Comments on: Nikon press conference got moved to November 20th, now a world-wide event http://nikonrumors.com/2008/10/14/nikon-press-conference-got-moved-to-november-20th-now-a-world-wide-event.aspx where there’s smoke there’s fire Thu, 18 Mar 2010 20:08:10 -0400 hourly 1 By: World wide Nikon event on November 20 | Nikon Rumors http://nikonrumors.com/2008/10/14/nikon-press-conference-got-moved-to-november-20th-now-a-world-wide-event.aspx/comment-page-1#comment-8760 World wide Nikon event on November 20 | Nikon Rumors Tue, 04 Nov 2008 03:36:15 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/http:/nikonrumors.com/2008/10/14/nikon-press-conference-got-moved-to-november-20th-now-a-world-wide-event.aspx#comment-8760 [...] Rumors chatter started to pick up in anticipation of the world wide Nikon event on November 20. [...] [...] Rumors chatter started to pick up in anticipation of the world wide Nikon event on November 20. [...]

]]> By: Stephen Favetti http://nikonrumors.com/2008/10/14/nikon-press-conference-got-moved-to-november-20th-now-a-world-wide-event.aspx/comment-page-1#comment-8347 Stephen Favetti Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:56:20 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/http:/nikonrumors.com/2008/10/14/nikon-press-conference-got-moved-to-november-20th-now-a-world-wide-event.aspx#comment-8347 The funniest part about all of this is how almost everybody that's posted negatively about Nikon so far has been bashing the video features on cameras; the format, the quality, the mechanisms. It's a digital single lens reflex camera. It is not a motion picture camera. Cinematography and photography are two completely different industries, art forms, and processes. They require completely different standards. Every last one of you should be grateful that Nikon is entertaining you cheap morons by incorporating video features onto their photography cameras. Nikon makes, 150% photography equipment. They have spent years designing every lens, every body, every new technological advancement they've had for PHOTOGRAPHY, not CINEMATOGRAPHY. Go buy a real video camera and stop bitching about them adding worthless features to a DSLR. Yes, taking video is worthless on a DSLR. Buy a point and shoot or buy a video camera, but stop talking shit about Nikon because they aren't making these features to your standards. To be honest, you're the cop outs, not Nikon. They're doing your job, you're just too cheap to do yours properly. Stephen Favetti The funniest part about all of this is how almost everybody that’s posted negatively about Nikon so far has been bashing the video features on cameras; the format, the quality, the mechanisms. It’s a digital single lens reflex camera. It is not a motion picture camera.

Cinematography and photography are two completely different industries, art forms, and processes. They require completely different standards.

Every last one of you should be grateful that Nikon is entertaining you cheap morons by incorporating video features onto their photography cameras.

Nikon makes, 150% photography equipment. They have spent years designing every lens, every body, every new technological advancement they’ve had for PHOTOGRAPHY, not CINEMATOGRAPHY.

Go buy a real video camera and stop bitching about them adding worthless features to a DSLR. Yes, taking video is worthless on a DSLR. Buy a point and shoot or buy a video camera, but stop talking shit about Nikon because they aren’t making these features to your standards. To be honest, you’re the cop outs, not Nikon. They’re doing your job, you’re just too cheap to do yours properly.

Stephen Favetti

]]> By: Nikon D3x (D4) available by February next year according to a German forum | Nikon Rumors http://nikonrumors.com/2008/10/14/nikon-press-conference-got-moved-to-november-20th-now-a-world-wide-event.aspx/comment-page-1#comment-8285 Nikon D3x (D4) available by February next year according to a German forum | Nikon Rumors Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:54:14 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/http:/nikonrumors.com/2008/10/14/nikon-press-conference-got-moved-to-november-20th-now-a-world-wide-event.aspx#comment-8285 [...] is interesting because it matches the November 20th event and the BIG February announcement. This entry was posted in Uncategorized. Bookmark the [...] [...] is interesting because it matches the November 20th event and the BIG February announcement. This entry was posted in Uncategorized. Bookmark the [...]

]]> By: Alex Richardson http://nikonrumors.com/2008/10/14/nikon-press-conference-got-moved-to-november-20th-now-a-world-wide-event.aspx/comment-page-1#comment-8192 Alex Richardson Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:43:35 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/http:/nikonrumors.com/2008/10/14/nikon-press-conference-got-moved-to-november-20th-now-a-world-wide-event.aspx#comment-8192 This annoucemnet is going to be the new Nikon digital (EV)rangefinder thats been touted, something that would appeal to the more advanced 'coolpix shooter and fashion photographers' alike. This leaves room for the MX annoucement in February/March of a 32x48mm sensor DSLR camera. There may well be an upgrade path for the Nikon d3 to D3X sensor. Stay tuned! This annoucemnet is going to be the new Nikon digital (EV)rangefinder thats been touted, something that would appeal to the more advanced ‘coolpix shooter and fashion photographers’ alike.

This leaves room for the MX annoucement in February/March of a 32×48mm sensor DSLR camera.

There may well be an upgrade path for the Nikon d3 to D3X sensor.

Stay tuned!

]]> By: sloma_p http://nikonrumors.com/2008/10/14/nikon-press-conference-got-moved-to-november-20th-now-a-world-wide-event.aspx/comment-page-1#comment-71 sloma_p Fri, 17 Oct 2008 00:21:21 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/http:/nikonrumors.com/2008/10/14/nikon-press-conference-got-moved-to-november-20th-now-a-world-wide-event.aspx#comment-71 Exactly at which points 5D MkII "outperforms" the D700 apart from resolution and video feature? It's still an old 5D with a 1Ds MkIII sensor and better LCD - basically an mid-level body with high-end sensor. There's a reason Canon is charging $8000 for 1Ds MkIII you know... On the other hand I'm not sure why everybody says anything about 5D MkII IQ when it's not been properly tested yet... It seams that on Internet everybody has at least 10 pro Nikon lenses and few bodies and is "going to switch if Nikon doesn't release high-res body" - good luck with spending loads of money on this "switching", then even more on computer upgrade, so you can PP those huge files, new memory cards and buying new A2+ capable printer so you would be able to see the difference between Nikon 12MP FF sensor and Canon's 21MP one (and that only up to ISO640)... Unless you're so "pro" that looking at your screen at 200% is enough to justify spenditure...<br /><br />Regards,<br /><br />Pete Exactly at which points 5D MkII “outperforms” the D700 apart from resolution and video feature? It’s still an old 5D with a 1Ds MkIII sensor and better LCD – basically an mid-level body with high-end sensor. There’s a reason Canon is charging $8000 for 1Ds MkIII you know… On the other hand I’m not sure why everybody says anything about 5D MkII IQ when it’s not been properly tested yet… It seams that on Internet everybody has at least 10 pro Nikon lenses and few bodies and is “going to switch if Nikon doesn’t release high-res body” – good luck with spending loads of money on this “switching”, then even more on computer upgrade, so you can PP those huge files, new memory cards and buying new A2+ capable printer so you would be able to see the difference between Nikon 12MP FF sensor and Canon’s 21MP one (and that only up to ISO640)… Unless you’re so “pro” that looking at your screen at 200% is enough to justify spenditure…

Regards,

Pete

]]> By: raio http://nikonrumors.com/2008/10/14/nikon-press-conference-got-moved-to-november-20th-now-a-world-wide-event.aspx/comment-page-1#comment-70 raio Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:29:46 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/http:/nikonrumors.com/2008/10/14/nikon-press-conference-got-moved-to-november-20th-now-a-world-wide-event.aspx#comment-70 It sounds that the Canon D5 Mk II is a hard competitor for Nikon. It outperforms the new D700 in most points, even in price what is important for many amateurs. I don´t understand the slowliness of Nikon in bringing out leading cameras. If I wouln´t have more than 10 lenses and 4 bodies it would be hard for me to stay with Nikon. But the international press conference seems to bring "good news" for us; they never placed a new model at Photokina! It was always later in the year. On the other hand "Financial Times Germany" brought an article, that Nikon sales got up more than those of Canon and they sell 20 % to the professional market (today D300 up to D3) and many Canon people come back because of the bad AF-module of the D1s Mk III. So let´s wait, but it´s becoming harder and harder to wait ... It sounds that the Canon D5 Mk II is a hard competitor for Nikon. It outperforms the new D700 in most points, even in price what is important for many amateurs. I don´t understand the slowliness of Nikon in bringing out leading cameras. If I wouln´t have more than 10 lenses and 4 bodies it would be hard for me to stay with Nikon. But the international press conference seems to bring “good news” for us; they never placed a new model at Photokina! It was always later in the year. On the other hand “Financial Times Germany” brought an article, that Nikon sales got up more than those of Canon and they sell 20 % to the professional market (today D300 up to D3) and many Canon people come back because of the bad AF-module of the D1s Mk III. So let´s wait, but it´s becoming harder and harder to wait …

]]> By: dan http://nikonrumors.com/2008/10/14/nikon-press-conference-got-moved-to-november-20th-now-a-world-wide-event.aspx/comment-page-1#comment-69 dan Thu, 16 Oct 2008 01:54:37 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/http:/nikonrumors.com/2008/10/14/nikon-press-conference-got-moved-to-november-20th-now-a-world-wide-event.aspx#comment-69 Sorry poe's law is always in effect. i have read some crazy things before and the people always seemed sincere about their craziness. <br /><br />i should buys a sarcasm detector. :) Sorry poe’s law is always in effect. i have read some crazy things before and the people always seemed sincere about their craziness.

i should buys a sarcasm detector. :)

]]> By: Pablov http://nikonrumors.com/2008/10/14/nikon-press-conference-got-moved-to-november-20th-now-a-world-wide-event.aspx/comment-page-1#comment-68 Pablov Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:39:37 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/http:/nikonrumors.com/2008/10/14/nikon-press-conference-got-moved-to-november-20th-now-a-world-wide-event.aspx#comment-68 really nice done movie.<br /><br />it doesn't show the bending effect because there is no tall (ie. top to bottom of the image) vertical line/object passing fast from one side to another of the frame.<br /><br />It also shows the autoexposure way the D90 Movie works (a pitty, indeed :( )<br /><br />But it also shows the Potential of creative people, and the fact that Movie mode will be improved, implemented in future DSLRs because more people will use it, professionally or not, that's up to the user really nice done movie.

it doesn’t show the bending effect because there is no tall (ie. top to bottom of the image) vertical line/object passing fast from one side to another of the frame.

It also shows the autoexposure way the D90 Movie works (a pitty, indeed :( )

But it also shows the Potential of creative people, and the fact that Movie mode will be improved, implemented in future DSLRs because more people will use it, professionally or not, that’s up to the user

]]> By: Pablov http://nikonrumors.com/2008/10/14/nikon-press-conference-got-moved-to-november-20th-now-a-world-wide-event.aspx/comment-page-1#comment-67 Pablov Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:25:17 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/http:/nikonrumors.com/2008/10/14/nikon-press-conference-got-moved-to-november-20th-now-a-world-wide-event.aspx#comment-67 even turning VR off gets you rolling shutter effect, bending vertical lines.<br /><br />That's because the way the sensor is read in Movie mode, not by any vibration reduction system.<br /><br />If the sensor is read with a horizontal scanning method, line per line, then it will deliver such effect when fast moving vertical objects pass in front of it<br /><br />The only way to avoid it is lighting fast scanning speed (thus less light capturing would be achieved) or another way to read the data (best option) even turning VR off gets you rolling shutter effect, bending vertical lines.

That’s because the way the sensor is read in Movie mode, not by any vibration reduction system.

If the sensor is read with a horizontal scanning method, line per line, then it will deliver such effect when fast moving vertical objects pass in front of it

The only way to avoid it is lighting fast scanning speed (thus less light capturing would be achieved) or another way to read the data (best option)

]]> By: Pablov http://nikonrumors.com/2008/10/14/nikon-press-conference-got-moved-to-november-20th-now-a-world-wide-event.aspx/comment-page-1#comment-66 Pablov Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:13:58 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/http:/nikonrumors.com/2008/10/14/nikon-press-conference-got-moved-to-november-20th-now-a-world-wide-event.aspx#comment-66 That is not very well known yet, untill a production camera full review can be made... then compared to D700's shots That is not very well known yet, untill a production camera full review can be made… then compared to D700’s shots

]]> By: I-Want-To-Believe http://nikonrumors.com/2008/10/14/nikon-press-conference-got-moved-to-november-20th-now-a-world-wide-event.aspx/comment-page-1#comment-65 I-Want-To-Believe Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:37:48 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/http:/nikonrumors.com/2008/10/14/nikon-press-conference-got-moved-to-november-20th-now-a-world-wide-event.aspx#comment-65 Hey Dan, noticed the smiley and the sarcastic/ironic tone?<br />Of course Macs play AVIs, and every imaginable format, so do Win PCs.<br />The fact that this is a non issue is what makes it funny. :) Hey Dan, noticed the smiley and the sarcastic/ironic tone?
Of course Macs play AVIs, and every imaginable format, so do Win PCs.
The fact that this is a non issue is what makes it funny. :)

]]> By: hum@no.id http://nikonrumors.com/2008/10/14/nikon-press-conference-got-moved-to-november-20th-now-a-world-wide-event.aspx/comment-page-1#comment-64 hum@no.id Wed, 15 Oct 2008 12:38:09 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/http:/nikonrumors.com/2008/10/14/nikon-press-conference-got-moved-to-november-20th-now-a-world-wide-event.aspx#comment-64 D90 video, shot with Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8 and Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8<br /><br />full-fledged videoclip - <a href="http://vimeo.com/1946676" rel="nofollow">http://vimeo.com/1946676</a> D90 video, shot with Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8 and Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8

full-fledged videoclip – http://vimeo.com/1946676

]]> By: hum@no.id http://nikonrumors.com/2008/10/14/nikon-press-conference-got-moved-to-november-20th-now-a-world-wide-event.aspx/comment-page-1#comment-63 hum@no.id Wed, 15 Oct 2008 12:36:05 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/http:/nikonrumors.com/2008/10/14/nikon-press-conference-got-moved-to-november-20th-now-a-world-wide-event.aspx#comment-63 >>"rolling shutter" effect <br /><br />OFF the VR mode - get classical motion blur cinema FX >>”rolling shutter” effect

OFF the VR mode – get classical motion blur cinema FX

]]> By: hum@no.id http://nikonrumors.com/2008/10/14/nikon-press-conference-got-moved-to-november-20th-now-a-world-wide-event.aspx/comment-page-1#comment-62 hum@no.id Wed, 15 Oct 2008 12:24:56 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/http:/nikonrumors.com/2008/10/14/nikon-press-conference-got-moved-to-november-20th-now-a-world-wide-event.aspx#comment-62 [quote]and also some DPReview recently posted shows its IQ (sharpness for instance) is below D300's)[/quote]<br /><br />this very poor itself shot-test<br />D90 aperture f9 \ D300 - f8...<br /><br />also conscious un-focus<br /><br />see background crop from their example<br />D300 - <a href="http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/8566/postyc9.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/8566/postyc9.jpg</a><br /><br />D90 - <a href="http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/2672/postnd5.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/2672/postnd5.jpg</a><br /><br />or check themselves on<br /><a href="http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond90/page33.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond90/page33.asp</a><br /><br /><a href="http://a.img-dpreview.com/reviews/NikonD90/Samples/Comparedto/Studio/NikonD90_ISO200_ACR.JPG" rel="nofollow">http://a.img-dpreview.com/reviews/NikonD90/Samples/Comparedto/Studio/NikonD90_ISO200_ACR.JPG</a><br /><br /><a href="http://a.img-dpreview.com/reviews/SonyDSLRA700/Samples/Compared/Studio/d300_iso0200-raw-acr.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://a.img-dpreview.com/reviews/SonyDSLRA700/Samples/Compared/Studio/d300_iso0200-raw-acr.jpg</a><br /><br />see play card on background<br /><br />such tests it is necessary to throw on garbage [quote]and also some DPReview recently posted shows its IQ (sharpness for instance) is below D300’s)[/quote]

this very poor itself shot-test
D90 aperture f9 \ D300 – f8…

also conscious un-focus

see background crop from their example
D300 – http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/8566/postyc9.jpg

D90 – http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/2672/postnd5.jpg

or check themselves on
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond90/page33.asp

http://a.img-dpreview.com/reviews/NikonD90/Samples/Comparedto/Studio/NikonD90_ISO200_ACR.JPG

http://a.img-dpreview.com/reviews/SonyDSLRA700/Samples/Compared/Studio/d300_iso0200-raw-acr.jpg

see play card on background

such tests it is necessary to throw on garbage

]]> By: Laurence http://nikonrumors.com/2008/10/14/nikon-press-conference-got-moved-to-november-20th-now-a-world-wide-event.aspx/comment-page-1#comment-61 Laurence Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:26:46 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/http:/nikonrumors.com/2008/10/14/nikon-press-conference-got-moved-to-november-20th-now-a-world-wide-event.aspx#comment-61 How does ISO noise in low light compare with the D700 to 5D MkII? How does ISO noise in low light compare with the D700 to 5D MkII?

]]> By: Pablov http://nikonrumors.com/2008/10/14/nikon-press-conference-got-moved-to-november-20th-now-a-world-wide-event.aspx/comment-page-1#comment-60 Pablov Wed, 15 Oct 2008 10:53:17 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/http:/nikonrumors.com/2008/10/14/nikon-press-conference-got-moved-to-november-20th-now-a-world-wide-event.aspx#comment-60 If there is nothing new in November, I will wait until March.<br />I think around that date it should be a new Nikon DSLR.<br /><br />It's hard (or even impossible) to find a camera that meets all our needs that we can also afford, isn't it? but we hope the best approach.. :)<br /><br />(BTW someone also reported the D90 doesn't have interval time shooting, despite a preview says it has. I didn't check it out since I discarded that camera due to its poor Video quality, and also some DPReview recently posted shows its IQ (sharpness for instance) is below D300's)<br /><br />D700' body & features + 20MP FX sensor + Low Noise + HD Video "Pro Quality" (FULL Manual settings, no shutter rolling effect, good smoothness, Focus assistance (if not possible the AF), 30fps (the choice of 60fps would be a dream), MIC-IN Stereo jack, etc)+ 2 Full Customizable modes (almost all camera settings recorded for Instant restore)... THAT would be almost my perfect solution :)<br /><br />And of course the price matters, but If a DSLR has all of that to offer at price under 3.600 I would choose it.<br /><br />The Canon 5D Mk II is near in terms of features. But I hope Nikon do it better. If there is nothing new in November, I will wait until March.
I think around that date it should be a new Nikon DSLR.

It’s hard (or even impossible) to find a camera that meets all our needs that we can also afford, isn’t it? but we hope the best approach.. :)

(BTW someone also reported the D90 doesn’t have interval time shooting, despite a preview says it has. I didn’t check it out since I discarded that camera due to its poor Video quality, and also some DPReview recently posted shows its IQ (sharpness for instance) is below D300’s)

D700′ body & features + 20MP FX sensor + Low Noise + HD Video “Pro Quality” (FULL Manual settings, no shutter rolling effect, good smoothness, Focus assistance (if not possible the AF), 30fps (the choice of 60fps would be a dream), MIC-IN Stereo jack, etc)+ 2 Full Customizable modes (almost all camera settings recorded for Instant restore)… THAT would be almost my perfect solution :)

And of course the price matters, but If a DSLR has all of that to offer at price under 3.600 I would choose it.

The Canon 5D Mk II is near in terms of features. But I hope Nikon do it better.

]]> By: Rob http://nikonrumors.com/2008/10/14/nikon-press-conference-got-moved-to-november-20th-now-a-world-wide-event.aspx/comment-page-1#comment-59 Rob Wed, 15 Oct 2008 08:16:19 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/http:/nikonrumors.com/2008/10/14/nikon-press-conference-got-moved-to-november-20th-now-a-world-wide-event.aspx#comment-59 Same -- I'm really not happy that I'm even considering this move. I'm still holding out hope that we'll get pro-level video in a D400/D800 realm camera. But it can't cross the $3K price-point. <br /><br />The biggest hold back for me was the lack of interval shooting in the 5DMkII, but there's an external device that does it on the Canon.<br /><br />Not making any moves 'til the November accouncement, though (assuming there is one) -- and possibly a very short period thereafter. <br /><br />Probably. :) Same — I’m really not happy that I’m even considering this move. I’m still holding out hope that we’ll get pro-level video in a D400/D800 realm camera. But it can’t cross the $3K price-point.

The biggest hold back for me was the lack of interval shooting in the 5DMkII, but there’s an external device that does it on the Canon.

Not making any moves ’til the November accouncement, though (assuming there is one) — and possibly a very short period thereafter.

Probably. :)

]]> By: Pablov http://nikonrumors.com/2008/10/14/nikon-press-conference-got-moved-to-november-20th-now-a-world-wide-event.aspx/comment-page-1#comment-58 Pablov Wed, 15 Oct 2008 07:25:59 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/http:/nikonrumors.com/2008/10/14/nikon-press-conference-got-moved-to-november-20th-now-a-world-wide-event.aspx#comment-58 I will wait until Nikon release new Pro DSLR, then will think what to do.<br /><br />I also record Video, and want to use the lenses, low light condition, narrow depth of field, etc, that DSLR can offer...<br /><br />But HD Movie mode in DSLR is just begining. Will be improved, no doubt for me, so taking a decision right now could be not good I will wait until Nikon release new Pro DSLR, then will think what to do.

I also record Video, and want to use the lenses, low light condition, narrow depth of field, etc, that DSLR can offer…

But HD Movie mode in DSLR is just begining. Will be improved, no doubt for me, so taking a decision right now could be not good

]]> By: dan http://nikonrumors.com/2008/10/14/nikon-press-conference-got-moved-to-november-20th-now-a-world-wide-event.aspx/comment-page-1#comment-57 dan Wed, 15 Oct 2008 07:05:01 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/http:/nikonrumors.com/2008/10/14/nikon-press-conference-got-moved-to-november-20th-now-a-world-wide-event.aspx#comment-57 It was repeated before but avi does not matter, macs can play avi. I have avis here. It was repeated before but avi does not matter, macs can play avi. I have avis here.

]]> By: G-man http://nikonrumors.com/2008/10/14/nikon-press-conference-got-moved-to-november-20th-now-a-world-wide-event.aspx/comment-page-1#comment-56 G-man Wed, 15 Oct 2008 06:27:06 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/http:/nikonrumors.com/2008/10/14/nikon-press-conference-got-moved-to-november-20th-now-a-world-wide-event.aspx#comment-56 I am already moving my nikon glass. Nikon lost me because of the movie mode. I know alot of ppl are saying negatives things about the movie mode but they will change their minds later. It is always like that with something new. I am a amatuer photography/videographer and if I could get high quality videos and photos from 1 camera..SOLD!!! I am already moving my nikon glass. Nikon lost me because of the movie mode. I know alot of ppl are saying negatives things about the movie mode but they will change their minds later. It is always like that with something new. I am a amatuer photography/videographer and if I could get high quality videos and photos from 1 camera..SOLD!!!

]]>