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	<title>Comments on: Nikkor 24-120 f/4 VR will be released this year</title>
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		<title>By: Jaws</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 04:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am quite sure we will see something along these lines soon.  Whether it&#039;s a 24-120mm f/4 VRII or a 28-105mm f/4 VRII, I&#039;m quite sure we&#039;ll see a lens like this very likely in June or sometime next year.  

Although many of us have criticized the video feature being added to DSLRs, this will be a benefit that we will see from the video feature.  When zooming while shooting video you are going to want to be able to maintain the exposure and depth of field, and a constant aperture lens will be important in doing this.  

The 16-35mm f/4 VRII is largely a product of the video feature.  Nikon touts the new VRII as being good for shooting video, and that is why we see VR in such a short focal length lens.  Also, that lens is a constant aperture zoom due to wanting to make it easier for maintaining exposure and depth of field while shooting video.

So, in this instance we are benefitting by getting better lenses due to the video feature being put in the DSLRs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am quite sure we will see something along these lines soon.  Whether it&#8217;s a 24-120mm f/4 VRII or a 28-105mm f/4 VRII, I&#8217;m quite sure we&#8217;ll see a lens like this very likely in June or sometime next year.  </p>
<p>Although many of us have criticized the video feature being added to DSLRs, this will be a benefit that we will see from the video feature.  When zooming while shooting video you are going to want to be able to maintain the exposure and depth of field, and a constant aperture lens will be important in doing this.  </p>
<p>The 16-35mm f/4 VRII is largely a product of the video feature.  Nikon touts the new VRII as being good for shooting video, and that is why we see VR in such a short focal length lens.  Also, that lens is a constant aperture zoom due to wanting to make it easier for maintaining exposure and depth of field while shooting video.</p>
<p>So, in this instance we are benefitting by getting better lenses due to the video feature being put in the DSLRs.</p>
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		<title>By: Rock Kenwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rock Kenwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 11:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>resistance is futile....</description>
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		<title>By: another anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>another anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 08:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes, nikonkon give us more to know if there is something.. i know very little about optical constructions and have no real opinion on the problem and no idea which of you both can be right.. so let us poor know please ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, nikonkon give us more to know if there is something.. i know very little about optical constructions and have no real opinion on the problem and no idea which of you both can be right.. so let us poor know please <img src='http://nikonrumors.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Twoomy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twoomy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 21:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kon Reckwell: You make several mis-assumptions:

1. Just because a lens isn&#039;t 2.8 doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s a cheapo consumer lens. (I shoot mostly with the 24mm 3.5 PC-E and that&#039;s no hunk of junk.) The hope here is that Nikon&#039;s new line of 4.0 lenses are not el-cheapo lenses like the existing POS 24-120.

2. While the trinity of 2.8 zooms with a D3X may be the ultimate in quality, some of us do a lot of work in the backcountry and actually have to hike to our photography. Why carry overly big lenses if you&#039;re just going to shoot at F/11 and there is a cheaper smaller alternative? Throwing money at the most expensive solution isn&#039;t always the BEST solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kon Reckwell: You make several mis-assumptions:</p>
<p>1. Just because a lens isn&#8217;t 2.8 doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s a cheapo consumer lens. (I shoot mostly with the 24mm 3.5 PC-E and that&#8217;s no hunk of junk.) The hope here is that Nikon&#8217;s new line of 4.0 lenses are not el-cheapo lenses like the existing POS 24-120.</p>
<p>2. While the trinity of 2.8 zooms with a D3X may be the ultimate in quality, some of us do a lot of work in the backcountry and actually have to hike to our photography. Why carry overly big lenses if you&#8217;re just going to shoot at F/11 and there is a cheaper smaller alternative? Throwing money at the most expensive solution isn&#8217;t always the BEST solution.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 15:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely Nikon must be using NCM equipment to produce their lenses. (Please comment if you actually know about their production capability.) If so, the computer does not really care what shape it is told to make a lens. Are they molding lenses and then grinding them or grinding them from a &quot;blank&quot;? In any event, how much more difficult or expensive can it be for Nikon to use a floating element design with some aspheric elements to produce great corner to corner sharpness. Throw in the new lens coating process and they should be able to produce a high quality lens that performs well wide open (where the resolution is greatest), but is simply slower than the &quot;fast glass&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely Nikon must be using NCM equipment to produce their lenses. (Please comment if you actually know about their production capability.) If so, the computer does not really care what shape it is told to make a lens. Are they molding lenses and then grinding them or grinding them from a &#8220;blank&#8221;? In any event, how much more difficult or expensive can it be for Nikon to use a floating element design with some aspheric elements to produce great corner to corner sharpness. Throw in the new lens coating process and they should be able to produce a high quality lens that performs well wide open (where the resolution is greatest), but is simply slower than the &#8220;fast glass&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 15:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, it should not have to be stopped down to f8 to have acceptable performance. If anything, it should be sharp wide open at f4. The VR will give you the 2 to 3 f stops of shutter speed to deal with hand held shots and the rest are sharp off a tripod anyway. You can still get nice bokeh at f4 if the image is sharp from corner to corner. f4 does not have to mean poor quality. It can simply mean smaller and less expensive to produce.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, it should not have to be stopped down to f8 to have acceptable performance. If anything, it should be sharp wide open at f4. The VR will give you the 2 to 3 f stops of shutter speed to deal with hand held shots and the rest are sharp off a tripod anyway. You can still get nice bokeh at f4 if the image is sharp from corner to corner. f4 does not have to mean poor quality. It can simply mean smaller and less expensive to produce.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 15:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is the camera that should take on the Canon 5D MKII/III market. If Nikon prices it competitively, they could make large gains into that market segment as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is the camera that should take on the Canon 5D MKII/III market. If Nikon prices it competitively, they could make large gains into that market segment as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 08:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go Nikon! As a Canon shooter, this is awesome news. It&#039;ll hopefully kick Canon up the back end to start making decent glass, and stop relying on the fact that only they make f/4 zooms as a reason not to improve quality (just like they did with the 5D- they said they saw no reason to update it simply because at the time there was no competition).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go Nikon! As a Canon shooter, this is awesome news. It&#8217;ll hopefully kick Canon up the back end to start making decent glass, and stop relying on the fact that only they make f/4 zooms as a reason not to improve quality (just like they did with the 5D- they said they saw no reason to update it simply because at the time there was no competition).</p>
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		<title>By: Landscapes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Landscapes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 08:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>because typically a f/4 lens will be sharper for landscapes stopped down to f/8-f/16 than the 2.8 ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>because typically a f/4 lens will be sharper for landscapes stopped down to f/8-f/16 than the 2.8 ones.</p>
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		<title>By: PHB</title>
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		<dc:creator>PHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 03:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that to compare like with like we really should be considering noise at a particular resolution. But the description of the DxO tests suggests that they do not take resolution into account. The D3x suggests that they are compensating for resolution which is different.

In theory the max ISO rating is determined by the highest ISO rating that can be used and keep noise under a specific threshold. I would like to know if that is based on the JPEG output or the RAW output. The lack of difference between the D300 and D300s suggests that maybe there has not been a major breakthrough in sensor design, rather they have got better at tweaking the JPEG conversion to eliminate extraneous noise.

I certainly would not say no to a D3x if offered one! But the price is a bit out of reach. If you add the price of the lenses required to do it justice you are looking at the price of a new car. 

Any camera with that sensor is going to cost at least as much as the current D700. So I really don&#039;t see the point of a cheapie lens. Sure you can take great photos with an f/4 lens. But to get 24 quality MP you are going to need to choose with great care. 

That ISO 1600 says to me that you are going to want to get a lot of light in to get the best from it in most handheld situations. A lens you can only use on a tripod or with flash is not a kit lens in my view. Nor can I remember taking many landcapes at mid range focal lengths. Until I got the ultra-wide I seemed to always want to go wider or narrower.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that to compare like with like we really should be considering noise at a particular resolution. But the description of the DxO tests suggests that they do not take resolution into account. The D3x suggests that they are compensating for resolution which is different.</p>
<p>In theory the max ISO rating is determined by the highest ISO rating that can be used and keep noise under a specific threshold. I would like to know if that is based on the JPEG output or the RAW output. The lack of difference between the D300 and D300s suggests that maybe there has not been a major breakthrough in sensor design, rather they have got better at tweaking the JPEG conversion to eliminate extraneous noise.</p>
<p>I certainly would not say no to a D3x if offered one! But the price is a bit out of reach. If you add the price of the lenses required to do it justice you are looking at the price of a new car. </p>
<p>Any camera with that sensor is going to cost at least as much as the current D700. So I really don&#8217;t see the point of a cheapie lens. Sure you can take great photos with an f/4 lens. But to get 24 quality MP you are going to need to choose with great care. </p>
<p>That ISO 1600 says to me that you are going to want to get a lot of light in to get the best from it in most handheld situations. A lens you can only use on a tripod or with flash is not a kit lens in my view. Nor can I remember taking many landcapes at mid range focal lengths. Until I got the ultra-wide I seemed to always want to go wider or narrower.</p>
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		<title>By: le_eiji</title>
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		<dc:creator>le_eiji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 03:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>see the link below.
http://ganref.jp/magazines/index/1/0/356

the first 4 shots are taken with the 16-35mm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>see the link below.<br />
<a href="http://ganref.jp/magazines/index/1/0/356" rel="nofollow">http://ganref.jp/magazines/index/1/0/356</a></p>
<p>the first 4 shots are taken with the 16-35mm.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 02:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea, but you are probably close to running into diffraction at f11.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, but you are probably close to running into diffraction at f11.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 02:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am beginning to think that the sensor yields may be the answer to the consumer higher res camera. Everyone knows that chips of every sort have a bell curve of their capabilities. Some simply are not as good as the rest and a very few are truly exceptional. In the sensors, is it possible that product which passes the dead pixel standard, but do not pass the high ISO noise standard might be a candidate for the lower level camera? It would have pretty much the same output as the professional one until you got into the higher ISOs. That would make an unsalable product into one which could not only be sold, but would be happily received.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am beginning to think that the sensor yields may be the answer to the consumer higher res camera. Everyone knows that chips of every sort have a bell curve of their capabilities. Some simply are not as good as the rest and a very few are truly exceptional. In the sensors, is it possible that product which passes the dead pixel standard, but do not pass the high ISO noise standard might be a candidate for the lower level camera? It would have pretty much the same output as the professional one until you got into the higher ISOs. That would make an unsalable product into one which could not only be sold, but would be happily received.</p>
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		<title>By: ArthurH</title>
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		<dc:creator>ArthurH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 23:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:):)
And I completely agree, just hope they update the 24 (affordable one) and 85.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='http://nikonrumors.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> :)<br />
And I completely agree, just hope they update the 24 (affordable one) and 85.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Krapwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Krapwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 21:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t need it for my D40. The old one will work just as well - probably better with the amplifying qualities it gains from being on a superior camera.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t need it for my D40. The old one will work just as well &#8211; probably better with the amplifying qualities it gains from being on a superior camera.</p>
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		<title>By: nobody</title>
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		<dc:creator>nobody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 18:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks a lot for sharing your valuable knowledge!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks a lot for sharing your valuable knowledge!!!</p>
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		<title>By: NikorRyan</title>
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		<dc:creator>NikorRyan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 18:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FINALLY!!! The Nikon landscape lens to match the Canon competitor.</description>
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		<title>By: Leping</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leping</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 18:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most people still don&#039;t believe how great the D3x sensor is, and by &quot;pixel binding&quot; (down sample the 25MP images to 12MP in proper ways) the difference to D3/D700 is very very small (and of course you have the freedom of going higher resolution).  There is a reason DxO had to grant the highest score to D3x sensor and the curves there show how the D3x images compete with D3/D700&#039;s down sampled.  The D3s sensor is of a new generation and a notch above though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most people still don&#8217;t believe how great the D3x sensor is, and by &#8220;pixel binding&#8221; (down sample the 25MP images to 12MP in proper ways) the difference to D3/D700 is very very small (and of course you have the freedom of going higher resolution).  There is a reason DxO had to grant the highest score to D3x sensor and the curves there show how the D3x images compete with D3/D700&#8242;s down sampled.  The D3s sensor is of a new generation and a notch above though.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 17:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, seriously? People are getting way too attached to their zooms.  I bet you could walk around with a 50mm prime on the camera with an 85mm1/.8 in one jacket pocket and a 24mm/2.8 in the other and accomplish 99% of what you could do with some monster 24-120mm/2.8, $2000+ zoom. And actually, you could do some things with the primes you can&#039;t do with the zoom thanks to the faster apertures.

No wonder I see so many fat photographers, they refuse to use their legs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, seriously? People are getting way too attached to their zooms.  I bet you could walk around with a 50mm prime on the camera with an 85mm1/.8 in one jacket pocket and a 24mm/2.8 in the other and accomplish 99% of what you could do with some monster 24-120mm/2.8, $2000+ zoom. And actually, you could do some things with the primes you can&#8217;t do with the zoom thanks to the faster apertures.</p>
<p>No wonder I see so many fat photographers, they refuse to use their legs.</p>
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		<title>By: Alfamatrix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alfamatrix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 17:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Rock Kenwell joke was funny the first time..</description>
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