Comments on: The end of the Nikon D3x rumor mill and what’s next

By: rhlpetrus

rhlpetrus — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 23:54:45 +0000

My guess: DX50 or DX10, depending on level intended. Released for PMA 2009 (late January).

Lenses, who knows?

MX: forget it.

By: Jason

Jason — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:24:30 +0000

We don’t know. But overestimation of one’s own capabilities is not unique to nikonrumors.com, we have seen that on other websites like dpreview.com before.

By: PHB

PHB — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 13:45:55 +0000

Nothing is ever confirmed until the product comes out.

Plans can change.

By: Ron

Ron — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 06:02:08 +0000

No Worrie’s… As stated “What Could You Do” At least I’m on the top of the list if/when the new lens come out

By: [NR] admin

[NR] admin — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 05:16:25 +0000

I am telling you the facts, as it happened. You draw your own conclusions and let me draw my own. Are we cool?

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 05:03:49 +0000

oh yes…Nikon waits with baited breath to see what this site does next and of course, changes their entire web and print campaign costing untold thousands! Get over yourself dude! Most of what is posted here is uh…well rumors! You can hardly call the few times you guess correct a new market trend…what B.S.

By: [NR] admin

[NR] admin — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 02:59:13 +0000

sorry – I remember that: multiple sources sent me the same wrong information in short period of time. One of them has always been right before. What could I do? This is what trigger this new percentage indication – it is much better than “confirmed”.

By: Ron

Ron — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 02:53:55 +0000

“…and next time when I say that I am 90% sure – believe me ”

I did. Prior to Photokina this year your site indicated “Confirmed” on new 70-200 2.8 and 85 1.4. I had just purchased both of those lens the week prior to your “Report” and have still yet to use my in store credit minus 10% restocking fee being I returned both based on your “Confirmed” status.

By: Patrick Smith

Patrick Smith — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 02:47:19 +0000

How do you think prices will fall (D700 and D3) after the release of the D3X?

By: Pablov

Pablov — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 00:43:34 +0000

Was the D3x planned to be announced (or released) on March 2009 ?
Was this the “Big” thing ?
it’s possible to consider this was the DSLR to be launched at hat event aimed to portraits, weedings, etc

I guess Nikon hurried this up. Maybe competition, strategy or whatever.
Although there was a firmware containing 24+ MP code since long ago for a D3… That makes me think this camera -D3x- has been planned since long ago (and probably already being manufactured)

That would also explain the lack of “new” features besides the higher res sensor. Seems to be almost a D3 with just higher MP.

And now what?
some respectable people telling about DSLR with video at a forum?

“Nikon predictions” seems confusing to me.
1st there was NO more new DSLR this year….
Later some telling about new features in a new DSLR…

hmmmm

By: PHB

PHB — Sat, 29 Nov 2008 20:54:40 +0000

Now one thing that has interested me for some time is the possibility of adding a global electronic shutter to a DSLR. There are several reasons for doing this that would affect the bottom end of the range.

The post got too involved so I threw it onto my own blog.

http://dotfuturemanifesto.blogspot.com/2008/11/more-nikon-speculation-global-eletronic.html

By: PHB

PHB — Sat, 29 Nov 2008 20:30:52 +0000

I can see using DF instead of FX and DX. But the main attraction would be so that the new camera could continue the ‘D’ flagship numbering scheme as the ‘DF3′.

By: PHB

PHB — Sat, 29 Nov 2008 20:26:33 +0000

I have been thinking we might see something of the sort as well. Which might be why Thom and others have suggested that the D3x is not going to be called that.

Setting out a number scheme is a good way to set out a product roadmap. But I don’t think that we would see anything quite that logical.

For a start, I think that the new camera would be the FX3, not the FX1.

The priority I would see in such a scheme would be that the DX and FX versions of the same body would have the same number.

So I don’t think we will see a DX-n series used at all. Which means that either the mid and budget ranges will have to share a number range again (cf D50/D70) or there will have to be a fourth number range which would be thousands.

I can actually see the budget range being DX10, the mid DX100 and the pro DX1000, I am afraid. That would mean that the successor to the D90 would be the DX100 which is logical. And same for the D300 to DX1000. The successor to the D60 is the DX10, but that is actually a plus when you are trying to reel folk in with a budget, cost conscious model.

I would see the next year as being a good time to make such a change. It would mean that they can start the numbering scheme with a flagship model.

They can then simply renumber the D300 and D700 series cameras as existing supplies run out, same for the D90.

By: Chevypower

Chevypower — Sat, 29 Nov 2008 19:58:14 +0000

I think DX1, DX10, DX100, DX1000
DF1, DF10, DF100, DF1000
DM1, DM10, DM100, DM1000

This would keep it consistent with Digital = D prefix, but allow Nikon to go a new direction. Starting with F could cause confusion with the film format. They could still keep the suffixes X, H, Z for updated variations

By: Pablov

Pablov — Sat, 29 Nov 2008 18:10:26 +0000

yes, naming is becoming a trouble.

Specifically for the Dxx line

The other (Dxxx and Dx) could continue without problems because they won’t overlap

By: Klaas

Klaas — Sat, 29 Nov 2008 17:26:29 +0000

Naming of future Nikons will be more and more a difficult job. What to do in the Dxx for exemple?

Wouldn’t it be easier to start a new system of naming?
FX 1 and so on (FX format pro level)
FX 10 and so on (FX prosumer)

DX 1 aso for professional DX format (D300 family)
DX 10 aso for prosumer DX format (D90 famlily)
DX 100 aso consumer family (D40 family)

MX for midformat

By: Chevypower

Chevypower — Sat, 29 Nov 2008 17:07:15 +0000

D100 image sensor filtered down to the D40. D2x, went to D300, D90, and supposedly now D60x? D3 sensor went to D700 – what next? I don’t think that one will continue – but I could be wrong. D3x to D800 to D90x to D65? Or whatever they will be called.

By: Obscula

Obscula — Sat, 29 Nov 2008 17:04:15 +0000

I doubt Nikon pays any attention to what happens on this website.

I would believe that it was an accident on their part. They may have notices some file hits from the outside.

By: PHB

PHB — Sat, 29 Nov 2008 17:01:57 +0000

Sales of DSLRs are expected to be sharply down this year due to the B**h fiscal crisis. Circuit City has gone Ch 11 already and Sears and Macys may follow after Xmas. We are also going to see a large number of smaller specialist photo stores fail.

That is actually one reason I am expecting a high markup on the D3x – Nikon is not going to want to risk a huge amount of capital on building a large number in advance. So they will be scarce. They may well allow the dealers to take large margins to help keep them in business.

I don’t expect there to be a problem with inventory of pro/prosumer cameras (D300 and up). And the D90 is a brand new design good for at least a year. Whether there is a new D60 will depend on the amount of unsold stock they have on hand. My guess would be that the factories were making the D60 run in July ahead of the D90 run in August.

Needless to say we will not see a new D60 if there are a hundred thousand D60s siting unsold in a warehouse. I don’t think that the entry level is going to be driven by megapixel madness for quite a while. The D60 is all about capturing market share that can be upsold with more lenses and new bodies later on.

Besides which, any new budget model would surely be introduced to take the Xmas 2009 market which means not before August 2009.

By: Lars

Lars — Sat, 29 Nov 2008 16:41:16 +0000

Nah, the leaks this last week were accidental – simply because Nikon would have so little to gain from building expectations this late. With all that is going on around Monday’s launch event it’s surprising and impressive that there have not been more leaks. Not even Apple is this tight-lipped.

OTOH if images and specs on D3x were leaked in a reliable way the day before 5DII or A900 was announced, then I would agree with you.