Nikon D3x is coming in December?

Does that mean, that the flash sync speed will be faster that 250?

I find it hard to believe that this camera will be for the “sports shooter”.

…forgot about auto-FP mode? it can let you use your speedlight at 1/8000s

it’s about the time. i hope this is not another bull.

But for example the Pocket Wizards can’t sync that quick. know what i mean?

$6499?? It’s going to need a LOT to sell at that price.

so we are, as yet, disregarding what every Nikon Rep. we have talked to, both in the US and at Photokina has said? that there will be “NO New professional bodies this year”? now, something im suprised nobody has picked up on is that EACH rep has said “Professional bodies” what if nikon, just for the sheere sence of keeping up in this “megapixel race” released a D300 like body with that (hopefully somewhat improved) 24mp sensor? but quite frankly i really dont see Nikon putting it into a D3(x) professional body…

Yep, I agree, unless they use the detail reducing high ISO noise reduction, or some profound new tech, nope, wont happen.

Most definitly, unless nikon releases a D3h that has the same processing power that allows 24mp at 9fps, at 12 mp and somewhere in the ballpark of 14-15 fps! this won’t happen.

Really? Get the D70 or D40, put them on 1/8000 and flash in manual mode and see if they don’t sync (I’ll give you a hint – they have electronic shutter – and so will sync at any speed, just not in TTL :)

If Nikon implements “good” video mode (30fps, full HD, manual exposure, etc) and the sensor’s resolution is around 24MP, keeping 9fps, it would need a newer processor

Even if the shutter frame rate is below 9fps I think those kind of features need a new processor.

I seriously doubt that Nikon will use the Sony’s 24MP sensor, too noisy… (and more noise-reduction is not a good thing indeed… MUCH better a less-noisy sensor!! even if it’s only ~20MP)

Sensor of Canon EOS 5D Mk II seems much better than Sony’s (although it is lower resolution, but I would prefer it without hesitation)

fact #1: it does NOT need movie mode. this is a fully pro camera. not a prosumer.
fact #2: A 24mp D3X will NOT shoot at 9fps. why woould it even need to ? 5 or 6 would be fine.
fact #3: 24fps produced far more pleasing results than 30fps.
fact #4: Auto FP pulses flash,it is not truly flashsync and will compomise exposures in certain situations.
fact #5: none of the people here who say it should have video will ever be buying one. no pro looks to tick that box in the “must have” list.

@ Peter

Nikon have already said that they are trailing D90 movie function to see whether it’s something pros might need in the future. With Canon doing it now, I see no reason as to why Nikon’s next pro line will not have this function.

Secondly, your other ‘facts’ are bunch of misleading points you concluded from reading too much off the internet. Have some back up of information if you plan to make sweeping statements… For instance, I also work as a director of photography for short films, and I would kill for a Nikon body with movie functions which I can use with my existing lenses/video equipment. So while it is not a ‘must have’ tick box, yes, it would be great if it had it.

Oh yea, and I sourced my D90 comment above from British Journal of Photography (when they announced D90 issue few weeks back)

Once again : I’ll get one!

sorry peter, but your facts are not entirely correct/shared for other pros.

#1: you may not like or even use “movie mode”, but many ones will and actually do (HDMI output for instance)

There are “pros” in many areas, not only shooting events (whatever their kind might be)

Many movie makers are paying especially attention to this feature in DSLRs since the Big possibilities it offers against much more expensive devices

And as Reg mentioned, many photojournalists are going to be recording video. Is a matter of time and vision. Maybe you don’t like it or don’t see, but will happen.

Another example: Just review what happened to newspaper on internet. Today their digital version offer reports, pictures AND videos.
It’s easy to see what’s going on and what the needs of a newspaper are for today and “tomorrow”

LiveView: At studio shooting LV is used A LOT, instead of putting your eye on the body every shooting or re-framing operation

#3: not always 24fps are better than 30 or even 60. Flexibility is a virtue.
It depends on the use for the final footage. Again, the needs of “pro” may differ.

#5: wrong, for the above reasons.

Canon: cleverly implemented it in the 5D mark II (and improved over the D90′s).
You can read some “Pro” reports about it and how much impressed they were, and the possibilities that offers (since you only seem to consider comments by “pros”)

And rest asured that they will do the same on future “pro” line.

Nikon can do whatever they want to do, sure, and they might realize late (or not, let’s see soon),
But future “pro” DSLR will also include HD video mode.

And despite you call the 5D mk II a “prosumer”, the “pro” and “prosumer” difference is Lot of the times just a psycological line (and price difference), more than a technical one.
The same way, you can call a D300 “prosumer”… but lot of pros use them.

In any case, a “prosumer” would be a “D90″, but as everyone knows, a real “pro” photographer can take good pictures using an “amateur” camera, or even a consumer one.

“end of the story”

I would certainly buy a pro camera with HD Video capabilities, why not and why shouldn’t it be? Flexibility is definitely a virtue.

About “No HD Movie in Pro Camera”:

HD movie recording, like in D90, is basically “sending Liveview to memory” (unlike Canon 5DmkII). It’s not so “engineering consuming”.

So they might as well include it, as a “gadget”, that 95% of traditional D3 users will not use. 5% will find it amusing or useful.
And then there will be people buying it for that “gadget”.
And new clients are always welcome ;op

pablov, you must be joking. those videos are terrible. they are choppy, his arm is out focus for moments before the AF catches up and there is all kinds of artefacting.

i cant even believe you are citing them as an example of what movie mode should look like. they look pathetic.

yes yes Mr. oldman.

you know all photographers in the world, and of course all the Pros in the world, and all the movie makers in the world, and all the magazines, … ie the entire whole world (am I forgetting something?)
And don’t even talk to any that carries the label “Pro” in his personal card. Most of those Pros are just oldmen with unflexible way to see and use the tools the technology offers.

Move makers are paying attention, yes. Not “Hollywood” movie makers, but I suposse you already know, since you know everything, that there are OTHER types of movie makers…. don’t you?

Anyway, take a look at this short preview and pay Attention to what he says about future DSLR (it’s not just my opinion):

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/videos/5DMKII-preview.shtml

Even though, I don’t guess you are going to change your mind, because stones remain stones, and the only valid point of view is yours, and of course the rude man likes to treat others rude.
“end of story”

“i dont care where you sourced your info from. bookmark this page and get back to me when the d3x is released”
- I don’t say that selfish BS, I just say “bookmark this page and get back in the future, and review your own words. Pro DSLRs ARE going to include HD Movie (sooner or later, maybe not the next D3x) BECAUSE there is a BIG market for it, it’s not just my idea, it’s a matter of business and some others…)
If you don’t know the area or don’t like it, it doesn’t matter.

Pro DSLR does not need Movie, sure, but in terms of convenience, sales, and functionability, versatility, they will include it, if the manufacturer is smart enough.

D300 ARE used by Pros, in many events, but maybe you only know your city or whatever you live in.

Better you go some other place to see what’s going on.
AND remember… “events” ARE NOT THE ONLY jobs that “Professionals” do…

Have fun with the mirror, I don’t like to talk to ppl who enter to a page/forum just to state facts.
I don’t do that, just give you a bit of your own medicine

Cheers. And be happy.

I don’t think AF is working in Movie mode… just manual instead.
So if anything is out of focus, is not the fault of the camera. Remember that in a DSLR Movie mode at maximum aperture and telephoto lens, the depth of field is very narrow
(Maybe I’m wrong and there is AF running in Movie mode, that’s to be seen when production full reviews appear)

The 5 secs. files are huge (in terms of resolution/MB/s) and even a really FAST computer hardly display the movie smoothly.

I have 2 Opteron CPUSs, 4 cores running at 2.8Ghz each, and a normal player couldn’t do a very good job.

I did run a single-threaded video player and it didn’t do it well with that files.
I don’t know (and didn’t look for) a multi-threaded player, maybe it exists, not sure)

I didn’t have time for that, and simply rezised the movie to a little smaller resolution and it played smoothly…

I admit it is not the best HD video, but come on, it’s the 1st really Full 1920×1080 HD DSLR ever….

And the quality is FAR better than D90′s. It has no even comparison.

This is going to be improved, that’s obvious, that’s what I mean with a really Pro tool. The 1st step is done, and very good indeed (I’m taling about the 5D MkII’s)

And they do not look pathetic at all.
I have Nikon gear, and hope Nikon do a good job in this area too, but I can admit when other brand offer a better (yet) implementation.

If you get some kind of freezing or not smooth motion, it’s your computer, not the video itself.

The only thing I did observe is the smoothness in the legs of the woman when walking in Movie2
Even the man on the bike, the cars and stuff on street (movie1) looked very good when the movie is played properly.

Take a look at other samples, for better evaluation. Specially those with low light, and changing lights

No problem – do you think I should add a forum to this blog?

Well, then 12MP isn’t twice 6MP too, as in the D2 Series.