Comments on: Nikon related news/links

By: phentex

phentex — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 09:16:32 +0000

I’m surprised they wer aloud to make such an ad. The is definitive risk of epileptic seizure…

By: Edshan

Edshan — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 23:12:31 +0000

Thanks Admin and NR reader!
Is there anything else on the interview or was this the summary of the most important things and no more translation is needed?

either way, thankyou very much for the translation

By: Robin Edgar

Robin Edgar — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:25:12 +0000

Both “photo contests” are rights grabs. The Costco “rights grab” just happens to be worse that WWT’s rights grab. What part of -

each *entrant* grants a worldwide, irrevocable, perpetual *licence* to WWT to feature any or all of the submitted images in *any* of their *publications*, their *websites* and/or in any promotional material connected to this competition for a period of no more than five years.

do you not understand Anonymous?

That clause says that if you so much as enter the “contest” WWT can publish your photo any way they choose for up to five years without paying you a dime. Sure you still own the *rest* of the copyright in the photo but WWT can use it to illustrate their publications and websites for five years for free. Those usage rights, which might otherwise have cost them money, don’t cost them a dime now. . .

By: Robin Edgar

Robin Edgar — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:16:45 +0000

I think you are *understating* the problem with respect to this specific competition. . . Even though your comment acknowledges what I said.

Every single *entrant*, forget about contest “winners”. . . grants a worldwide, irrevocable, perpetual licence to WWT to feature any or all of the submitted images in any of their publications, their websites and/or in any promotional material connected to this competition for a period of no more than five years.

So if you enter the contest WWT can make unlimited use of your photo in their publications, and on their websites, for a five year period without paying a dime for doing so. That is a usage rights grab my friend.

By: dave

dave — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 18:33:08 +0000

This comes from lawyers trying to cover all bases regardless of intentions. Legal definitions are sometimes slightly different than accepted definitions, sometimes more restrictive, or sometimes more general, than one would normally think. Costco went to their lawyers 14 years ago and said, “give us some rules that ensure we can publish any of the photos, use them in advertising, or sell a coffee table book containing them without any financial obligation beyond the contest prizes. we also want to ensure that any of these pictures don’t end up in the hands of the competition.” And the legal department comes up with some ironclad rules that meet those requirements and then some. It is easier to be general and say, “all rights” than to spell out specific rights.

By: Derek Winchester

Derek Winchester — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 09:43:02 +0000

Seoul Sindorim Subway Station is one of the largest stations in Korea with daily passing population of five hundred thousand people. An outdoor light box equipped with a motion detector was installed at the connecting passageway at the station, along with a red carpet leading to the Nikon shop located in the mall. This interactive light box made people feel as though they became superstars walking down a red carpet for a luxurious award. This experience has created a very special and unique brand image of the Nikon D700 and succeeded in triggering purchase intentions. Strengthen a positive brand image of the Nikon D700 and maximize sales among passers by of Sindorim. Cheil did the job

work.canneslions.com/media/?award=4
A friend of mine found this Sindorim Subway Station hmm might have to go check it out if it is still there.

By: [NR] admin

[NR] admin — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 02:00:53 +0000

http://www.thecoolhunter.net/article/detail/1570/nikon-d700-guerrilla-style-billboard

“At a busy Seoul subway station”

By: [NR] admin

[NR] admin — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 01:57:53 +0000

Here is a quick translation I got from a reader:

Mr. Goto has established “Goto Laboratory” to develop new products in
Nikon Imaging company. I am interested in his comment on a small size
camera.

He thinks a small size camera we can always take around is needed. He
said that he would buy a certain mirror-less camera made by a certain
company if it had the “Nikon” logo, someone might reprove him saying
that though. It is far more lighter than D700, which he uses
regularly, and retains sufficient functions, he said. I suppose “A
certain mirror-less camera made by a certain company” he mentioned
must be the Olympus Pen E-P1.

Like compact digital cameras, mirror-less cameras will be averaged
soon he said. He thinks Nikon must not forget about photographs and
cameras are luxury things. Nikon needs to develop not a just small
camera but also a special featured one on some aspects for matured
people.

He also mentioned that single-lens reflex cameras are still going to
maintain main stream of Nikon camera products. Even if Nikon makes
mirror-less cameras, those will not be main products for a while.

By: Edshan

Edshan — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:12:42 +0000

Anyone who speaks Japanese here and would be kind enough to roughly translate the interview with Mr. Kotu Tetsurou? It would be very much appreciated.
It really sounds interesting:
- It speaks about the possibility of a mirror-less Nikon
- something about the Professional line being too heavy? (maybe the next ones will be lighter?)
- speaking about sensitivity? WB?
- “I also have a high hurdle for the use of mental age than the silver salt”?! WTF?!
- other things that sound interesting, but really, I got tired of reading the gibberish that Google translator produced…

So please Japanese speakers, give us a helping hand!

Thank you.

By: Mikael Willberg

Mikael Willberg — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 18:21:38 +0000

So they measured every camera with the same way and Nikon models were not treated differently than others ? I can’t find anything wrong with that. There are many situations that manufacturer tweak their numbers slighty (incorrect rounding) or they can be achieved only in some special situation and maybe only with some special accessories (FPS with battery grips comes to mind).

Also if they specifically said that they were comparing these as a kit and maybe mention that user can get different results with better lenses etc.

I’m not paying 250 SEK for the text to see what was actually said, also my swedish sucks big time

Mig

By: DrB

DrB — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 18:18:31 +0000

Yes, that’s a shocker. There’s no way I’d enter that…

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:28:38 +0000

Not a rights grab, now the Costco contest is another matter
Costco:
“By participating, entrant agrees that ownership of the entry and all intellectual property rights in the entry is assigned to Costco, and will do all things necessary to give effect to that assignment.. Entrant agrees to sign any further documentation required by Costco to give effect to this clause.”

By: Stevens

Stevens — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:18:29 +0000

I will second that. They obviously knew that D90 was a great hit, so they are just trying to gain attention to their website by spreading wrong information. D90 is a wonderful camera, better than the Cannon line up in the same class.

By: mattiask

mattiask — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 16:38:04 +0000

Rad & Ron used to be a great reference about products, but now there are so many other better options so I think in the general public Rad and Ron is loosing ground fast. This test is most likely designed to raise headline to increase the traffic to Rad and Ron’ s website. But anyone with an intact brain can tell the test is complete bullshit. For me this was an all time low for Rad and Ron and they have severely diminished my trust in them as a quality source of information. I feel embarrassed that this news is generated from sweden.

By: Jessica

Jessica — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 16:23:09 +0000

It should also be noted that R&R is not being totally correct when labelling the results. For example, they have one image as such: “Nikon D90, vignetting”. The D90 itself doesn’t vignette. What they are measuring here is the included lens, and thus they should stipulate that. If you wish to assess the quality of a *camera*, you must not introduce errors created by the *lens* unless said lens can not be changed. I’m to assume this is the problem that Nikon have with their testing.

The whole point of using 50mm primes to test DSLRs is that *every* system has a lens (or equivalent if you’re using a 4/3rds camera), and thus you’re testing the body and not the lens + body. You can not make an objective comparison of the quality of a DSLR vs another DSLR if you’re basing it on different lenses. Most of the kits were 18-55mm lens kits, I do not understand why R&R didn’t standardise on their testing procedures, and thus anything they say about the image quality of the body is incorrect.

By: Anders

Anders — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 16:14:20 +0000

Correction: R&R measured the actual picture size on all LCDs in the test. They did not include area where additional information could be shown. Nikon complained about that.

By: Jessica

Jessica — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 16:12:01 +0000

It should be noted that discussion of this contest appeared on a Nikon discussion list, of which Costco was contacted, and responded, indicating that it was the first time someone had raised the issue in the 14 years they’ve been running such competitions, and that they would look at re-writing the contest rules for next year.

By: Anders

Anders — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 15:59:28 +0000

Regarding Råd & Rön, you should really take a look at what Nikon complained about regarding the test of the D90 kit:
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.radron.se%2Ftemplates%2FArtikel____2523.aspx&sl=sv&tl=en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
Original page: http://www.radron.se/templates/Artikel____2523.aspx

Nikon has complained that Råd & Rön measured the weight of the kit (i.e. including lens, battery and memory card). Nikon thinks it’s unfair to include the battery in the weight.

They have complained about R&R writing that 12 212 224 pixels is 12.2M, not the 12.3M that Nikon claims.

Nikon has also complained about R&R just measuring the useful area of the LCD, not including the black area outside.

Nikon has also complained about R&R measuring timing (start up and lag) using the included kit lens, not using the 50mm prime that is so much faster…

By: DrB

DrB — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 14:47:08 +0000

I think you are overstating the problem with respect to this specific competition.

Copyright in the images stays with the entrant. It does not transfer to the competition organisers. The entrant still owns the photograph. There is therefore nothing misleading in the small print, as you seem to suggest.

What the organisers do get is a license to use the photos for five years. Significantly though, there are no sublicencing rights (i.e. the organisers cannot sell the photo on to third parties).

Costco can take a running jump though.

By: Derek Winchester

Derek Winchester — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 14:40:26 +0000

I would like to know where in KOrea that ad is as well. I live in Korea as well.