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	<title>Comments on: Bad news if you are in Canada and want the Nikon D3s</title>
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		<title>By: Ronan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 21:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RUMOR UPDATED: NIKON.CA SAYS ITS NO TRUE, ALL SUPPLIES WILL BE FINE.</description>
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		<title>By: Lee in Bethesda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee in Bethesda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 01:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: Ernst
Anytime Canada is promoted world-wide - that&#039;s for the greater good, from a Canadian perspective. Having the US next door is like sleeping with an elephant, to quote P.E.T., may he rest in peace. Two mannequins talk their way into a White House dinner and that&#039;s &quot;Headline News at 11&quot;. Canada hosting the Winter Olympics? Hold the back pages! (that&#039;s a joke BTW if you live in Israel ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: Ernst<br />
Anytime Canada is promoted world-wide &#8211; that&#8217;s for the greater good, from a Canadian perspective. Having the US next door is like sleeping with an elephant, to quote P.E.T., may he rest in peace. Two mannequins talk their way into a White House dinner and that&#8217;s &#8220;Headline News at 11&#8243;. Canada hosting the Winter Olympics? Hold the back pages! (that&#8217;s a joke BTW if you live in Israel <img src='http://nikonrumors.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 00:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that&#039;s because nikon was afraid that a non photographer will capture a not so stunning shots and high noise and will affect the nikon marketing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that&#8217;s because nikon was afraid that a non photographer will capture a not so stunning shots and high noise and will affect the nikon marketing.</p>
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		<title>By: low</title>
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		<dc:creator>low</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 23:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>must be all these canon users switching over and buying D3S by the hundreds!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>must be all these canon users switching over and buying D3S by the hundreds!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 22:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is nothing short of bizarre. What are they hoping to achieve by this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is nothing short of bizarre. What are they hoping to achieve by this?</p>
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		<title>By: Zulu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zulu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 22:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, you&#039;re on a website for people who are looking for the tiniest Nikon rumor to brighten their day.  We&#039;re pretty much Nikon / camera addicts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, you&#8217;re on a website for people who are looking for the tiniest Nikon rumor to brighten their day.  We&#8217;re pretty much Nikon / camera addicts.</p>
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		<title>By: getanalogue</title>
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		<dc:creator>getanalogue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 22:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey guys, this is the peak of all arrogant marketing I ever experienced. Your comments make me think that you are Nikon / camera ADDICTS. I really laugh about KenR but when I&#039;m reading this thread I have to admit him. 
I&#039;ll continue to use my Bentley F 4 with Zeiss lenses, my Contac 645 and for the rest; all cheap and quickly produced stuff, my D 90.
I think Nikon is the most arrogant brand I&#039;ve ever seen and I&#039;m 35 years in the advertisement business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey guys, this is the peak of all arrogant marketing I ever experienced. Your comments make me think that you are Nikon / camera ADDICTS. I really laugh about KenR but when I&#8217;m reading this thread I have to admit him.<br />
I&#8217;ll continue to use my Bentley F 4 with Zeiss lenses, my Contac 645 and for the rest; all cheap and quickly produced stuff, my D 90.<br />
I think Nikon is the most arrogant brand I&#8217;ve ever seen and I&#8217;m 35 years in the advertisement business.</p>
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		<title>By: johnny</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 21:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: [NR] admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>[NR] admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 21:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no, the info I received was about the 200-400 f/4 lens</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no, the info I received was about the 200-400 f/4 lens</p>
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		<title>By: Zulu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zulu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 20:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m actually in Sweden right now and won&#039;t be in Canada until just before Christmas, so I don&#039;t really have a good idea what the situation is &quot;on the ground&quot; so to speak in Ontario right now.  The only exchanges I have had is via email.

Actually, my girlfriend works for an NGO in Afghanistan and I will be there early next year doing some photography.  I gave up on Canon coming up with a decent camera that fits my purpose when it dropped the APS-H-bomb on the 1DMkIV, so I&#039;m through with their indulgences and I&#039;m converting - I need a D3s before I head back after the holidays.  I could maybe come upon one in Sweden, but not for $2500 more (retail here).  No thanks!

Thanks for the info - I may hang in with my pre-order and wait to see how things pan out when I arrive.

Z</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m actually in Sweden right now and won&#8217;t be in Canada until just before Christmas, so I don&#8217;t really have a good idea what the situation is &#8220;on the ground&#8221; so to speak in Ontario right now.  The only exchanges I have had is via email.</p>
<p>Actually, my girlfriend works for an NGO in Afghanistan and I will be there early next year doing some photography.  I gave up on Canon coming up with a decent camera that fits my purpose when it dropped the APS-H-bomb on the 1DMkIV, so I&#8217;m through with their indulgences and I&#8217;m converting &#8211; I need a D3s before I head back after the holidays.  I could maybe come upon one in Sweden, but not for $2500 more (retail here).  No thanks!</p>
<p>Thanks for the info &#8211; I may hang in with my pre-order and wait to see how things pan out when I arrive.</p>
<p>Z</p>
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		<title>By: nobody</title>
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		<dc:creator>nobody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 20:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Update: I was told that shortages may be expected in Canada also in the “super zoom” category.&quot;

Admin, would you care to elaborate a bit on that part? Was that the unofficial 100-500mm introduction?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Update: I was told that shortages may be expected in Canada also in the “super zoom” category.&#8221;</p>
<p>Admin, would you care to elaborate a bit on that part? Was that the unofficial 100-500mm introduction?</p>
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		<title>By: PacificEagle</title>
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		<dc:creator>PacificEagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 20:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NR is right, I have seen the email as well, and his information is bang on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NR is right, I have seen the email as well, and his information is bang on.</p>
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		<title>By: PacificEagle</title>
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		<dc:creator>PacificEagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 20:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zulu...well my supplier is in Ontario as well, and will be getting a few more D3s Bodies, which are not spoken for yet, this I know for sure. I&#039;m not sure why you can&#039;t find one, but i do know there are a couple that will be available. I&#039;ll double check with him and see if he has one free and let you know.
Secondly, you being Candain or not, even if the comment was off the cuff, you should have said something like just kidding as well. I wasn&#039;t the only one offended. Nuff Said!
Afghanistan???? Are you Military??? I&#039;m retired CAF. Just wondered. PE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zulu&#8230;well my supplier is in Ontario as well, and will be getting a few more D3s Bodies, which are not spoken for yet, this I know for sure. I&#8217;m not sure why you can&#8217;t find one, but i do know there are a couple that will be available. I&#8217;ll double check with him and see if he has one free and let you know.<br />
Secondly, you being Candain or not, even if the comment was off the cuff, you should have said something like just kidding as well. I wasn&#8217;t the only one offended. Nuff Said!<br />
Afghanistan???? Are you Military??? I&#8217;m retired CAF. Just wondered. PE.</p>
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		<title>By: Zulu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zulu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 20:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just received an answer from a large photo store in Toronto...&quot;This is to confirm that Nikon is controlling the amount of D3s&#039; being released.  They have said that we should be able to fill all of our pre-orders by the end of the year however they also reserve the right to change quantities shipped without notice.&quot;

Meh.  Sounds a bit iffy to me - I think the US gets my loonie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just received an answer from a large photo store in Toronto&#8230;&#8221;This is to confirm that Nikon is controlling the amount of D3s&#8217; being released.  They have said that we should be able to fill all of our pre-orders by the end of the year however they also reserve the right to change quantities shipped without notice.&#8221;</p>
<p>Meh.  Sounds a bit iffy to me &#8211; I think the US gets my loonie.</p>
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		<title>By: Ernst</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ernst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 20:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re talking about a D3s, not a life-saving vaccine in short supply.  This is not a &quot;greater good&quot; situation - though kudos to Nikon if they&#039;re able to spin it that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re talking about a D3s, not a life-saving vaccine in short supply.  This is not a &#8220;greater good&#8221; situation &#8211; though kudos to Nikon if they&#8217;re able to spin it that way.</p>
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		<title>By: [NR] admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>[NR] admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 20:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 6 months time frame was in the message sent from Nikon Canada to dealers. For various reasons I cannot post the actual email, but I saw it with my own eyes. I did not come up with the 6 months estimate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 6 months time frame was in the message sent from Nikon Canada to dealers. For various reasons I cannot post the actual email, but I saw it with my own eyes. I did not come up with the 6 months estimate.</p>
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		<title>By: PHB</title>
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		<dc:creator>PHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 19:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, that line is very curious. Makes me think that maybe the announcement is the 100-500 after all and that they have completed a pre-production run specifically for the Olympics. 

There is no way that I can imaging there being a desperate shortage of 80-400 zooms being a worry to pro sports photographers, those that wanted it will have bought it years ago. And as we all know, the big problem in the lens is that the autofocus is too slow.

Same goes for the 200-400 zoom which has always been a special order item. Serious pros with Olympic credentials would have one already or have planned well in advance.

I take back the D700s statement, getting the 100-500 out for the Olympics would be well worth announcing on Xmas day if necessary.

And I really would not mind at all if the initial run was only available to credentialed press photographers. Their pictures will be seen by far more people than mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, that line is very curious. Makes me think that maybe the announcement is the 100-500 after all and that they have completed a pre-production run specifically for the Olympics. </p>
<p>There is no way that I can imaging there being a desperate shortage of 80-400 zooms being a worry to pro sports photographers, those that wanted it will have bought it years ago. And as we all know, the big problem in the lens is that the autofocus is too slow.</p>
<p>Same goes for the 200-400 zoom which has always been a special order item. Serious pros with Olympic credentials would have one already or have planned well in advance.</p>
<p>I take back the D700s statement, getting the 100-500 out for the Olympics would be well worth announcing on Xmas day if necessary.</p>
<p>And I really would not mind at all if the initial run was only available to credentialed press photographers. Their pictures will be seen by far more people than mine.</p>
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		<title>By: PHB</title>
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		<dc:creator>PHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 19:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually you report that they will be in tight supply for 6 months. In other words, that is the earliest you can expect to see a body in stock, or close to it in a store.

That does not mean that if you order one today you can expect to have to wait six months for delivery.

That is pretty standard for flagship bodies. Given that the Olympics is an international event, it is none too likely that it will be any different in the US.

Since the D700 is currently made in the Sendai plant that makes the D3s, it means supplies of the D700 are also likely to be short and it is unlikely that there will be a D700s coming out of the Sendai plant.

My guess is that this would mean that the D700s will be made in the Thailand plant after the D300s run is complete.

Any chance that this is connected to this week&#039;s announcement? If they have the sensors but lack the manufacturing capacity to meet demand, how about cutting short the D300s run and turning out a batch of D700s in parallel? The Thailand plant must be capable of making both and the margins on the D700s are going to be higher. That would allow them to maximize the number of Pro bodies available for the Olympics but at the possible cost of running out of the D3s sensor earlier than planned.

One thing is certain: Nikon are not going to worry about loosing D3s sales to the D700s as people keep suggesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually you report that they will be in tight supply for 6 months. In other words, that is the earliest you can expect to see a body in stock, or close to it in a store.</p>
<p>That does not mean that if you order one today you can expect to have to wait six months for delivery.</p>
<p>That is pretty standard for flagship bodies. Given that the Olympics is an international event, it is none too likely that it will be any different in the US.</p>
<p>Since the D700 is currently made in the Sendai plant that makes the D3s, it means supplies of the D700 are also likely to be short and it is unlikely that there will be a D700s coming out of the Sendai plant.</p>
<p>My guess is that this would mean that the D700s will be made in the Thailand plant after the D300s run is complete.</p>
<p>Any chance that this is connected to this week&#8217;s announcement? If they have the sensors but lack the manufacturing capacity to meet demand, how about cutting short the D300s run and turning out a batch of D700s in parallel? The Thailand plant must be capable of making both and the margins on the D700s are going to be higher. That would allow them to maximize the number of Pro bodies available for the Olympics but at the possible cost of running out of the D3s sensor earlier than planned.</p>
<p>One thing is certain: Nikon are not going to worry about loosing D3s sales to the D700s as people keep suggesting.</p>
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		<title>By: TOM</title>
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		<dc:creator>TOM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 19:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you!! Personally!! from my POV. I&#039;m spoiled Mac user, and I love Apple service and entire shopping experience. Overall I&#039;m very satisfied.

I wish I could say this about Nikon too. I hate their resellers. Most of them a moro-s that do not deserve to have to be Nikon Premium reseller.

I strongly believe Nikon should open up. What is the big deal to create &quot;best&quot; cameras (not the D300s) if they do not know how to sell them ;( pretty sad!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you!! Personally!! from my POV. I&#8217;m spoiled Mac user, and I love Apple service and entire shopping experience. Overall I&#8217;m very satisfied.</p>
<p>I wish I could say this about Nikon too. I hate their resellers. Most of them a moro-s that do not deserve to have to be Nikon Premium reseller.</p>
<p>I strongly believe Nikon should open up. What is the big deal to create &#8220;best&#8221; cameras (not the D300s) if they do not know how to sell them ;( pretty sad!!!</p>
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		<title>By: another anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>another anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 18:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must say i don&#039;t like the situation, but also i must say i&#039;m happy i chose to invest in nikon stuff as i came to experience this is the quality i need and i&#039;m definitely happy now that i made the right decision.. it&#039;s about lot of money and i&#039;m satisfied i chose nikon. Maybe there su_ks some situations when some pros are heavily prefered by nikon, but using canon i will be just out of the quality i want and that su_ks to me. I can&#039;t have new camera each year, I need to invest into real value for some time and the lens too. Absolutely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must say i don&#8217;t like the situation, but also i must say i&#8217;m happy i chose to invest in nikon stuff as i came to experience this is the quality i need and i&#8217;m definitely happy now that i made the right decision.. it&#8217;s about lot of money and i&#8217;m satisfied i chose nikon. Maybe there su_ks some situations when some pros are heavily prefered by nikon, but using canon i will be just out of the quality i want and that su_ks to me. I can&#8217;t have new camera each year, I need to invest into real value for some time and the lens too. Absolutely.</p>
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