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		<title>By: NikoDoby</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2009/12/07/nikon-rumors-giveaway-4.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-43536</link>
		<dc:creator>NikoDoby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 09:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations to the winner and thanks to everyone who entered :)</description>
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		<title>By: BMXDad</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2009/12/07/nikon-rumors-giveaway-4.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-42915</link>
		<dc:creator>BMXDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 13:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your are correct, is this focal conversion between all the the different formats ever getting confusing

Pete</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your are correct, is this focal conversion between all the the different formats ever getting confusing</p>
<p>Pete</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2009/12/07/nikon-rumors-giveaway-4.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-42913</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 12:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol.</p>
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		<title>By: pc2rq</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2009/12/07/nikon-rumors-giveaway-4.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-42905</link>
		<dc:creator>pc2rq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 03:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I would love to have these!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I would love to have these!</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Elliott</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2009/12/07/nikon-rumors-giveaway-4.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-42901</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 02:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, they have it backwards from an FX user&#039;s prospective.  The 20mm on a Diana is equal to a 11mm on a FX camera.  The 20mm on a FX is exactly what an FX user would expect from a 20mm.

This &quot;equivalent&quot; thing is simply a way to say what a lens would do on a different format, relative to a format that you are familiar with.  If you normally use a FX camera, then the same lens will seem to be 1.5x longer on DX, but 0.55x (about 1/2) as long on the Diana.

But the Diana user would see the 20mm on a FX seem more like a 36mm on a Diana.

So this is all about what you are used to.  Most of us in Nikon-land think in terms of a field of view from an FX perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, they have it backwards from an FX user&#8217;s prospective.  The 20mm on a Diana is equal to a 11mm on a FX camera.  The 20mm on a FX is exactly what an FX user would expect from a 20mm.</p>
<p>This &#8220;equivalent&#8221; thing is simply a way to say what a lens would do on a different format, relative to a format that you are familiar with.  If you normally use a FX camera, then the same lens will seem to be 1.5x longer on DX, but 0.55x (about 1/2) as long on the Diana.</p>
<p>But the Diana user would see the 20mm on a FX seem more like a 36mm on a Diana.</p>
<p>So this is all about what you are used to.  Most of us in Nikon-land think in terms of a field of view from an FX perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: Bojo</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2009/12/07/nikon-rumors-giveaway-4.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-42900</link>
		<dc:creator>Bojo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 00:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lomography rocks! especially on a NIkon system. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lomography rocks! especially on a NIkon system. <img src='http://nikonrumors.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: NikoDoby</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2009/12/07/nikon-rumors-giveaway-4.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-42896</link>
		<dc:creator>NikoDoby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to hear your thoughts once you get to try them out magullo. Join our forum and we can share &quot;notes&quot; there :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to hear your thoughts once you get to try them out magullo. Join our forum and we can share &#8220;notes&#8221; there <img src='http://nikonrumors.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: NikoDoby</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2009/12/07/nikon-rumors-giveaway-4.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-42895</link>
		<dc:creator>NikoDoby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys it&#039;s a freakin plastic lens!!! Calm down with the &quot;misleading conversion&quot; theories already. MY GOODNESS. If I post a picture of a brick wall would you then debate the corner sharpness of each lenses on a MF, FX, and DX camera? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys it&#8217;s a freakin plastic lens!!! Calm down with the &#8220;misleading conversion&#8221; theories already. MY GOODNESS. If I post a picture of a brick wall would you then debate the corner sharpness of each lenses on a MF, FX, and DX camera? <img src='http://nikonrumors.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: yikesmoose</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2009/12/07/nikon-rumors-giveaway-4.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-42894</link>
		<dc:creator>yikesmoose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These lenses look like a lot of fun. In the right hands they can produce some creative results. nudge, nudge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These lenses look like a lot of fun. In the right hands they can produce some creative results. nudge, nudge.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Lilley</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2009/12/07/nikon-rumors-giveaway-4.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-42893</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Lilley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, no. Its one thing to &quot;convert&quot; DX to &quot;equivalent 35mm&quot; focal lengths (though still misleading). But this article converts to &quot;MF equivalents&quot; which makes no real sense. Sorry, optics doesn&#039;t work like that. Focal length is focal length.

To be clear - if you take a 100mm lens designed for medium format, a 100mm lens designed for 35mm full frame and a 100mm lens designed for DX, and put them on three identical DX cameras, they all have the same focal length and the same field of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, no. Its one thing to &#8220;convert&#8221; DX to &#8220;equivalent 35mm&#8221; focal lengths (though still misleading). But this article converts to &#8220;MF equivalents&#8221; which makes no real sense. Sorry, optics doesn&#8217;t work like that. Focal length is focal length.</p>
<p>To be clear &#8211; if you take a 100mm lens designed for medium format, a 100mm lens designed for 35mm full frame and a 100mm lens designed for DX, and put them on three identical DX cameras, they all have the same focal length and the same field of view.</p>
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		<title>By: inagitation</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2009/12/07/nikon-rumors-giveaway-4.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-42887</link>
		<dc:creator>inagitation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hehe... can I post another comment? this is such a cool whacky set, it would be fun to have. But good luck to all others too!
cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hehe&#8230; can I post another comment? this is such a cool whacky set, it would be fun to have. But good luck to all others too!<br />
cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: f/2.8</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2009/12/07/nikon-rumors-giveaway-4.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-42877</link>
		<dc:creator>f/2.8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jo, that&#039;s a low blow.  But that is funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jo, that&#8217;s a low blow.  But that is funny.</p>
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		<title>By: f/2.8</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2009/12/07/nikon-rumors-giveaway-4.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-42876</link>
		<dc:creator>f/2.8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like it.  My new kit:

A $5 Diana lens on the $5500 D3S</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like it.  My new kit:</p>
<p>A $5 Diana lens on the $5500 D3S</p>
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		<title>By: low</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2009/12/07/nikon-rumors-giveaway-4.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-42875</link>
		<dc:creator>low</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nikodoby &gt; it definitely has!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nikodoby &gt; it definitely has!</p>
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		<title>By: f/2.8</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2009/12/07/nikon-rumors-giveaway-4.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-42874</link>
		<dc:creator>f/2.8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You embarassed my cell phone camera.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You embarassed my cell phone camera.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2009/12/07/nikon-rumors-giveaway-4.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-42872</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More than anything I love the saturation and ghosting that plastic gives. I don&#039;t care for the softness, but I guess it helps to give that soft dreamy look I like so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More than anything I love the saturation and ghosting that plastic gives. I don&#8217;t care for the softness, but I guess it helps to give that soft dreamy look I like so much.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2009/12/07/nikon-rumors-giveaway-4.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-42868</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 16:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with NikoDoby.  The post specifically says &quot;equivalent.&quot;  I don&#039;t see how that is misleading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with NikoDoby.  The post specifically says &#8220;equivalent.&#8221;  I don&#8217;t see how that is misleading.</p>
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		<title>By: bman</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2009/12/07/nikon-rumors-giveaway-4.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-42867</link>
		<dc:creator>bman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 16:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it would be cool to shoot some video with these!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it would be cool to shoot some video with these!</p>
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		<title>By: Hubert</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2009/12/07/nikon-rumors-giveaway-4.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-42866</link>
		<dc:creator>Hubert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 15:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am in!! Thanks NR admin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am in!! Thanks NR admin</p>
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		<title>By: PacificEagle</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2009/12/07/nikon-rumors-giveaway-4.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-42863</link>
		<dc:creator>PacificEagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Admin/NIko, Great stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Admin/NIko, Great stuff.</p>
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