Comments on: Top five best selling DSLR cameras & is Nikon marketing falling behind? http://nikonrumors.com/2008/10/08/top-five-best-selling-dslr-cameras-is-nikon-marketing-falling-behind.aspx/ where there’s smoke there’s fire Mon, 13 Feb 2012 02:56:24 +0000 hourly 1 By: Tong http://nikonrumors.com/2008/10/08/top-five-best-selling-dslr-cameras-is-nikon-marketing-falling-behind.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-20715 Tong Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:16:29 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/http:/nikonrumors.com/2008/10/08/top-five-best-selling-dslr-cameras-is-nikon-marketing-falling-behind.aspx#comment-20715 Wow no wonder sony will do the same to nikon and canon as what they did on nintendo // now its a battle of DSLR hope Nikon and canon will still survived.. you have to admit that sony are now epanding thier lenses the same with tamron and sigma.. with less price than the lense of nikon and canon. Wow no wonder sony will do the same to nikon and canon as what they did on nintendo // now its a battle of DSLR hope Nikon and canon will still survived.. you have to admit that sony are now epanding thier lenses the same with tamron and sigma.. with less price than the lense of nikon and canon.

]]> By: Krister http://nikonrumors.com/2008/10/08/top-five-best-selling-dslr-cameras-is-nikon-marketing-falling-behind.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-14779 Krister Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:03:37 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/http:/nikonrumors.com/2008/10/08/top-five-best-selling-dslr-cameras-is-nikon-marketing-falling-behind.aspx#comment-14779 My comment might not be regarding what you are discussing really, but here goes anyway. Some days before christmas I purchased a Sonay A350. I am totally new to system cameras and have only had a Sony V1 before (which took very nice pictures but just too slow indoors with a fast moving 2 year old as object...). I then borrowed a friends Nikon D90, stepped outside with them and took pictures of the same object with auto settings (mind you, I don't know my stuff yet). The difference in quality was staggering really and since auto is the way I'll be taking my photos for quite some time, I immediately went to the store and turned in my Sony for a Nikon. I lost 100 euros but rather that than being constantly bitter with my purchase! :) My comment might not be regarding what you are discussing really, but here goes anyway.
Some days before christmas I purchased a Sonay A350. I am totally new to system cameras and have only had a Sony V1 before (which took very nice pictures but just too slow indoors with a fast moving 2 year old as object…).

I then borrowed a friends Nikon D90, stepped outside with them and took pictures of the same object with auto settings (mind you, I don’t know my stuff yet). The difference in quality was staggering really and since auto is the way I’ll be taking my photos for quite some time, I immediately went to the store and turned in my Sony for a Nikon. I lost 100 euros but rather that than being constantly bitter with my purchase! :)

]]> By: Captain-Camrah http://nikonrumors.com/2008/10/08/top-five-best-selling-dslr-cameras-is-nikon-marketing-falling-behind.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-14151 Captain-Camrah Fri, 09 Jan 2009 23:30:54 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/http:/nikonrumors.com/2008/10/08/top-five-best-selling-dslr-cameras-is-nikon-marketing-falling-behind.aspx#comment-14151 Fun to read all these comments, in 2006 Sony was never going to make it in the industry, 2007 they gained good marketshare, and now they are 3rd best, ... in two years. Oops. Hope Canon and Nikon grabbed their socks. 2009' is coming Fun to read all these comments, in 2006 Sony was never going to make it in the industry, 2007 they gained good marketshare, and now they are 3rd best, … in two years. Oops.

Hope Canon and Nikon grabbed their socks. 2009′ is coming

]]> By: Alex http://nikonrumors.com/2008/10/08/top-five-best-selling-dslr-cameras-is-nikon-marketing-falling-behind.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-241 Alex Sat, 18 Oct 2008 21:01:29 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/http:/nikonrumors.com/2008/10/08/top-five-best-selling-dslr-cameras-is-nikon-marketing-falling-behind.aspx#comment-241 Hmmmm...this reminds me of a similar debate that took place on dpreview. A topic was started in the Nikon forum about how the Nikon D700 was a failure and wasn't selling at all anywhere, etc. etc. etc. And it got rather ugly, and turned into a totally opinionated war of words with almost no fact, at least that's how I felt when I read it. I guess the data is important when coupled with the note from the sales rep, but just look at Calumet's totals along with Amazon's. I agree with Neil, Ritz doesn't seem to look like the best source to determine whether or not Nikon's marketing is taking a turn for the worse. I've talked with small local camera shops who are major Nikon dealers (but don't look like they have a big customer base) and watched them get in some products more readily than the big guys (I bought my 70-200 VR from one when I couldn't find the lens at B&H, Adorama, or Calumet). I've had an employee at one of these stores call up her Nikon Rep off hours to get me prices on D3's, 24-70's, 70-200's, and a few other products, and no I'm not friends with the employee, I'd never met her. It just goes to show that Ritz doesn't give an accurate representation of Nikon's reps and sales totals and neither do small camera dealers like the one's I've mentioned, just like you wouldn't look at Best Buy or Circuit City to determine this either. Just my two cents. Hmmmm…this reminds me of a similar debate that took place on dpreview. A topic was started in the Nikon forum about how the Nikon D700 was a failure and wasn’t selling at all anywhere, etc. etc. etc. And it got rather ugly, and turned into a totally opinionated war of words with almost no fact, at least that’s how I felt when I read it. I guess the data is important when coupled with the note from the sales rep, but just look at Calumet’s totals along with Amazon’s. I agree with Neil, Ritz doesn’t seem to look like the best source to determine whether or not Nikon’s marketing is taking a turn for the worse. I’ve talked with small local camera shops who are major Nikon dealers (but don’t look like they have a big customer base) and watched them get in some products more readily than the big guys (I bought my 70-200 VR from one when I couldn’t find the lens at B&H, Adorama, or Calumet). I’ve had an employee at one of these stores call up her Nikon Rep off hours to get me prices on D3′s, 24-70′s, 70-200′s, and a few other products, and no I’m not friends with the employee, I’d never met her. It just goes to show that Ritz doesn’t give an accurate representation of Nikon’s reps and sales totals and neither do small camera dealers like the one’s I’ve mentioned, just like you wouldn’t look at Best Buy or Circuit City to determine this either. Just my two cents.

]]> By: Blog Admin http://nikonrumors.com/2008/10/08/top-five-best-selling-dslr-cameras-is-nikon-marketing-falling-behind.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-240 Blog Admin Sat, 18 Oct 2008 20:57:00 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/http:/nikonrumors.com/2008/10/08/top-five-best-selling-dslr-cameras-is-nikon-marketing-falling-behind.aspx#comment-240 I guess it changed - I got mine few days ago...<br> I guess it changed – I got mine few days ago…

]]> By: RockyIII http://nikonrumors.com/2008/10/08/top-five-best-selling-dslr-cameras-is-nikon-marketing-falling-behind.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-239 RockyIII Sat, 18 Oct 2008 19:57:48 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/http:/nikonrumors.com/2008/10/08/top-five-best-selling-dslr-cameras-is-nikon-marketing-falling-behind.aspx#comment-239 The list of top selling DSLRs I see on Amazon differs from yours.<br />1. Canon XSi kit<br />2. Nikon D40 kit<br />3. Nikon D90 kit<br />4. Nikon D60 kit<br />5. Nikon D90 body The list of top selling DSLRs I see on Amazon differs from yours.
1. Canon XSi kit
2. Nikon D40 kit
3. Nikon D90 kit
4. Nikon D60 kit
5. Nikon D90 body

]]> By: Blog Admin http://nikonrumors.com/2008/10/08/top-five-best-selling-dslr-cameras-is-nikon-marketing-falling-behind.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-237 Blog Admin Sat, 18 Oct 2008 17:48:04 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/http:/nikonrumors.com/2008/10/08/top-five-best-selling-dslr-cameras-is-nikon-marketing-falling-behind.aspx#comment-237 0 0

]]> By: alex http://nikonrumors.com/2008/10/08/top-five-best-selling-dslr-cameras-is-nikon-marketing-falling-behind.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-236 alex Sat, 18 Oct 2008 15:20:34 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/http:/nikonrumors.com/2008/10/08/top-five-best-selling-dslr-cameras-is-nikon-marketing-falling-behind.aspx#comment-236 how much is Ritz paying nikonrumors for this borig advertising? how much is Ritz paying nikonrumors for this borig advertising?

]]> By: pete http://nikonrumors.com/2008/10/08/top-five-best-selling-dslr-cameras-is-nikon-marketing-falling-behind.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-235 pete Sat, 18 Oct 2008 14:35:20 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/http:/nikonrumors.com/2008/10/08/top-five-best-selling-dslr-cameras-is-nikon-marketing-falling-behind.aspx#comment-235 interestingly 3 users were invited to test the d60, k200d, 450d, e520 and a350 by what digital camera magazine<br /><br />guess what one that NONE of them liked? the sony. <br /><br />never used it myself but interesting.<br /><br />dealers need to add value to the selling process not just go "COR LOOK AT THE MEGAPIXELS ON THAT"<br /><br />amusingly the magazine put the d60 last of the group whilst all the users put it in their top 3. the most popular was the pentax. interestingly 3 users were invited to test the d60, k200d, 450d, e520 and a350 by what digital camera magazine

guess what one that NONE of them liked? the sony.

never used it myself but interesting.

dealers need to add value to the selling process not just go “COR LOOK AT THE MEGAPIXELS ON THAT”

amusingly the magazine put the d60 last of the group whilst all the users put it in their top 3. the most popular was the pentax.

]]> By: Eric http://nikonrumors.com/2008/10/08/top-five-best-selling-dslr-cameras-is-nikon-marketing-falling-behind.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-234 Eric Sat, 18 Oct 2008 11:23:59 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/http:/nikonrumors.com/2008/10/08/top-five-best-selling-dslr-cameras-is-nikon-marketing-falling-behind.aspx#comment-234 I remember two weeks I worked for a camera dealer. And in those two weeks I learned that the company that gave the biggest spiffs was Ricoh. (This was in 1983). Guess what? Canon and Nikon outsold them.<br /><br />Let's get serious, Ritz is not a real camera store. It's a boutique for the camera-illiterate out there. And with double the size of spiffs, it's going to skew the numbers for Ritz sales in favor of Sony because the sales staff are going to push what makes them the most money. I remember two weeks I worked for a camera dealer. And in those two weeks I learned that the company that gave the biggest spiffs was Ricoh. (This was in 1983). Guess what? Canon and Nikon outsold them.

Let’s get serious, Ritz is not a real camera store. It’s a boutique for the camera-illiterate out there. And with double the size of spiffs, it’s going to skew the numbers for Ritz sales in favor of Sony because the sales staff are going to push what makes them the most money.

]]> By: MarkDphotoguy http://nikonrumors.com/2008/10/08/top-five-best-selling-dslr-cameras-is-nikon-marketing-falling-behind.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-233 MarkDphotoguy Sat, 18 Oct 2008 10:23:31 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/http:/nikonrumors.com/2008/10/08/top-five-best-selling-dslr-cameras-is-nikon-marketing-falling-behind.aspx#comment-233 I too work in a camera store (north of the border) and the situation is exactly the same and I follow the same selling philosophy as you do sell what's right for the customer. Some of my co-workers are not so diligent and check daily to see what incentives will line their pockets the best regardless if its the right camera for the customer. Way to go, keep it up money isn't everything if you can't look at your reflection in the mirror at the end of the day. I too work in a camera store (north of the border) and the situation is exactly the same and I follow the same selling philosophy as you do sell what’s right for the customer. Some of my co-workers are not so diligent and check daily to see what incentives will line their pockets the best regardless if its the right camera for the customer. Way to go, keep it up money isn’t everything if you can’t look at your reflection in the mirror at the end of the day.

]]> By: E http://nikonrumors.com/2008/10/08/top-five-best-selling-dslr-cameras-is-nikon-marketing-falling-behind.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-232 E Sat, 18 Oct 2008 08:24:52 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/http:/nikonrumors.com/2008/10/08/top-five-best-selling-dslr-cameras-is-nikon-marketing-falling-behind.aspx#comment-232 I don't think Nikons falling behind. Look at those lists. There is 10 slots, Nikon holds 5 of them. Not too shabby... I don’t think Nikons falling behind. Look at those lists. There is 10 slots, Nikon holds 5 of them. Not too shabby…

]]> By: rthomas http://nikonrumors.com/2008/10/08/top-five-best-selling-dslr-cameras-is-nikon-marketing-falling-behind.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-231 rthomas Sat, 18 Oct 2008 07:37:44 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/http:/nikonrumors.com/2008/10/08/top-five-best-selling-dslr-cameras-is-nikon-marketing-falling-behind.aspx#comment-231 To Jared;<br />Agreed; I worked for Ritz while in college in the late 90's, and I, a Nikon and medium-format user, sold mostly Olympus and Pentax P&S cameras. The base pay was little more than minimum wage, but the spiffs could seriously improve the pay. I sold Nikon when I could, but there were reasons to push the other cameras; most people coming into Ritz in those days didn't want an SLR anyway, and those that did we'd steer towards a higher-spiff P&S camera whenever possible. To Jared;
Agreed; I worked for Ritz while in college in the late 90′s, and I, a Nikon and medium-format user, sold mostly Olympus and Pentax P&S cameras. The base pay was little more than minimum wage, but the spiffs could seriously improve the pay. I sold Nikon when I could, but there were reasons to push the other cameras; most people coming into Ritz in those days didn’t want an SLR anyway, and those that did we’d steer towards a higher-spiff P&S camera whenever possible.

]]> By: russ http://nikonrumors.com/2008/10/08/top-five-best-selling-dslr-cameras-is-nikon-marketing-falling-behind.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-250 russ Fri, 17 Oct 2008 09:35:00 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/http:/nikonrumors.com/2008/10/08/top-five-best-selling-dslr-cameras-is-nikon-marketing-falling-behind.aspx#comment-250 having sold cameras at wolf (aka ritz) and best buy, we had more sonys sit on the shelves than any thing other than olympus. canon and nikon never had issues moving units.<br /><br />as far as nikon showing ritz/wolf love... i never saw any of it. i talked to a nikon rep ONCE there, and that was after i tracked HIM down and called him on a question. having sold cameras at wolf (aka ritz) and best buy, we had more sonys sit on the shelves than any thing other than olympus. canon and nikon never had issues moving units.

as far as nikon showing ritz/wolf love… i never saw any of it. i talked to a nikon rep ONCE there, and that was after i tracked HIM down and called him on a question.

]]> By: Renato http://nikonrumors.com/2008/10/08/top-five-best-selling-dslr-cameras-is-nikon-marketing-falling-behind.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-249 Renato Sun, 12 Oct 2008 21:00:10 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/http:/nikonrumors.com/2008/10/08/top-five-best-selling-dslr-cameras-is-nikon-marketing-falling-behind.aspx#comment-249 I was at B&H in NYC a couple of times 10 days ago to buy a lens (12-24) and help a relative buy a camera (went to get a D80, got the D90). I stayed for a while observing the booths. The action at Nikon was the strongest, the Canon. But at Nikon, 90% of people were looking at dslrs, especially D90 and D700, while at Canon's about half of people checked p&s models. Very little action at Oly or Sony re dslrs, most Sony lookers were checkong p&s. I asked the vendor that helped us about sales and he said the D90 was the fastest camera they had at that moment. Along the counter, I cobserved and saw 5 peopel checkin Nikon dslrs and lenses, 3 checking Canon's dslrs and lenses, all others were checking p&s cameras, no Sony or Oly dslrs been checked.<br /><br />Of course, this is anecdotal, take it with agrain of salt, but, at least at B&H (and that's a high-tech supermarket of cameras, for those who know it), looks like Nikon and Canon reign supreme. I was at B&H in NYC a couple of times 10 days ago to buy a lens (12-24) and help a relative buy a camera (went to get a D80, got the D90). I stayed for a while observing the booths. The action at Nikon was the strongest, the Canon. But at Nikon, 90% of people were looking at dslrs, especially D90 and D700, while at Canon’s about half of people checked p&s models. Very little action at Oly or Sony re dslrs, most Sony lookers were checkong p&s. I asked the vendor that helped us about sales and he said the D90 was the fastest camera they had at that moment. Along the counter, I cobserved and saw 5 peopel checkin Nikon dslrs and lenses, 3 checking Canon’s dslrs and lenses, all others were checking p&s cameras, no Sony or Oly dslrs been checked.

Of course, this is anecdotal, take it with agrain of salt, but, at least at B&H (and that’s a high-tech supermarket of cameras, for those who know it), looks like Nikon and Canon reign supreme.

]]> By: Jovan http://nikonrumors.com/2008/10/08/top-five-best-selling-dslr-cameras-is-nikon-marketing-falling-behind.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-248 Jovan Sun, 12 Oct 2008 02:05:56 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/http:/nikonrumors.com/2008/10/08/top-five-best-selling-dslr-cameras-is-nikon-marketing-falling-behind.aspx#comment-248 Yes, sorry if that was unclear. I have no special relation with Amazon beyond retailer -- customer. Yes, sorry if that was unclear. I have no special relation with Amazon beyond retailer — customer.

]]> By: Laurence http://nikonrumors.com/2008/10/08/top-five-best-selling-dslr-cameras-is-nikon-marketing-falling-behind.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-247 Laurence Sat, 11 Oct 2008 19:39:43 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/http:/nikonrumors.com/2008/10/08/top-five-best-selling-dslr-cameras-is-nikon-marketing-falling-behind.aspx#comment-247 I think he meant that he's preordered but not yet received the D90 I think he meant that he’s preordered but not yet received the D90

]]> By: Blog Admin http://nikonrumors.com/2008/10/08/top-five-best-selling-dslr-cameras-is-nikon-marketing-falling-behind.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-246 Blog Admin Sat, 11 Oct 2008 09:21:39 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/http:/nikonrumors.com/2008/10/08/top-five-best-selling-dslr-cameras-is-nikon-marketing-falling-behind.aspx#comment-246 If you are insider to Amazon's inventory system - please let me know. We always want to know when a model will be available. If you are insider to Amazon’s inventory system – please let me know. We always want to know when a model will be available.

]]> By: Jovan http://nikonrumors.com/2008/10/08/top-five-best-selling-dslr-cameras-is-nikon-marketing-falling-behind.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-245 Jovan Sat, 11 Oct 2008 05:26:25 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/http:/nikonrumors.com/2008/10/08/top-five-best-selling-dslr-cameras-is-nikon-marketing-falling-behind.aspx#comment-245 It's true a few D90 body only orders have shipped. But Amazon has yet to meet all its preorders -- believe me, I know :( -- and B&H still isn't even accepting orders for the body only. It’s true a few D90 body only orders have shipped. But Amazon has yet to meet all its preorders — believe me, I know :( — and B&H still isn’t even accepting orders for the body only.

]]> By: Jeff http://nikonrumors.com/2008/10/08/top-five-best-selling-dslr-cameras-is-nikon-marketing-falling-behind.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-244 Jeff Fri, 10 Oct 2008 10:47:23 +0000 http://nikonrumors.com/http:/nikonrumors.com/2008/10/08/top-five-best-selling-dslr-cameras-is-nikon-marketing-falling-behind.aspx#comment-244 Sky is not falling. Monthly data varies due to different product introduction cycles.<br /><br />The most authentic data available today is from BCN Ranking, <a href="http://bcnranking.jp/category/subcategory_0008.html" rel="nofollow">http://bcnranking.jp/category/subcategory_0008.html</a> which is on weekly basis for the Japan market. They just release a 9 month DSLR data in which Canon and Nikon are neck and neck, having 40.1% for both of them. Sony is 10% as a distant third place with less than 10% for the rest (Pentax, Olympus, Panasonic, etc.). Sky is not falling. Monthly data varies due to different product introduction cycles.

The most authentic data available today is from BCN Ranking, http://bcnranking.jp/category/subcategory_0008.html which is on weekly basis for the Japan market. They just release a 9 month DSLR data in which Canon and Nikon are neck and neck, having 40.1% for both of them. Sony is 10% as a distant third place with less than 10% for the rest (Pentax, Olympus, Panasonic, etc.).

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