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		<title>By: Blackbeard Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blackbeard Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cropping implies failure on the part of the photographer&#039;s compositional skills.

People are better off investing in better lenses and learning how to frame photos than relying on &quot;cropping&quot; in post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cropping implies failure on the part of the photographer&#8217;s compositional skills.</p>
<p>People are better off investing in better lenses and learning how to frame photos than relying on &#8220;cropping&#8221; in post.</p>
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		<title>By: CM</title>
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		<dc:creator>CM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So? 90% of people don&#039;t need more than ISO 1600 (I mean, come on... how many photos of pitch-black bat caves *really* get printed at 20&quot;x30&quot;?), but it doesn&#039;t stop camera manufacturers from improving that side of the equation either. Most people don&#039;t need 24MP, but some will need it often, and others may need it occasionally... and the competition is selling double-resolution cameras to the D700 at a similar price point (A850, A900, 5DII).

You can have a debate about how valuable resolution is as a feature, but you can&#039;t debate that it has some value (all you can do is debate the priority to *your* needs).

Oh, and people need to stop saying Nikon will never release a camera that competes with it&#039;s own flagship - THEY HAVE DONE THIS REPEATEDLY, A YEAR AFTER THEY RELEASE A FLAGSHIP CAMERA, LIKE CLOCKWORK. I&#039;m glad you&#039;re enjoying your $8K camera, but for Pete&#039;s sake get informed before you start making those kinds of arguments, and take off the bias glasses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So? 90% of people don&#8217;t need more than ISO 1600 (I mean, come on&#8230; how many photos of pitch-black bat caves *really* get printed at 20&#8243;x30&#8243;?), but it doesn&#8217;t stop camera manufacturers from improving that side of the equation either. Most people don&#8217;t need 24MP, but some will need it often, and others may need it occasionally&#8230; and the competition is selling double-resolution cameras to the D700 at a similar price point (A850, A900, 5DII).</p>
<p>You can have a debate about how valuable resolution is as a feature, but you can&#8217;t debate that it has some value (all you can do is debate the priority to *your* needs).</p>
<p>Oh, and people need to stop saying Nikon will never release a camera that competes with it&#8217;s own flagship &#8211; THEY HAVE DONE THIS REPEATEDLY, A YEAR AFTER THEY RELEASE A FLAGSHIP CAMERA, LIKE CLOCKWORK. I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;re enjoying your $8K camera, but for Pete&#8217;s sake get informed before you start making those kinds of arguments, and take off the bias glasses.</p>
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		<title>By: zen-tao</title>
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		<dc:creator>zen-tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I&#039;d rather read the optimistic adds from Michael with her beautiful icon than the dog&#039;s face Soap ones.  You guys have an indigestion of data. You talk like a cameras salesman who only cut-and-paste the information he reads in the brochures. 

Nikon has lenses who are able to show more details than the sensors now-a-days deliver.  Have a look to a single picture taken with a D3x. Don´t try to mix up us. People are not as idiot as you expect. Nikon Company doesn&#039;t have any excuse for not issuing a new and cheap camera model. 
Other day I made a picture with my son&#039;s 12mpx Fujifilm camera and it had more details than the one taken with my D200. Other issue is the quality, processor etc, etc. But with more Mpx a single camera delivers more detail than any other professional.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I&#8217;d rather read the optimistic adds from Michael with her beautiful icon than the dog&#8217;s face Soap ones.  You guys have an indigestion of data. You talk like a cameras salesman who only cut-and-paste the information he reads in the brochures. </p>
<p>Nikon has lenses who are able to show more details than the sensors now-a-days deliver.  Have a look to a single picture taken with a D3x. Don´t try to mix up us. People are not as idiot as you expect. Nikon Company doesn&#8217;t have any excuse for not issuing a new and cheap camera model.<br />
Other day I made a picture with my son&#8217;s 12mpx Fujifilm camera and it had more details than the one taken with my D200. Other issue is the quality, processor etc, etc. But with more Mpx a single camera delivers more detail than any other professional.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>soap,

I agree with your basic math.

Mark</description>
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<p>I agree with your basic math.</p>
<p>Mark</p>
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		<title>By: Blackbeard Ben</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2009/11/05/nikon-d700-replacement-timeframe.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-40012</link>
		<dc:creator>Blackbeard Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;re wondering how I made my guess as to when the D4 will come out - It&#039;s because it&#039;s been four years from one generation pro body to the next since the D1 started it all.

Within each generation there has been a bit more variation, as Nikon has fixed any nagging deficiencies in each camera by coming out with a revised model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re wondering how I made my guess as to when the D4 will come out &#8211; It&#8217;s because it&#8217;s been four years from one generation pro body to the next since the D1 started it all.</p>
<p>Within each generation there has been a bit more variation, as Nikon has fixed any nagging deficiencies in each camera by coming out with a revised model.</p>
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		<title>By: Blackbeard Ben</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2009/11/05/nikon-d700-replacement-timeframe.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-40011</link>
		<dc:creator>Blackbeard Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Nikon went straight to the D2H before it had the D2X.  It also went straight to the D1 without a D1X initially, and straight to the D3 without a D3X initially.  It&#039;s the way Nikon has decided to operate - release its high speed, low resolution photojournalist camera a year or so before it comes out with a high resolution version of the same body.

There is and will be no D3H, because the D3 already is the D3H.  Based on Nikon&#039;s historic pro digital body series release timeline (you can see this on Wikipedia), a D4 is due out around the third quarter of 2011 - and there certainly won&#039;t be a D3H replacement for the D3s somewhere in that two year period.

I&#039;m not the only one to come to this conclusion.  Check out Thom Hogan&#039;s prediction - it&#039;s exactly the same concerning the D4.  He even went so far as to predict the D3s when this article came out this summer, although he underestimated the amount of changes it underwent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Nikon went straight to the D2H before it had the D2X.  It also went straight to the D1 without a D1X initially, and straight to the D3 without a D3X initially.  It&#8217;s the way Nikon has decided to operate &#8211; release its high speed, low resolution photojournalist camera a year or so before it comes out with a high resolution version of the same body.</p>
<p>There is and will be no D3H, because the D3 already is the D3H.  Based on Nikon&#8217;s historic pro digital body series release timeline (you can see this on Wikipedia), a D4 is due out around the third quarter of 2011 &#8211; and there certainly won&#8217;t be a D3H replacement for the D3s somewhere in that two year period.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not the only one to come to this conclusion.  Check out Thom Hogan&#8217;s prediction &#8211; it&#8217;s exactly the same concerning the D4.  He even went so far as to predict the D3s when this article came out this summer, although he underestimated the amount of changes it underwent.</p>
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		<title>By: Stark-Arts.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stark-Arts.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>because nikon has put themselves in a corner with 4 12mp cameras and one 24 that didn&#039;t sell at all. If they were to come out with a d700x lets say what would it cost? in order to maintain reason in nikons pricing structure it would have to be somewhere between 4 and 5 grand unless the d3x drops a ton in price. Otherwise they would have to come with a D3xII in order to get anyone to shell out the cash...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>because nikon has put themselves in a corner with 4 12mp cameras and one 24 that didn&#8217;t sell at all. If they were to come out with a d700x lets say what would it cost? in order to maintain reason in nikons pricing structure it would have to be somewhere between 4 and 5 grand unless the d3x drops a ton in price. Otherwise they would have to come with a D3xII in order to get anyone to shell out the cash&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Partly.  Think of film as having a theoretical resolution on the micro level (limited by average photosensitive molecule size) and a &quot;real-world&quot; resolution on the macro scale (the above formentioned ~35 MP) as a result of all the real-world physical and chemical issues _in the film itself_ which decrease resolution potential.  The same thing is, and will be, true of digital sensors.  Just because your sensor has 5000 rows of pixels (post interpolation) (the &quot;resolution&quot;) doesn&#039;t mean it will be able to distinguish (resolve) 2500 lines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Partly.  Think of film as having a theoretical resolution on the micro level (limited by average photosensitive molecule size) and a &#8220;real-world&#8221; resolution on the macro scale (the above formentioned ~35 MP) as a result of all the real-world physical and chemical issues _in the film itself_ which decrease resolution potential.  The same thing is, and will be, true of digital sensors.  Just because your sensor has 5000 rows of pixels (post interpolation) (the &#8220;resolution&#8221;) doesn&#8217;t mean it will be able to distinguish (resolve) 2500 lines.</p>
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		<title>By: T140Rider</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2009/11/05/nikon-d700-replacement-timeframe.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-39976</link>
		<dc:creator>T140Rider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is not only bigger prints but HEAVIER CROPPING in Photoshop that leave an image capable of being printed to A3 size.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not only bigger prints but HEAVIER CROPPING in Photoshop that leave an image capable of being printed to A3 size.</p>
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		<title>By: BillyBobJohnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>BillyBobJohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael - is that what you look like?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael &#8211; is that what you look like?</p>
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		<title>By: Davo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When u say a resolution of 34.5 mpx and not pixel count, are u adlluding to how bayer sensors only record one colour per photosite then interpolates.
If so, then for bayer sensors, what is this theoretical pixel count?
Anyways I have to say I totally agree that pixel count has gone crazy. And for that matter, iso is starting to go silly too but at least I can see how really clean 6400 would be great. But at over 100k iso, can I really even see what I&#039;m photographing?
I hope they do a large production batch of the D3s sensor and also stick it in a d700s (highly likely) then a cut down feature but well built body. So u get something small and rugged. I think there&#039;s a market for just that, without all the bling but top notch image quality. It can even be mf, or if marketing don&#039;t like that, just put the d90 af module in there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When u say a resolution of 34.5 mpx and not pixel count, are u adlluding to how bayer sensors only record one colour per photosite then interpolates.<br />
If so, then for bayer sensors, what is this theoretical pixel count?<br />
Anyways I have to say I totally agree that pixel count has gone crazy. And for that matter, iso is starting to go silly too but at least I can see how really clean 6400 would be great. But at over 100k iso, can I really even see what I&#8217;m photographing?<br />
I hope they do a large production batch of the D3s sensor and also stick it in a d700s (highly likely) then a cut down feature but well built body. So u get something small and rugged. I think there&#8217;s a market for just that, without all the bling but top notch image quality. It can even be mf, or if marketing don&#8217;t like that, just put the d90 af module in there.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol?  seriously?  Are you guys 12?  
I&#039;ve been waiting for a small body with good high ISO capabilities and video ever since the D90 was introduced.  The D3s was the first step in the right direction, but, like I said above, I&#039;m waiting for a smaller body.  LOL!!!!111</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol?  seriously?  Are you guys 12?<br />
I&#8217;ve been waiting for a small body with good high ISO capabilities and video ever since the D90 was introduced.  The D3s was the first step in the right direction, but, like I said above, I&#8217;m waiting for a smaller body.  LOL!!!!111</p>
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		<title>By: soap</title>
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		<dc:creator>soap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe you will find a consensus that 16x20&quot; is the largest size one can reasonably expect to enlarge a 35mm negative to before you reach diminishing returns.  (no more signal to be recovered)

A 16x20&quot; print, obviously, is in the 4:5 aspect ratio, and represents an uncropped negative of 16x24&quot;.

I also think you will find a consensus that _prints_ have an information density of right around 200-300 dpi.

16x24&quot; x 300 dpi therefore can be considered consensus &quot;informational density&quot; of the reasonably best 35mm film exposed, developed, and printed with the best techniques (and lenses).  (Not at all saying this is anywhere close to the _average_ informational density, just the _max_)

Therefore one can reasonably say that 35mm film has its _theoretical_ resolutional equal in digital when the resolution of sensors (not the pixel count, the resolution) reaches 4800*7200=34.5 megapixel.

As I hope I clearly qualified - 9x% of films, 9x% of lenses, 9x% of techniques can&#039;t reach this limit - I just want to illustrate why, though, there are people (_besides_ the unwashed idiots) who are calling for more MP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe you will find a consensus that 16&#215;20&#8243; is the largest size one can reasonably expect to enlarge a 35mm negative to before you reach diminishing returns.  (no more signal to be recovered)</p>
<p>A 16&#215;20&#8243; print, obviously, is in the 4:5 aspect ratio, and represents an uncropped negative of 16&#215;24&#8243;.</p>
<p>I also think you will find a consensus that _prints_ have an information density of right around 200-300 dpi.</p>
<p>16&#215;24&#8243; x 300 dpi therefore can be considered consensus &#8220;informational density&#8221; of the reasonably best 35mm film exposed, developed, and printed with the best techniques (and lenses).  (Not at all saying this is anywhere close to the _average_ informational density, just the _max_)</p>
<p>Therefore one can reasonably say that 35mm film has its _theoretical_ resolutional equal in digital when the resolution of sensors (not the pixel count, the resolution) reaches 4800*7200=34.5 megapixel.</p>
<p>As I hope I clearly qualified &#8211; 9x% of films, 9x% of lenses, 9x% of techniques can&#8217;t reach this limit &#8211; I just want to illustrate why, though, there are people (_besides_ the unwashed idiots) who are calling for more MP.</p>
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		<title>By: PHB</title>
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		<dc:creator>PHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That might have been a good plan, but I don&#039;t think it is very likely to happen.

Back when we were at 6MP then every extra pixel made a difference. Most people take 6x4 photos most of the time, 6MP is fine. But most people would like to get an 8x6, or even a 10x8. At that time a 30% increase in pixels made a big difference.

I recently took a family photo with my D300, made some 20&quot; prints from it without any sign of resolution issues. I don&#039;t think a 30% increase in pixels is going to make anyone switch, any more than a third of an ISO stop would make people upgrade.

I think that it is clear that Nikon has decided that from now on it will upgrade resolution by doubling the previous maximum. A 16MP camera might make sense now, but it would not have a very long shelf life. It is pretty clear that we will see an upgrade to the D3x with the higher ISO resolution technology recently deployed on the D300s the next time they are making the D3x sensor. I would put that announcement no earlier than 3 months and no later than 6. And I would expect a D700 equivalent about 6-9 months on from then. 

So an 18MP D700x would have a lifespan of only 9-15 months. 

If Nikon feel pressure from Canon, the obvious response is to drop the price of the D700. It is currently $2328 at Amazon. The D300s is $1600. Thats almost $750 more for a camera that should not cost a lot more to build at this point. The sensor yield should be up to 90%.

The D3x is a different issue, I think that they were having yield issues when that came out and were forced to price accordingly. If your base yield is 30% and you make your sensor twice as big, your yield will be less than 9%. So your good chips per wafer will cost at least six times as much, So I can actually believe Sony were charging $2000 a sensor or more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That might have been a good plan, but I don&#8217;t think it is very likely to happen.</p>
<p>Back when we were at 6MP then every extra pixel made a difference. Most people take 6&#215;4 photos most of the time, 6MP is fine. But most people would like to get an 8&#215;6, or even a 10&#215;8. At that time a 30% increase in pixels made a big difference.</p>
<p>I recently took a family photo with my D300, made some 20&#8243; prints from it without any sign of resolution issues. I don&#8217;t think a 30% increase in pixels is going to make anyone switch, any more than a third of an ISO stop would make people upgrade.</p>
<p>I think that it is clear that Nikon has decided that from now on it will upgrade resolution by doubling the previous maximum. A 16MP camera might make sense now, but it would not have a very long shelf life. It is pretty clear that we will see an upgrade to the D3x with the higher ISO resolution technology recently deployed on the D300s the next time they are making the D3x sensor. I would put that announcement no earlier than 3 months and no later than 6. And I would expect a D700 equivalent about 6-9 months on from then. </p>
<p>So an 18MP D700x would have a lifespan of only 9-15 months. </p>
<p>If Nikon feel pressure from Canon, the obvious response is to drop the price of the D700. It is currently $2328 at Amazon. The D300s is $1600. Thats almost $750 more for a camera that should not cost a lot more to build at this point. The sensor yield should be up to 90%.</p>
<p>The D3x is a different issue, I think that they were having yield issues when that came out and were forced to price accordingly. If your base yield is 30% and you make your sensor twice as big, your yield will be less than 9%. So your good chips per wafer will cost at least six times as much, So I can actually believe Sony were charging $2000 a sensor or more.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL it would be stupid to release it in 6-8 months which is when they expect a D4 to be released in the same year.  That comment about served to be a true statement although the poster was obviously being sarcastic.

He is right though, almost nobody really needs that 24.5 megapixels.  I rarely use it for my own work so why does a person who isn&#039;t a pro need a 24.5 megapixel camera.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL it would be stupid to release it in 6-8 months which is when they expect a D4 to be released in the same year.  That comment about served to be a true statement although the poster was obviously being sarcastic.</p>
<p>He is right though, almost nobody really needs that 24.5 megapixels.  I rarely use it for my own work so why does a person who isn&#8217;t a pro need a 24.5 megapixel camera.</p>
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		<title>By: grumps</title>
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		<dc:creator>grumps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally, someone I can agree with!  :-)
About the timeframe for the D800, not until the D4 is released, and then it&#039;s relative to when the D700 was released after the D3 sound like the most reasonable assumption, since most are guessing. 

Personally, getting is right from 18-25MP is what I can hope, at least I&#039;ll feel like it&#039;s finally caught up a little with film :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally, someone I can agree with!  <img src='http://nikonrumors.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
About the timeframe for the D800, not until the D4 is released, and then it&#8217;s relative to when the D700 was released after the D3 sound like the most reasonable assumption, since most are guessing. </p>
<p>Personally, getting is right from 18-25MP is what I can hope, at least I&#8217;ll feel like it&#8217;s finally caught up a little with film :p</p>
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		<title>By: NikoDoby</title>
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		<dc:creator>NikoDoby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot to also mention that the whole &quot;S&quot; designation is used by other manufacturers, not just Nikon. Look at the recent Sigma DP1(S) as an example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to also mention that the whole &#8220;S&#8221; designation is used by other manufacturers, not just Nikon. Look at the recent Sigma DP1(S) as an example.</p>
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		<title>By: NikoDoby</title>
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		<dc:creator>NikoDoby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know blackbeard ben. I&#039;m well aware of Nikon&#039;s model history. I was just saying that we really can&#039;t assume that every Nikon model will have an &quot;S&quot; or &quot;X&quot; added to it.

There never was a Nikon D2 like there was a D1 and D3.
Nikon just went from the  D1X to a D2H before  a D2X. I think we could see a D3H before anything else in the near future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know blackbeard ben. I&#8217;m well aware of Nikon&#8217;s model history. I was just saying that we really can&#8217;t assume that every Nikon model will have an &#8220;S&#8221; or &#8220;X&#8221; added to it.</p>
<p>There never was a Nikon D2 like there was a D1 and D3.<br />
Nikon just went from the  D1X to a D2H before  a D2X. I think we could see a D3H before anything else in the near future.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He said: 
wait 6 to 8 months after the D3S,  for the D700 replacement who call it &quot;the baby D3s&quot; ...so the D700xs or D800</description>
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wait 6 to 8 months after the D3S,  for the D700 replacement who call it &#8220;the baby D3s&#8221; &#8230;so the D700xs or D800</p>
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		<title>By: zzddrr</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you already have 9 models. D2x, D2xs, D3, D3s, D700, D300, D300s, D90, and D5000. All of them at fuckin&#039; 12MP

Now what else do you want? Hmmm? But there is only one camera Nikon makes that is more then 12MP and that one is 8k. So go back and kiss Nikon&#039;s butt for more 12MP crap. 

Think about this, since Sep 2004 Nikon released the first 12MP DSLR and since then it released only 1 that was more than 12MP. Dude, we are talking about a 5 years product cycle. It&#039;s been 5 years they are milking the same 12MP and in the meantime if others ask for something else, smart people like yourself determine that I do not need more than 12MP. This arrogance is my problem with you and with Nikon.

I accept that you your are satisfied with the 12MP. I am happy for you, but we are different and I have different needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you already have 9 models. D2x, D2xs, D3, D3s, D700, D300, D300s, D90, and D5000. All of them at fuckin&#8217; 12MP</p>
<p>Now what else do you want? Hmmm? But there is only one camera Nikon makes that is more then 12MP and that one is 8k. So go back and kiss Nikon&#8217;s butt for more 12MP crap. </p>
<p>Think about this, since Sep 2004 Nikon released the first 12MP DSLR and since then it released only 1 that was more than 12MP. Dude, we are talking about a 5 years product cycle. It&#8217;s been 5 years they are milking the same 12MP and in the meantime if others ask for something else, smart people like yourself determine that I do not need more than 12MP. This arrogance is my problem with you and with Nikon.</p>
<p>I accept that you your are satisfied with the 12MP. I am happy for you, but we are different and I have different needs.</p>
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