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		<title>By: Lampus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lampus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;
Nikon is a whole new world to me and I was surprised to see, that Nikon only has ONE model, which has more than 12MP! WHAT?? Are they nuts?

&lt;&lt;

Obviously you are not that pro if you really meant what you wrote there...
I&#039;m not going to bother teaching you why Nikon only keeps 12MP with only one higher mega pixel full frame camera. You have no idea about cameras.</description>
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Nikon is a whole new world to me and I was surprised to see, that Nikon only has ONE model, which has more than 12MP! WHAT?? Are they nuts?</p>
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<p>Obviously you are not that pro if you really meant what you wrote there&#8230;<br />
I&#039;m not going to bother teaching you why Nikon only keeps 12MP with only one higher mega pixel full frame camera. You have no idea about cameras.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 06:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Professional video is 720p/50 converted to 720p/25 in the computer.

Motion-Jpeg is not optimal, but the advantages is that Nikon can use the same picture settings and processing as with the stills. AND you can more easily take out still from the movie.

Motion-Jpeg with 1080p would cause hugh files.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professional video is 720p/50 converted to 720p/25 in the computer.</p>
<p>Motion-Jpeg is not optimal, but the advantages is that Nikon can use the same picture settings and processing as with the stills. AND you can more easily take out still from the movie.</p>
<p>Motion-Jpeg with 1080p would cause hugh files.</p>
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		<title>By: shootmore</title>
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		<dc:creator>shootmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 05:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just don&#039;t see how the iso can get better
i see a frame rate jump more than another stop of iso...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just don&#8217;t see how the iso can get better<br />
i see a frame rate jump more than another stop of iso&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: kud</title>
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		<dc:creator>kud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 01:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Same sensor? seems like Nikon in-camera Noise Reduction technology has improved another milestone, if it&#039;s true we will be getting heavily processed photos before even have a chance to do it in capture nx or acr.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same sensor? seems like Nikon in-camera Noise Reduction technology has improved another milestone, if it&#8217;s true we will be getting heavily processed photos before even have a chance to do it in capture nx or acr.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 00:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NO NEW LENSES....wtf that cant be right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NO NEW LENSES&#8230;.wtf that cant be right.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 23:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why dont we stop putting people into such cut and dry categories........... this is as dumb as saying all my friends eat with a fork and using it as an argument against chopsticks....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why dont we stop putting people into such cut and dry categories&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. this is as dumb as saying all my friends eat with a fork and using it as an argument against chopsticks&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Enche</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2009/10/11/the-latest-nikon-d3s-specs.aspx/comment-page-1#comment-37240</link>
		<dc:creator>Enche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 23:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes, video and compact size will help in the tough competition landscape (Nikon has plenty of challengers, they need to pay attention not only for Canon, Nikon need to pay attention to Sony, Panasonic, and Samsung as well.

It is more important to delay a product rather than launched with so so improvement/quality. If the damage is done, it is hard to recover. 

also.. low price or at least the same as its predecessor will help. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, video and compact size will help in the tough competition landscape (Nikon has plenty of challengers, they need to pay attention not only for Canon, Nikon need to pay attention to Sony, Panasonic, and Samsung as well.</p>
<p>It is more important to delay a product rather than launched with so so improvement/quality. If the damage is done, it is hard to recover. </p>
<p>also.. low price or at least the same as its predecessor will help. <img src='http://nikonrumors.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ex-Canodian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ex-Canodian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 23:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hell yeah !</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>all this people saying &quot;I don&#039;t need video, thus nikon shouldn&#039;t bother with it&quot; follow the same logic that somebody saying &quot;I don&#039;t need 12MP, nikon should stick to 2MP&quot;. 

Like it or not, it isn&#039;t about what you need, it is about what the market and competition demands. video is the next big thing. take it and quit complaining. You may as well demand decent video if they wish to avoid the bad press associated with the fact that your top of the line flagship has inferior video quality than a point and shoot and every single camera your competition makes. how&#039;s that for some reputation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all this people saying &#8220;I don&#8217;t need video, thus nikon shouldn&#8217;t bother with it&#8221; follow the same logic that somebody saying &#8220;I don&#8217;t need 12MP, nikon should stick to 2MP&#8221;. </p>
<p>Like it or not, it isn&#8217;t about what you need, it is about what the market and competition demands. video is the next big thing. take it and quit complaining. You may as well demand decent video if they wish to avoid the bad press associated with the fact that your top of the line flagship has inferior video quality than a point and shoot and every single camera your competition makes. how&#8217;s that for some reputation.</p>
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		<title>By: PHB</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2009/10/11/the-latest-nikon-d3s-specs.aspx/comment-page-1#comment-37233</link>
		<dc:creator>PHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it bizarre when people opine that &#039;Nikon missed it with the D300s&#039;. The fact is that Nikon has pretty close to sold more D300 bodies than it has all FX bodies put together. 

Anyone who expects the D700x to come out before the D3x has come down to a reasonable price, is going to be disappointed. Nikon would no doubt like to sell a D700x even more than folk on this board would like to buy it. But the fact is that at the moment they are unable to make that camera for their traditional flagship price point. 

Ken Rockwell is an ass. Only he could write a review of a camera and fail to mention the three main drawbacks to the Leica system up front. First it is manual focus, second the range finder design means you are not seeing what you are shooting, third the body costs $7000 and the lenses run you $1200 for the normal and $2500-$5000 for your other primes - forget zooms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it bizarre when people opine that &#8216;Nikon missed it with the D300s&#8217;. The fact is that Nikon has pretty close to sold more D300 bodies than it has all FX bodies put together. </p>
<p>Anyone who expects the D700x to come out before the D3x has come down to a reasonable price, is going to be disappointed. Nikon would no doubt like to sell a D700x even more than folk on this board would like to buy it. But the fact is that at the moment they are unable to make that camera for their traditional flagship price point. </p>
<p>Ken Rockwell is an ass. Only he could write a review of a camera and fail to mention the three main drawbacks to the Leica system up front. First it is manual focus, second the range finder design means you are not seeing what you are shooting, third the body costs $7000 and the lenses run you $1200 for the normal and $2500-$5000 for your other primes &#8211; forget zooms.</p>
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		<title>By: Ernst</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ernst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everything about an HD Handicam is inferior to a DSLR for video recording except the back-end electronics, and that can be remedied in one generation.  In theory, a DSLR should blow them away, and I&#039;m certain future DSLRs will.

If I send a PJ to cover a story and he comes back with beautiful stills AND compelling video, that&#039;s a good thing.  He&#039;s already there.  And why should he lug around another piece of equipment?  

These are like the same arguments one made favoring a trunk full of primes instead of two zooms.  That&#039;s a fine-arts photographer talking.  A sports/news pro needs whatever gets out of their way so they can capture the story and make the customer happy.  And the capability to record video is becoming part of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everything about an HD Handicam is inferior to a DSLR for video recording except the back-end electronics, and that can be remedied in one generation.  In theory, a DSLR should blow them away, and I&#8217;m certain future DSLRs will.</p>
<p>If I send a PJ to cover a story and he comes back with beautiful stills AND compelling video, that&#8217;s a good thing.  He&#8217;s already there.  And why should he lug around another piece of equipment?  </p>
<p>These are like the same arguments one made favoring a trunk full of primes instead of two zooms.  That&#8217;s a fine-arts photographer talking.  A sports/news pro needs whatever gets out of their way so they can capture the story and make the customer happy.  And the capability to record video is becoming part of that.</p>
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		<title>By: 3space</title>
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		<dc:creator>3space</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>totally agree.... pro camera needs pro video (1080p @ 24,30 fps) and a decent codec for capture....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>totally agree&#8230;. pro camera needs pro video (1080p @ 24,30 fps) and a decent codec for capture&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ernst</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2009/10/11/the-latest-nikon-d3s-specs.aspx/comment-page-1#comment-37230</link>
		<dc:creator>Ernst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A DSLR is 90% of the way to being a great motion picture camera. 

This &quot;buy a video camera&quot; nonsense totally misses the mark - no &quot;video camera&quot; short of a $250,000 Panavision can compare to what&#039;s possible with a DSLR&#039;s optical finder, huge sensor and selection of spectacular lenses.

What Nikon and Canon are doing is essentially enabling use of the capability of a system we&#039;re ALREADY hauling around with us.  It won&#039;t be long before DSLR video equals or surpasses the quality of movie cameras used in feature films (the still capability always has).  Things are about to change radically.

The D3s is the ideal camera for video because it&#039;s mission in life is not fine arts stills but rough-and-tumble professional photojournalism in the field - recording an EVENT.  That&#039;s why it&#039;s got the fastest autofocus, quickest frame rate, and all those weather seals.  These cameras are about capturing the story under less-than-ideal conditions quickly and making the customer happy.  The ability to record video fits in perfectly with that mission.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A DSLR is 90% of the way to being a great motion picture camera. </p>
<p>This &#8220;buy a video camera&#8221; nonsense totally misses the mark &#8211; no &#8220;video camera&#8221; short of a $250,000 Panavision can compare to what&#8217;s possible with a DSLR&#8217;s optical finder, huge sensor and selection of spectacular lenses.</p>
<p>What Nikon and Canon are doing is essentially enabling use of the capability of a system we&#8217;re ALREADY hauling around with us.  It won&#8217;t be long before DSLR video equals or surpasses the quality of movie cameras used in feature films (the still capability always has).  Things are about to change radically.</p>
<p>The D3s is the ideal camera for video because it&#8217;s mission in life is not fine arts stills but rough-and-tumble professional photojournalism in the field &#8211; recording an EVENT.  That&#8217;s why it&#8217;s got the fastest autofocus, quickest frame rate, and all those weather seals.  These cameras are about capturing the story under less-than-ideal conditions quickly and making the customer happy.  The ability to record video fits in perfectly with that mission.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ugh... please Nikon, don&#039;t put video in your top-line cameras unless it&#039;s worthy of being on your top-line camera (e.g. 1080p).  I&#039;d prefer them not to have video at all but if you&#039;re going to do it, do it right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh&#8230; please Nikon, don&#8217;t put video in your top-line cameras unless it&#8217;s worthy of being on your top-line camera (e.g. 1080p).  I&#8217;d prefer them not to have video at all but if you&#8217;re going to do it, do it right.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2009/10/11/the-latest-nikon-d3s-specs.aspx/comment-page-1#comment-37228</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wtf you smoking man??????????</description>
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		<title>By: 3space</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2009/10/11/the-latest-nikon-d3s-specs.aspx/comment-page-1#comment-37227</link>
		<dc:creator>3space</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the d3s needs a joke of the day feature...</description>
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		<title>By: PHB</title>
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		<dc:creator>PHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that the modern zooms are fantastic. But even so, they are heavy. The main lens type I am missing in my current collection is a portrait lens with good to superb bokeh. A 70-200 zoom would fit that need, but a 85mm f/1.4 would fit it much better for about half the cost.

Given that Nikon has an absolutely stunning set of f/2.8 FX zooms it is reasonable to expect the next pro level releases to be of primes. 

Oddly enough, it is the high ISO performance of the CMOS sensors that makes the fast lenses so desirable. I can&#039;t use flash inside a conference, but with my D300 and a 50mm f/1.2 I don&#039;t need it. 

When we get to really high resolution sensors (50MP and above), the performance of the zooms is not going to be enough to do the sensor justice. Nikons zooms are as good as they are due to state of the art computer aided design. Their line of primes was designed by hand. So they are really not worth very much, in fact my DX 10-24mm lens does better than my 20mm prime. So no wonder pros have little use for them. What folk are after is a newly designed ultra-prime that outperforms the zoom.

I shoot video, but I use a video camera to do so at the moment. I am not really very interested in having a DSLR that doubles as a video camera. But I am really interested in having a video body that can use my F-mount lenses. 

In time I expect to see Nikon produce a dedicated video body. I think we will also see the shutter go electronic on DSLR sensors in the near future. 

But that is the whole point of the Nikon system, you are not just buying gear for your current needs, you expect it to work with the gear that comes out later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that the modern zooms are fantastic. But even so, they are heavy. The main lens type I am missing in my current collection is a portrait lens with good to superb bokeh. A 70-200 zoom would fit that need, but a 85mm f/1.4 would fit it much better for about half the cost.</p>
<p>Given that Nikon has an absolutely stunning set of f/2.8 FX zooms it is reasonable to expect the next pro level releases to be of primes. </p>
<p>Oddly enough, it is the high ISO performance of the CMOS sensors that makes the fast lenses so desirable. I can&#8217;t use flash inside a conference, but with my D300 and a 50mm f/1.2 I don&#8217;t need it. </p>
<p>When we get to really high resolution sensors (50MP and above), the performance of the zooms is not going to be enough to do the sensor justice. Nikons zooms are as good as they are due to state of the art computer aided design. Their line of primes was designed by hand. So they are really not worth very much, in fact my DX 10-24mm lens does better than my 20mm prime. So no wonder pros have little use for them. What folk are after is a newly designed ultra-prime that outperforms the zoom.</p>
<p>I shoot video, but I use a video camera to do so at the moment. I am not really very interested in having a DSLR that doubles as a video camera. But I am really interested in having a video body that can use my F-mount lenses. </p>
<p>In time I expect to see Nikon produce a dedicated video body. I think we will also see the shutter go electronic on DSLR sensors in the near future. </p>
<p>But that is the whole point of the Nikon system, you are not just buying gear for your current needs, you expect it to work with the gear that comes out later.</p>
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		<title>By: 3space</title>
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		<dc:creator>3space</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>canon = windows PC
nikon = apple mac

nikon cost more with fewer options but more thought in design and better build quality....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>canon = windows PC<br />
nikon = apple mac</p>
<p>nikon cost more with fewer options but more thought in design and better build quality&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: WoutK89</title>
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		<dc:creator>WoutK89</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That says D300s</description>
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		<title>By: PhotonFisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>PhotonFisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s one simple question: What will a new camera change here? What do you expect - features, price/performance, realiability, weight, usability?

Step aside for a moment: are the current cameras that bad in any of these criteria? I suppose not otherwise there would be no market for such equipment.

Regards
 PF</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s one simple question: What will a new camera change here? What do you expect &#8211; features, price/performance, realiability, weight, usability?</p>
<p>Step aside for a moment: are the current cameras that bad in any of these criteria? I suppose not otherwise there would be no market for such equipment.</p>
<p>Regards<br />
 PF</p>
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