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		<title>By: Jabs</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2010/02/26/interview-with-nikon-pma-2010.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-55581</link>
		<dc:creator>Jabs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 03:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A question to everyone?
Any idea why so many of the Winter Olympics pictures from Vancouver look &#039;grainy&#039;, off-color and a little &#039;strange&#039; to me compared to the Summer Olympics last year in Beijing?

Is it the snow, ice, equipment or what?
I also note a lot of pictures with very bad exposures especially in the sky (really dark, loss of detail and underexposed)?
WHAT gives!

The pictures from Beijing look far better to my eyes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A question to everyone?<br />
Any idea why so many of the Winter Olympics pictures from Vancouver look &#8216;grainy&#8217;, off-color and a little &#8216;strange&#8217; to me compared to the Summer Olympics last year in Beijing?</p>
<p>Is it the snow, ice, equipment or what?<br />
I also note a lot of pictures with very bad exposures especially in the sky (really dark, loss of detail and underexposed)?<br />
WHAT gives!</p>
<p>The pictures from Beijing look far better to my eyes!</p>
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		<title>By: Jabs</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2010/02/26/interview-with-nikon-pma-2010.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-55559</link>
		<dc:creator>Jabs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 18:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two things missed by many Nikon &#039;detractors&#039; here or even &#039;complainicons&#039; (from Decepticons - Transformer &#039;humor&#039;)?
Many posters drum on and on about Nikon being stuck or unable to go beyond 12 megapixel and act like that is fact.
LOL!
Are we that stupid or that desperate now?

Ever heard of the D3X that is the best 35mm or FULL FRAME DSLR right now and so who makes that?
They seem to want Nikon to perhaps make all of their DSLR&#039;s 24 megapixels or act like the D3X does not exist!
Well, if a 24 megapixel smaller body is released and then - now what?

Have we then the right to say now that Canon is stuck at 21 megapixels and has been there for a while or should we just ignore you?

Duuh!

Let us perhaps long for better cameras from ALL manufacturers and a pushing of better OUTPUT.

Nikon and Sony have the highest megapixel cameras in ALL of 35mm or full frame (FX) DSLR;s plus Sony has two 24 megapixel bodies with one cheaper than any Canon full frame body!
NOW - what do you have to say about that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two things missed by many Nikon &#8216;detractors&#8217; here or even &#8216;complainicons&#8217; (from Decepticons &#8211; Transformer &#8216;humor&#8217;)?<br />
Many posters drum on and on about Nikon being stuck or unable to go beyond 12 megapixel and act like that is fact.<br />
LOL!<br />
Are we that stupid or that desperate now?</p>
<p>Ever heard of the D3X that is the best 35mm or FULL FRAME DSLR right now and so who makes that?<br />
They seem to want Nikon to perhaps make all of their DSLR&#8217;s 24 megapixels or act like the D3X does not exist!<br />
Well, if a 24 megapixel smaller body is released and then &#8211; now what?</p>
<p>Have we then the right to say now that Canon is stuck at 21 megapixels and has been there for a while or should we just ignore you?</p>
<p>Duuh!</p>
<p>Let us perhaps long for better cameras from ALL manufacturers and a pushing of better OUTPUT.</p>
<p>Nikon and Sony have the highest megapixel cameras in ALL of 35mm or full frame (FX) DSLR;s plus Sony has two 24 megapixel bodies with one cheaper than any Canon full frame body!<br />
NOW &#8211; what do you have to say about that?</p>
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		<title>By: Jabs</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2010/02/26/interview-with-nikon-pma-2010.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-55480</link>
		<dc:creator>Jabs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 15:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey ANONYCOW,
Sorry but not a loonie and not about to buy espteric $500.00 &#039;golden cables&#039; - LOL!
Great sound reproduction can be had at various levels of cost and you don&#039;t need to spend a fortune to do this.
Elitism and audiophile are not the same!
Deep pocketed (rich) and Technically astute are not the same!

I am realistic and see the merits of a lot EVEN if I cannot personally afford it.

Envy is a very bad sin - being stupid and gullible is also a great fault of humanity.

Have a great day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey ANONYCOW,<br />
Sorry but not a loonie and not about to buy espteric $500.00 &#8216;golden cables&#8217; &#8211; LOL!<br />
Great sound reproduction can be had at various levels of cost and you don&#8217;t need to spend a fortune to do this.<br />
Elitism and audiophile are not the same!<br />
Deep pocketed (rich) and Technically astute are not the same!</p>
<p>I am realistic and see the merits of a lot EVEN if I cannot personally afford it.</p>
<p>Envy is a very bad sin &#8211; being stupid and gullible is also a great fault of humanity.</p>
<p>Have a great day!</p>
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		<title>By: Jabs</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2010/02/26/interview-with-nikon-pma-2010.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-55478</link>
		<dc:creator>Jabs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 15:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings USPANDEY,
How are you?
Well, I try to be honest and sometimes I am brutally honest. I see Marketing people obsessed with money dreams trying to make almost everything already  good instead of being better, more disposable or have a shorter lifespan so you can go buy another model of the same product in a few months. The trend is actually counter productive as we end up with disposable equipment and our disposable income evaporates and then &#039;condenses&#039; into their pockets or their representatives - LOL!
Small cameras are great for many people who like trendy things even if the benefits do not outweigh the technical gains. I prefer Technically Advanced cameras and a move towards a 16 bit or even 24 bit image pipeline from sensor to RAW output (hate jpegs and prefer .tga -TARGA or even TIFF), so perhaps in the minority. 
The Marketers often attempt to dumb us down and then feed us &quot;specmanship&quot; as new features while not offering any tangible gains whatsoever.
I have been a photographer and a user of Technology for a while and I avoid a lot of Web sites and their commentators, as many seem to be tied to various brands due to &#039;payola&#039; or them pushing a particular brand even if it is horrible, due to them being paid to push that in some form. You now have Internet hawkers and people seem to live or die by their new found &#039;gurus&#039; and they quote the nonsense or crap spouted by these newfangled &#039;talking heads&#039;.
Such is life in Technology now!
You see all the arguments all over the Internet but rarely you see anyone wondering in a post whether the so-called facts being spewed are real or garbage posing as real data - LOL!
Fools making fools of others comes to mind or the blind leading their &#039;blinder&#039; followers.
Too many outlets for information - leads to many absurd or bogus claims and since we are free to post as we like, then we all have to deal with this &#039;orgy&#039; of nonsense passing as real knowledge.
We have Internet &#039;pickpockets&#039; now drumming up business with hoopla and people follow them like they worship them - so sad.

Anyhow, their problem.
I looked at your web site briefly and will look at it more in-depth later, as busy.

Have a good one and I prefer to be in the background solving problems instead of trying to direct people&#039;s lives. Things will always change as Quincy Jones related in his epic - &#039;Everything Must Change&#039;, but sometimes we have artificial change induced by pretenders or even frauds, so be careful what you wish for.
Technical excellence is hard to keep going in a world overloaded with information or even misinformation, so one human here and thus unable to stem the tide of that mess - LOL!
Have a good one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings USPANDEY,<br />
How are you?<br />
Well, I try to be honest and sometimes I am brutally honest. I see Marketing people obsessed with money dreams trying to make almost everything already  good instead of being better, more disposable or have a shorter lifespan so you can go buy another model of the same product in a few months. The trend is actually counter productive as we end up with disposable equipment and our disposable income evaporates and then &#8216;condenses&#8217; into their pockets or their representatives &#8211; LOL!<br />
Small cameras are great for many people who like trendy things even if the benefits do not outweigh the technical gains. I prefer Technically Advanced cameras and a move towards a 16 bit or even 24 bit image pipeline from sensor to RAW output (hate jpegs and prefer .tga -TARGA or even TIFF), so perhaps in the minority.<br />
The Marketers often attempt to dumb us down and then feed us &#8220;specmanship&#8221; as new features while not offering any tangible gains whatsoever.<br />
I have been a photographer and a user of Technology for a while and I avoid a lot of Web sites and their commentators, as many seem to be tied to various brands due to &#8216;payola&#8217; or them pushing a particular brand even if it is horrible, due to them being paid to push that in some form. You now have Internet hawkers and people seem to live or die by their new found &#8216;gurus&#8217; and they quote the nonsense or crap spouted by these newfangled &#8216;talking heads&#8217;.<br />
Such is life in Technology now!<br />
You see all the arguments all over the Internet but rarely you see anyone wondering in a post whether the so-called facts being spewed are real or garbage posing as real data &#8211; LOL!<br />
Fools making fools of others comes to mind or the blind leading their &#8216;blinder&#8217; followers.<br />
Too many outlets for information &#8211; leads to many absurd or bogus claims and since we are free to post as we like, then we all have to deal with this &#8216;orgy&#8217; of nonsense passing as real knowledge.<br />
We have Internet &#8216;pickpockets&#8217; now drumming up business with hoopla and people follow them like they worship them &#8211; so sad.</p>
<p>Anyhow, their problem.<br />
I looked at your web site briefly and will look at it more in-depth later, as busy.</p>
<p>Have a good one and I prefer to be in the background solving problems instead of trying to direct people&#8217;s lives. Things will always change as Quincy Jones related in his epic &#8211; &#8216;Everything Must Change&#8217;, but sometimes we have artificial change induced by pretenders or even frauds, so be careful what you wish for.<br />
Technical excellence is hard to keep going in a world overloaded with information or even misinformation, so one human here and thus unable to stem the tide of that mess &#8211; LOL!<br />
Have a good one.</p>
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		<title>By: uspandey</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2010/02/26/interview-with-nikon-pma-2010.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-55442</link>
		<dc:creator>uspandey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 04:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jabs! I was dying waiting to read something sensible like this, someone who could call a spade a spade and be done with it! I&#039;ve put forth similar ideas on my blog http://uspandey.in/ .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jabs! I was dying waiting to read something sensible like this, someone who could call a spade a spade and be done with it! I&#8217;ve put forth similar ideas on my blog <a href="http://uspandey.in/" rel="nofollow">http://uspandey.in/</a> .</p>
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		<title>By: anonycow</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonycow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 01:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re one of those audiophile loonies, amirite?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re one of those audiophile loonies, amirite?</p>
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		<title>By: Jabs</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2010/02/26/interview-with-nikon-pma-2010.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-55399</link>
		<dc:creator>Jabs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 16:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah BAKKA,
FLAC&#039;s and 24 bit WAV&#039;s are great but not as good as a well made CD without Auto Tune ... LOL!
I use VLC Media player too and others even better under Linux but that&#039;s my thing!

I have a 24 bit/192 Khz pipeline in Ubuntu Studio 64bit, so ALL lower resolutions sound bad to me.
Spoiled, perhaps!
Space for files (or a lack of space - LOL) requires compression, so the Laws of Physics take precedent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah BAKKA,<br />
FLAC&#8217;s and 24 bit WAV&#8217;s are great but not as good as a well made CD without Auto Tune &#8230; LOL!<br />
I use VLC Media player too and others even better under Linux but that&#8217;s my thing!</p>
<p>I have a 24 bit/192 Khz pipeline in Ubuntu Studio 64bit, so ALL lower resolutions sound bad to me.<br />
Spoiled, perhaps!<br />
Space for files (or a lack of space &#8211; LOL) requires compression, so the Laws of Physics take precedent.</p>
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		<title>By: Jabs</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2010/02/26/interview-with-nikon-pma-2010.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-55398</link>
		<dc:creator>Jabs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 16:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Invisible Man,
LOL!
Yeah - greed has strange results.
We make things in cheaper locales and pay people less to make them while selling them for more and then the market goes bust and we are stuck with mediocre goods made in mediocre factories by lower price labor.
Such is life currently.
Technology now allows us to make better products at lower prices due to miniaturization, lower process like 45nm, 32nm or 28nm silicon production BUT the increasing complexities often make things a little more expensive as Research and the increasing costs to make a Product has escalated even though we have bigger, faster and better computers to aid in design and manufacturing.
Building Factories and Research Centers plus expensive Engineers have escalated costs (not to mention the exorbitant Marketing costs of Print, Television, Movies and the Internet) .
Perhaps the Camera Manufacturers learn from the &#039;foolish&#039; Automotive Manufacturers/Marketers who are caught up in an asinine horsepower race and features bloat and we end up like General Motors who tried to swallow the world and died from trying to be too many things to too many persons andnot great at anything really.
I equate the horsepower race with the megapixel race and the CPU megahertz or core count races.
We all lose, it seems.
Perfect a feature and then ADD better usability and repeatability to the item might work better in the long term, but I don&#039;t know.
NOT a Manufacturer and not on some crazy ego driven route to topple my competitors - LOL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Invisible Man,<br />
LOL!<br />
Yeah &#8211; greed has strange results.<br />
We make things in cheaper locales and pay people less to make them while selling them for more and then the market goes bust and we are stuck with mediocre goods made in mediocre factories by lower price labor.<br />
Such is life currently.<br />
Technology now allows us to make better products at lower prices due to miniaturization, lower process like 45nm, 32nm or 28nm silicon production BUT the increasing complexities often make things a little more expensive as Research and the increasing costs to make a Product has escalated even though we have bigger, faster and better computers to aid in design and manufacturing.<br />
Building Factories and Research Centers plus expensive Engineers have escalated costs (not to mention the exorbitant Marketing costs of Print, Television, Movies and the Internet) .<br />
Perhaps the Camera Manufacturers learn from the &#8216;foolish&#8217; Automotive Manufacturers/Marketers who are caught up in an asinine horsepower race and features bloat and we end up like General Motors who tried to swallow the world and died from trying to be too many things to too many persons andnot great at anything really.<br />
I equate the horsepower race with the megapixel race and the CPU megahertz or core count races.<br />
We all lose, it seems.<br />
Perfect a feature and then ADD better usability and repeatability to the item might work better in the long term, but I don&#8217;t know.<br />
NOT a Manufacturer and not on some crazy ego driven route to topple my competitors &#8211; LOL!</p>
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		<title>By: Jabs</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2010/02/26/interview-with-nikon-pma-2010.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-55397</link>
		<dc:creator>Jabs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 16:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Nick,
Wait til they &#039;perfect&#039; the TOUCH experience for cameras - LOL!
We might all be using touch screen cameras just like when autofocus started, most pros complained and I dove headlong into the Nikon F3AF and got weird stares then.
The infancy of an idea does not always determine its&#039; acceptance or even it taking over the market.
Same thing with DSLR&#039;s - they will never be better than film, especially Velvia 50D or Kodachrome 25 Pro - so said many pros years ago (and some say that still today), but look at where we are today?
D3X!
I wonder what we will be shooting and at what resolution in say 10 years?

Maybe a 50 megapixel Touch Screen or neural interface camera/phone/gps/bottle warmer/babysitter COMBO?
LOL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Nick,<br />
Wait til they &#8216;perfect&#8217; the TOUCH experience for cameras &#8211; LOL!<br />
We might all be using touch screen cameras just like when autofocus started, most pros complained and I dove headlong into the Nikon F3AF and got weird stares then.<br />
The infancy of an idea does not always determine its&#8217; acceptance or even it taking over the market.<br />
Same thing with DSLR&#8217;s &#8211; they will never be better than film, especially Velvia 50D or Kodachrome 25 Pro &#8211; so said many pros years ago (and some say that still today), but look at where we are today?<br />
D3X!<br />
I wonder what we will be shooting and at what resolution in say 10 years?</p>
<p>Maybe a 50 megapixel Touch Screen or neural interface camera/phone/gps/bottle warmer/babysitter COMBO?<br />
LOL!</p>
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		<title>By: Jabs</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2010/02/26/interview-with-nikon-pma-2010.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-55394</link>
		<dc:creator>Jabs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 16:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings Preston,
I love the I-Pod/I-Phone, I-Pad experience but my complaint is about &#039;dumbing down&#039; the output quality of a thing to make it appeal to the masses of users like I see Canon doing now.
We have touch screen cameras plus Apple has cameras on their gear with both still and video capabilities on them.
Hence, we look at this convenience as perhaps taking away the market for DSLR&#039;s and the enormous creativity we get from that. I see the market shifting to general purpose cameras styled to appeal to everyone who knows nothing about or even does not care about quality, but about mere convenience.
You see the same thing as I was an &#039;audiofile&#039; who loved AR (Acoustic Research) equipment - the old good stuff -LOL! You see newer less capable equipment pushed as boutique goods because perhaps it got too expensive to make the higher quality stuff. Ever listened to an AR TSW-910?
Compare that to an I-Pod, pal!
It is not about interface however great but about about shifting priorities in the market and the resulting worse products.
We need to let the Camera Manufacturers know that we don&#039;t want &#039;dumbed-down&#039; products that are basically throw away items, though the market has already shifted to that.
Time moves on in equipment no matter how stupid or tragic the results - LOL!
Have a good one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings Preston,<br />
I love the I-Pod/I-Phone, I-Pad experience but my complaint is about &#8216;dumbing down&#8217; the output quality of a thing to make it appeal to the masses of users like I see Canon doing now.<br />
We have touch screen cameras plus Apple has cameras on their gear with both still and video capabilities on them.<br />
Hence, we look at this convenience as perhaps taking away the market for DSLR&#8217;s and the enormous creativity we get from that. I see the market shifting to general purpose cameras styled to appeal to everyone who knows nothing about or even does not care about quality, but about mere convenience.<br />
You see the same thing as I was an &#8216;audiofile&#8217; who loved AR (Acoustic Research) equipment &#8211; the old good stuff -LOL! You see newer less capable equipment pushed as boutique goods because perhaps it got too expensive to make the higher quality stuff. Ever listened to an AR TSW-910?<br />
Compare that to an I-Pod, pal!<br />
It is not about interface however great but about about shifting priorities in the market and the resulting worse products.<br />
We need to let the Camera Manufacturers know that we don&#8217;t want &#8216;dumbed-down&#8217; products that are basically throw away items, though the market has already shifted to that.<br />
Time moves on in equipment no matter how stupid or tragic the results &#8211; LOL!<br />
Have a good one.</p>
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		<title>By: Jabs</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2010/02/26/interview-with-nikon-pma-2010.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-55386</link>
		<dc:creator>Jabs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 15:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings ARTTWISTED,
I am not saying that a Leica is NOT a real camera but I am alluding to the fact that Leica is a boutique camera and not the best camera either in the old days or even now.
FACT!
An F2 or F3 is better than anything almost ever made by Leica as far as a camera body is made, as I have owned lots of cameras and shot slides (Kodakchrome 25, 64, 200, Velvia 50, 64T, 100, 400, Ektachrome and others), Black and White, Color prints and even Polaroid Instant slides and the Leica bodies are legendary but always behind the times.
I remember when myself and my well known brother (won&#039;t say his name) went on a shoot out in Manhattan - me with an F3AF-MD4/MN2 Nicads plus an 80 F2.8 AF and a Nikon polarizer, Velvia 100, a Nikon N4004AF with a 35-70 F2.8 and Fuji Velvia 400 plus a Nikon Polarizer, a Nikon F3HP-MD4/MN2 Nicads and some Fuji Neopan 100 and he with his Leicas, Minolta/Leica CLE camera, Canon new F1 and motor drive plus he was shooting Agfapan, Ilford B/W and T-Maxx (I think) plus some Velvia 100 or some other color slide film.
We walked from downtown Manhattan (Canal Street area) in SOHO to midtown 45-47th Street and shot the very same subjects as they (both of my brothers are photographers) were telling me that the F3 was a new and lousy electronic camera plus that you did not need autofocus as in the then new F3AF. My other brother shot manually only (manual bodies and Gossen Luna Pro or Minolta  meteras) in using a Nikon FM-2 with MD-10 motordrive and only used fast Nikon glass (35 1.4, 85 1.4, 105 1.8, 135 2.0, 180 2.8 ED). We all were excited to see what these cameras could do. We went to Duggal Labs in Manhattan and they developed our results while we went and had a meal.
The results:
The F3 blew both the Leica and the Canon away and so said the pros who looked at our results there. The Leica lens have a lot of contrast but give me a fast autofocus, fast motordrive Nikon any day. I sold my first Leica to my brother and he has many Leicas but I shy away from them, as I believe that Nikon makes better PERFORMING products than they do - PERIOD. Leica has great lens and lousy bodies in my opinion. In street shooting, I blew away my experienced street shooting brother the Leica specialist with an N4004AF, and F3AF with a 80 F2.8 and also took more and better pictures than he did even though he was more familiar with that area of Manhattan than I was.
We shot from daylight to overcast evening and the N4004 and F3AF were quicker than the rangefinder as I got the shots and he missed them, especially when we encountered fast moving pigeons. I basically shot about three shots to his one and all of mine were in focus plus I know how to frame accurately and shoot quickly which you can&#039;t do as well with a rangefinder and its&#039; limited choice of lens and focal lengths.
I like the new Leica S2 and the shots from it are fantastic but I think the M9 is a piece of crap being sold to boutique camera buyers - for the money of an M9, give me a Nikon D3X or even a D3s, as I consider those two cameras to be better than anything ever made by Leica plus they take better pictures than the M9 any day. 
Sorry pal, but blunt and experienced camera user. I even shot a Yashica Mat TLR (Twin Lens Reflex) with 120 and 220 Velvia 50 while guessing the exposure after confirmation from the cameras built-in meter (?) and it blew away both the Leica, the Canon and the Nikons - LOL!
You use what you like and I use what PROVES to be better.
Sorry if my frankness upsets you, but I prefer to tell it like I see it.
The test then was about Electronic cameras and autofocus -vs- a rangefinder and thus the pros were excited, as many had never seen the results from an F3AF but some were familiar with the F3 and the then new F3HP. I was on the cutting edge and they were stuck in the past PLUS my results were way better as I was shooting slides and also using Nikon regular and circular polarizers. The newer cameras did not need exposure compensation to get accurate results and thus when I shot store fronts with neon lights, I got little or no reflections plus accurate exposures which he did not get.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings ARTTWISTED,<br />
I am not saying that a Leica is NOT a real camera but I am alluding to the fact that Leica is a boutique camera and not the best camera either in the old days or even now.<br />
FACT!<br />
An F2 or F3 is better than anything almost ever made by Leica as far as a camera body is made, as I have owned lots of cameras and shot slides (Kodakchrome 25, 64, 200, Velvia 50, 64T, 100, 400, Ektachrome and others), Black and White, Color prints and even Polaroid Instant slides and the Leica bodies are legendary but always behind the times.<br />
I remember when myself and my well known brother (won&#8217;t say his name) went on a shoot out in Manhattan &#8211; me with an F3AF-MD4/MN2 Nicads plus an 80 F2.8 AF and a Nikon polarizer, Velvia 100, a Nikon N4004AF with a 35-70 F2.8 and Fuji Velvia 400 plus a Nikon Polarizer, a Nikon F3HP-MD4/MN2 Nicads and some Fuji Neopan 100 and he with his Leicas, Minolta/Leica CLE camera, Canon new F1 and motor drive plus he was shooting Agfapan, Ilford B/W and T-Maxx (I think) plus some Velvia 100 or some other color slide film.<br />
We walked from downtown Manhattan (Canal Street area) in SOHO to midtown 45-47th Street and shot the very same subjects as they (both of my brothers are photographers) were telling me that the F3 was a new and lousy electronic camera plus that you did not need autofocus as in the then new F3AF. My other brother shot manually only (manual bodies and Gossen Luna Pro or Minolta  meteras) in using a Nikon FM-2 with MD-10 motordrive and only used fast Nikon glass (35 1.4, 85 1.4, 105 1.8, 135 2.0, 180 2.8 ED). We all were excited to see what these cameras could do. We went to Duggal Labs in Manhattan and they developed our results while we went and had a meal.<br />
The results:<br />
The F3 blew both the Leica and the Canon away and so said the pros who looked at our results there. The Leica lens have a lot of contrast but give me a fast autofocus, fast motordrive Nikon any day. I sold my first Leica to my brother and he has many Leicas but I shy away from them, as I believe that Nikon makes better PERFORMING products than they do &#8211; PERIOD. Leica has great lens and lousy bodies in my opinion. In street shooting, I blew away my experienced street shooting brother the Leica specialist with an N4004AF, and F3AF with a 80 F2.8 and also took more and better pictures than he did even though he was more familiar with that area of Manhattan than I was.<br />
We shot from daylight to overcast evening and the N4004 and F3AF were quicker than the rangefinder as I got the shots and he missed them, especially when we encountered fast moving pigeons. I basically shot about three shots to his one and all of mine were in focus plus I know how to frame accurately and shoot quickly which you can&#8217;t do as well with a rangefinder and its&#8217; limited choice of lens and focal lengths.<br />
I like the new Leica S2 and the shots from it are fantastic but I think the M9 is a piece of crap being sold to boutique camera buyers &#8211; for the money of an M9, give me a Nikon D3X or even a D3s, as I consider those two cameras to be better than anything ever made by Leica plus they take better pictures than the M9 any day.<br />
Sorry pal, but blunt and experienced camera user. I even shot a Yashica Mat TLR (Twin Lens Reflex) with 120 and 220 Velvia 50 while guessing the exposure after confirmation from the cameras built-in meter (?) and it blew away both the Leica, the Canon and the Nikons &#8211; LOL!<br />
You use what you like and I use what PROVES to be better.<br />
Sorry if my frankness upsets you, but I prefer to tell it like I see it.<br />
The test then was about Electronic cameras and autofocus -vs- a rangefinder and thus the pros were excited, as many had never seen the results from an F3AF but some were familiar with the F3 and the then new F3HP. I was on the cutting edge and they were stuck in the past PLUS my results were way better as I was shooting slides and also using Nikon regular and circular polarizers. The newer cameras did not need exposure compensation to get accurate results and thus when I shot store fronts with neon lights, I got little or no reflections plus accurate exposures which he did not get.</p>
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		<title>By: bakka</title>
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		<dc:creator>bakka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 15:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flac&#039;s+24bit wav&#039;s are pretty damn good...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flac&#8217;s+24bit wav&#8217;s are pretty damn good&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: bakka</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2010/02/26/interview-with-nikon-pma-2010.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-55384</link>
		<dc:creator>bakka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 15:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mwahahaha@alex</description>
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		<title>By: Reza Gorji</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reza Gorji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 14:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree 100%.</description>
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		<title>By: The invisible man.</title>
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		<dc:creator>The invisible man.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 14:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man,
I agree with you, but you are 0.005% of the camera&#039;s market.
Yes, we don&#039;t make things like we use to do, but guess who&#039;s fault ?
US, YOU, EVERYONE, by asking always more for  less $, we are pushing manufacturers to make poorly made cameras, if they don&#039;t do shit, they dies, because the others manufactures are making the SHIT WE ASK for always less money.
We are blaming all thoses poor countries in the world for having slaves workers, starving and homeless, but that&#039;s BECAUSE OF US, by buying a $2 T shirt made in Asia,  WE are making thoses peoples slaves.
There is no more slave in USA, we just moved them in countries where it&#039;s legal !
Look, you whant a D700 made like a Pentax LX or a Nikon FA ?
Be ready to pay $10.000 for it.
What ? You don&#039;t want to pay that much for a camera ? Then be quiet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man,<br />
I agree with you, but you are 0.005% of the camera&#8217;s market.<br />
Yes, we don&#8217;t make things like we use to do, but guess who&#8217;s fault ?<br />
US, YOU, EVERYONE, by asking always more for  less $, we are pushing manufacturers to make poorly made cameras, if they don&#8217;t do shit, they dies, because the others manufactures are making the SHIT WE ASK for always less money.<br />
We are blaming all thoses poor countries in the world for having slaves workers, starving and homeless, but that&#8217;s BECAUSE OF US, by buying a $2 T shirt made in Asia,  WE are making thoses peoples slaves.<br />
There is no more slave in USA, we just moved them in countries where it&#8217;s legal !<br />
Look, you whant a D700 made like a Pentax LX or a Nikon FA ?<br />
Be ready to pay $10.000 for it.<br />
What ? You don&#8217;t want to pay that much for a camera ? Then be quiet.</p>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2010/02/26/interview-with-nikon-pma-2010.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-55361</link>
		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 07:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also menus like the ipod don&#039;t apply to camera work.  speed is of the essence when you&#039;re adjusting camera settings.  We have no time to dig through buried menus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also menus like the ipod don&#8217;t apply to camera work.  speed is of the essence when you&#8217;re adjusting camera settings.  We have no time to dig through buried menus</p>
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		<title>By: zzddrr</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2010/02/26/interview-with-nikon-pma-2010.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-55359</link>
		<dc:creator>zzddrr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 07:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good point. if that&#039;s the case then they have nothing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good point. if that&#8217;s the case then they have nothing</p>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 06:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thom has been wrong about a lot of things.  He&#039;s a smart guy, but his predictions are just that - predictions.  I think he&#039;s at less than 50% right most years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thom has been wrong about a lot of things.  He&#8217;s a smart guy, but his predictions are just that &#8211; predictions.  I think he&#8217;s at less than 50% right most years.</p>
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		<title>By: aetas</title>
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		<dc:creator>aetas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 04:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have not seen a post I agree with more in quite awhile.
+1</description>
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+1</p>
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		<title>By: zack</title>
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		<dc:creator>zack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 04:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...and more expensive</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and more expensive</p>
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