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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 14:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no that just doesn&#039;t make sense financially....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no that just doesn&#8217;t make sense financially&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Highlight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Highlight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll tell Ya, the new 28 MP Nikon D10...
Ok?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll tell Ya, the new 28 MP Nikon D10&#8230;<br />
Ok?</p>
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		<title>By: Ct</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ct</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 21:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha! Merci ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha! Merci <img src='http://nikonrumors.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Loyola</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loyola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that&#039;s right :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that&#8217;s right <img src='http://nikonrumors.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 18:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ton Anglais est parfait, c&#039;est juste ton accent qui n&#039;est pas terrible :o)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ton Anglais est parfait, c&#8217;est juste ton accent qui n&#8217;est pas terrible <img src='http://nikonrumors.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
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		<title>By: PHB</title>
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		<dc:creator>PHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Sony has some chips. But they are not hitting the required quality and ISO performance is down as a result.

I think that we should see a D3s and D700s reasonably soon. The D300s has the same drive train and it makes sense to upgrade all the cameras based on that set of internals.

I do not think we will ever see a D700x. The D3x is a stopgap model for folk who have to have 24MP now and don&#039;t mind paying a huge premium for a camera that will perform less well than a true flagship should.

The D300s delivers 6400ISO. That is the same sensor pitch as the D3x. If they can get that to work on a full frame sensor thats the D4 right there.

I think we will see the D4 come out the minute Nikon can make an ISO 6400 24MP sensor in bulk. If that happens before the stock of D3 runs out they may not bother with a D3s at all. Not unless they think that there would be enough people willing to pay flagship prices for a 12MP D3s alongside a D4 and D700s.

The big interest for me is not the D700x, which is after all merely a lower cost model of the flagship or the D800 which would be a lower cost version of the D4. I would be much more interested by a 24MP DX format camera, a D400 to compliment the D4.

If Nikon can hit 24MP in the DX format, that would naturally lead to a D4x at 50MP 18 months later. That for me would be the ultimate body. I suspect it is still about 2 years out, but I won&#039;t have the lenses to match it till then.

While the sensors can go way beyond 50MP without hitting physical limits, the same is not true for the lenses. diffraction is going to be an issue. HDR is going to be the only way to get deep DoF.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Sony has some chips. But they are not hitting the required quality and ISO performance is down as a result.</p>
<p>I think that we should see a D3s and D700s reasonably soon. The D300s has the same drive train and it makes sense to upgrade all the cameras based on that set of internals.</p>
<p>I do not think we will ever see a D700x. The D3x is a stopgap model for folk who have to have 24MP now and don&#8217;t mind paying a huge premium for a camera that will perform less well than a true flagship should.</p>
<p>The D300s delivers 6400ISO. That is the same sensor pitch as the D3x. If they can get that to work on a full frame sensor thats the D4 right there.</p>
<p>I think we will see the D4 come out the minute Nikon can make an ISO 6400 24MP sensor in bulk. If that happens before the stock of D3 runs out they may not bother with a D3s at all. Not unless they think that there would be enough people willing to pay flagship prices for a 12MP D3s alongside a D4 and D700s.</p>
<p>The big interest for me is not the D700x, which is after all merely a lower cost model of the flagship or the D800 which would be a lower cost version of the D4. I would be much more interested by a 24MP DX format camera, a D400 to compliment the D4.</p>
<p>If Nikon can hit 24MP in the DX format, that would naturally lead to a D4x at 50MP 18 months later. That for me would be the ultimate body. I suspect it is still about 2 years out, but I won&#8217;t have the lenses to match it till then.</p>
<p>While the sensors can go way beyond 50MP without hitting physical limits, the same is not true for the lenses. diffraction is going to be an issue. HDR is going to be the only way to get deep DoF.</p>
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		<title>By: Ct</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ct</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe but they just classified the bodies as it just for not a while.
I&#039;m french and i used to often go on their website. Few monthes ago, the professionnal line was divided into two classes. &quot;Pro&quot; for D3 and D700 and Expert for the &quot;D300&quot;.
I Agree with the admin about a ne product presentation in a conference the same day and then a product show at the exhibition but in that case, they should not talk about a &quot;reflex Expert&quot; but a &quot;reflex pro&quot; except if they don&#039;t wan&#039;t to describe the D3s arrival.
The D3s will arrive that sure, but i think that the presentation will concern the D300s (as it was the D700 and the D90 last year).

And you will notice it, but sorry for my english (of course i&#039;m french!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe but they just classified the bodies as it just for not a while.<br />
I&#8217;m french and i used to often go on their website. Few monthes ago, the professionnal line was divided into two classes. &#8220;Pro&#8221; for D3 and D700 and Expert for the &#8220;D300&#8243;.<br />
I Agree with the admin about a ne product presentation in a conference the same day and then a product show at the exhibition but in that case, they should not talk about a &#8220;reflex Expert&#8221; but a &#8220;reflex pro&#8221; except if they don&#8217;t wan&#8217;t to describe the D3s arrival.<br />
The D3s will arrive that sure, but i think that the presentation will concern the D300s (as it was the D700 and the D90 last year).</p>
<p>And you will notice it, but sorry for my english (of course i&#8217;m french!)</p>
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		<title>By: Zograf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zograf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought about this once - a fictitious &quot;digital&quot; film with 36 flexible image sensors ;) After you&#039;ve exposed them you put them in a &quot;digital developer&quot; who sucks the pixels out of the film... any film camera in the world could have become a digital camera..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought about this once &#8211; a fictitious &#8220;digital&#8221; film with 36 flexible image sensors <img src='http://nikonrumors.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  After you&#8217;ve exposed them you put them in a &#8220;digital developer&#8221; who sucks the pixels out of the film&#8230; any film camera in the world could have become a digital camera..</p>
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		<title>By: bernard</title>
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		<dc:creator>bernard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 13:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s correct. I didn&#039;t look at the PDF until now. So an expert on Nikon products will do a presentation of a new DSLR. That&#039;s all... Could be a D2000, or even a D1000... (Bad joke !).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s correct. I didn&#8217;t look at the PDF until now. So an expert on Nikon products will do a presentation of a new DSLR. That&#8217;s all&#8230; Could be a D2000, or even a D1000&#8230; (Bad joke !).</p>
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		<title>By: LKoning</title>
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		<dc:creator>LKoning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 12:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you would check out the original PDF you would see this is completely incorrect. It says:

&quot;Présentation nouveau reflex&quot;    &quot;Expert produit Nikon&quot;

Which means &quot;Presentation of a new reflex camera&quot; by a &quot;Nikon product expert&quot;. So expert (note the caps in the copied section too) refers to the person, not the camera!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you would check out the original PDF you would see this is completely incorrect. It says:</p>
<p>&#8220;Présentation nouveau reflex&#8221;    &#8220;Expert produit Nikon&#8221;</p>
<p>Which means &#8220;Presentation of a new reflex camera&#8221; by a &#8220;Nikon product expert&#8221;. So expert (note the caps in the copied section too) refers to the person, not the camera!</p>
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		<title>By: HKjasd</title>
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		<dc:creator>HKjasd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>your sacrasm-o-matic is off for today?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>your sacrasm-o-matic is off for today?</p>
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		<title>By: acarodp</title>
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		<dc:creator>acarodp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Admin: The way you cut-and-paste from the french program is misleading, hence all the talk about &quot;expert&quot;. If you look at the program PDF, there is &quot;Presentation noveau reflex&quot; and then in a smaller font &quot;Expert produit nikon&quot;. &quot;Expert Produit Nikon&quot; stands for &quot;Nikon product expert&quot; i.e. it is the qualification of the person presenting the reflex, and does NOT indicate it is a &quot;Refex expert&quot; which in french indicates what in english you would call &quot;prosumer&quot;, e.g. D90, or perhaps even D300. 
The same way, elsewhere Vincent Munier is defined a &quot;photographe professionel &#039;nature&#039; &quot; in the same smaller font. By the way, Munier is really an outstanding nature photographer.

L.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Admin: The way you cut-and-paste from the french program is misleading, hence all the talk about &#8220;expert&#8221;. If you look at the program PDF, there is &#8220;Presentation noveau reflex&#8221; and then in a smaller font &#8220;Expert produit nikon&#8221;. &#8220;Expert Produit Nikon&#8221; stands for &#8220;Nikon product expert&#8221; i.e. it is the qualification of the person presenting the reflex, and does NOT indicate it is a &#8220;Refex expert&#8221; which in french indicates what in english you would call &#8220;prosumer&#8221;, e.g. D90, or perhaps even D300.<br />
The same way, elsewhere Vincent Munier is defined a &#8220;photographe professionel &#8216;nature&#8217; &#8221; in the same smaller font. By the way, Munier is really an outstanding nature photographer.</p>
<p>L.</p>
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		<title>By: Frenchie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frenchie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 10:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;nouveau&quot; =&gt; one (and only *one*) new DSLR
&quot;reflex Expert&quot; =&gt; DSLR for advanced users, definitely *not* professional users</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;nouveau&#8221; =&gt; one (and only *one*) new DSLR<br />
&#8220;reflex Expert&#8221; =&gt; DSLR for advanced users, definitely *not* professional users</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 10:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was my thought too based on recent experience with our local PMA show. When we start getting rumours of an offical Nikon Press event with multiple body announcements then we can get excited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was my thought too based on recent experience with our local PMA show. When we start getting rumours of an offical Nikon Press event with multiple body announcements then we can get excited.</p>
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		<title>By: Loyola</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loyola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 10:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Expert is here just the business title of the guy who will make the show that all :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Expert is here just the business title of the guy who will make the show that all <img src='http://nikonrumors.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Alain2x</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alain2x</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 10:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You just invented such a category :)

http://www.europe-nikon.com/family/fr_FR/categories/broad/75.html

Nikon-France has 2 categories of SLRs  &quot;Pro&quot; and &quot;Amateur&quot;

thanks for the 3rd one, it makes things so simple ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You just invented such a category <img src='http://nikonrumors.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.europe-nikon.com/family/fr_FR/categories/broad/75.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.europe-nikon.com/family/fr_FR/categories/broad/75.html</a></p>
<p>Nikon-France has 2 categories of SLRs  &#8220;Pro&#8221; and &#8220;Amateur&#8221;</p>
<p>thanks for the 3rd one, it makes things so simple <img src='http://nikonrumors.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 09:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ADMIN, please correct the news, the Expert word is not meant for the camera but the person who is running the show, as is apparent in the PDF.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ADMIN, please correct the news, the Expert word is not meant for the camera but the person who is running the show, as is apparent in the PDF.</p>
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		<title>By: leo</title>
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		<dc:creator>leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 09:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in french a D3 or D3x are called  &quot;des reflexs pros&quot;
and a D300s or d700 are called &quot;reflexs experts&quot;
d3000 or d5000 may be called &quot;reflexs amateur ou debutants&quot;
i guess nikon france .fr will not put a D3s in &quot;reflex expert&quot; category.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in french a D3 or D3x are called  &#8220;des reflexs pros&#8221;<br />
and a D300s or d700 are called &#8220;reflexs experts&#8221;<br />
d3000 or d5000 may be called &#8220;reflexs amateur ou debutants&#8221;<br />
i guess nikon france .fr will not put a D3s in &#8220;reflex expert&#8221; category.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 09:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EXPERT is NOT the same as PRO, at least in France.

There, especially in the press and therefore the public, they refer to as EXPERT anything up to and including D300. Usually that doesn&#039;t include D700 because it&#039;s a full-frame and still considered PRO. Dx is obviously considered PRO.

EXPERT is between AMATEUR and PRO.

It&#039;s very likely that they are talking about D300s, but I wonder why they don&#039;t mention it by name. I guess the promo material was created before the official announcement.

As a side note, I don&#039;t think they would chose that kind of amateur event to make a major announcement in the pro realm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EXPERT is NOT the same as PRO, at least in France.</p>
<p>There, especially in the press and therefore the public, they refer to as EXPERT anything up to and including D300. Usually that doesn&#8217;t include D700 because it&#8217;s a full-frame and still considered PRO. Dx is obviously considered PRO.</p>
<p>EXPERT is between AMATEUR and PRO.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s very likely that they are talking about D300s, but I wonder why they don&#8217;t mention it by name. I guess the promo material was created before the official announcement.</p>
<p>As a side note, I don&#8217;t think they would chose that kind of amateur event to make a major announcement in the pro realm.</p>
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		<title>By: MWNN</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2009/09/30/what-will-happen-on-october-15-according-to-nikon-france-nikon-d3s.aspx/comment-page-2/#comment-35416</link>
		<dc:creator>MWNN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 09:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New expert DSLR is much more a new D700? than a new D3? isnt it ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New expert DSLR is much more a new D700? than a new D3? isnt it ?</p>
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