Comments on: Nikon D300s poll http://nikonrumors.com/2009/05/29/nikon-d300s-poll.aspx/ where there’s smoke there’s fire Sun, 12 Feb 2012 18:53:44 +0000 hourly 1 By: Neogene http://nikonrumors.com/2009/05/29/nikon-d300s-poll.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-25517 Neogene Fri, 05 Jun 2009 07:01:01 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/?p=5221#comment-25517 Sony is the main provider for Nikon sensors and if you check in the Sony website, with the exception of a 24Mpixels camera, the only one model with a greater sensor than 12MPixel is the Sony α A380 with 14Mpixels, DX, probably the next nikon camera will have this sensor, they are releasing news sensors with a 2Mpixels "jump" every time. Sony is the main provider for Nikon sensors and if you check in the Sony website, with the exception of a 24Mpixels camera, the only one model with a greater sensor than 12MPixel is the Sony α A380 with 14Mpixels, DX, probably the next nikon camera will have this sensor, they are releasing news sensors with a 2Mpixels “jump” every time.

]]> By: [NR] admin http://nikonrumors.com/2009/05/29/nikon-d300s-poll.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-25275 [NR] admin Tue, 02 Jun 2009 03:24:00 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/?p=5221#comment-25275 anyway - I responded to Thom on dpreview: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1039&thread=31997285&page=1 anyway – I responded to Thom on dpreview:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1039&thread=31997285&page=1

]]> By: nuser http://nikonrumors.com/2009/05/29/nikon-d300s-poll.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-25251 nuser Tue, 02 Jun 2009 00:02:39 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/?p=5221#comment-25251 Why would I drool over something you have to go into enormous trouble to shoot since the tool you've used was not specifically designed to do it ? That would be like drooling over someone using a microscope as a replacement for a hammer and achieving good results in the process... I bet that the next generation of prosumer camcorders will use interchangeable lenses and larger sensors. Why would I drool over something you have to go into enormous trouble to shoot since the tool you’ve used was not specifically designed to do it ?
That would be like drooling over someone using a microscope as a replacement for a hammer and achieving good results in the process…
I bet that the next generation of prosumer camcorders will use interchangeable lenses and larger sensors.

]]> By: nuser http://nikonrumors.com/2009/05/29/nikon-d300s-poll.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-25250 nuser Mon, 01 Jun 2009 23:47:48 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/?p=5221#comment-25250 You're missing the point entirely. You're already carrying a DSLR, so you should be well beyond Coolpix. But you seem to be fine with an excuse for a real video solution and are ready to pay extra to have it in your still camera. Well, I'm not. You’re missing the point entirely.
You’re already carrying a DSLR, so you should be well beyond Coolpix.
But you seem to be fine with an excuse for a real video solution and are ready to pay extra to have it in your still camera.
Well, I’m not.

]]> By: nuser http://nikonrumors.com/2009/05/29/nikon-d300s-poll.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-25249 nuser Mon, 01 Jun 2009 23:45:39 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/?p=5221#comment-25249 I wasn't suggesting people to buy a tiny excuse for a camcorder. That would be a good comparison for a Coolpix, not for a D300 or even D700. Prosumer cameras are not quite that bad, although they still do have small sensors. Comparing DSLR video capability with professional video equipment is even less fair. All you can get with the video in your DSLR is a workaround, but it's still not a good tool for professional video. I don't think it benefits still shooters a lot (or at all) and it does add cost and complexity. I'd rather get a better still camera for my money than an add-on which I'll rarely (if ever) use. If Nikon or whoever makes a real camcorder which would accept F-mount lenses and doesn't cost me a leg an an arm, I'll be first in line. But until they do, I don't want to pay a penny more for a perfectly good still body just to have video on it... I wasn’t suggesting people to buy a tiny excuse for a camcorder.
That would be a good comparison for a Coolpix, not for a D300 or even D700.
Prosumer cameras are not quite that bad, although they still do have small sensors.
Comparing DSLR video capability with professional video equipment is even less fair.
All you can get with the video in your DSLR is a workaround, but it’s still not a good tool for professional video.
I don’t think it benefits still shooters a lot (or at all) and it does add cost and complexity.
I’d rather get a better still camera for my money than an add-on which I’ll rarely (if ever) use.
If Nikon or whoever makes a real camcorder which would accept F-mount lenses and doesn’t cost me a leg an an arm, I’ll be first in line.
But until they do, I don’t want to pay a penny more for a perfectly good still body just to have video on it…

]]> By: Jacob http://nikonrumors.com/2009/05/29/nikon-d300s-poll.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-25227 Jacob Mon, 01 Jun 2009 20:35:51 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/?p=5221#comment-25227 I can understand big-time Nikon enthusiasts concerned with the purity of their precious cameras. Fortunately, I'm not the person I just described. Give me video capabilities in the same enclosure as a great camera! To anyone who says they don't want their SLR to shoot video, how have you not drooled all over 5DmkII footage? Tell me your secret. I can understand big-time Nikon enthusiasts concerned with the purity of their precious cameras.

Fortunately, I’m not the person I just described. Give me video capabilities in the same enclosure as a great camera!

To anyone who says they don’t want their SLR to shoot video, how have you not drooled all over 5DmkII footage? Tell me your secret.

]]> By: Jamie http://nikonrumors.com/2009/05/29/nikon-d300s-poll.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-25123 Jamie Sun, 31 May 2009 23:15:42 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/?p=5221#comment-25123 I'm actually selling my D300 now, ready for when whatever it is going to be called is release. I already have a D700 and use my D300 as a 'run around' camera. Lately I have wanted to buy a video camera to stuff around with and if I can have an SLR and vidcam in one, all the better. :) I’m actually selling my D300 now, ready for when whatever it is going to be called is release. I already have a D700 and use my D300 as a ‘run around’ camera. Lately I have wanted to buy a video camera to stuff around with and if I can have an SLR and vidcam in one, all the better. :)

]]> By: Neogene http://nikonrumors.com/2009/05/29/nikon-d300s-poll.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-25091 Neogene Sun, 31 May 2009 07:27:55 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/?p=5221#comment-25091 I'm wating from years that nikons release a FF camera with at least 18MPixels with a nice price, i don't care about video, but with the release by Canon of the 5DMII i'm really tempted to by it, the only think that is still convincing me to wait is the hope that i'll get, i hope in a not so distant future, a new nikon body to use the beautifull Nikkor 14-24mm 2.8 for my landscape photos... I’m wating from years that nikons release a FF camera with at least 18MPixels with a nice price, i don’t care about video, but with the release by Canon of the 5DMII i’m really tempted to by it, the only think that is still convincing me to wait is the hope that i’ll get, i hope in a not so distant future, a new nikon body to use the beautifull Nikkor 14-24mm 2.8 for my landscape photos…

]]> By: [NR] admin http://nikonrumors.com/2009/05/29/nikon-d300s-poll.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-25082 [NR] admin Sun, 31 May 2009 03:58:01 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/?p=5221#comment-25082 yeah right - why didn't he write this before I posted the D300s specs? Now of course everybody knew about the D300s since last year... hilarious! yeah right – why didn’t he write this before I posted the D300s specs? Now of course everybody knew about the D300s since last year… hilarious!

]]> By: Quash http://nikonrumors.com/2009/05/29/nikon-d300s-poll.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-25081 Quash Sun, 31 May 2009 03:53:18 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/?p=5221#comment-25081 Thom Hogan wrote on DPReview 8 hours ago: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1039&thread=31966578&page=8 You know, when I wrote my predictions for the year back in November, I almost wrote D300s instead of D400. Something's been nagging me about the Dxxx line for awhile. It all evolves around whether you think the D200 was an anomaly or not. I'm beginning to think it was. Nikon really wants to keep the basic production of the Dxxx model going for four years if it can. What I'm hearing about what's being tested seems to be more D300s than D400. So, do I imply that the upcoming model is a D300s? Probably ;~) Thom Hogan wrote on DPReview 8 hours ago:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1039&thread=31966578&page=8

You know, when I wrote my predictions for the year back in November, I almost wrote D300s instead of D400. Something’s been nagging me about the Dxxx line for awhile. It all evolves around whether you think the D200 was an anomaly or not. I’m beginning to think it was. Nikon really wants to keep the basic production of the Dxxx model going for four years if it can. What I’m hearing about what’s being tested seems to be more D300s than D400. So, do I imply that the upcoming model is a D300s? Probably ;~)

]]> By: KevinR http://nikonrumors.com/2009/05/29/nikon-d300s-poll.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-25079 KevinR Sun, 31 May 2009 02:26:21 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/?p=5221#comment-25079 Is it really that hard to translate his text? After translating it, his comment is definitely a few notches above most of those who comment here. There is no rule that one must speak a certain language on any site. If that is what you desire, I hope that you never have a say in the direction of the Internet as that would remove one of the greatest parts of it; the ability to read the opinions of everyone. Is it really too much to ask you to have an open mind ON THE VASTLY OPEN INTERNET? Is it really that hard to translate his text? After translating it, his comment is definitely a few notches above most of those who comment here. There is no rule that one must speak a certain language on any site. If that is what you desire, I hope that you never have a say in the direction of the Internet as that would remove one of the greatest parts of it; the ability to read the opinions of everyone.

Is it really too much to ask you to have an open mind ON THE VASTLY OPEN INTERNET?

]]> By: KevinR http://nikonrumors.com/2009/05/29/nikon-d300s-poll.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-25077 KevinR Sun, 31 May 2009 02:08:38 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/?p=5221#comment-25077 Yeah, I am happy with my D1. Where is my option? In fact, I have some friends with some really old Nikon film cameras, can you include options for every Nikon ever made and every conceivable possible situation so that no one feels left out? Thanks. /sarcasm (for the sarcastically challenged) Yeah, I am happy with my D1. Where is my option? In fact, I have some friends with some really old Nikon film cameras, can you include options for every Nikon ever made and every conceivable possible situation so that no one feels left out? Thanks.

/sarcasm (for the sarcastically challenged)

]]> By: Ken Elliott http://nikonrumors.com/2009/05/29/nikon-d300s-poll.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-25046 Ken Elliott Sat, 30 May 2009 13:19:18 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/?p=5221#comment-25046 Video camcorders today have several issues. First, the sensor is so small that the depth of field is huge. Thus we can't do creative things like we can with our dSLRs. And if you think the step up from DX to FX was big, take a look at how tiny the camcorder sensors are. The difference is more like moving from a cheap digicam to a FX dSLR. They also suck at low light. The cheapest FX-sized video camera is the RED. You'll spend about US$17,500 for a body, and $9,975 for a 18-85mm lens, and still need a few more basic parts. You really need to spend about US$40,000 to US$50,000 to have a working setup. Can you see why having a sub US$2000 body that works with Nikon glass is of interest? The cost of adding this capability to a camera is next to nothing. If you don't want it, don't use it. The other big issue is that current camcorders are tiny, and difficult to hold. They are removing components like optical viewfinders, making them harder to hold, and difficult to use. This has been a big issue for me. Several times I went to purchase a HD camcorder and stopped because of the horrible controls, layout and size. I would much rather hold a dSLR. What I'd rather have is a add-on module for a D3/D700-type camera. The module would add video, storage, battery and XLR imputs (important). That would let me remove the module in places that don't allow video, or require different credentials. It would provide better video (at least it _should_), professional inputs, and not compromise the camera for still shooters. A D3 plus video module should get pretty close to RED performance at a fraction of the price. Of course, Nikon could just make a F-mount camcorder and be done with it. Video camcorders today have several issues. First, the sensor is so small that the depth of field is huge. Thus we can’t do creative things like we can with our dSLRs. And if you think the step up from DX to FX was big, take a look at how tiny the camcorder sensors are. The difference is more like moving from a cheap digicam to a FX dSLR. They also suck at low light.

The cheapest FX-sized video camera is the RED. You’ll spend about US$17,500 for a body, and $9,975 for a 18-85mm lens, and still need a few more basic parts. You really need to spend about US$40,000 to US$50,000 to have a working setup. Can you see why having a sub US$2000 body that works with Nikon glass is of interest? The cost of adding this capability to a camera is next to nothing. If you don’t want it, don’t use it.

The other big issue is that current camcorders are tiny, and difficult to hold. They are removing components like optical viewfinders, making them harder to hold, and difficult to use. This has been a big issue for me. Several times I went to purchase a HD camcorder and stopped because of the horrible controls, layout and size. I would much rather hold a dSLR.

What I’d rather have is a add-on module for a D3/D700-type camera. The module would add video, storage, battery and XLR imputs (important). That would let me remove the module in places that don’t allow video, or require different credentials. It would provide better video (at least it _should_), professional inputs, and not compromise the camera for still shooters. A D3 plus video module should get pretty close to RED performance at a fraction of the price.

Of course, Nikon could just make a F-mount camcorder and be done with it.

]]> By: DrB http://nikonrumors.com/2009/05/29/nikon-d300s-poll.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-25042 DrB Sat, 30 May 2009 10:34:35 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/?p=5221#comment-25042 Obviously, I meant the latter, not the former ;-) Obviously, I meant the latter, not the former ;-)

]]> By: DrB http://nikonrumors.com/2009/05/29/nikon-d300s-poll.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-25041 DrB Sat, 30 May 2009 10:32:45 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/?p=5221#comment-25041 I'm also completely disinterested by the concept of video on a DSLR. Squeezing this functionality into a platform that was never intended to accomodate it must inevitably lead to design compromises. If in future I have a choice between a camera having video and a camera not having video, I'll take the former. Trouble is, I suspect within 5 years, it will be difficult to find a new model that omits video. The D300 was a real ground breaker when it was released, outstripping the performace not only of it's predecessor the D200, but also of *any* previous Nikon DSLR, including the D2x. Compare that with the meager improvements offered by the rumoured D300s and you'll see that (for existing D300 owners at least) it's not really worth the cost of the upgrade. If you still feel the urge, perhaps it's just NAS speaking! I’m also completely disinterested by the concept of video on a DSLR. Squeezing this functionality into a platform that was never intended to accomodate it must inevitably lead to design compromises. If in future I have a choice between a camera having video and a camera not having video, I’ll take the former. Trouble is, I suspect within 5 years, it will be difficult to find a new model that omits video.

The D300 was a real ground breaker when it was released, outstripping the performace not only of it’s predecessor the D200, but also of *any* previous Nikon DSLR, including the D2x. Compare that with the meager improvements offered by the rumoured D300s and you’ll see that (for existing D300 owners at least) it’s not really worth the cost of the upgrade. If you still feel the urge, perhaps it’s just NAS speaking!

]]> By: Anonymous http://nikonrumors.com/2009/05/29/nikon-d300s-poll.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-25011 Anonymous Fri, 29 May 2009 23:10:25 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/?p=5221#comment-25011 I don't really get it either, why all of a sudden is video such a critical feature in a stills camera? Hardly a reason to lose sleep over if video is omitted, especially if the principle use is for photography. I don’t really get it either, why all of a sudden is video such a critical feature in a stills camera? Hardly a reason to lose sleep over if video is omitted, especially if the principle use is for photography.

]]> By: 10to20 http://nikonrumors.com/2009/05/29/nikon-d300s-poll.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-25004 10to20 Fri, 29 May 2009 22:46:55 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/?p=5221#comment-25004 That's me. I have a D40 and have been waiting for this exact camera. I didn't jump on the D300 because of no video, or the D5000/D90 because of features. This is the one I want. That’s me. I have a D40 and have been waiting for this exact camera. I didn’t jump on the D300 because of no video, or the D5000/D90 because of features. This is the one I want.

]]> By: 10to20 http://nikonrumors.com/2009/05/29/nikon-d300s-poll.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-25003 10to20 Fri, 29 May 2009 22:43:48 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/?p=5221#comment-25003 This is just the camera I've been wanting. All the goodness of a D300, but with video added. Family vacations will be easier, no SLR and Camcorder to juggle. I want the extra features that the D300 has over both the D5000 and D90. I doubt there will be any more DSLRs without any video modes. Maybe one or 2 more that may already be in the pipleline and ready for production, but that's it. This is just the camera I’ve been wanting. All the goodness of a D300, but with video added. Family vacations will be easier, no SLR and Camcorder to juggle. I want the extra features that the D300 has over both the D5000 and D90. I doubt there will be any more DSLRs without any video modes. Maybe one or 2 more that may already be in the pipleline and ready for production, but that’s it.

]]> By: Char http://nikonrumors.com/2009/05/29/nikon-d300s-poll.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-24986 Char Fri, 29 May 2009 20:00:16 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/?p=5221#comment-24986 What about "I am waiting for a D700x, but for the pixels, I give a shit about video"? What about “I am waiting for a D700x, but for the pixels, I give a shit about video”?

]]> By: Char http://nikonrumors.com/2009/05/29/nikon-d300s-poll.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-24985 Char Fri, 29 May 2009 19:58:59 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/?p=5221#comment-24985 What about the D40-Users that will upgrade to the D5000-Line? To the D90-Line? What about me, D80-User, that will probably one day upgrade to a D700? No option there, either. What about the D40-Users that will upgrade to the D5000-Line? To the D90-Line? What about me, D80-User, that will probably one day upgrade to a D700? No option there, either.

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