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	<title>Comments on: D60 replacement in &#8220;early August&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: kristupa saragih</title>
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		<dc:creator>kristupa saragih</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 01:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah that&#039;s all we need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah that&#8217;s all we need.</p>
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		<title>By: Lefty K. Monahan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lefty K. Monahan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“It is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma&quot; ... smothered in secret sauce.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“It is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma&#8221; &#8230; smothered in secret sauce.</p>
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		<title>By: Micah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Micah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 50d is about the same resolution with crappier high ISOs.  And it&#039;s slower (the d300 rattles off the frames like a mofo).

The d300 does actually best the competition in it&#039;s price range on pretty much everything except resolution, but images bear out that it has at least as much detail despite the 2-3mp lag behind the Canon and Pentax models.

A d800...now there&#039;s a gap.  A d700 with a d3x sensor would destroy the competition.  I almost wonder if Nikon is holding back on it to be nice to Canon/Sony.  No, really, would anybody have bought an A900 if Nikon made something similar for under a grand more?  I&#039;ve read articles about the Japanese tech companies consulting each other on when they are going to release stuff, out of courtesy.

Maybe we&#039;re watching the corporate version of professional wrestling and we don&#039;t even know it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 50d is about the same resolution with crappier high ISOs.  And it&#8217;s slower (the d300 rattles off the frames like a mofo).</p>
<p>The d300 does actually best the competition in it&#8217;s price range on pretty much everything except resolution, but images bear out that it has at least as much detail despite the 2-3mp lag behind the Canon and Pentax models.</p>
<p>A d800&#8230;now there&#8217;s a gap.  A d700 with a d3x sensor would destroy the competition.  I almost wonder if Nikon is holding back on it to be nice to Canon/Sony.  No, really, would anybody have bought an A900 if Nikon made something similar for under a grand more?  I&#8217;ve read articles about the Japanese tech companies consulting each other on when they are going to release stuff, out of courtesy.</p>
<p>Maybe we&#8217;re watching the corporate version of professional wrestling and we don&#8217;t even know it.</p>
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		<title>By: Micah</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2009/06/23/d60-replacement-in-early-august.aspx/comment-page-1#comment-26969</link>
		<dc:creator>Micah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wake me when it&#039;s over...</description>
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		<title>By: Biziclop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Biziclop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bet the &quot;new lens&quot; will be the long-awaited AF-S 18-55/3.5-5.6G DX ED III with a plastic mount, available as a kit lens only, permanently attached to the new D4000. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bet the &#8220;new lens&#8221; will be the long-awaited AF-S 18-55/3.5-5.6G DX ED III with a plastic mount, available as a kit lens only, permanently attached to the new D4000. <img src='http://nikonrumors.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: SLeiBt</title>
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		<dc:creator>SLeiBt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 10:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And for the (tiny) fraction that might be interested in trying out a fast prime, there is the 35mm f/1.8 af-s dx.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And for the (tiny) fraction that might be interested in trying out a fast prime, there is the 35mm f/1.8 af-s dx.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2009/06/23/d60-replacement-in-early-august.aspx/comment-page-1#comment-26961</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 05:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand it too, but their prices were already higher than the competition and now they&#039;re reaching levels where I just can&#039;t justify the high price. It seems weird to me to raise prices this much in an economic slowdown where people would have trouble buying their stuff at the old prices. Again, I do understand some price increases, but this is ridiculous. Why is Nikon&#039;s stuff more expensive than Canon&#039;s anyway? There must be a reason.  Is it just that they&#039;re a smaller company? Is that also why Canon has more lenses?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand it too, but their prices were already higher than the competition and now they&#8217;re reaching levels where I just can&#8217;t justify the high price. It seems weird to me to raise prices this much in an economic slowdown where people would have trouble buying their stuff at the old prices. Again, I do understand some price increases, but this is ridiculous. Why is Nikon&#8217;s stuff more expensive than Canon&#8217;s anyway? There must be a reason.  Is it just that they&#8217;re a smaller company? Is that also why Canon has more lenses?</p>
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		<title>By: Zabbu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zabbu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 03:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope the D4000 will not have the same body that looks like fatboy D5000...</description>
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		<title>By: Zoetmb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zoetmb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today&#039;s rate is 95.695, but that doesn&#039;t really matter.   What does matter is what the exchange rate is on the day that Nikon USA pays Nikon corporate for the equipment they buy from them.  It was over 98 a week or two ago.

Nikon is expecting the 2010 fiscal year (April 2009 to March 2010) to come in at 95 Yen average to the U.S. dollar.  2009 came in at 101 Yen, 2008 at 114 and 2007 at 120.163, so with today&#039;s rate, we&#039;re down over 20% from 2007.

I think the dollar would have to hit at least 105 Yen and stay there before you&#039;d see any discounts.  And I don&#039;t think Nikon would lower prices at that point, but they might offer rebates or simply might stop continually raising prices.   

I understand the reasons for the price increases and I understand that Nikon doesn&#039;t want market share that comes without margin, but lens prices are really starting to get ridiculous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today&#8217;s rate is 95.695, but that doesn&#8217;t really matter.   What does matter is what the exchange rate is on the day that Nikon USA pays Nikon corporate for the equipment they buy from them.  It was over 98 a week or two ago.</p>
<p>Nikon is expecting the 2010 fiscal year (April 2009 to March 2010) to come in at 95 Yen average to the U.S. dollar.  2009 came in at 101 Yen, 2008 at 114 and 2007 at 120.163, so with today&#8217;s rate, we&#8217;re down over 20% from 2007.</p>
<p>I think the dollar would have to hit at least 105 Yen and stay there before you&#8217;d see any discounts.  And I don&#8217;t think Nikon would lower prices at that point, but they might offer rebates or simply might stop continually raising prices.   </p>
<p>I understand the reasons for the price increases and I understand that Nikon doesn&#8217;t want market share that comes without margin, but lens prices are really starting to get ridiculous.</p>
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		<title>By: Bonzo</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2009/06/23/d60-replacement-in-early-august.aspx/comment-page-1#comment-26950</link>
		<dc:creator>Bonzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>please not 180mm!!! make it 200mm!! ;-)

180mm is totaly strange focal length and with tc&#039;s you loose againa

better 200mm/2.8</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please not 180mm!!! make it 200mm!! <img src='http://nikonrumors.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>180mm is totaly strange focal length and with tc&#8217;s you loose againa</p>
<p>better 200mm/2.8</p>
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		<title>By: twoomy</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2009/06/23/d60-replacement-in-early-august.aspx/comment-page-1#comment-26940</link>
		<dc:creator>twoomy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why does somebody always say that? &quot;It&quot; began long before this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does somebody always say that? &#8220;It&#8221; began long before this!</p>
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		<title>By: WoutK89</title>
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		<dc:creator>WoutK89</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who needs a 200/2.8, when the 200/4.0 is still to be updated to AF-s and probably with added VR?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who needs a 200/2.8, when the 200/4.0 is still to be updated to AF-s and probably with added VR?</p>
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		<title>By: rciu</title>
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		<dc:creator>rciu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if they did, you can&#039;t regret buying the 85 f/1.4.  It&#039;s just too beautiful a lens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if they did, you can&#8217;t regret buying the 85 f/1.4.  It&#8217;s just too beautiful a lens.</p>
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		<title>By: STJ</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2009/06/23/d60-replacement-in-early-august.aspx/comment-page-1#comment-26917</link>
		<dc:creator>STJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It might be that the 50mm AFS is a tad slower than the non AFS. But it is dead silent and has better optics (according to dpreview). So??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might be that the 50mm AFS is a tad slower than the non AFS. But it is dead silent and has better optics (according to dpreview). So??</p>
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		<title>By: Ubiquitous</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2009/06/23/d60-replacement-in-early-august.aspx/comment-page-1#comment-26910</link>
		<dc:creator>Ubiquitous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had the D40 and loved it until I got the D300.  Today, I cannot return to a D40/D90 form factor even though they are great cameras for their size and weight.  The biggest problem for me is the viewfinder, which is everything in a camera, imho.  I can control everything from the D300 viewfinder except WB.  In addition, the 100% view and brightness makes it impossible for me to even consider the D5000.  Even my D700 has 95% view and you never know what you get until after you see the photo.

The D300/D700 form factor is great for heavy lenses like the many of the zooms: 14-24, 24-70, 70-200 VR.  On the other hand, they are not that great for the AF-D primes: AF-D 24mm, 35mm, 50mm. These lenses, imho, are too small for these cameras.  In addition, the barrel turns when focusing making them difficult to get a good grip.  The D300/D700 need bigger AF-S mid-range primes. On the other hand, the AF-D mid-range primes are fantastic for the D40/D5K type of cameras, but these cameras do not come with a built- in motor.  OK, manual focus them – no focusing screen.

What is Nikon doing? Sitting on their hands to undo the runarounds they created.  They have introduced just one lens since the D40/D40x: the 35mm DX f/1.8. In fact, it is the only DX prime they ever came out with. 

The success of any camera/lens manufacturer is their whole system.  Some might prefer the DX 35mm f/1.8 while others the AF-S 35mm f/1.4 or even the AI-S 35mm f/1.4, if they were available.  You cannot go by what Nikon is doing: “If it sells, make it, and if it doesn’t, discontinue it.” You do not market lens by lens, but the whole system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the D40 and loved it until I got the D300.  Today, I cannot return to a D40/D90 form factor even though they are great cameras for their size and weight.  The biggest problem for me is the viewfinder, which is everything in a camera, imho.  I can control everything from the D300 viewfinder except WB.  In addition, the 100% view and brightness makes it impossible for me to even consider the D5000.  Even my D700 has 95% view and you never know what you get until after you see the photo.</p>
<p>The D300/D700 form factor is great for heavy lenses like the many of the zooms: 14-24, 24-70, 70-200 VR.  On the other hand, they are not that great for the AF-D primes: AF-D 24mm, 35mm, 50mm. These lenses, imho, are too small for these cameras.  In addition, the barrel turns when focusing making them difficult to get a good grip.  The D300/D700 need bigger AF-S mid-range primes. On the other hand, the AF-D mid-range primes are fantastic for the D40/D5K type of cameras, but these cameras do not come with a built- in motor.  OK, manual focus them – no focusing screen.</p>
<p>What is Nikon doing? Sitting on their hands to undo the runarounds they created.  They have introduced just one lens since the D40/D40x: the 35mm DX f/1.8. In fact, it is the only DX prime they ever came out with. </p>
<p>The success of any camera/lens manufacturer is their whole system.  Some might prefer the DX 35mm f/1.8 while others the AF-S 35mm f/1.4 or even the AI-S 35mm f/1.4, if they were available.  You cannot go by what Nikon is doing: “If it sells, make it, and if it doesn’t, discontinue it.” You do not market lens by lens, but the whole system.</p>
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		<title>By: rwpl</title>
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		<dc:creator>rwpl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol d300 has no competition (in this price range - what 50D :] no, k7 with 20D sensor ;] no), just like d700 ( and dont start with 5dii because its just not as good as it should be)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol d300 has no competition (in this price range &#8211; what 50D :] no, k7 with 20D sensor ;] no), just like d700 ( and dont start with 5dii because its just not as good as it should be)</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 08:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope Nikon will release a new DSLR with the D40 form factor. I love my D40 and I&#039;m fully satisfied with the results that I get with it. Unfortunetly it managed to preserve too many memories from my last months trip to Cuba - a black spot on the mirror and dust in the VF just to name a few. There&#039;s actually not much of that in pictures it bugs me however when I&#039;m taking them :-( And photography should be fun, wright?

That leads me to thoughts about getting a second body / replacement. I love the D40&#039;s form factor and as my hands aren&#039;t too large, I&#039;m not actually willing to get anything bigger - that includes D5000. So something with it&#039;s specs and the D40/D60 body would be just great!

However as many people are making wish lists here I&#039;d like to add my 5 cent. Me liking small size doesn&#039;t mean I wouldn&#039;t like better specs. I&#039;m through with my dream of a D40 with a revised 6 mpix sensor and the processing power of the D3. I think that would lead to 9 fps, almost noise free ISO 3200 at a 1000-1200 $ pricepoint but I accepted that it&#039;s not going to happen.

I still hope though, that the D3000/D4000 will not be the younger and poorer brother of the D5000 but an equal alternative concentrating on photography. I&#039;m talking larger VF (D300 size and quality would be superb but I might be asking too much), 5 or more fps, ISO range between 50-6400, second dial wheel up front, optional grip, maybe some kind of a built-in tilt flash (just like Panasonics L1 and LC1 used to have - there were some rumours about it) and a combined programm/ISO dial like on Canon&#039;s G10. What it doesn&#039;t need would be an articulating LCD, video, art filters and programs like portrait/landscape/etc. LiveView would be nice but not essential. Oh yeah, if it wasn&#039;t obviuos from my post - some kind of anti-dust.

Santa, if you read that, please talk to Nikon! Pretty please :-D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope Nikon will release a new DSLR with the D40 form factor. I love my D40 and I&#8217;m fully satisfied with the results that I get with it. Unfortunetly it managed to preserve too many memories from my last months trip to Cuba &#8211; a black spot on the mirror and dust in the VF just to name a few. There&#8217;s actually not much of that in pictures it bugs me however when I&#8217;m taking them <img src='http://nikonrumors.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' />  And photography should be fun, wright?</p>
<p>That leads me to thoughts about getting a second body / replacement. I love the D40&#8217;s form factor and as my hands aren&#8217;t too large, I&#8217;m not actually willing to get anything bigger &#8211; that includes D5000. So something with it&#8217;s specs and the D40/D60 body would be just great!</p>
<p>However as many people are making wish lists here I&#8217;d like to add my 5 cent. Me liking small size doesn&#8217;t mean I wouldn&#8217;t like better specs. I&#8217;m through with my dream of a D40 with a revised 6 mpix sensor and the processing power of the D3. I think that would lead to 9 fps, almost noise free ISO 3200 at a 1000-1200 $ pricepoint but I accepted that it&#8217;s not going to happen.</p>
<p>I still hope though, that the D3000/D4000 will not be the younger and poorer brother of the D5000 but an equal alternative concentrating on photography. I&#8217;m talking larger VF (D300 size and quality would be superb but I might be asking too much), 5 or more fps, ISO range between 50-6400, second dial wheel up front, optional grip, maybe some kind of a built-in tilt flash (just like Panasonics L1 and LC1 used to have &#8211; there were some rumours about it) and a combined programm/ISO dial like on Canon&#8217;s G10. What it doesn&#8217;t need would be an articulating LCD, video, art filters and programs like portrait/landscape/etc. LiveView would be nice but not essential. Oh yeah, if it wasn&#8217;t obviuos from my post &#8211; some kind of anti-dust.</p>
<p>Santa, if you read that, please talk to Nikon! Pretty please <img src='http://nikonrumors.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: WoutK89</title>
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		<dc:creator>WoutK89</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 06:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about the lens firmware added on the newest bodies, maybe that will fix the speed on the 50/1.4, so people will have to switch to a newer body for a faster focus?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the lens firmware added on the newest bodies, maybe that will fix the speed on the 50/1.4, so people will have to switch to a newer body for a faster focus?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 05:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what 12-24?</description>
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		<title>By: WoutK89</title>
		<link>http://nikonrumors.com/2009/06/23/d60-replacement-in-early-august.aspx/comment-page-1#comment-26883</link>
		<dc:creator>WoutK89</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 04:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope you meant 200 f4 micro</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope you meant 200 f4 micro</p>
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