Comments on: Nikon D3s and 85mm f/3.5 DX lens available for pre-order http://nikonrumors.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-and-85mm-f3-5-dx-lens-available-for-pre-order.aspx/ where there’s smoke there’s fire Mon, 13 Feb 2012 02:31:06 +0000 hourly 1 By: Jabari http://nikonrumors.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-and-85mm-f3-5-dx-lens-available-for-pre-order.aspx/comment-page-2/#comment-39189 Jabari Fri, 23 Oct 2009 05:39:17 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/?p=7812#comment-39189 Did anyone else find it odd that they launched a DX lens along side a FX camera??? Did anyone else find it odd that they launched a DX lens along side a FX camera???

]]> By: Ganry72 http://nikonrumors.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-and-85mm-f3-5-dx-lens-available-for-pre-order.aspx/comment-page-2/#comment-39152 Ganry72 Thu, 22 Oct 2009 21:13:58 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/?p=7812#comment-39152 Could the country be so lucky? , Could the country be so lucky? ,

]]> By: [NR] admin http://nikonrumors.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-and-85mm-f3-5-dx-lens-available-for-pre-order.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-38651 [NR] admin Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:55:59 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/?p=7812#comment-38651 late November, 2009 late November, 2009

]]> By: MoonDoggie http://nikonrumors.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-and-85mm-f3-5-dx-lens-available-for-pre-order.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-38609 MoonDoggie Tue, 20 Oct 2009 03:38:35 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/?p=7812#comment-38609 So when is the D3s going to be available? What are the rumors? So when is the D3s going to be available? What are the rumors?

]]> By: zen-tao http://nikonrumors.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-and-85mm-f3-5-dx-lens-available-for-pre-order.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-38571 zen-tao Mon, 19 Oct 2009 11:17:07 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/?p=7812#comment-38571 I made a mistake, I wanted to say: "D3s Is an issue that Nikon Company has been forced to launch.." I made a mistake, I wanted to say: “D3s Is an issue that Nikon Company has been forced to launch..”

]]> By: zen-tao http://nikonrumors.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-and-85mm-f3-5-dx-lens-available-for-pre-order.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-38569 zen-tao Mon, 19 Oct 2009 07:58:23 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/?p=7812#comment-38569 Good quality, professional standards , accurate color and gray reproduction, reliability , resolution, low noise, etc etc All the things the photographers demand. already are in the D3x . Nikon is not going to lower nor his standards or prices. The new D3x is an issue that the were forced to issue reluctantly only to relaunch the image of the company. The are not willing to improve on quality-price ratio. Lenses are pretty good, cameras as well. Why they have to spend resources and money on research? It's likely they have that technology in the drawer. Who knows...For the time being 12 mpx and a very expensive 24 mpx. If were a new photographer, starting from scratch I wouldn't doubt it my choice would be Canon. Good quality, professional standards , accurate color and gray reproduction, reliability , resolution, low noise, etc etc All the things the photographers demand. already are in the D3x . Nikon is not going to lower nor his standards or prices. The new D3x is an issue that the were forced to issue reluctantly only to relaunch the image of the company. The are not willing to improve on quality-price ratio.
Lenses are pretty good, cameras as well. Why they have to spend resources and money on research? It’s likely they have that technology in the drawer. Who knows…For the time being 12 mpx and a very expensive 24 mpx. If were a new photographer, starting from scratch I wouldn’t doubt it my choice would be Canon.

]]> By: Anonymous http://nikonrumors.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-and-85mm-f3-5-dx-lens-available-for-pre-order.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-38520 Anonymous Sun, 18 Oct 2009 04:54:12 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/?p=7812#comment-38520 It's "lens", not "lense". That little red line under words is your friend. It’s “lens”, not “lense”. That little red line under words is your friend.

]]> By: PHB http://nikonrumors.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-and-85mm-f3-5-dx-lens-available-for-pre-order.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-38478 PHB Sat, 17 Oct 2009 01:37:23 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/?p=7812#comment-38478 You can do that to the output of a D300s using photoshop. It is not clear to me how much more Nikon can do to the microlenses to improve ISO performance. They are certainly doing a heroic job of it. I think that their next priority is very clearly going to be to get a 24MP body to deliver ISO 6400 at full resolution and offer ISO 12800 at half resolution. You can do that to the output of a D300s using photoshop.

It is not clear to me how much more Nikon can do to the microlenses to improve ISO performance. They are certainly doing a heroic job of it.

I think that their next priority is very clearly going to be to get a 24MP body to deliver ISO 6400 at full resolution and offer ISO 12800 at half resolution.

]]> By: PHB http://nikonrumors.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-and-85mm-f3-5-dx-lens-available-for-pre-order.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-38477 PHB Sat, 17 Oct 2009 01:34:07 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/?p=7812#comment-38477 Nope, there is a hard limit set by the wavelength of light at about 320 MP. At that point the sensor pitch is two wavelengths of light. You can go smaller, but you won't get better results due to the quantum nature of light. From a technical standpoint, it is entirely possible to make a 320MP sensor today. There are actually sensors that fine in low end cameras. The ISO response at max resolution would be shitty and it would take maybe one frame every two seconds. And you would need to shoot using an f/2.8 lens wide open all the time to get the max resolution or you would get diffraction effects. At this point there are no lenses for such a camera. I suspect that the reason Nikon is now interested in bringing out primes is that they would like to capture the 50MP market and it is going to be easier to make primes that can do justice to a 50MP sensor than zooms. But making any sort of glass that could perform above 100MP would seem pretty tough. The only reason it is practical at all is CAD/CAM. The current zooms are easily good for 25MP though. I think we will see the D4/D400 roll out as 24MP bodies, followed in due course by a D800. The D3s may stay in the catalog and even continue to be manufactured for quite a while as an ultra high ISO camera, but eventually it will be dropped. I think it is pretty clear that you will be able to buy 12MP cameras from Nikon for years. But it is also pretty clear that the next flagship number will be for a 24MP body. Nope, there is a hard limit set by the wavelength of light at about 320 MP. At that point the sensor pitch is two wavelengths of light. You can go smaller, but you won’t get better results due to the quantum nature of light.

From a technical standpoint, it is entirely possible to make a 320MP sensor today. There are actually sensors that fine in low end cameras. The ISO response at max resolution would be shitty and it would take maybe one frame every two seconds. And you would need to shoot using an f/2.8 lens wide open all the time to get the max resolution or you would get diffraction effects.

At this point there are no lenses for such a camera. I suspect that the reason Nikon is now interested in bringing out primes is that they would like to capture the 50MP market and it is going to be easier to make primes that can do justice to a 50MP sensor than zooms.

But making any sort of glass that could perform above 100MP would seem pretty tough. The only reason it is practical at all is CAD/CAM.

The current zooms are easily good for 25MP though. I think we will see the D4/D400 roll out as 24MP bodies, followed in due course by a D800. The D3s may stay in the catalog and even continue to be manufactured for quite a while as an ultra high ISO camera, but eventually it will be dropped.

I think it is pretty clear that you will be able to buy 12MP cameras from Nikon for years. But it is also pretty clear that the next flagship number will be for a 24MP body.

]]> By: BillyBobJohnson http://nikonrumors.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-and-85mm-f3-5-dx-lens-available-for-pre-order.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-38429 BillyBobJohnson Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:57:27 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/?p=7812#comment-38429 Built like a tank and weighing in at 485g. Errrm, no. Straight from the photozone review, 'the outer body is made of plastic'. Either you don't have it or you're talking out of your arse. I suspect the latter. Link included for anyone who gives a toss. http://www.photozone.de/nikon--nikkor-aps-c-lens-tests/377-nikkor_1685_3556vr Notable also you don't comment on the shit-to-mediocre Bokeh. It's typical middle of the road junk and quite funny how you feel offended by criticism of it. As for the other lenses, I'm quite happy with the current 70-200mm and couldn't care less about the new one. No need to change as I'm using a D300. As for the primes. Well they aren't the best. There is certainly room for a decent spec 50/1.2 with substantial build quality and a faster motor as most people around here. would agree.. Built like a tank and weighing in at 485g. Errrm, no. Straight from the photozone review, ‘the outer body is made of plastic’.

Either you don’t have it or you’re talking out of your arse. I suspect the latter. Link included for anyone who gives a toss. http://www.photozone.de/nikon–nikkor-aps-c-lens-tests/377-nikkor_1685_3556vr

Notable also you don’t comment on the shit-to-mediocre Bokeh. It’s typical middle of the road junk and quite funny how you feel offended by criticism of it. As for the other lenses, I’m quite happy with the current 70-200mm and couldn’t care less about the new one. No need to change as I’m using a D300. As for the primes. Well they aren’t the best. There is certainly room for a decent spec 50/1.2 with substantial build quality and a faster motor as most people around here. would agree..

]]> By: camera reviewer http://nikonrumors.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-and-85mm-f3-5-dx-lens-available-for-pre-order.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-38424 camera reviewer Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:10:00 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/?p=7812#comment-38424 The Nikon DS3 certainly looks to be a great camera. I will be keeping my D300 and I won’t be rushing out to upgrade yet. A number of good cameras from Nikon have come out since my D300 was introduced but it still does everything I need. The only thing that would make me upgrade earlier than needed is the lure of HD video in the camera. If I was looking for a new camera then the The Nikon DS3 would be on top of my list as it sure has the features any pro will drool over. The Nikon DS3 certainly looks to be a great camera. I will be keeping my D300 and I won’t be rushing out to upgrade yet. A number of good cameras from Nikon have come out since my D300 was introduced but it still does everything I need. The only thing that would make me upgrade earlier than needed is the lure of HD video in the camera. If I was looking for a new camera then the The Nikon DS3 would be on top of my list as it sure has the features any pro will drool over.

]]> By: setecientos http://nikonrumors.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-and-85mm-f3-5-dx-lens-available-for-pre-order.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-38416 setecientos Fri, 16 Oct 2009 08:32:02 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/?p=7812#comment-38416 I was kinda disappointed, I hoped for a 85mm 1.4 with VR and would pay $1500 or more if it comes true. I was kinda disappointed, I hoped for a 85mm 1.4 with VR and would pay $1500 or more if it comes true.

]]> By: EG http://nikonrumors.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-and-85mm-f3-5-dx-lens-available-for-pre-order.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-38413 EG Fri, 16 Oct 2009 06:45:21 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/?p=7812#comment-38413 Reduce the pixels to 6Mp and let Hi3 be iso102400 then it could be a modern version of the FM (or EM for that matter). Reduce the pixels to 6Mp and let Hi3 be iso102400 then it could be a modern version of the FM (or EM for that matter).

]]> By: Meon http://nikonrumors.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-and-85mm-f3-5-dx-lens-available-for-pre-order.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-38409 Meon Fri, 16 Oct 2009 05:59:51 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/?p=7812#comment-38409 Imagine 100mp, diffraction effects at f5? file size larger than an HD movie? Imagine 100mp, diffraction effects at f5?
file size larger than an HD movie?

]]> By: Meon http://nikonrumors.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-and-85mm-f3-5-dx-lens-available-for-pre-order.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-38408 Meon Fri, 16 Oct 2009 05:58:18 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/?p=7812#comment-38408 Built like a tank. Mine's metal, fool. Now go complain why the 70-200 f2.8 doesn't do f1.8 and then go complain why the 50 f1.8 doesn't do f1.4 Built like a tank. Mine’s metal, fool.
Now go complain why the 70-200 f2.8 doesn’t do f1.8
and then go complain why the 50 f1.8 doesn’t do f1.4

]]> By: Geonr http://nikonrumors.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-and-85mm-f3-5-dx-lens-available-for-pre-order.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-38407 Geonr Fri, 16 Oct 2009 05:55:11 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/?p=7812#comment-38407 Yeh, and trees from Malaysia and steel from India, etc. Poor nikon. They should also build their own unis for their techs instead of relying on 3rd party institutions. Yeh, and trees from Malaysia and steel from India, etc.
Poor nikon. They should also build their own unis for their techs instead of relying on 3rd party institutions.

]]> By: Geonr http://nikonrumors.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-and-85mm-f3-5-dx-lens-available-for-pre-order.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-38406 Geonr Fri, 16 Oct 2009 05:52:15 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/?p=7812#comment-38406 Good luck with that Sony, and trying to find wierd flash adapters for all your gear. Good luck with that Sony, and trying to find wierd flash adapters for all your gear.

]]> By: Gary http://nikonrumors.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-and-85mm-f3-5-dx-lens-available-for-pre-order.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-38401 Gary Fri, 16 Oct 2009 03:05:26 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/?p=7812#comment-38401 Complaining about the new Nikon cameras and lenses would be like complaining about a Ferrari because it lacks a luggage rack on top or a towing hook in the back. People get real! Nikon has recently released some incredible products. As someone else said so well, if you cannot take amazing pictures...not just good...but amazing pictures...with the new D3s then you may be in the wrong profession or hobby. Unless you are the second coming of Ansel Adams and have reached the human limits of what can be done w/ all this great equipment, then you really have no basis to complain. Work on perfecting your art, and enjoy the current offerings. There will always be some better technology on the horizon...and hence, no device when it is released will ever seem perfect. It's fine to dream of something even better, but it's foolish to not recognize the value in what's available now. Complaining about the new Nikon cameras and lenses would be like complaining about a Ferrari because it lacks a luggage rack on top or a towing hook in the back.

People get real! Nikon has recently released some incredible products.

As someone else said so well, if you cannot take amazing pictures…not just good…but amazing pictures…with the new D3s then you may be in the wrong profession or hobby.

Unless you are the second coming of Ansel Adams and have reached the human limits of what can be done w/ all this great equipment, then you really have no basis to complain. Work on perfecting your art, and enjoy the current offerings.

There will always be some better technology on the horizon…and hence, no device when it is released will ever seem perfect. It’s fine to dream of something even better, but it’s foolish to not recognize the value in what’s available now.

]]> By: bjokerud http://nikonrumors.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-and-85mm-f3-5-dx-lens-available-for-pre-order.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-38389 bjokerud Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:43:37 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/?p=7812#comment-38389 An awesome combinaton to. D300 and 17-55, all you'll ever need XD An awesome combinaton to. D300 and 17-55, all you’ll ever need XD

]]> By: Jay http://nikonrumors.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-and-85mm-f3-5-dx-lens-available-for-pre-order.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-38380 Jay Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:17:31 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/?p=7812#comment-38380 you mean... teach him photoshop lol. you mean… teach him photoshop lol.

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