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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m really curious about what will be next, in terms of FX body. I think one big question might be what Sony will do. If it&#039;s true and they put three bodies out there with 36mm sensors, then Nikon and Canon might react. I know a couple people that are waiting for something affordable with a bigger sensor, and quite a couple might be willing to switch to sony.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really curious about what will be next, in terms of FX body. I think one big question might be what Sony will do. If it&#8217;s true and they put three bodies out there with 36mm sensors, then Nikon and Canon might react. I know a couple people that are waiting for something affordable with a bigger sensor, and quite a couple might be willing to switch to sony.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 15:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d simply love 24mm 1.4, but I fear, that i might sell close to 2000 dollar, which will make the sigma 24mm 1.8 even more attractive, especially as bokeh isn&#039;t the primary goal here.
Anyone using the 24mm? On FX? Corners? I&#039;m not really a corner sharpness fetishist, but on wide angle I think it can be quite important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d simply love 24mm 1.4, but I fear, that i might sell close to 2000 dollar, which will make the sigma 24mm 1.8 even more attractive, especially as bokeh isn&#8217;t the primary goal here.<br />
Anyone using the 24mm? On FX? Corners? I&#8217;m not really a corner sharpness fetishist, but on wide angle I think it can be quite important.</p>
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		<title>By: PHB</title>
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		<dc:creator>PHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is because either they have already gone to FX format and are upset to discover that Nikon only produces $2000 lenses for their $2400-$8000 cameras or they want to hold open the option of going to FX and &#039;futureproof&#039;.

Me, I will wait until the yen is softer before buying any pro-glass. And I will wait for a mid-priced 25MP body before considering going to FX, if at all.

I don&#039;t agree that glass lasts forever, computer aided design has rendered the f/2.8 prime range obsolete. My 10-24 zoom is sharper than my 20mm prime. And only the gold band glass currently on sale is going to perform well enough to justify a 55MP sensor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is because either they have already gone to FX format and are upset to discover that Nikon only produces $2000 lenses for their $2400-$8000 cameras or they want to hold open the option of going to FX and &#8216;futureproof&#8217;.</p>
<p>Me, I will wait until the yen is softer before buying any pro-glass. And I will wait for a mid-priced 25MP body before considering going to FX, if at all.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t agree that glass lasts forever, computer aided design has rendered the f/2.8 prime range obsolete. My 10-24 zoom is sharper than my 20mm prime. And only the gold band glass currently on sale is going to perform well enough to justify a 55MP sensor.</p>
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		<title>By: PHB</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2009/08/11/more-nikon-patents.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-31391</link>
		<dc:creator>PHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats, interesting, how many people would want a lightweight 200mm f/2.8 versus how many would like a lightweight 70-200 f/4 zoom?

Myself, i think that nikon has telephoto zooms more than covered. They have the pro 70-200 and the pro but non-VR 80-200 at half the price. And then on top of those they have the 70-300VR and non-VR, the 55-200 kit and the 18-200 super-zoom.

That is five zooms, do we really, really need another zoom in between the 70-300 and 80-200?

A prime on the other hand could be optimized for great bokeh and would require fewer lens groups. OK so the f/2 is a legendary lens, but even if you can afford it, it is very heavy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats, interesting, how many people would want a lightweight 200mm f/2.8 versus how many would like a lightweight 70-200 f/4 zoom?</p>
<p>Myself, i think that nikon has telephoto zooms more than covered. They have the pro 70-200 and the pro but non-VR 80-200 at half the price. And then on top of those they have the 70-300VR and non-VR, the 55-200 kit and the 18-200 super-zoom.</p>
<p>That is five zooms, do we really, really need another zoom in between the 70-300 and 80-200?</p>
<p>A prime on the other hand could be optimized for great bokeh and would require fewer lens groups. OK so the f/2 is a legendary lens, but even if you can afford it, it is very heavy.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why is everyone bitching about cheap F/4 lenses? aren&#039;t you guys aware of slow apertures, which makes the lenses pretty much useless in low light shooting where you have to stop down to F/5.6 due to chromatic aberration?  F/4 lineup is good for daylight shooting, methinks.

or shop on KEH.com and buy old MF nikkors for 1/4 the price for new AF-S nikkors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why is everyone bitching about cheap F/4 lenses? aren&#8217;t you guys aware of slow apertures, which makes the lenses pretty much useless in low light shooting where you have to stop down to F/5.6 due to chromatic aberration?  F/4 lineup is good for daylight shooting, methinks.</p>
<p>or shop on KEH.com and buy old MF nikkors for 1/4 the price for new AF-S nikkors.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2009/08/11/more-nikon-patents.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-31347</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;LUXEON Flash is already providing light output for 5+Megapixel cameras enabling them to take great images.  After all it&#039;s all about people having fun using their cameras and phones. &quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;LUXEON Flash is already providing light output for 5+Megapixel cameras enabling them to take great images.  After all it&#8217;s all about people having fun using their cameras and phones. &#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: [NR] admin</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2009/08/11/more-nikon-patents.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-31344</link>
		<dc:creator>[NR] admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are talking about patent applications here, not granted patents which can take much longer to be processed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are talking about patent applications here, not granted patents which can take much longer to be processed.</p>
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		<title>By: [NR] admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>[NR] admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not agree with that - take a look at the patent for the p&amp;s camera with the built-in projector: 
http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&amp;Sect2=HITOFF&amp;p=1&amp;u=/netahtml/PTO/search-bool.html&amp;r=1&amp;f=G&amp;l=50&amp;co1=AND&amp;d=PG01&amp;s1=20080212957&amp;OS=20080212957&amp;RS=20080212957
it was filed February 28, 2008 and the patent application was made public on September 4, 2008 - 10 months before the camera was officially announced by Nikon. They even had drawings of thew camera.
What is true is that not every patent makes it to production.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not agree with that &#8211; take a look at the patent for the p&#038;s camera with the built-in projector:<br />
<a href="http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&#038;Sect2=HITOFF&#038;p=1&#038;u=/netahtml/PTO/search-bool.html&#038;r=1&#038;f=G&#038;l=50&#038;co1=AND&#038;d=PG01&#038;s1=20080212957&#038;OS=20080212957&#038;RS=20080212957" rel="nofollow">http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&#038;Sect2=HITOFF&#038;p=1&#038;u=/netahtml/PTO/search-bool.html&#038;r=1&#038;f=G&#038;l=50&#038;co1=AND&#038;d=PG01&#038;s1=20080212957&#038;OS=20080212957&#038;RS=20080212957</a><br />
it was filed February 28, 2008 and the patent application was made public on September 4, 2008 &#8211; 10 months before the camera was officially announced by Nikon. They even had drawings of thew camera.<br />
What is true is that not every patent makes it to production.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wanted to say... Philips has already developed an LED camera flash. It&#039;s called the Luxeon. http://www.philipslumileds.com/solutions/cameraphoneflash/

Just pointing that out for the people who think it wouldn&#039;t work well. Looks like it works great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to say&#8230; Philips has already developed an LED camera flash. It&#8217;s called the Luxeon. <a href="http://www.philipslumileds.com/solutions/cameraphoneflash/" rel="nofollow">http://www.philipslumileds.com/solutions/cameraphoneflash/</a></p>
<p>Just pointing that out for the people who think it wouldn&#8217;t work well. Looks like it works great.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes, if you were using TTL, you would still get preflashes

however you can use flash value lock and you would get the preflashes and not get them when taking the picture - useful for blinking eyes

or you can shoot controlling the flashes power manually and you would not get preflashes- and the prospect of controlling all the flashes manually from your camera with a RF link is very exciting</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, if you were using TTL, you would still get preflashes</p>
<p>however you can use flash value lock and you would get the preflashes and not get them when taking the picture &#8211; useful for blinking eyes</p>
<p>or you can shoot controlling the flashes power manually and you would not get preflashes- and the prospect of controlling all the flashes manually from your camera with a RF link is very exciting</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought preflash was also used for light metering. I that case, anyway, you&#039;d still have preflashes in a wireless setup. Or am I wrong here??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought preflash was also used for light metering. I that case, anyway, you&#8217;d still have preflashes in a wireless setup. Or am I wrong here??</p>
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		<title>By: WoutK89</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2009/08/11/more-nikon-patents.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-31338</link>
		<dc:creator>WoutK89</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 07:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hehe, only time will tell ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hehe, only time will tell <img src='http://nikonrumors.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 03:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sooo I&#039;m trying to avoid reading the whole patent but is the chance of an SB-&quot;700&quot; coming out soon good? I&#039;ve been considering the SB-600 for a while and always check up here to see if it&#039;s going to be renewed soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sooo I&#8217;m trying to avoid reading the whole patent but is the chance of an SB-&#8221;700&#8243; coming out soon good? I&#8217;ve been considering the SB-600 for a while and always check up here to see if it&#8217;s going to be renewed soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Zograf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zograf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 03:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again, you cannot judge for future products out of US published Nikon patents!! They are either for already products available on the market or, specialized one...  The time Nikon&#039;s US patent is out, Nikon has already the product on the market....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again, you cannot judge for future products out of US published Nikon patents!! They are either for already products available on the market or, specialized one&#8230;  The time Nikon&#8217;s US patent is out, Nikon has already the product on the market&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 03:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since when does DX mean cheap?

Please don&#039;t confuse cheap consumer glass like the 18-200 than a 17-55mm 2.8, which is DX but no where near cheap. D300 and D300s are in the +$1600, again far from cheap.

Theirs two kind of Nikon pro, DX and FX shooter. I shoot DX, my colleague shoots FX. At the end of the day, the only difference is he has higher ISO capability. Our pictures both sell for just as much, and our clients (or many pro&#039;s) cannot tell the difference.

And if sharpness and MP is your thing, we simply take out our H1D.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since when does DX mean cheap?</p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t confuse cheap consumer glass like the 18-200 than a 17-55mm 2.8, which is DX but no where near cheap. D300 and D300s are in the +$1600, again far from cheap.</p>
<p>Theirs two kind of Nikon pro, DX and FX shooter. I shoot DX, my colleague shoots FX. At the end of the day, the only difference is he has higher ISO capability. Our pictures both sell for just as much, and our clients (or many pro&#8217;s) cannot tell the difference.</p>
<p>And if sharpness and MP is your thing, we simply take out our H1D.</p>
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		<title>By: [NR] admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>[NR] admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 01:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I added the release date of 01/08 because I thought it is for the last model.</description>
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		<title>By: [NR] admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>[NR] admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 01:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then maybe it will be a D700s - just like the D300s. Nikon must/should release another ff body this year. D700s makes more sense to me than D700x.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then maybe it will be a D700s &#8211; just like the D300s. Nikon must/should release another ff body this year. D700s makes more sense to me than D700x.</p>
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		<title>By: Gra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 01:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How seriously bright can led lighting be? For flash/speed light? Ok...I&#039;ve seen led for headlight use in cars and industrial lighting...but led&#039;s bright enough to make BETTER flash lighting? I&#039;d like to see that...Can led respond as quick or quicker thant traditional flash?

...as someone&#039;s put it up there...lighting for Dmovie...fantastic, altho I&#039;m not a Dmovie fan....I just bought D3X...

Re: D700x/s I&#039;ve spoken to several parties in Australia, not the least Nikon Aust., because I want that res in a more mobile body for back up to D3X, and they&#039;ve repeatedly told me, there is no plan to put 24mp FX sensor in D700 or any similar body...&#039;any time soon&#039;

Noone&#039;s told me why...but seems in concrete.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How seriously bright can led lighting be? For flash/speed light? Ok&#8230;I&#8217;ve seen led for headlight use in cars and industrial lighting&#8230;but led&#8217;s bright enough to make BETTER flash lighting? I&#8217;d like to see that&#8230;Can led respond as quick or quicker thant traditional flash?</p>
<p>&#8230;as someone&#8217;s put it up there&#8230;lighting for Dmovie&#8230;fantastic, altho I&#8217;m not a Dmovie fan&#8230;.I just bought D3X&#8230;</p>
<p>Re: D700x/s I&#8217;ve spoken to several parties in Australia, not the least Nikon Aust., because I want that res in a more mobile body for back up to D3X, and they&#8217;ve repeatedly told me, there is no plan to put 24mp FX sensor in D700 or any similar body&#8230;&#8217;any time soon&#8217;</p>
<p>Noone&#8217;s told me why&#8230;but seems in concrete.</p>
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		<title>By: Bonzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bonzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 23:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>4) Light weight super-tele primes – 200mm/f2.8, 400/f.4

Oh yeah, baby, bring it on! With VR!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>4) Light weight super-tele primes – 200mm/f2.8, 400/f.4</p>
<p>Oh yeah, baby, bring it on! With VR!</p>
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		<title>By: WoutK89</title>
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		<dc:creator>WoutK89</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and why on a 60mm macro? 200mm I can see why, longer focal length, equals more shake in normal focus conditions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and why on a 60mm macro? 200mm I can see why, longer focal length, equals more shake in normal focus conditions.</p>
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