everything while seemingly unaware that nothing in life is perfect.

Just my perspective and since one human being, I don’t really count as much.

By: Gustav

Gustav — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:24:39 +0000

Uhm… no they didn’t. The D300 went away very quickly after the D300s was introduced.

By: Chris

Chris — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:25:17 +0000

ROFL – I was sayd, its just for a Coolpix – not for a DSLR….

By: kpuo

kpuo — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:23:31 +0000

Image quality is so yesterday – I want laser beams to incinerate annoying clients.

By: zzddrr

zzddrr — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 05:26:46 +0000

You may want to read the entire thread and you may very offensive posts. Perhaps, those can explain when one responds using similar tone

BTW, why did you leave this on so long? Didn’t you notice that people are pissed? Many of us pointed out that this will lead to disaster. And it did. Just read through it.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:27:27 +0000

In business, photographers are forced to hold their position. One vital item is what they are shooting with. I see why you are so anxious about the idea of D700x, even anything coming close to it. Then all the “cheap” photog crowd will get one

The later it arrives, the longer time you warrant before feeling obliged to shell out for MF digital. eg. the new 40mp Pentax for only 9K. Didn’t the same happen with D300? First D90 arrived. Now any “idiot” can purchase a D5000 which gives same results…

Just relax, a good photograph is rarely measured by the camera shot with. Does anybody care which brush, paint or canvas Monet or Van Gogh used?

By: Kevin

Kevin — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:56:43 +0000

You can only buy a D3s now and not a D3, does that answer your question.

By: Kevin

Kevin — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:54:59 +0000

No the D700s still does not make sense, think about this financially ok seriously and think of what Nikon has Done in the past. That is taking the D3 sensor and putting into a smaller body. It also doesn’t make any sense since well it would kill 95% of D3x sales. The D3x is still selling you know, it’s hard for some to believe but to many people $8,000 for a top end camera isn’t that bad.

For some reason the D700 D3 and D3x were all able to do very well in the same market.

Would the same hold true with a D700x, D3s and D3x. I would say no since 1/3rd of that market would vanish.

You just don’t think logically at all. There is no reason for Nikon to screw themselves such as Canon has done. Canon will have major issues trying to sell their high end bodies. The 1D sales are going to be crap for the forseeable future. The 1D Mark IV is having issues with the 7D taking sales and the 1Ds Mark IV will have issues with people not wanting to pay the extra $6,000 plus over the 5D Mark II.

if they introduce a 24mp compact body they will screw the company for years to come just because there are many cheap photographers out there that think they need an ultra high resolution camera when they don’t. I seriously doubt the D3x will be anything more than 32mp. You make it sound like Nikon and Canon have it easy trying to cram pixels on a sensor that is significantly smaller than the medium format cameras.

Needless to say there is no D800 this year. Maybe a release at the end of the year but nobody will physically have that camera until at least 2011. Ironically enough the same kind of time period that a 5D replacement could be around. Hmmmm doesn’t that seem to make more sense.

By: Geoff_K

Geoff_K — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:29:01 +0000

If they are only coming out with a D700s with video, why stop selling the D700 ? They had both the D300 and D300s ?

If you cannot order it now at AAFES and BestBuy is stopping sales in August (per the post here), surely they have something to replace that class of camera.

By: Geoff_K

Geoff_K — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:20:56 +0000

I would be happy at 18mp in a D700 body. I want the choice to add a batter pack. I do not keep mine on my D90.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:37:13 +0000

Here is another one you should please delete:
“Anonymous Posted March 8, 2010 at 7:34 pm”

And I think it is just about time to close the “Post A Comment” and reply options on this one.
It really has turned into a freak show and nobody is adding any new aspects for a quite a while by now.

By: [NR] admin

[NR] admin — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:46:24 +0000

zzddrr, last warning – I am tired of deleting your comments, please no personal attacks. Last warning also to few other readers – you know who you are. Changing you name will not help, I still know that the message was sent from the same person, it’s 2010. Last warning, really.

By: Jabs

Jabs — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:44:19 +0000

An unusual thread here?
This place has come alive or fell apart, according to your perspective – LOL!
We perhaps now need a POLL that tries to find out why people want a higher megapixel camera?

1. Is it because Canon introduced the 5dMk2, or is it Sony’s A900 and A850 or perhaps Nikon’s D3X drove many into some sort of a frenzy with its’ outrageous IQ and resolution, or are you merely jealous or envious of Canon’s moves into higher resolution lately?
2. Do you need this resolution for your work or as a bragging tool?
3. Will you be able to afford GREAT IQ in a great body with VIDEO above 20 megapixels or even above 32 megapixels – as NONE exist yet?

And don’t fuss at me, as I personally don’t care – it’s YOUR MONEY and not mine!

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:59:47 +0000

You don’t get do you. Here is more than one Anonymous. And even of different opinion. We don’t call ourselves we get named automatically.
Go on and burn your fingertips. Deal with us and all the rest.
You obviously have time to waste.

By: Jabs

Jabs — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:49:21 +0000

Hiya person calling themselves ‘Anonymous’ on a RUMOR site – LOL!

Wow, I state my opinion with the reasons and you question my sanity – LOL!
You must be not only desperate but also dense.

Equipment like dreams should NOT be distanced too far from reality lest we question your intellect.

You expect anyone to now take anything on a RUMOR site as now serious fact, indeed?
Many here are upset perhaps because I point to reality while in your DREAMLAND.
How ironic, eh?

By: Landscape Photo

Landscape Photo — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:41:01 +0000

Saying D700s to have D3s sensor is no different than a D700x with the D3x sensor. D3s was released just a couple of months ago. If it’s possible tomorrow, than a D700x is plausible the same amount.

IMO, after the announcement of a 14mp Coolpix, it would be funny to introduce another 12mp dSLR; it’s late for that reason, the river is flowing. And it’s yet early to stick the same D3s sensor on a cheaper body. If you agree on this, D700x has more priority.

Isn’t it contradicting? 6 months could be enough to put the leading model’s sensor on a D700, but 18 months could be still early for even 18mp. I can sense real double standard, even some hypocrisy here.

Nikon doesn’t always need the highest model to introduce novelty. The first video-camera was a prosumer D90, then we saw it on D300s & D3s. Same applies at other areas. It’s very logical to see a 18mp sensor on D800 before anything else. Again, what’s missing with D3s or D3x, so that a D4 will bring solution tomorrow?

18 months is the usual timeframe for upgrades. D800 is the most urgent & anticipated camera upon anything else, because it can merge multiple disciplines and expectations in one model for a reasonable price & weight. 18mp D800 is far ok for both someone who wants video, and somewhat ok for someone who wants hi-res. It will be a volume product.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:21:51 +0000

The prob is not an unrelated campaign.

It rather is that it sometimes feels as if the company is unrelated too.
Can’t see why else things should heat up the way they did.

Obviously expectations are much higher and did not get satisfied by the last releases.