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		<title>By: PHB</title>
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		<dc:creator>PHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 02:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, we can also be fairly certain that Nikon will not release a f/1.2 lens unless it is totally awesome.

Canon on the other hand is happy to lob s**t over the wall and hope it sells.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, we can also be fairly certain that Nikon will not release a f/1.2 lens unless it is totally awesome.</p>
<p>Canon on the other hand is happy to lob s**t over the wall and hope it sells.</p>
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		<title>By: Reggie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 22:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look at the great work that Pete Souza is doing with the Canon 35mm 1.4 as official White House phtographer. Most of his shots are with that lens. It&#039;s a great photojournalism lens. The D700 and D3s are better bodies than the 5D Mark II that he&#039;s shooting with now, but having that lens lets him get close and wide, and isolate the subject. Maybe that&#039;s why he&#039;s sticking with Canon. Come on Nikon, give us an AF-S 35mm 1.4.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/whitehouse/show/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at the great work that Pete Souza is doing with the Canon 35mm 1.4 as official White House phtographer. Most of his shots are with that lens. It&#8217;s a great photojournalism lens. The D700 and D3s are better bodies than the 5D Mark II that he&#8217;s shooting with now, but having that lens lets him get close and wide, and isolate the subject. Maybe that&#8217;s why he&#8217;s sticking with Canon. Come on Nikon, give us an AF-S 35mm 1.4.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/whitehouse/show/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/whitehouse/show/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 14:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice explanation off the difficulties in creating a f1.2. Glad to hear that despite what I have heard  it should be possible. I guess the only thing we can say is certian is that if Nikon does release a 50mm f1.2 it will be major $$$</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice explanation off the difficulties in creating a f1.2. Glad to hear that despite what I have heard  it should be possible. I guess the only thing we can say is certian is that if Nikon does release a 50mm f1.2 it will be major $$$</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 06:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You could be right, Nikon may not do direct replacements for all the old primes and be sticking with f/1.4 for the majority of the ones they replace and not offer multiple iterations. Will we see a 85mm f/1.4 &amp; f/1.8 or will Nikon just give us a 1.4 edition and leave it at that?

Maybe there are additional DX primes tucked in there as well which will just appear out of the blue, like the 85mm DX Micro last year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You could be right, Nikon may not do direct replacements for all the old primes and be sticking with f/1.4 for the majority of the ones they replace and not offer multiple iterations. Will we see a 85mm f/1.4 &amp; f/1.8 or will Nikon just give us a 1.4 edition and leave it at that?</p>
<p>Maybe there are additional DX primes tucked in there as well which will just appear out of the blue, like the 85mm DX Micro last year.</p>
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		<title>By: PHB</title>
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		<dc:creator>PHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 05:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Canon has been spreading that claim. It is not necessarily true.

The old f/1.2 has a huge chunk of glass at the rear. But that does not mean that is necessary for an f/1.2 or that both the front and the back surfaces need to be that large. Nikon could even mount the electrical connections using the glass itself as the support. 

There is no physical significance to an f-stop number. It is the ratio of focal length to aperture. Aperture is the physical quantity. The 400mm f/2.8 has an aperture of 142mm, but somehow Nikon and Canon both make one.

There are challenges at the wide end of course. But Nikon just launched a 24 f/1.4 that is nowhere near as extreme as their 14 f/2.8. Most people used to think the 28mm was the limit for f/1.4.

The real challenge to the f/1.2 lens is how to focus the thing. Canon hasn&#039;t solved that problem yet themselves. The depth of field is so narrow that the AF system has trouble. And with such a narrow depth of field any error in focusing is going to show.

Nikon looks to be pretty much done playing catch up to Canon now. The return of the Noctilux would at least clean away some of the fanboys from the forums.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Canon has been spreading that claim. It is not necessarily true.</p>
<p>The old f/1.2 has a huge chunk of glass at the rear. But that does not mean that is necessary for an f/1.2 or that both the front and the back surfaces need to be that large. Nikon could even mount the electrical connections using the glass itself as the support. </p>
<p>There is no physical significance to an f-stop number. It is the ratio of focal length to aperture. Aperture is the physical quantity. The 400mm f/2.8 has an aperture of 142mm, but somehow Nikon and Canon both make one.</p>
<p>There are challenges at the wide end of course. But Nikon just launched a 24 f/1.4 that is nowhere near as extreme as their 14 f/2.8. Most people used to think the 28mm was the limit for f/1.4.</p>
<p>The real challenge to the f/1.2 lens is how to focus the thing. Canon hasn&#8217;t solved that problem yet themselves. The depth of field is so narrow that the AF system has trouble. And with such a narrow depth of field any error in focusing is going to show.</p>
<p>Nikon looks to be pretty much done playing catch up to Canon now. The return of the Noctilux would at least clean away some of the fanboys from the forums.</p>
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		<title>By: PHB</title>
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		<dc:creator>PHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 04:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree for zooms and long primes.

But the 35mm f/1.8 DX is $200. The FX version of the same lens is likely to cost $1200. That is likely to be the case with other wide DX primes. 

One feature of the 10-24 is that you can actually use it on FX from about 14-24. It will vignette any wider of course, but certainly viable as a stopgap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree for zooms and long primes.</p>
<p>But the 35mm f/1.8 DX is $200. The FX version of the same lens is likely to cost $1200. That is likely to be the case with other wide DX primes. </p>
<p>One feature of the 10-24 is that you can actually use it on FX from about 14-24. It will vignette any wider of course, but certainly viable as a stopgap.</p>
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		<title>By: PHB</title>
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		<dc:creator>PHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 04:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>STJ&#039;s text is ambiguous. The first time I read it, I thought he was saying &#039;when you put a 135 on DX it is an 85&#039;. What he means is that to get 135 equivalent on DX use an 85.

The 85mm f/1.4 is the lens I am after.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>STJ&#8217;s text is ambiguous. The first time I read it, I thought he was saying &#8216;when you put a 135 on DX it is an 85&#8242;. What he means is that to get 135 equivalent on DX use an 85.</p>
<p>The 85mm f/1.4 is the lens I am after.</p>
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		<title>By: PHB</title>
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		<dc:creator>PHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 04:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fast primes are at a rather higher price point than in the past. So they may come out somewhat more slowly. Also cropping with digital is rather easier than with film and we now have fantastic zooms, so there may not be the same need to fill out the prime range as before.

The primes have fewer elements and fewer degrees of design freedom. So I would expect the design process to be rather shorter than with zooms and allow for rather more re-use of design approaches. The ultra-teles are very close in design. 

What I am somewhat surprised by the absence of on the list is mention of DX primes. The 35mm f/1.8 DX has been a major success for Nikon. Those smaller, cheaper lenses are what keep the smaller independent photo shops going. Nobody predicted the last DX primes, they just popped up out of nowhere. I think we are likely to see another.

The 100-500 still confuses me. If they can make it at a size, weight and price that is not totally ludicrous then great. But at f/5.6 the front element is going to have to be close to 100mm if it is not going to vignette on FX.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fast primes are at a rather higher price point than in the past. So they may come out somewhat more slowly. Also cropping with digital is rather easier than with film and we now have fantastic zooms, so there may not be the same need to fill out the prime range as before.</p>
<p>The primes have fewer elements and fewer degrees of design freedom. So I would expect the design process to be rather shorter than with zooms and allow for rather more re-use of design approaches. The ultra-teles are very close in design. </p>
<p>What I am somewhat surprised by the absence of on the list is mention of DX primes. The 35mm f/1.8 DX has been a major success for Nikon. Those smaller, cheaper lenses are what keep the smaller independent photo shops going. Nobody predicted the last DX primes, they just popped up out of nowhere. I think we are likely to see another.</p>
<p>The 100-500 still confuses me. If they can make it at a size, weight and price that is not totally ludicrous then great. But at f/5.6 the front element is going to have to be close to 100mm if it is not going to vignette on FX.</p>
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		<title>By: ItsaChris</title>
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		<dc:creator>ItsaChris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 00:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;your right, nikon should get right to making YOUR lenses because YOUR the only photographer that matters. &quot;

Well to him he is the only photographer that matters.  Why do i care what you need?   

its nice to have options and that the best thing about shooting nikon or canon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;your right, nikon should get right to making YOUR lenses because YOUR the only photographer that matters. &#8221;</p>
<p>Well to him he is the only photographer that matters.  Why do i care what you need?   </p>
<p>its nice to have options and that the best thing about shooting nikon or canon.</p>
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		<title>By: ItsaChris</title>
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		<dc:creator>ItsaChris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 22:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nope
to get the same perspective.  
mm x 1.55 (DX = about 1.55 smaller than fx) =  perspective of FX
mm / 1.55 = perspective of DX 

so 85 on Dx = 135mm in the context of perspective compared to FX</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nope<br />
to get the same perspective.<br />
mm x 1.55 (DX = about 1.55 smaller than fx) =  perspective of FX<br />
mm / 1.55 = perspective of DX </p>
<p>so 85 on Dx = 135mm in the context of perspective compared to FX</p>
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		<title>By: Fried Toast</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2010/02/24/updated-list-of-expected-nikon-lenses-in-2010.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-54991</link>
		<dc:creator>Fried Toast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 22:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you contacted Nikon directly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you contacted Nikon directly?</p>
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		<title>By: Fried Toast</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fried Toast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 22:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are awesome! Just used an ED fieldscope two weeks ago and could see birds flying near the island of Kunashir 25km across the Sea of Okhotsk (from the Japan side). My friend and I were amazed!

The things are darned spendy, tho&#039;. As is the DSLR attachment (itself ~$900, IIRC). 

Asked the Nikon rep in Ginza, Tokyo about why they don&#039;t use these (small, compact, but great range) for their DSLR lenses. He said they don&#039;t present the quality needed for DSLR lenses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are awesome! Just used an ED fieldscope two weeks ago and could see birds flying near the island of Kunashir 25km across the Sea of Okhotsk (from the Japan side). My friend and I were amazed!</p>
<p>The things are darned spendy, tho&#8217;. As is the DSLR attachment (itself ~$900, IIRC). </p>
<p>Asked the Nikon rep in Ginza, Tokyo about why they don&#8217;t use these (small, compact, but great range) for their DSLR lenses. He said they don&#8217;t present the quality needed for DSLR lenses.</p>
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		<title>By: santela</title>
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		<dc:creator>santela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 22:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well... if u would just get off that weed, u might not need vr anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well&#8230; if u would just get off that weed, u might not need vr anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: marco</title>
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		<dc:creator>marco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 17:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s all true man!
Soon we wont have anymore lens in our machines! May be an organic eye instead of the conventional lens!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s all true man!<br />
Soon we wont have anymore lens in our machines! May be an organic eye instead of the conventional lens!</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think we&#039;ll see a 24-70 f/2.8 VR.  I really think that the only reason they put VR on the new 16-35 was to make up for it being f/4.  I would guess that VR is much cheaper than f2.8 optics, so they figured that VR would make up for that 1 stop of light loss by letting you shoot at slower shutter speeds.  If they ever made a 24-70 f/4, I bet it has VR, but I don&#039;t see them making a 24-70 f/2.8 VR anytime soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;ll see a 24-70 f/2.8 VR.  I really think that the only reason they put VR on the new 16-35 was to make up for it being f/4.  I would guess that VR is much cheaper than f2.8 optics, so they figured that VR would make up for that 1 stop of light loss by letting you shoot at slower shutter speeds.  If they ever made a 24-70 f/4, I bet it has VR, but I don&#8217;t see them making a 24-70 f/2.8 VR anytime soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Char</title>
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		<dc:creator>Char</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was meant to be ironic, right? Just to make sure...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was meant to be ironic, right? Just to make sure&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nubz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nubz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 14:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats what I meant.  If (when) I get a full frame camera and all I had was DX lenses, I would have to buy all new lenses to use it.  If all I have is full size lenses, I&#039;m fine.  The only DX lens that I had to get was the 10-24mm to have wide angle and I picked up a used 18-70mm when I sold my D80 since I had nothing wider than a 50mm for a trip I had planned.  My point was that I don&#039;t want to handcuff myself in only buying DX lenses.  Then all i can shoot is DX format.  I agree with what you posted too.  I want a full frame but would always keep a DX camera for my bigger zooms for the same readson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats what I meant.  If (when) I get a full frame camera and all I had was DX lenses, I would have to buy all new lenses to use it.  If all I have is full size lenses, I&#8217;m fine.  The only DX lens that I had to get was the 10-24mm to have wide angle and I picked up a used 18-70mm when I sold my D80 since I had nothing wider than a 50mm for a trip I had planned.  My point was that I don&#8217;t want to handcuff myself in only buying DX lenses.  Then all i can shoot is DX format.  I agree with what you posted too.  I want a full frame but would always keep a DX camera for my bigger zooms for the same readson.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 14:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think weeding is much better captured with the 14-24mm. You can get in really close to the weeds and have plenty of room for the weeder and an angry gray sky too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think weeding is much better captured with the 14-24mm. You can get in really close to the weeds and have plenty of room for the weeder and an angry gray sky too.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 14:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you get that backwards? Shouldn&#039;t 135mm on FX be ~200mm on DX?

Personally, I want an updated 85mm f/1.4. Bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you get that backwards? Shouldn&#8217;t 135mm on FX be ~200mm on DX?</p>
<p>Personally, I want an updated 85mm f/1.4. Bad.</p>
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		<title>By: The invisible man.</title>
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		<dc:creator>The invisible man.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 14:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>******* OFF TOPICS ************
Does anyone know where I can buy the &quot;updated part&quot; for the rewinding fork on the Nikon F100 ?
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Does anyone know where I can buy the &#8220;updated part&#8221; for the rewinding fork on the Nikon F100 ?<br />
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