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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 03:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>true</description>
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		<title>By: Zoetmb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zoetmb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 02:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the US, the numbers for other product types use different ranges.  For example, digital bodies use five digit numbers in the 25000 range, Flashes are all in the 4000 range.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the US, the numbers for other product types use different ranges.  For example, digital bodies use five digit numbers in the 25000 range, Flashes are all in the 4000 range.</p>
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		<title>By: mikeg76</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikeg76</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 01:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is subjective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is subjective.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 01:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will say that Nikon&#039;s website is way better than Canon&#039;s.  Check out the dedicated pages for any DSLR model, and the Nikon web presentation is far superior.

I do like the idea of making a product available the first day of its announcement, to capitalize on the rush of excitement.  Apple generally has done that and it&#039;s worked pretty well for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will say that Nikon&#8217;s website is way better than Canon&#8217;s.  Check out the dedicated pages for any DSLR model, and the Nikon web presentation is far superior.</p>
<p>I do like the idea of making a product available the first day of its announcement, to capitalize on the rush of excitement.  Apple generally has done that and it&#8217;s worked pretty well for them.</p>
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		<title>By: PHB</title>
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		<dc:creator>PHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 23:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can definitely see the motor going in the next full rev of the D90. But I would expect it to stay in the D300/D700 bodies for some time yet. 

Its not just a question of cost, that motor adds weight. Now on the magnesium bodies the extra weight is not so much of an issue, but on the plasticy bodies it is significant.

Now whether you consider the D300/D700 prosumer or professional seems to depend on whether you have a D3 or not. But I have seen far more amateurs with D3s than professionals and I have seen more ful-time professionals with D300s than D3s. So I somewhat doubt Nikon would do something silly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can definitely see the motor going in the next full rev of the D90. But I would expect it to stay in the D300/D700 bodies for some time yet. </p>
<p>Its not just a question of cost, that motor adds weight. Now on the magnesium bodies the extra weight is not so much of an issue, but on the plasticy bodies it is significant.</p>
<p>Now whether you consider the D300/D700 prosumer or professional seems to depend on whether you have a D3 or not. But I have seen far more amateurs with D3s than professionals and I have seen more ful-time professionals with D300s than D3s. So I somewhat doubt Nikon would do something silly.</p>
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		<title>By: PHB</title>
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		<dc:creator>PHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While Nikon often announces lenses at the launch of a camera, I don&#039;t seem much evidence of delaying the launch of a lens to come out with a camera. They launched the 14-24 with the D3, but that was pretty much a one off.

The D5000 came out with the 10-24, a lens that costs as much as the camera and is clearly aimed at the D90-D300 segment, not the D5000 crowd. The D300s came out with a lens where the chief change was that it was being optimized for FX frame!

The 35mm f/1.8 DX came completely out of the blue.

If Nikon has a lens ready, they will launch it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While Nikon often announces lenses at the launch of a camera, I don&#8217;t seem much evidence of delaying the launch of a lens to come out with a camera. They launched the 14-24 with the D3, but that was pretty much a one off.</p>
<p>The D5000 came out with the 10-24, a lens that costs as much as the camera and is clearly aimed at the D90-D300 segment, not the D5000 crowd. The D300s came out with a lens where the chief change was that it was being optimized for FX frame!</p>
<p>The 35mm f/1.8 DX came completely out of the blue.</p>
<p>If Nikon has a lens ready, they will launch it.</p>
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		<title>By: PHB</title>
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		<dc:creator>PHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because a 35mm f/1.8 FX lens would cost three times as much. If you look at Nikon&#039;s previous fast, wide angle lenses you can see that they required pretty exotic glass.

The 35mm DX lens is the normal equivalent for the DX sensor. Nikon has sold a ton of them and will sell many more.

Nikon has made it very clear that FX glass will continue to be pricey. They seem to think that people who buy a $2500 camera will pay for expensive glass. What a strange idea!

FX shooters made it pretty clear that their priority was a 70-200 zoom that didn&#039;t vignette.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because a 35mm f/1.8 FX lens would cost three times as much. If you look at Nikon&#8217;s previous fast, wide angle lenses you can see that they required pretty exotic glass.</p>
<p>The 35mm DX lens is the normal equivalent for the DX sensor. Nikon has sold a ton of them and will sell many more.</p>
<p>Nikon has made it very clear that FX glass will continue to be pricey. They seem to think that people who buy a $2500 camera will pay for expensive glass. What a strange idea!</p>
<p>FX shooters made it pretty clear that their priority was a 70-200 zoom that didn&#8217;t vignette.</p>
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		<title>By: PHB</title>
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		<dc:creator>PHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a point of fact, Nikon already has a 24-85mm FX zoom thats f/4. Now admittedly it is f/2.8 at the wide end, not f/4 throughout, but why on earth would anyone prefer a constant aperture f/4 to a f/2.8-4?

Nikon already has a lower cost 80-200 pro lens. Instead of giving up an f-stop, you give up VR. 

I think that it is pretty obvious what the &#039;missing&#039; lens numbers correspond to, they will simply be the corresponding AFS versions of the existing AF lenses in the catalog. The company has clearly decided to phase out the in-camera motor on the lower end bodies and that means they need to make all their existing range AFS.

Excluding the wide angle primes which are effectively made obsolete by zooms, there are six AF lenses in the catalog that do not have an AFS replacement already. There are eight holes in the series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a point of fact, Nikon already has a 24-85mm FX zoom thats f/4. Now admittedly it is f/2.8 at the wide end, not f/4 throughout, but why on earth would anyone prefer a constant aperture f/4 to a f/2.8-4?</p>
<p>Nikon already has a lower cost 80-200 pro lens. Instead of giving up an f-stop, you give up VR. </p>
<p>I think that it is pretty obvious what the &#8216;missing&#8217; lens numbers correspond to, they will simply be the corresponding AFS versions of the existing AF lenses in the catalog. The company has clearly decided to phase out the in-camera motor on the lower end bodies and that means they need to make all their existing range AFS.</p>
<p>Excluding the wide angle primes which are effectively made obsolete by zooms, there are six AF lenses in the catalog that do not have an AFS replacement already. There are eight holes in the series.</p>
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		<title>By: shivas</title>
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		<dc:creator>shivas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and nikon lenses are better than canon offerings anyway. . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and nikon lenses are better than canon offerings anyway. . .</p>
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		<title>By: hero</title>
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		<dc:creator>hero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>they aren&#039;t direct competitors in the lens market.  once you commit you can cross over.  I don&#039;t think that is a big deal</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they aren&#8217;t direct competitors in the lens market.  once you commit you can cross over.  I don&#8217;t think that is a big deal</p>
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		<title>By: Daf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah just spotted NR&#039;s comment :
&quot;the last part of the URL doesn’t really matter – it’s used for the product name&quot; re US no&#039;s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah just spotted NR&#8217;s comment :<br />
&#8220;the last part of the URL doesn’t really matter – it’s used for the product name&#8221; re US no&#8217;s</p>
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		<title>By: Daf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Had a look at doing something similar a while ago with the Nikon UK/Eu site.
Their URL&#039;s are easier to &quot;hack&quot; as the html file is always Overview.html

BUT the numbers are different. Wonder if they have different No&#039;s outside the US or if the numbers used in the UK/EU site are just something else unrelated.

E.g.
http://www.europe-nikon.com/product/en_GB/products/broad/1825/overview.html
AF-S NIKKOR 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR II (announced July, 2009)

http://www.europe-nikon.com/product/en_GB/products/broad/1680/overview.html
AF-S NIKKOR 50mm f/1.4G (announced September, 2008)

At the time of checking I went a couple of humdered No&#039;s in advance / in the gaps but found nothing interesting.

Note - these numbers also cover other nikon products also such as sports optics, coolpix, SLR bodies etc - not just lenses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Had a look at doing something similar a while ago with the Nikon UK/Eu site.<br />
Their URL&#8217;s are easier to &#8220;hack&#8221; as the html file is always Overview.html</p>
<p>BUT the numbers are different. Wonder if they have different No&#8217;s outside the US or if the numbers used in the UK/EU site are just something else unrelated.</p>
<p>E.g.<br />
<a href="http://www.europe-nikon.com/product/en_GB/products/broad/1825/overview.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.europe-nikon.com/product/en_GB/products/broad/1825/overview.html</a><br />
AF-S NIKKOR 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR II (announced July, 2009)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.europe-nikon.com/product/en_GB/products/broad/1680/overview.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.europe-nikon.com/product/en_GB/products/broad/1680/overview.html</a><br />
AF-S NIKKOR 50mm f/1.4G (announced September, 2008)</p>
<p>At the time of checking I went a couple of humdered No&#8217;s in advance / in the gaps but found nothing interesting.</p>
<p>Note &#8211; these numbers also cover other nikon products also such as sports optics, coolpix, SLR bodies etc &#8211; not just lenses.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikeg76</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikeg76</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They really need to do something with their pricing structure.  Nearly ever lens that Nikon makes where Canon has an equivelant is more expensive than Canon&#039;s version.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They really need to do something with their pricing structure.  Nearly ever lens that Nikon makes where Canon has an equivelant is more expensive than Canon&#8217;s version.</p>
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		<title>By: WoutK89</title>
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		<dc:creator>WoutK89</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 11:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or they just give potential 70-200 buyers the time to save some more money ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or they just give potential 70-200 buyers the time to save some more money <img src='http://nikonrumors.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: WoutK89</title>
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		<dc:creator>WoutK89</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 11:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maybe in the future, someday, or isnt that enough to know? :-P
I dont see it happening anytime soon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe in the future, someday, or isnt that enough to know? <img src='http://nikonrumors.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I dont see it happening anytime soon</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not there and very unlikely to appear...

- Nikon has a lot of DX standard zooms
- f/4 lenses are rare from Nikon, especially DX f/4 lenses (AFAIK, the only one is the 12-24/4)
- All zooms starting at 24mm are FX

So if it appears, it will not be DX for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not there and very unlikely to appear&#8230;</p>
<p>- Nikon has a lot of DX standard zooms<br />
- f/4 lenses are rare from Nikon, especially DX f/4 lenses (AFAIK, the only one is the 12-24/4)<br />
- All zooms starting at 24mm are FX</p>
<p>So if it appears, it will not be DX for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Hey-nonny-mouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hey-nonny-mouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 08:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Point taken on the 18-200 already being VRII, also I messed up with the 16-85 (not 17-85).  The point is there have been 8 consumer grade lenses covering wide angle to short/medium tele produced in recent years. For recent pro-grade gear nikon is only really offering lenses for $1.5k and up (as pointed out by somebody else).

If you&#039;re serious about photography but don&#039;t have a spare $5k lying around for lenses, or you want to go relatively light/unobtrusive (i.e. primes or f4 zoom) but still want highest image quality, then it&#039;s clear nikon is lagging in an important market segment.

Last point regarding giving casual shooters lots of choice.  For serious amateurs and  pros this is fine - they know what they need/want and that tends to be different specialist lenses for different types of photography.  Casual shooters don&#039;t necessarily know what they want/need and giving them too much choice can be a bad thing: http://www.ted.com/talks/barry_schwartz_on_the_paradox_of_choice.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Point taken on the 18-200 already being VRII, also I messed up with the 16-85 (not 17-85).  The point is there have been 8 consumer grade lenses covering wide angle to short/medium tele produced in recent years. For recent pro-grade gear nikon is only really offering lenses for $1.5k and up (as pointed out by somebody else).</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re serious about photography but don&#8217;t have a spare $5k lying around for lenses, or you want to go relatively light/unobtrusive (i.e. primes or f4 zoom) but still want highest image quality, then it&#8217;s clear nikon is lagging in an important market segment.</p>
<p>Last point regarding giving casual shooters lots of choice.  For serious amateurs and  pros this is fine &#8211; they know what they need/want and that tends to be different specialist lenses for different types of photography.  Casual shooters don&#8217;t necessarily know what they want/need and giving them too much choice can be a bad thing: <a href="http://www.ted.com/talks/barry_schwartz_on_the_paradox_of_choice.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ted.com/talks/barry_schwartz_on_the_paradox_of_choice.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: [NR] admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>[NR] admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 02:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for completing the list</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for completing the list</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nigel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 01:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nikon Claims to have lost so much money this last time around, and it would be to there advantage that when they announce a new product , that it is available immediately..not sometime later, having to wait these long period for it to hit the shelves may have some to change there minds about buying them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nikon Claims to have lost so much money this last time around, and it would be to there advantage that when they announce a new product , that it is available immediately..not sometime later, having to wait these long period for it to hit the shelves may have some to change there minds about buying them.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 01:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve often wondered if after everything is replaced with AF-S they will stop putting the screwdrive motor in the prosumer bodies.</description>
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